Re: [lace] Lace, Virtual lace classes

2020-09-29 Thread DJ
Karen, You described using brightly colored threads for your beginners so that you can reference which pair of bobbins to address. A technique I used when I was working a very complex pattern was to trace the pathways of my pattern using colored pencils. Then I placed color matched elastics

RE: [lace] lace, Virtual lace classes

2020-09-29 Thread Carolyn Wetzel
I'm following this thread with great interest and am about to start my first virtual lace class as a student. It is needle lace instead of bobbin lace, so it will be interesting to see what challenges are unique to lace made in the hand vs on a pillow. Somehow students will need to arrange a

Re[2]: [lace] Lace, Virtual lace classes

2020-09-29 Thread Sue Babbs
And the cost of $150 for a year of Zoom seems very reasonable for the teacher to pay and share out over all the classes they teach in that year - much less than the costs of transportation, room hire etc Sue suebabbs...@gmail.com - - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com

Re: [lace] Lace, Virtual lace classes

2020-09-29 Thread Karen Thompson
Antje and other potential virtual teachers, I like to keep the virtual classes very small, 4-6 depending on their level of lacemaking skills. You can have the students send photos or have them scare their screen. Then you can annotate but that all takes extra time. I teach on Zoom and use

Re: [lace] Lace, Virtual lace classes

2020-09-29 Thread AGlez
Thank you very much, Karen. But how do you do as a teacher? imagine you have 8 students making the lace you are teaching, and that each of them has a different difficulty or are doing something wrong. But you cannot take their pillow... They have good diagrams, and pictures of the finished lace,

Re: [lace] Lace, Virtual lace classes

2020-09-29 Thread lynrbailey
I think there are a couple of other advantages to online classes. It might be possible to get teachers from far away to give classes in the Americas. Also, in Europe and Britain, where there are many more lace makers, weekly classes are common. Zoom plus a phone camera makes that relatively

[lace] Lace, Virtual lace classes

2020-09-29 Thread Karen Thompson
Hello all, I realize I need to clarify my response to the virtual lace classes. As a student, I have a large monitor, such as a desktop, laptop, or iPad in front of me to watch the demonstrations, and for the teacher to see me. Then I have a second camera, such as a phone, mounted over my lace

Re: [lace] lace, Virtual lace classes

2020-09-28 Thread Kim Davis
We began with Meet. It worked well until we tried to mount a second camera to show bobbin lace pillows. It is challenging to get a second camera mounted without the issue of feedback on Meet. It can be done, but adds an extra layer of frustration for the students. Zoom seems to have addressed

Re: [lace] lace, Virtual lace classes

2020-09-28 Thread AGlez
Deborah, thank you very much for your advice! I will take note of it. In fact, I like Zoom much better, it has more possibilities, even the free version of 40 minutes. But it had some security problems at the beginning of the pandemic, and some of my students do not want to use it. Anyway, I

Re: [lace] lace, Virtual lace classes

2020-09-28 Thread DJ
Antje, MEET is a Google product and some people will refuse to allow Google products on their phones or computers for security reasons. MEET would have to be downloaded and installed to their computer just like any other meeting software. We use ZOOM at all of our organizations. Both products

Re: [lace] lace, Virtual lace classes

2020-09-28 Thread Bobbi Donnelly
Dear Karen, I too am curious at how you're making out. Like Antje, the balance of a camera, computer, etc etc seems costly. I have been working with someone on very basic beginner things and it seems to be going ok but I can't imagine trying to teach finer laces via this process. Thanks for the

Re: [lace] lace, Virtual lace classes

2020-09-28 Thread AGlez
Thank you very much Karen for sharing your experience. It is of great help. I am trying to organize lessons via the Internet, and am finding some difficulties. I would like to make it as easy as possible for the students, and that means that they should not have to buy extra technology nor

[lace] lace, Virtual lace classes

2020-09-27 Thread Karen Thompson
Some of my random thoughts on virtual lace classes: Having both taught and taken several virtual lace classes, I think they are here to stay. There are both positives and negatives as with most things in life. I like that people can join from anywhere in the world without the expense and time of