DocCec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
In a message dated 98-04-26 16:15:28 EDT, you write:
<< think that this is a consumer driven industry and the
patients would have to complain before anything would be done. Doctors are
just the pawns of the insurance agency and the insurance companies only
"Ronald Helm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Is anything being done to address this, do you know? Is HCFA working on
it,
>or even aware of it?
>Doc
I don't know that HCFA is working on the problem or not. I am not sure what
agency would control this access issue. I certainly have not brought i
DocCec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
In a message dated 98-04-26 15:16:37 EDT, you write:
<< The above problem really sucks, IMHO. I assist a gyn - oncologist, and we
have to run around to five or six different hospitals and I think it really
interferes with patient care as one OR team is unab
"Ronald Helm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
that patients no longer
can pick their doctors, and around here neither doctor nor patient has
freedom
to select the hospital to be used. Our enterologists are especially upset
by
the last, since many of them now have to travel between half a dozen or m
DocCec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
In a message dated 98-04-26 13:40:40 EDT, you write:
<< So, it is difficult for a physician to sever that relationship once it
is established, but it can be done by jumping through all the hoops.
Interesting that the patient can just go elsewhere without
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Hi Doc:
We had to write a letter to the patient, send it registered mail, allow
significant time for the patient to get a new physician, and recommend
three physicians.
When the patient had picked a new physician we had to send the medical
records to th
"Ronald Helm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Is this true if there is an established relationship already, Ron? Or only
if
>a new relationship is in question?
>Doc
>
Any physician is free to notify an old patient that he no longer wishes to
be her doctor. When he breaks up the doctor/physician r
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> Subject: Re: L&I Woman 55 gives birth to 4 babies
> Date: Sunday, April 26, 1998 12:17 AM
>
> Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>
> Hi Joan:
>
> I may be wrong, but I get the impression that he had no idea that she
> could not afford this
s requesting is wrong??
Joan
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> From: Ronald Helm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: L&I Woman 55 gives birth to 4 babies
> Date: Saturday, April 25, 1998 6:08 PM
>
> "Ronald Helm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
DocCec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
In a message dated 98-04-25 18:10:21 EDT, you write:
<< Unless a patient
presents with a life threatening emergent condition, the doctor patient
relationship is established essentially as a two person contract. Just as
she is free to decide whether she wa
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Hi Joan:
I may be wrong, but I get the impression that he had no idea that she
could not afford this pregnancy or the children. She paid cash for the
procedure.
Sue
> Hello Sue,
>
> >From Ron's post, it seems the Dr. may have some excuse . However,
"Ronald Helm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
The doctor claimed that he could not discriminate against a 55 year old
woman, so I am sure, since she came up with the money to pay him, that he
could not discriminate against her because of her financial status. This is
of course all a bunch of bullsh
Joan
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> From: Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: L&I Woman 55 gives birth to 4 babies
> Date: Saturday, April 25, 1998 5:11 PM
>
> Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>
> Hi Joan:
>
> Accordi
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Hi Joan:
According to the story today in the San Diego Union, it looks like the
doc got hoodwinked too. Actually I feel sorry for him. His reputation
is on the line now.
Unfortunately no matter what happens here, the ones that are going to
suffer are
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> Subject: Re: L&I Woman 55 gives birth to 4 babies
> Date: Friday, April 24, 1998 1:26 PM
>
> Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>
> Hi Vi:
>
> It's nuts. IMO
>
> But it was her alone, she doesn't have a husband or anything,
"Ronald Helm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
I heard that this woman somehow paid for the in vitro out of her pocket. I
know of no insurance or state that pays for in vitro. Ron
99 percent of lawyers give the rest a bad name.
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"Ronald Helm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
The boy baby, weighing a mere 10 ounces, apparently suffered what we call
"intrauterine growth retardation", where the three sibs got all the blood
flow and nutrients, starving him nearly to death. Once delivered he has
some chance of survival because h
DocCec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
In a message dated 98-04-24 16:10:43 EDT, you write:
<< The birth weights
are not on them, but the news yesterday said the little boy weighed 10
oz, and the girls weighed almost 3 lbs.
>>
That's what I had heard too, Sue. Three pounds is a reasonable w
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Hi Doc:
I went out and got two stories about this for you. The birth weights
are not on them, but the news yesterday said the little boy weighed 10
oz, and the girls weighed almost 3 lbs.
Sue
>
> << All four children are in intensive care, critical
DocCec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
In a message dated 98-04-23 23:22:01 EDT, you write:
<< All four children are in intensive care, critical condition. As you say
if they make it the cost will be mind-boggling, and the great citizens
of California get to pay for it. Aren't we generous.
DocCec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
In a message dated 98-04-24 03:35:38 EDT, you write:
<< What's even crazier is that San Francisco doctors would agree to provide
invitro-fertilization to a couple who not only cannot take care of
themselves in all probability, but with four more mouths to fe
DocCec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
In a message dated 98-04-23 21:52:51 EDT, you write:
<< This woman is unemployed, lives alone, and on welfare. The estimated
costs are 400 thousand dollars for the first year. The little boy
weighs 10 oz. :( >>
I really wonder why the AMA (or equivalent
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Hi Vi:
It's nuts. IMO
But it was her alone, she doesn't have a husband or anything, and she
paid cash for the procedure. So they probably didn't know that there
was going to be those other problems.
What I don't understand though is with her financia
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Viola Provenzano) writes:
Hi Sue,
What's even crazier is that San Francisco doctors would agree to provide
invitro-fertilization to a couple who not only cannot take care of
themselves in all probability, but with four more mouths to feed, leave
it up to the California tax pa
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Viola Provenzano) writes:
Hi Sue,
What's even crazier is that San Francisco doctors would agree to
invitro fertilization for a couple who have to call on Medical to pick up
the cost of bringing
_
You don't
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> This woman is unemployed, lives alone, and on welfare. The estimated
> costs are 400 thousand dollars for the first year. The little boy
> weighs 10 oz.
>
> And will likely not survive this ordeal, at least not intact. The cost to
> raise this micro
"Ronald Helm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
This woman is unemployed, lives alone, and on welfare. The estimated
costs are 400 thousand dollars for the first year. The little boy
weighs 10 oz.
And will likely not survive this ordeal, at least not intact. The cost to
raise this micronate will
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Hi Doc:
A new infant to 3 1/2 mths, as my grandson is, isn't really that much
work. For the first month all he did was sleep, eat, and pee. But now
he wants to play. And he is awake for a couple of hours at a time, then
asleep for about a half and the
DocCec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
In a message dated 98-04-23 20:40:54 EDT, you write:
<< After taking care of my grandson every day for the
past three and half months I can't see how anyone at 55 could possibly
take care of four little ones by themselves. I get worn out, and I
don't even
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
At 55 year old single woman just gave birth to 4 babies, 3 girls and 1
boy in San Diego. The births were a result of invitro fertilization.
The babies were born by C-section at 27 weeks.
No doctor in the San Diego area would agree to do this so she w
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