Re: [Leaf-devel] New Development Platform?

2001-06-15 Thread Pim van Riezen
On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, David Douthitt wrote: Jack Coates wrote: [speaking of Portage, a version of the BSD ports tree for Linux] That would rock, speaking as one who's been bitten by many an rpm-related problem... Does picoBSD have anything like that? Could be a good place to raid. I

Re: [Leaf-devel] [ leaf-Patches-432947 ] Resource monitor top

2001-06-15 Thread Mike Noyes
Everyone, Who would like to evaluate this package? [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2001-06-13 17:16 -0700 Patches item #432947, was updated on 2001-06-13 17:16 You can respond by visiting: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=313751aid=432947group_id =13751 Category: None Group: None Status:

Re: [Leaf-devel] Suggestion for improvement

2001-06-15 Thread Pim van Riezen
On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, David Douthitt wrote: Mike Sensney wrote: At 12:26 PM 06/14/2001 -0500, David Douthitt wrote Windows users who don't know Linux/ipchains should just skip installing a LEAF firewall since it will add no protection? Well, that will simplify things a lot for the new

Re: [Leaf-devel] Apparent Directions

2001-06-15 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
Also, I'm generally interested in 'really thin' servers. The first will probably be a BIND server, which I'd also like to see install straight from the CD. Charles Steinkuehler Hi Charles ! What are the reasons which make you choose Bind over tinydns if you are looking for a really

RE: [Leaf-devel] Suggestion for improvement

2001-06-15 Thread Luis.F.Correia
Take a look at Cisco I'd say. I never have to compile IOS from source, but they're pretty responsible in reporting security issues. Provided you'll pay for the fixes. They do NOT offer nothing for free... but they never said that either... ___

RE: [Leaf-devel] Suggestion for improvement

2001-06-15 Thread Pim van Riezen
On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Luis.F.Correia wrote: Take a look at Cisco I'd say. I never have to compile IOS from source, but they're pretty responsible in reporting security issues. Provided you'll pay for the fixes. They do NOT offer nothing for free... but they never said that either... True.

Re: [Leaf-devel] Suggestion for improvement

2001-06-15 Thread David Douthitt
David Douthitt wrote: Charles Steinkuehler wrote: Hey! What's with this VI stuff...it's emacs all the way! just kidding ;-) I love Emacs too - that's the problem. I got spoiled using real Emacs on a HP Apollo for a while - never left Emacs, even though X was available. I forgot

Re: [Leaf-devel] Suggestion for improvement

2001-06-15 Thread David Douthitt
Pim van Riezen wrote: On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, David Douthitt wrote: For me personally, my aim is not to build black box appliances that need no maintenance, but rather to build network appliances that don't carry Unix baggage unless if there's no alternatives. That's if you consider UNIX

[Leaf-devel] Scenarios

2001-06-15 Thread David Douthitt
[Pim had written:] Think about it, a 500MB IDE harddrive to install FreeBSD, OpenBSD, Debian Linux or whatever else on costs close to nothing. If I wanted a Unix machine to do that task, I'd go and build one and wouldn't bother with things like LRP. As a 'consumer', I go for LRP because

[Leaf-devel] New Project

2001-06-15 Thread David Douthitt
I've started work on a setup.lrp, which will use dialog (which requires libm and ncurses) to provide a simple setup script for experts and novices alike. It is also flexible enough to be used for new environments and new configurations such as seawall or the EigerStein scripts. It works a bit

RE: OT [Leaf-devel] linuxrouter.org draft?

2001-06-15 Thread Mike Noyes
Jack Coates, 2001-06-15 08:34 -0700 you're on Exchange 5.5 too. I did some quick searching but couldn't find any good reason for the problem. Will keep looking. Jack, Could this be related to the following support request I just opened? ML user messages not delivered

Re: [Leaf-devel] Suggestion for improvement

2001-06-15 Thread David Douthitt
Mike Sensney wrote: A LEAF box should be able to check for updates and inform its administrator that updates are needed. This is a great idea, and one I like. However, there are several things that would be needed before something like this could be truly useful: * A centralized package

Re: [Leaf-devel] New Project

2001-06-15 Thread Jonathan French
A new user comes along (with or without UNIX/network tech), boots with two disks (yes two), and then goes through this initial setup step by step, with a boot disk to be configured in hand. Once this is all done, then the disk is backed up to another, the configuration saved, and the user

Re: [Leaf-devel] Suggestion for improvement

2001-06-15 Thread Mike Noyes
Mike Sensney, 2001-06-15 08:35 -0700 At 06:31 AM 06/15/2001 -0700, Mike Noyes wrote David Douthitt, 2001-06-15 07:45 -0500 Mike Sensney wrote: Still, a point well taken. It probably would be wise to institute an advisory list for package updates and security issues. A very good idea -

Re: [Leaf-devel] New Project

2001-06-15 Thread Scott C. Best
David: This, now, is a great idea. Go fer it. Suggestion: A new user comes along (with or without UNIX/network tech), boots with two disks (yes two), and then goes through this initial setup step by step, with a boot disk to be configured in hand. Once this is all done, then

RE: OT [Leaf-devel] Mail Attachments isse

2001-06-15 Thread Steven Peck
I'll do some looking next week through technet. It may be a setting specific to exchange. It happens on lists ONCE in a while. Certainly not every message. And yes, I am using Exchange5.5 and Outlook2000 at home for now. Experiance with it pays my rent. It's not just from you that it

RE: [Leaf-devel] Suggestion for improvement

2001-06-15 Thread Steven Peck
A LEAF box should be able to check for updates and inform its administrator that updates are needed. - I don't necessarily agree with this. Part of the appeal of a base config'd system for me is that even if it is hacked, there arn't many tools to use.

Re: [Leaf-devel] Suggestion for improvement

2001-06-15 Thread Mike Sensney
Gee. And I was just thinking of simple notification, then letting the admin do the work. :-) At 10:54 AM 06/15/2001 -0500, David Douthitt wrote Mike Sensney wrote: A LEAF box should be able to check for updates and inform its administrator that updates are needed. This is a great idea,

Re: [Leaf-devel] Suggestion for improvement

2001-06-15 Thread Mike Sensney
At 09:53 AM 06/15/2001 -0700, Mike Noyes wrote Mike Sensney, 2001-06-15 08:35 -0700 At 06:31 AM 06/15/2001 -0700, Mike Noyes wrote David Douthitt, 2001-06-15 07:45 -0500 Mike Sensney wrote: Still, a point well taken. It probably would be wise to institute an advisory list for package updates

RE: [Leaf-devel] Scenarios

2001-06-15 Thread Steven Peck
These are great senarios. Add them to your Oxygen usage page. :) But, we also have people who need to 'get something up now!', have more than 3 systems and don't want to pay for the per user sygate license and have read on the dangers of unprotected Windows ICS or use a newer more expensive

RE: [Leaf-devel] Suggestion for improvement

2001-06-15 Thread Mike Sensney
At 11:13 AM 06/15/2001 -0700, Steven Peck wrote A LEAF box should be able to check for updates and inform its administrator that updates are needed. - I don't necessarily agree with this. Part of the appeal of a base config'd system for me is that even if

Re: [Leaf-devel] Distribution Question

2001-06-15 Thread David Douthitt
Steven Peck wrote: What are the posibilities of doing a custom pre configured build of Oxygen ala Eigerstein series? I haven't had the time to look at Oxygen at all, so I don't know if the single disk with preloaded modules and a firewall are posible, much less space for

[Leaf-devel] DachStein for pppoe ?

2001-06-15 Thread Etienne Charlier
Hi, I wanted to have a try to the Dachstein pre-release ( 2001/05/27 ) butI didn't found any trace of pppoe support Does someone work on this ?? Have a nice WE Etienne Charlier