Hi Marti,
I work on display stuff for an image manipulation programm under
*nix/mac/win in C. I have to display there 8bit_int - 32bit_floats, so I
hope the 16bit integers precission of lcms is a good joice for this task.
I read Your documentation and the tutorial and remaining with an hole
in my
Sorry, now I read the TIFF-6.0 specification.
For Lab - a and b can be + and -.
That should explain what happend.
For only little expierienced in CMM, like me, much to learn.
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Hi,
lcms-1.11 compiles with gcc-3.2.3 and glibc-2.3.2 under linux.
Nearly all files are set executeable in the tar.gz . I attach an ls of the
tar.
thanks
Kai-Uwe Behrmann
Am 09.09.03, 10:23 +0200 schrieb Marti Maria:
Dear lcms users
Due a recent Job shift I have been very busy lately, so
for CIE Lab? - as unassociated alpha?
I know this matter is far away from dayly used RGB, but Lab is
requested more and more, and I want to produce exchangeable files.
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Marti,
Am 03.12.03, 16:35 +0100 schrieb Marti Maria:
I've managed to set correct permissions. Seems latest versions of Cygwin does
support atributtes too. So, many thanks for point this
out.
Thanks for changing this.
Regarding floating point, I really appreciate any contribution. But I'm
Hi,
I like to do optimized standard transformations outside lcms.
Are the conversions between PCS XYZ - Lab and from PCS - sRGB
matrix based? So it would be simple to do the math in the application.
Is this approach possible?
If yes, where can I find these matrixes? Are they publically
Marti,
ICC2LCMS is used as well outside tifficc.c . (I have accidentialy
createt my own version in cinepaint.)
Can You put in one of the next releases the reverse of
LCMSAPI icColorSpaceSignature LCMSEXPORT _cmsICCcolorSpace(int OurNotation);
Maybe calling the reverse _cmsLcmsColorSpace .
As
Hi,
thanks.
Your snippet brings me a step further. Everything is now visible.
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Am 13.03.04, 15:27 +0100 schrieb Marti Maria:
There is a small mistake here. cmsReadICCLut is supposed to return
a LUT structure, which is not a gamma table.
Try this:
LPLUT Lut = cmsReadICCLut(
Am 15.03.04, 15:17 - schrieb John Cupitt:
Hi Kai-Uwe,
Kai-Uwe Behrmann wrote:
I read the Eye One color measurement device can been used for
device calibration. Did somebody us it to measure real world colors and
intensities? Is it useable for reflective measuring like paintings
Usually the scribus icc folder is not related to lcms. Scribus uses lcms
as library. So lcms has no control over file locations.
Better You post to the scribus mailing list to get out theyre correct
icc path.
To detect available profiles for any application is not yet implemented
for linux.
Hi,
thanks for the copyright tag now interfaced. Additionaly I would like to
customize the whitepoint tag description on my own. Marti, can You
therefore please remove the Whitepoint: string in
_cmsIdentifyWhitePoint for the next release?
The new integer routines seems to have problems with
Marti,
I found something in my own app. 1.12 seems to be more tollerant with my
bug.
CHANNELS_SH(3) EXTRA_SH(1) causes my problem with 8-bit CMYKs. For
16-bit lcms let it pass. So I was irritated and thought it has something
to do with the profile.
Anyway, setting CHANNELS_SH(4) EXTRA_SH(0) is
Am 11.05.04, 17:04 +0800 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
What are Your experiences with camera calibration?
The procedure to generate ICC profile for both scanner and DSC should be
same, but the problem is scanner use fixed illuminant, DSC may change
illuminants,
that means you can generate lot
Am 24.05.04, 10:58 -0700 schrieb Troy Wu:
Unfortunately, being able to measure output values only solves half the
problem. For a full color-correction workflow, I need to be able to
soft-proof, which requires that my monitor is profiled and calibrated.
To do so requires a colorimeter--or
color management. Responsible software should add if this
is the users intention.
CRTs. Applications should always allow the user to explicitly specify
the input color space to use.
thanks for sharing Your thoughts
Kai-Uwe Behrmann
Am 26.05.04, 18:11 +0200 schrieb Gerhard Fuernkranz:
I guess it's a very similar situation as with Windows GDI printers. The
manufacturers attempt to make the instrument as dumb as possible and to do
the more complicated computations in software on the host, since this makes
the devices
Hi,
as far as I understand CIE*Lab is an way to describe colors, which may or
may not be physically existent.
My question is which is the colorspacebody of physically ideal
refrective media? What is the belonging gamut of Lab?
Is it possible to shrink such an colorspacebody to an special
Hi Peter,
I am not very firm with static linking, but could it be You need to feed
-llcms intead of -lcms to the linker?
Hope this helps
Kai-Uwe Behrmann
Am 01.07.04, 15:27 +0800 schrieb Peter:
Hello Marti,
I have compile lcms v1.1.3 on Mac OS X (10.3.4 + Dev Tools 1.1), and it
works
.
The target I used was the C1 from Wolf Faust. Look at www.coloraid.de for
more information. It is an A4 non glossy IT8.
regards
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Am 01.07.04, 13:30 +0200 schrieb Mikolaj Tutak:
Hi!
I shot some Kodak Color taget with my EOS 300D, then I converted RAW's into
48bpp TIFF's. Here is small
-profile.
:-) Jan-Peter
Kai-Uwe Behrmann wrote:
as far as I understand CIE*Lab is an way to describe colors, which may or
may not be physically existent.
My question is which is the colorspacebody of physically ideal
refrective media? What is the belonging gamut of Lab
PM, Kai-Uwe Behrmann wrote:
Hi Peter,
I am not very firm with static linking, but could it be You need to
feed
-llcms intead of -lcms to the linker?
Hope this helps
Kai-Uwe Behrmann
Am 01.07.04, 15:27 +0800 schrieb Peter:
Hello Marti,
I have compile lcms v1.1.3 on Mac
Hi,
what is the purpouse of the chrm - chromaticityType encoding tag?
I found it in several profiles created by lcms profilers. Arent the
[r,g,b,k]XYZ tags allready enough?
Marti,
I am unshure with the above tag. I read the number of device channels and
the encoded phosphors as uint16Numbers (2
of this,
but they are not that convenient.
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while valgrind-ing in CinePaint, I have many messages about memory access
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Anyway I dont know how to observe an certain memory block for read/write
access. Hints
the result?
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Marti,
I've obtained cgats measurement data with spectral nmxxx (Nanometer)
content in BEGIN_DATA_FORMAT / END_DATA_FORMAT scope. Can You please make
arbitrary DATA_FORMAT identifiers visible in lcms? It would help me with
this content.
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Hi,
while brightening HDRs I see often the coloured halos arround the sun,
clouds and other bright regions. I understand that an simple clipping of
one channel befor the maximum of all other channels is reached causes such
hue shifts. Only I thought lcms is able to do an hue preserving clip.
for CinePaint and any other
profile handling HDR application.
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in CinePaint without beeing afraid to get
lost of 1.0 values ;)
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Am 17.09.04, 02:26 +0200 schrieb Gerhard Fuernkranz:
Kai-Uwe Behrmann schrieb:
agree. Only an example: the SGILOGLUV encoding in the TIFF spec is XYZ. I
simply like to handle these images as XYZ in floating point color space,
and see them through the correct monitor profile on screen
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pass to cmsCreateTransform() ?
cmsFLAGS_NOTPRECALC?
cmsFLAGS_HIGHRESPRECALC?
Precalculated device links are not too accurate for a XYZ or linear RGB space.
cmsFLAGS_NOTPRECALC will give the best result, but is slower.
See atachment.
Best Regards,
Gerhard
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Scribus,
GraphicsMagic and the others.
I come soon in need to interoperate with different applications. managing
default profiles, paths, using starter scripts ...
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of the input profile has
gamma = 1.0 .
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Am 02.11.04, 13:46 - schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
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Marti,
You suggest to use tiff tags (whitepoint, primary chromaticies, ...) to
obtain sufficient data for on-the-fly profile creation.
Are there reasons not to support it in tifficc?
My
Ross,
thanks for pointing out this behaviour. I will change this in my code.
This message may be helpfull to the lcms list too. Therefore I crosspost.
As about libtiff fax coding I must pass. I am coming from the float side,
working on HDR imagery.
kind regards
Kai-Uwe Behrmann
Hi,
lcms includes the above mentioned files for the iccjpeg utility. I like to
give credits to the author(s) while using it. Who is the original author
and did You, Marti, bring modifications in, so I should put Your name
somewhere too.
regards
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Am 14.12.04, 09:49 +0100 schrieb Boudewijn Rempt:
I've been experimenting, and I definitely need to cache at least some
transforms. It turns out to be prohibitively slow to recreate the transform
to the monitor profile for every display action, for instance.
Can You describe the display
knowledge
is mostly helpful doing it right from the beginning.
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the
same memory across applications and save space. Is taking the profile id's
of both involved profiles plus creation options sufficent?
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On Mon, 13 Dec 2004, Kai-Uwe Behrmann wrote:
The offsets can easily been exchanged through Oyranos, as well as the
othe parameters influencing the transform. As an option the chache can
been removed after switching the computer off.
It is important to note that expecting a shared memory system
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will put such an type in
the global namespace too.
I know about the #define workaround You suggested. As it seems an
repeated request I like to confirm.
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Hi,
Kai-Uwe Behrmann said:
As X is an large project, I prefere to ask You in the first place.
Would You mind to rename the typedef BOOL in the lcms header?
and Hans Leidekker said:
It would also be nice if no editing is needed for the header to be
useable on Windows and non-Windows
are not living that far away. The Linux-Bus will bring people
from Berlin over Dresden to Chemnitz.
For more reading about linux and colour management follow the link below.
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you describe. The results are ok.
dE is much better since I use cmsFLAGS_NOTPRECALC ;)
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Mike,
an null 3D grid is not defined. It is legal by an CMM to reject because
of this state. The null 3D grid profiles of lcms are for internal usage
only. Better not to export or embed them.
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be found in the tifficc command line util,
which is provided with the lcms library. You can look at the sources.
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the
(scanner/camera) image.
Where should we actually do embeddeding of Profiles into such files ???
Kindly clear my doubts.
Look at the lcms file tools for examples.
Thanks and regards,
Karthik bala guru
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Hi,
Additionally attched a view at the *b channel of the generated CLUT.
Hue and Saturation where changed. Maybe this explains the funny results?
Brightness and Contrast works more explainable to me.
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for v4 tables only.
Maybe I give it a try.
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Am 22.05.05, 21:47 +0200 schrieb Gerhard Fuernkranz:
Kai-Uwe Behrmann schrieb:
white is encoded as 685 (not 255), and black as 95 (as you say). However,
Yes you are right here as well as Bob with 685 not 255.
these values seem to be only the default values, and my interpretation
digital backs I have seen except of the Spheron HDR scancamera.
Slide film can nothing do about insufficient scanners.
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Am 22.05.05, 23:11 +0200 schrieb Gerhard Fuernkranz:
Kai-Uwe Behrmann schrieb:
No problem to create the curves and the usual RGB clipping casts too. Soft
clipping does not help.
You mean, although this seems to be the standardized method for conversion
from log encoding to video RGB
.
Anyway with renaming the colour space from Lab to RGB the profile works.
It is about Lindbloom's Uniform Perceptual Lab profile.
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profile deals with
a tweaked Lab, so I wonder if the profile should be tagged as using Lab at
all. That's not the Lab space all we are used.
Well, that [L]*ab is somewhat rotated. Calling it internally RGB should be
ok.
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in the oyranos_profiles_base package editing and
then reusing under the same name is not allowed.
You can download at:
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command line: use jpegicc coming with lcms
gui: CinePaint www.cinepaint.org
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Casper,
best is to convert into a 16-bit depth Lab buffer, then correct and go
back to whatever you need. You should then be done with nearly every
colour space.
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the later if you
plan to use ICC Examin as colour viewer in CinePaint on osX.
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Marti,
is it useful to place the matrix simply in the matrix part of a mft2 LUT?
Perhaps this would suffice building a valid XYZ abstract profile?
All other parts of the mft2 can be filled with defaults.
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a matrix based display profile
that simply converts to sRGB?
The matrix one would be the prefered.
Thanks to everyone for all the comments!
Bernhard
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Hi,
is there a example to get the real xy primaries from an given matrix
profile, including white point adaption?
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Pealow,
you can look at the www.color.org site to get the ICC profile
specification. It is a good starting point.
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Marti,
thanks for the hint.
An other question comes to my mind:
for the absolute intent you need to guess, when chrm or chad are absent?
Or how does you find out the original primaries, which are lost during the
Wtpt-D50 transformation?
regards
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Hello,
ICC Examin, the profile tag viewer, is even more colourfull.
It can be compiled with Oyranos support on Linux, or take the binaries,
which are available as Linux RPMs and osX bundle/package including the
needed libraries.
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Am 05.12.05, 22:36 +0100 schrieb
would be welcome to be not that hard with the blackpreservation, allowing
a soft transition from total blackpreservation to introduction of K
colour where appropriate (for originally CMY only colours) - to preserve
appearance.
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add -llcms to the command line. This links the lcms library with the
missing function in:
gcc -g -B/usr/local/include -L/path/to/lcms -llcms -o test1 test1.c
Am 26.01.06, 11:26 - schrieb Dermot Paikkos:
Hi,
Sorry I think this is more a C question than an lcms question. I did
post to
Marti,
I've got the impression that the above constellation results allways in
black, but did not search in lcms for that. Could this be?
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simulation in
PS. This would be nice to have in lcms in one step - using the proofing
profiles media whitepoint with proofing intent
INTENT_ABSOLUTE_COLORIMETRIC as described above.
Anyway the results for printing are impressive. Many thanks to Marti.
kind regards
Kai-Uwe Behrmann
in CinePaint.
Louis Solomon
www.SteelBytes.com
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The proofing intent works as intented using media whitepoint for
absolute colorimetric intent, other than I wrote in my previous mail.
Lcms seems to behave correctly in this regard.
Sorry for any confusion to others, caused by me.
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Andrea,
the atan2deg looks ok to me. The result is here the same with ICC Examin.
Lcms has a similiar function integrated (cmsCIE2000DeltaE). So you can
look at various implementations sources.
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o changed Behaviour and GUI API's
o start BSD support
o Solaris support
o change build system
o elekra-0.6
Changes in ICC Examin:
o Xinerama monitor configuration / detection
o better configure and operating system support, like above
.. and not to forget: bugfixes.
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Am 30.07.06, 15:50 -0500 schrieb Paul Miller:
Kai-Uwe Behrmann wrote:
Do I need to do a transform on LOAD to get the image into some common
working space (like sRGB), then another transform at display time to
integrate the desired output profile? If the image contains an ICC
profile
seen?:
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=2980494forum_id=1912
Am 02.08.06, 10:37 -0500 schrieb Paul Miller:
What is the correct way to save a profile into a chunk of memory to be
embedded in a saved image file?
I see there is a _cmsSaveProfileToMem() but the docs say
conversion by panotools might be overkill and or not appreciated. This is
refered to panotools as middleware, unlike as for instance hugin or ptgui
which should handle more things in order to do a propper colour management.
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the names
are correct. (Even though they are not beautiful.)
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language wrappers
o +++
?
It would make sense to some traditional C programmers ;-)
Thanks for consideration.
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some errors with the mluc tag repeatedly occure. It is the reason for
constant crashes if I have a certain profile in the paths.
Sees someone else such problems?
Attached is the valgrind output.
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Am 19.10.06, 20:41 +0200 schrieb Gerhard Fuernkranz:
Kai-Uwe Behrmann wrote:
Hello,
found that CinePaint crashes on softproofing without proofing profile.
Beside this strangeness in the gui, lcms should perform a gamut check
without proofing profile?
IMO a gamut check may also
the optimised versions for 8/16 bit conversion is still
desired.
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should be ok, as all reandering is done before in your concept. So, whats
the problem here?
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Possibly reducing the number of blending colour spaces is a solution.
Blending of mixed colour space layers is not a consistent thing anyway.
You could read the pdf spec how it was solved there. Chapter 7.2.3
in the pdf reference 1.6 for instance.
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Dear readers,
just for your information:
The Color Transformation Language code was brought recently to
SourceForge.
Read more:
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Am 15.12.06, 08:53 -0800 schrieb darby johnston:
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just for your information:
The Color Transformation Language code was brought
recently to
SourceForge.
How does this compare to lcms? Is it complementary or
a substitute
Hello,
is it correct to write:
char LanguageCode[2], CountryCode[2];
LanguageCode[0] = 'd';
LanguageCode[0] = 'e';
CountryCode[0] = 'D';
CountryCode[1] = 'E';
cmsSetLanguage( (int)LanguageCode, (int)CountryCode );
or do I need to byteswap before?
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Hello Marti,
*char would be fine
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Am 20.01.2007 um 20:37 schrieb Marti Maria:
Hi Kai-Uwe,
The ordering should be big endian, so it is correct only in a Mac.
Probably I should fix that in next release, maybe allowing char*
instead of
int?
Regards
Marti
this in the proofing
transform with cmsCreateProofingTransform.
For a working example you could look at the CinePaint code. It may help
you a bit further:
app/cms.c cms_create_transform().
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position to start
send beams into all directions
scan for valid conversions and holes
trace holes and borders down to a acceptable resolution
render the point cloud to a mesh
1. is the most quick but is not as precise
2. needs somewhat longer
3. not tested myself
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usualy fit to the same colourspace to go once further.
... and of course, the precision decelerates with more links.
Sometimes a profile comes with just one direction in its tables. Then
possibly you can't go back. I saw some scanner profiles like this.
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is only possibly with matrix profiles, best without gamma and outside
the above described way.
If you consider going open source, the final application could be of
general interesst.
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Am 05.03.07, 14:41 -0300 schrieb gga:
Kai-Uwe Behrmann wrote:
HDR is only possibly with matrix profiles, best without gamma and outside
the above described way.
Yes, that's one reason for me to wanting to avoid doing lcms transforms
and needing the data raw and not wanting lcms to do
Am 05.03.07, 19:03 +0100 schrieb Gerhard Fürnkranz:
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Sometimes a profile comes with just one direction in its tables. Then
possibly you can't go back. I saw some scanner profiles like this.
Input profiles generally support only the device - PCS
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