[lace] Lacemaker's dog?

2017-02-16 Thread H M Clarke
I am still trying to work out what specific needs a lacemaker had that would end up with a dog breed especially for them. Were the key lacemaking areas popular with bulldog breeders who could provide the runts of the litters? I also can't imagine someone working hard on their lace would want to

[lace] Magazines

2017-02-16 Thread lizlace
I received the Needle ‘n’ Thread magazine of the Guild of Needlelaces this morning. I have not had a chance to read it yet – That is a bedtime treat!! However, I have not had the Lace Guild magazine yet – and I have not heard of any other Aussie getting it either, so it looks like we

Re: [lace] Lace: Point ground laces

2017-02-16 Thread Karen Thompson
Lorelei, I agree completely. I have never read anywhere that the lace made in Buckingham in 1750 was point ground. What made me pause on this article was that Mr. Heathcoat supposedly learned to make lace from the Buckingham lace makers around 1753 and imitated the point ground on his Loughborough

RE: [lace] Lace: Point ground laces

2017-02-16 Thread Lorelei Halley
Karen The problem is that we don’t know what the lace made in Buckingham in 1753 looked like. Our discussion of names of laces has pointed out that some names refer to geographic regions but have nothing to do with the structure created or the techniques used. We need some kind of external

Re: [lace] Lace: Point ground laces

2017-02-16 Thread Karen Thompson
Thank you for the comments on the point ground. Hopefully there will be more. As Devon and Lorelei say, it makes sense that due to fashion changes in the late 1700s to much simpler and lighter laces and clothes in general, the point ground provided a lighter background for the motifs. At the same

[lace] dogs & lace

2017-02-16 Thread Rick & Sharon Whiteley
One last thought on dogs and lace makers. Perhaps their purpose wasn’t entirely as pets but maybe they were foot warmers. There was a time when small dogs were allowed in church for that very purpose. Sharon on Vancouver Island - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing

[lace] Dog patterns

2017-02-16 Thread H M Clarke
Thank you all for your wonderful replies to my question about dog patterns. A good friend, who is also owner and training director of my dog's daycare and school, is going through an increasingly difficult time. I thought it would be good to make her a small something. Given my own health

RE: [lace] Lace: Point ground laces

2017-02-16 Thread Lorelei Halley
I agree with Devon Lorelei -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of devonth...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 4:33 PM To: Nancy Neff ; Karen Thompson ; Arachne

RE: [lace] Lace: Point ground laces

2017-02-16 Thread Lorelei Halley
Karen I understand your question. My impression is also that point ground began in the late 1700s. We have paintings of Empress Josephine wearing lace of a style similar to these. Laces with that style sometimes used point ground and sometimes Mechlin ground. Once we get past that style Mechlin

Re: [lace] Lace: Point ground laces

2017-02-16 Thread Bobbi Donnelly
Karen, we found the same thing with the Tønder samples. Many of the museum samples had been actually glued to boards at some point! One piece in particular that was only about 1/2 " wide by about 5 " long measured 5 different angles! So it's really hard to determine what the 'real' angles might

Re: [lace] Lace: Point ground laces

2017-02-16 Thread Karen Thompson
The angles of the samples are anywhere from about 33 to 68, sometimes in the same piece! Some of this might be due to distortion of the samples between being made in 1789 and being mounted on acid-free board in the 1970s or 1980s at the Library of Congress. Or the prickings might have been

RE: [lace] Lace: Point ground laces

2017-02-16 Thread devonthein
Dear Karen, It would not seem that it would be that hard to find out something like this, yet I have been looking in my books for confirmation of my gut feeling about it, and am surprised at how difficult it is to verify. My gut feeling is that it arose in the last two decades of the 18th century

[lace] Re: Merletto a Fuselli-Note de storia e materiali d'archivio

2017-02-16 Thread Carolinadgg
Scuola di Merletti Gorizia - Regione Autonoma Friuli Venezia Giulia Edizione della Laguna ISBN 88-8345-098-1 I think remember to have bought the book to http://www.tombolodisegni.it/ Carolina de la Guardia www.carolgallego.com > El 16 feb 2017, a las 23:01,

Re: [lace] Lace: Point ground laces

2017-02-16 Thread Nancy Neff
Hi Karen, What are the angles of the grounds in the Ipswich lace samples? Nancy Connecticut, USA On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Karen Thompson wrote: > It is with great interest that I have followed the conversations about > Mechlin, Valenciennes, Binche, etc. and

[lace] Merletto a Fuselli-Note de storia e materiali d'archivio

2017-02-16 Thread devonthein
Carolina wrote: On the book "Merletto a Fuselli" -Note de storia e materiali d'archivio- tells about the cultural relation between the Lace School of Gorizia with others Schools in Viena, Eslovenia, Praga and Germany before the First World 's War. This sounds like a very interesting book. Does

[lace] Lace: Point ground laces

2017-02-16 Thread Karen Thompson
It is with great interest that I have followed the conversations about Mechlin, Valenciennes, Binche, etc. and am wondering if the conversation can continue with point ground. So far, I have not been able to find a date (approximate) for the start of point ground laces. The closest I have come is

Re: [lace] Saxony Lace-Czech?

2017-02-16 Thread cadega2
Definitely this piece is not the style of Hinojosa lace. As I privately commented to Devon, Hinojosa is a continuous tape lace without grounds nor fillings between tapes. The Saxony piece is a part tape lace worked with clothstitch. There are drawn some spaces between tapes that are filled with

[lace] Lace dogs, migration

2017-02-16 Thread Jane Partridge
The reference to lacemakers moving to Normandy possibly relates to the machine lacemakers. After trouble with Luddites in Loughborough then Nottingham, John Heathcote moved his bobbinet factory to Devon, and from there machines were smuggled (after being stripped down to smaller parts) to

Re: [lace] Saxony Lace-Czech?

2017-02-16 Thread Malvary Cole
The other vermicelli lace not mentioned, which has no holes and where the cloth stitch goes right to the edges is hinohosa from Spain. Just another thought to be put in the mix. Malvary in Ottawa where we have had about 50cm of snow since Sunday, but not as badly hit as the Maritimes. Nice

[lace] Saxony Lace-Czech?

2017-02-16 Thread devonthein
Sorry, in my haste I sent this from the AOL and not the gmail account. Devon Many thanks to all those who are helping me with the puzzle of the Saxony lace. I have received some very insightful replies, both privately and publicly. Some themes emerge. Bohemia is a confusing concept,

Re: [lace] Lace dog (French Bulldogs)

2017-02-16 Thread Jeriames
Is this an unfortunate example of how lace history becomes distorted? The history associated with the French bulldogs, as explained in the second web site, seems to be mis-leading. French lacemakers fled to England, because of religious persecution against non-Catholics in France. Was

[lace] Saxony Lace-Czech?

2017-02-16 Thread dmt11home
Many thanks to all those who are helping me with the puzzle of the Saxony lace. I have received some very insightful replies, both privately and publicly. Some themes emerge. Bohemia is a confusing concept, geographically and culturally. Several people, Jean, and Leonard, tended to identify the

[lace] Lace Dogs

2017-02-16 Thread b...@historichousehunter.com
Hi, Just to set the story straight, I actually have a Lacemakers' dog, a French Bulldog. I was raised with dogs, and adore them, but this is my first French Bulldog, and she's definitely the best breed I've ever had! I've even gotten her certified as a therapy dog because she has such a wonderful