Regarding 2yr olds being unable to differentiate between similar consonants if
they haven't been regularly exposed to them when younger. If I remember
correctly this came from a piece of Canadian research there is a native
language which uses consonants (sounds) not used in English, adults cannot
d
Got this from lace-chat 3 years ago, don't know who sent the original:
1, The bandage was wound around the wound
2, The farm was used to produce produce
3, The dump was so full that they had to refuse any more refuse
4, We must polish the Polish furniture
5, He could lead if he would get the lead
guage police can simply sigh
blissfully as we take it to bed with us at night!
Clay, hopping gracefully off my soap-box and returning to
lurkdom.
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From: "Jean Nathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Chat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, Februar
Jean writes
> This afternoon I bought the book "Eats shoots and leaves - The Zero
> Tolerance Approach to Punctuation"
Immediately brought back memories of Victor Borge and his piece
"Phonetic punctuation". I have a copy on an old 45rmp record
somewhere. He substituted sounds for punctuation
Tamara wrote:
I learnt it as "i before e except after c only if it rhymes with me", but
then there's bound to be exceptions to that.
This afternoon I bought the book "Eats shoots and leaves - The Zero
Tolerance Approach to Punctuation" by Lynne Truss, which is Number 3 on at
least the local non
i love that kind of phrases though i have to reach for my pronoucing
dictionnary .. lol ...we have some pretty ones in french too but then no
one would say French is an easy language to learn ..
dominique from Paris .
Peter Goldsmith a décidé d' écrire à Ò[lace-chat] Language is coolÓ.
[2004/0
I managed to decipher "kick the dunny down" but could one of the words be
"chooks"?
Patricia in Walws
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G'day Peter,
Welcome aboard. BTW I've always spelled it sulphur!!! :)
David in Ballarat
I don't know whether Possie is in general circulation or whether it is a word
my Uncle coined for those in the family that had become Aussie citizens.
Peter
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Yes English spelling can be really confusing. Weird is one word that doesn't
follow the general rule and Neil - my nephew's name - is another which really
confused me I always wanted to follow the rule. Rules in English spelling are
always only guidelines and as the old adage says 'The exception pr
Peter wrote:
>I love language and etymology - one of the reasons English spelling is so
>weird is it reflects the etymology of the word ie where the word came from.
>English spelling only really started to be standardised with the
introduction
>of the printing press to England by William Caxton an
You're right. What we call 'back bacon', you call 'Canadian bacon'.
For the benefit of our British friends, 'back bacon' is the closest
thing we have to your 'bacon', and our 'bacon' is close to your 'streaky
bacon'. Isn't language wonderful?
On Tuesday, February 17, 2004, at 08:40 PM, Clay
Here we go again - one of our favorite "twists" in chat...
talking about languages!
My DH was listening to a favorite entertainer on the radio
the other day and the entertainer (who is Canadian)
mentioned eating "back bacon on a bun"...
So could our Canadian friends tell me what this is? I'm
sus
With the change to strerm, I also got it. I have found the discussion on
language very interesting, I teach adult literacy as a volunteer and my
current student got very far in life with just "reading" or sounding out the
begining and ending of words and skipping the middle. With the addition of
co
> "hp ll yr chks trn nt ms nd kck yr dnny dwn."
> In the meantime:
> "m flt t lk lzrd drnkng".
> David in Ballarat
No problem David, but I wont post the answers - see if someone
overseas comes up with the right words! Perhap's Liz's tame
Aussie can tell here what a dnny is.
Again, these are compl
Ok Noelene,
Here's a REAL Australian one for you. Bet you get it too :)
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>strln sns lt s rjc fr w r yng nd fr
"hp ll yr chks trn nt ms nd kck yr dnny dwn."
In the meantime:
"m flt t lk lzrd drnkng".
David in Ballarat
I didn't get the US one, but this is "Australian sons
I was sent this some time ago but coming only recently to lace chat I dont
know whether it made it here.
H GAWD
This little treatise on the lovely language we share is only for the brave.
It was passed on by a linguist, original author unknown.
Peruse at your leisure, English lovers.
That was Peter and Jeanine with Don and I. I won't be going this year as it
is Don's 50th and we are spending the weekend up at the Gold Coast with my
brother who now lives there. With any luck, he is going to arrange as
behind the scenes tour for Don (and me) of the creative side of things at
Wa
Thanks Peter, now I can stop scratching my head about what STRMERM
was.
Actually, I think I met you and Jeanine in Eden last year with Lynn - anyone
going down this May for the weekend of lacing? I'm already looking forward
to it.
And yes, a great addition to Chat. Life would be quite dull with
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> Hi Ruth,
> I don't know whether Possie is in general circulation or whether it is a word
> my Uncle coined for those in the family that had become
> Aussie citizens.
>
> Peter
My tame Aussie is british b
Respect Joy?? What's that??!!!
Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia)
Joy Beeson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ah!
Australian sons, let us rejoice, for we are young and fair.
DUH!
If Australians are all young,
I expect proper respect for my gray hair when I turn up the week after next!
Try th
Hi Noelene,
As Lynn has already dobbed me in yes I'm the lacemaker from Wollongong or
actually Shellharbour, for the NSW lace guild Arachnaens I'm also your
vice-president.
Many apologies for number 8 somehow an extraneous M got into the puzzle - I
blame my dyslexic fingers.
No 8 should be STRERM.
Hi Ruth,
I don't know whether Possie is in general circulation or whether it is a word
my Uncle coined for those in the family that had become Aussie citizens.
Peter
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Ah Noelene, there is now another male online in Australia. I know Peter and
his wife Jeanine from lace, machine knitting, and machine embroidery. We
kept running into each other so we are now great friends. Peter is
brilliant at digitizing for machine embroidery, and with Jeanine's teaching
is b
Hi Peter,
Did I miss your "de-lurk" message? Where are you in Oz, what
got you on to our lace list? Oz male lacers are few and far between.
Besides David (of course) I only know of three - two in the ACT,
one in the Wollongong area, and one in Sydney (tatting), but I don't
know them by name.
1.
At 06:18 AM 2/16/04 +1100, W & N Lafferty wrote:
>strln sns lt s rjc fr w r yng nd fr
>
>Let's see if our American spiders can work that one out.
Starline sons, let us rejoice, for we are young and fair.
Ah!
Australian sons, let us rejoice, for we are young and fair.
DUH!
If Australi
> How many *native English speakers* from other
> countries (UK, OZ, Canada) also recognised and
> interpreted correctly the same truncated version?
>
> > Fr scr nd svn yrs g r frfthrs brght frth t ths ntn...
I got it fairly quickly: 'Fr scr' was hard, then 'nd svn yrs' got me into a
biblical refe
As an addendum to my last email - it's strange now living in Australia that I
did not recognise the first line of the Australian national anthem (hang head
in shame), but in my defence I think of only 3 occasions when I've actually
heard the Aussie anthem - I am not a sports lover, even when we had
Hey Noelene
It has been "strlns ll lt s rjc fr w r yng nd fr"
for many years "sns" was considered sxst so it was changed to "ll"
Helen
> strln sns lt s rjc fr w r yng nd fr
>
> Let's see if our American spiders can work that one out.
>
> Noelene in Cooma
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I had absolutely no idea what the Australian one was - brain obviously on
hold because I hadn't realised is *was* Australian even though the email
came from OZ.
I made it 'Sterling sins let us rejoice for we are young and free."
Jean in Poole
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>strln sns lt s rjc fr w r yng nd fr
I didn't get the US one, but this is "Australian sons let us rejoice for
we are young and free"?? As I said (privately) to Tamara, I wonder if
the differences in spelling between UK and U
Hi everyone
yes indeed language is cool
this one
> Fr scr nd svn yrs g r frfthrs brght frth t ths ntn...
I didn't recognize at first then realized it was some of the hackneyed
information (as in misquote) that trickles over the border and/or is
accessible to us in Canada because of our proximit
> How many *native English speakers* from other
> > countries (UK, OZ, Canada) also recognised and interpreted correctly
> > the same truncated version?
> >
> > > Fr scr nd svn yrs g r frfthrs brght frth t ths ntn...
Like Helen, it didn't just immediately make sense to me, but as I too love
cro
Tamara wrote:
Fr scr nd svn yrs g r frfthrs brght frth t ths ntn...>
As a UK English speaker it took me quite a while to work it out. To start
with, because it means nothing to me, I don't recognise it and couldn't make
a meaningful sentence or statement from it. It isn't a complete sentence
whi
It really is amazing the power of the brain. However, I would say the success
depends on how fluent a reader someone is. If the researchers only used
university students, (they're generally cheap and readily available), then the
research would be just a tad biased. Fluent readers will use the shape
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