Re: [Ldsoss] Automatic Update in Java

2007-09-04 Thread Shawn Willden
On Tuesday 04 September 2007 08:30:09 am Jay Askren wrote: > I'm working on an open source project in which I want to make updating > the application very easy. For instance Firefox automatically updates > itself when there is an update. MLS from the church does the same > thing. I want to do th

Re: [Ldsoss] Mediawiki or something else?

2007-05-30 Thread Shawn Willden
On Wednesday 30 May 2007 07:36:45 am Gordon Clarke wrote: > We compared drupal, plone, and joomla. Decided on plone. I came up with the same answer, got it all installed and configured, and then discovered that plone + apache + postfix + clamav + mailman was too much for the 512MB RAM my virtual

Re: [Ldsoss] Re: HT and VT Tool

2007-05-24 Thread Shawn Willden
On Thursday 24 May 2007 09:58:41 am Steven H. McCown wrote: > For the really paranoid, NIST is recommending that federal agencies stop > using SHA-1, since it's been cracked (along with MD5), and instead use the > SHA-2 family of hash algorithms. The recently-discovered weaknesses in MD-5 and SHA-

Re: [Ldsoss] Re: HT and VT Tool

2007-05-22 Thread Shawn Willden
On Tuesday 22 May 2007 04:58:34 pm Thomas Haws wrote: > Whatever happened to "resist not evil"? :-D It was later qualified with "be ye therefore wise as serpents" :-) Shawn. ___ Ldsoss mailing list Ldsoss@lists.ldsoss.org http://lists.ldsoss.or

Re: [Ldsoss] Re: HT and VT Tool

2007-05-22 Thread Shawn Willden
On Tuesday 22 May 2007 02:52:47 pm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I don't think you could guess anyone's confirmation date > with any degree of success regardless of if they were BIC or not. Sure you can. It just depends on how many tries you get. Give me, say, 50 attempts and I'll bet it's a very

Re: [Ldsoss] Re: HT and VT Tool

2007-05-22 Thread Shawn Willden
On Tuesday 22 May 2007 02:09:22 pm Stacey wrote: > Well, for example, with someone's MRN (and confirmation date) you sign > up for an account on the ward/stake web site or buy garments/temple > clothing off ldscatalog.com as a non-member. And the confirmation date is fairly guessable for most memb

Re: [Ldsoss] Fireside talk on the Internet

2007-05-16 Thread Shawn Willden
On Tuesday 15 May 2007 10:56:26 pm Gary Thornock wrote: > I also depend primarily on DansGuardian on BSD for my content > filtering, and I agree that it's not something that most parents > can set up. I can, and did, but turned it off. We've decided to handle the issue a different way, with the

Re: [Ldsoss] Database for FamilySearch OpenSource Client

2007-05-15 Thread Shawn Willden
On Tuesday 15 May 2007 12:56:05 pm David Hale wrote: > It may just be my gut feel, but I would probably only use Derby for > a "development" database rather than to depend on it for a "production" > environment. My current project (at work) is using embedded Derby for production work, and has be

Re: [Ldsoss] Database for FamilySearch OpenSource Client

2007-05-15 Thread Shawn Willden
On Tuesday 15 May 2007 01:19:39 pm John Finlay wrote: > If you use something like JPA and Hibernate you can allow users to setup > the client with their favorite DB through a simple configuration file. Absolutely. I think this is a really big advantage of using an abstraction layer like JPA/Hibe

Re: [Ldsoss] Database for FamilySearch OpenSource Client

2007-05-15 Thread Shawn Willden
On Tuesday 15 May 2007 09:23:45 am Steven H. McCown wrote: > I'll second those with my emphasis being on Derby. With all the OSing that > Sun is doing is the Derby source available? Derby isn't from Sun, it's from IBM (original name was Cloudscape). And, yes, source is available, under the Apac

Re: [Ldsoss] Database for FamilySearch OpenSource Client

2007-05-15 Thread Shawn Willden
On Friday 15 June 2007 08:51:04 am Gordon Clarke wrote: > 3) What do you think about the Derby? H2? I've used Derby extensively as an embedded database, with Hibernate to do OO mapping. I found it to be fast, bug-free and very easy to work with. I haven't used H2. Shawn.

Re: [Ldsoss] NAS and Firewall Hardware / Software

2007-05-15 Thread Shawn Willden
On Tuesday 15 May 2007 12:26:08 am Kevin Wise wrote: > I'd really like one piece of hardware > that does both. In my mind this would save me maintenance (fewer > patches to apply) and maybe even cost. Any comments? I can see value in separating firewall and other functionality, but I personally

Re: [Ldsoss] VOIP Service providers ... which one?

2007-05-10 Thread Shawn Willden
On Thursday 10 May 2007 09:09:25 am David B Heise wrote: > That depends. Telco has their own power, most cable companies do not (from > my experience). With a large power outage (I've been in > several...Ohio-NewYork a couple years back, and recently here in the > Washington windstorm) VOIP is out

Re: [Ldsoss] VOIP Service providers ... which one?

2007-05-10 Thread Shawn Willden
On Wednesday 09 May 2007 11:16:41 pm Steven H. McCown wrote: > The real problem with VoIP is that it doesn't work when the power goes out. > Neither does 911. Not without a backup power supply, anyway. If this is a concern, youc can buy a UPS and plug the VOIP box and router into it. These devi

Re: [Ldsoss] PHP remote development environment

2007-04-24 Thread Shawn Willden
On Tuesday 24 April 2007 07:32:33 pm Thomas Haws wrote: > 2. Install a local development environment. I don't know what this > would involve, but I like to be able to access my development > environment from anywhere. Do this one. Not only will it make your development easier, but it's the only

Re: [Ldsoss] Linux News -- at least to me

2007-04-24 Thread Shawn Willden
On Tuesday 24 April 2007 10:02:35 am Jeffrey Dunster wrote: > But my biggest gripe is the forced upgrades every few years. That was what forced me to Moneydance. When Intuit "patched" my perfectly-functional copy of Quicken to disable its ability to download transactions so that I'd have to bu

Re: [Ldsoss] Linux News -- at least to me

2007-04-24 Thread Shawn Willden
On Tuesday 24 April 2007 07:50:09 am Steven H. McCown wrote: > This was an amazing thing (for a diehard Windows user) is that 1) it all > actually worked, and 2) that it was completely free. I did have to spend > 45 min or so to figure all this out, but I'm a CS guy and that's what we do > for fun

Re: [Ldsoss] Some things you guys might be interested in

2007-04-10 Thread Shawn Willden
On Tuesday 10 April 2007 10:21, Paul Penrod wrote: > Saw that this morning. We'll see how long that lasts. Verizon really wants > this and a stay is one appeal away from being overturned. Well, it was the appellate court that stayed the injunction, so to get the stay overturned, Verizon would ha

Re: [Ldsoss] Some things you guys might be interested in

2007-04-09 Thread Shawn Willden
On Monday 09 April 2007 23:01, Paul Penrod wrote: > The problem Vonage has as of today, is they won a stay of the shut down > injunction, but Verizon got one through on Vonage signing up new customers. The appeals court has stayed that injunction, so Vonage will be allowed to continue signing up

Re: [Ldsoss] Some things you guys might be interested in

2007-04-09 Thread Shawn Willden
On Monday 09 April 2007 18:59, Jesse Stay wrote: > Re: the Vonage script, do you have to have the softphone feature of > Vonage to use it? Or is there some way to make calls from my computer > without paying extra for a softphone account using my normal Vonage I just tried it with my regular Vona

Re: [Ldsoss] wikipedia becoming anti-mormon?

2007-04-03 Thread Shawn Willden
On Monday 02 April 2007 20:06, Shane Hathaway wrote: > I wonder how those involved in that article would feel about splitting > the article into primary vs. secondary information. I think that's an excellent idea, and would probably be very well-received by those who are interested in NPOV and cl

Re: [Ldsoss] One Laptop Per Child

2007-01-05 Thread Shawn Willden
On Friday 05 January 2007 15:52, Steven H. McCown wrote: > Now, for another curiosity... Rural areas of 3rd world countries are a > bit away from WiFi and the Internet. That will make them somewhat of a > separate community. It will be interesting to see how groups of people > will have used th

Re: [Ldsoss] One Laptop Per Child

2007-01-05 Thread Shawn Willden
On Friday 05 January 2007 09:38, m h wrote: > I'm not sure I get your point. Are you saying that the interface > should be the same as "grown up" computers? Or are you saying that if > you were traveling through Africa you wouldn't stoop down low enough > to use said computer created by "American

Re: [Ldsoss] Fwd: LDSOSS Tech Talk announcement

2007-01-04 Thread Shawn Willden
On Thursday 04 January 2007 06:49, Jay Askren wrote: > Not living in Utah, I won't be able to make it to this event. I would be > very greatful if someone wanted to take notes and send their notes to the > list. Has a podcast been considered? That would enable the widest interested group to see

Re: [Ldsoss] Internet Filter

2007-01-03 Thread Shawn Willden
On Wednesday 03 January 2007 19:26, Gary Thornock wrote: > The first thought that came to mind was to use transparent > proxy-style firewall rules, but then I wondered, given that the > browser and the proxy would be running on the same machine, > whether iptables could distinguish between an outbo

Re: [Ldsoss] Internet Filter

2007-01-03 Thread Shawn Willden
On Wednesday 03 January 2007 08:39, Shawn Willden wrote: > On Wednesday 03 January 2007 08:18, Jay Askren wrote: > > If there is a way to use Dan's Guardian to filter > > the computer it's on so it's not easy to get around the filter, I'd be > > interes

Re: [Ldsoss] Internet Filter

2007-01-03 Thread Shawn Willden
On Wednesday 03 January 2007 08:18, Jay Askren wrote: > If there is a way to use Dan's Guardian to filter > the computer it's on so it's not easy to get around the filter, I'd be > interested in hearing how to do that. I can think of two. First, you can use iptables to set up a transparent proxy,

Re: [Ldsoss] Internet Filter

2007-01-02 Thread Shawn Willden
On Tuesday 02 January 2007 14:26, Jay Askren wrote: > Does anyone know of a good internet filter for linux? I do know about > Dan's Guardian(http://dansguardian.org/) which is a good server filter, but > I'm looking for a client side filter. Dan's Guardian isn't a server filter. It is a proxy se

Re: [Ldsoss] Ward Website Email Broadcasting

2006-12-15 Thread Shawn Willden
On Friday 15 December 2006 06:24, Steven H. McCown wrote: > Here are some alternative ideas: I like your suggestions, and I'd like to highlight the observation that underlies all of them: The existing system indirectly uses the clerk as the gatekeeper, so why not make the role explicit? Let me

Re: [Ldsoss] New copyright laws...

2006-11-28 Thread Shawn Willden
On Tuesday 28 November 2006 07:11, Steven H. McCown wrote: > As an FYI, the U.S. Copyright Office relaxed its rules, somewhat, the other > day. Breaking cell phone locks and DVD encryption is legal -- but only for > certain purposes. You can take your phone to a new carrier and make DVD > *clips*

Re: [Ldsoss] Wireless Networks in Church Buildings

2006-11-22 Thread Shawn Willden
On Tuesday 21 November 2006 17:45, Paul Penrod wrote: > That's what PPP is: Point to Point via TCP/IP. Perhaps I'm misreading what you mean to say, but it sounds like you're saying PPP rides on top of TCP/IP which isn't correct. PPP can ride on any bit-oriented data stream. It *can* be layered

Re: [Ldsoss] Recommendations for family history site tools

2006-10-28 Thread Shawn Willden
On Saturday 28 October 2006 14:29, RedBugz Software wrote: > The PHPGedView and Gallery2 integrations went pretty well, and they > synchronize the users and login so it's all controlled by the Drupal > logins. That's a very nice feature. I have a gallery2 install, but I was planning on keeping i

Re: [Ldsoss] Recommendations for family history site tools

2006-10-28 Thread Shawn Willden
On Saturday 28 October 2006 10:05, m h wrote: > Since it appears you're looking for a CMS system, drupal is quite > popular. It appears there is a ged plugin as well[1]. Is it easier to set up/manage than Plone? Or are there other advantages for what I'm doing? I'm hoping to avoid having to le

Re: [Ldsoss] Recommendations for family history site tools

2006-10-28 Thread Shawn Willden
On Saturday 28 October 2006 09:58, Jesse Stay wrote: > I just use Mediawiki for my family, and it has worked great. I set > up a good howto page in the help section so people could learn how to > post stories and other articles themselves, and set up access > rights. I also loaded an extension th

[Ldsoss] Recommendations for family history site tools

2006-10-28 Thread Shawn Willden
Hi, I'm setting up a new family history collaboration site for, and I'm looking for tool recommendations. What I want to do is set up a web site that can be managed by the people leading the research efforts about my family. In the past, I ran the site (big pile 'o HTML) and made all the chan

Re: [Ldsoss] Boy Scouts get a "Respect Copyrights" activity badge

2006-10-25 Thread Shawn Willden
On Wednesday 25 October 2006 09:52, Jesse Stay wrote: > In relation to OSS, perhaps this new Scouting merit badge could serve > as an opportunity to educate Scouts about OSS and licensing/IP > surrounding the various OSS licenses. Were this an actual merit badge, I'd sign up as a counselor specifi

Re: [Ldsoss] Boy Scouts get a "Respect Copyrights" activity badge

2006-10-25 Thread Shawn Willden
With apologies to Manfred, I have to clarify a couple of things here :-) Note that IANAL, but I have read the law and I have been following these issues closely for years. On Wednesday 25 October 2006 07:01, Steven H. McCown wrote: > On Tuesday, October 24, 2006 7:49 AM Jesse Stay wrote: > Fair

Re: [Ldsoss] Boy Scouts get a "Respect Copyrights" activity badge

2006-10-24 Thread Shawn Willden
On Tuesday 24 October 2006 07:20, Manfred Riem wrote: > While it is interesting to debate this I don't think this forum was meant > for this. If we are talking about furthering Open Source among LDS > developers I think we need to respect the charter of this mailinglist. So > please take this offl

Re: [Ldsoss] Boy Scouts get a "Respect Copyrights" activity badge

2006-10-24 Thread Shawn Willden
On Tuesday 24 October 2006 05:38, Steven McCown wrote: > Even if you think that it *should* be okay to illegally download music and > videos, at the moment it is not. At this moment it's also illegal to watch legally-purchased DVDs on Linux. Or to rip them and store them on a MythTV video jukebo