I am still trying to work out what specific needs a lacemaker had that would
end up with a dog breed especially for them. Were the key lacemaking areas
popular with bulldog breeders who could provide the runts of the litters? I
also can't imagine someone working hard on their lace would want to
I received the Needle ânâ Thread magazine of the Guild of Needlelaces this
morning. I have not had a chance to read it yet â That is a bedtime treat!!
However, I have not had the Lace Guild magazine yet â and I have not heard
of any other Aussie getting it either, so it looks like we
Lorelei,
I agree completely. I have never read anywhere that the lace made in
Buckingham in 1750 was point ground. What made me pause on this article was
that Mr. Heathcoat supposedly learned to make lace from the Buckingham lace
makers around 1753 and imitated the point ground on his Loughborough
Karen
The problem is that we donât know what the lace made in Buckingham in 1753
looked like. Our discussion of names of laces has pointed out that some names
refer to geographic regions but have nothing to do with the structure created
or the techniques used. We need some kind of external
Thank you for the comments on the point ground. Hopefully there will be
more. As Devon and Lorelei say, it makes sense that due to fashion changes
in the late 1700s to much simpler and lighter laces and clothes in general,
the point ground provided a lighter background for the motifs. At the same
One last thought on dogs and lace makers. Perhaps their purpose wasnât
entirely as pets but maybe they were foot warmers. There was a time when
small dogs were allowed in church for that very purpose. Sharon on Vancouver
Island
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Thank you all for your wonderful replies to my question about dog patterns. A
good friend, who is also owner and training director of my dog's daycare and
school, is going through an increasingly difficult time. I thought it would be
good to make her a small something.
Given my own health
I agree with Devon
Lorelei
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Karen
I understand your question. My impression is also that point ground began in
the late 1700s. We have paintings of Empress Josephine wearing lace of a
style similar to these. Laces with that style sometimes used point ground
and sometimes Mechlin ground. Once we get past that style Mechlin
Karen, we found the same thing with the Tønder samples.
Many of the museum samples had been actually glued to
boards at some point! One piece in particular that was only
about 1/2 " wide by about 5 " long measured 5 different angles!
So it's really hard to determine what the 'real' angles might
The angles of the samples are anywhere from about 33 to 68, sometimes in
the same piece! Some of this might be due to distortion of the samples
between being made in 1789 and being mounted on acid-free board in the
1970s or 1980s at the Library of Congress. Or the prickings might have been
Dear Karen,
It would not seem that it would be that hard to find out something like this,
yet I have been looking in my books for confirmation of my gut feeling about
it, and am surprised at how difficult it is to verify.
My gut feeling is that it arose in the last two decades of the 18th century
Scuola di Merletti Gorizia - Regione Autonoma Friuli Venezia Giulia
Edizione della Laguna ISBN 88-8345-098-1
I think remember to have bought the book to http://www.tombolodisegni.it/
Carolina de la Guardia
www.carolgallego.com
> El 16 feb 2017, a las 23:01,
Hi Karen,
What are the angles of the grounds in the Ipswich lace samples?
Nancy
Connecticut, USA
On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Karen Thompson
wrote:
> It is with great interest that I have followed the conversations about
> Mechlin, Valenciennes, Binche, etc. and
Carolina wrote: On the book "Merletto a Fuselli" -Note de storia e materiali
d'archivio- tells about the cultural relation between the Lace School of
Gorizia with others Schools in Viena, Eslovenia, Praga and Germany before the
First World 's War.
This sounds like a very interesting book. Does
It is with great interest that I have followed the conversations about
Mechlin, Valenciennes, Binche, etc. and am wondering if the conversation
can continue with point ground. So far, I have not been able to find a date
(approximate) for the start of point ground laces. The closest I have come
is
Definitely this piece is not the style of Hinojosa lace.
As I privately commented to Devon, Hinojosa is a continuous tape lace without
grounds nor fillings between tapes.
The Saxony piece is a part tape lace worked with clothstitch. There are drawn
some spaces between tapes that are filled with
The reference to lacemakers moving to Normandy possibly relates to the machine
lacemakers. After trouble with Luddites in Loughborough then Nottingham, John
Heathcote moved his bobbinet factory to Devon, and from there machines were
smuggled (after being stripped down to smaller parts) to
The other vermicelli lace not mentioned, which has no holes and where the
cloth stitch goes right to the edges is hinohosa from Spain.
Just another thought to be put in the mix.
Malvary in Ottawa where we have had about 50cm of snow since Sunday, but not
as badly hit as the Maritimes. Nice
Sorry, in my haste I sent this from the AOL and not the gmail account.
Devon
Many thanks to all those who are helping me with the puzzle of the Saxony
lace. I have received some very insightful replies, both privately and
publicly.
Some themes emerge. Bohemia is a confusing concept,
Is this an unfortunate example of how lace history becomes distorted?
The history associated with the French bulldogs, as explained in the second
web site, seems to be mis-leading. French lacemakers fled to England,
because of religious persecution against non-Catholics in France. Was
Many thanks to all those who are helping me with the puzzle of the Saxony
lace. I have received some very insightful replies, both privately and
publicly.
Some themes emerge. Bohemia is a confusing concept, geographically and
culturally.
Several people, Jean, and Leonard, tended to identify the
Hi,
Just to set the story straight, I actually have a Lacemakers' dog, a French
Bulldog. I was raised with dogs, and adore them, but this is my first French
Bulldog, and she's definitely the best breed I've ever had! I've even gotten
her certified as a therapy dog because she has such a wonderful
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