Re: [Leaf-devel] File Systems (was: CVS structure)

2001-04-22 Thread George Metz
On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Mike Noyes wrote: > So if FAT+Minix support is approximately 30K, there is no difference in > size. What potential problems are caused by using ext2 on > floppies/ramdisks? Do vfat formatted floppies have a greater amount of > writable area than ext2 formatted ones? Does Linu

Re: [Leaf-devel] File Systems (was: CVS structure)

2001-04-22 Thread Mike Noyes
George Metz, 2001-04-21 22:46 -0400 >On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Mike Noyes wrote: > > > So if FAT+Minix support is approximately 30K, there is no difference > > in size. What potential problems are caused by using ext2 on > > floppies/ramdisks? Do vfat formatted floppies have a greater amount of > > wri

Re: [Leaf-devel] File Systems (was: CVS structure)

2001-04-21 Thread George Metz
On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I think the concept is to raise the bar by putting vfat into the > kernel. If vfat doesn't depend on the msdos code, then omit msdos > to reduce size and risk of manipulating vfat filenames as msdos > filenames (which can strand LFN data in the FAT).

Re: [Leaf-devel] File Systems (was: CVS structure)

2001-04-21 Thread jdnewmil
On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, George Metz wrote: > On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Mike Noyes wrote: > > > Jack Coates, 2001-04-21 16:08 -0700 > > >I just hunted through my module archives and I've never built it as a > > >module... > > > > > >I also did a google search, but the only ones I turned up in reasonable

Re: [Leaf-devel] File Systems (was: CVS structure)

2001-04-21 Thread Mike Noyes
George Metz, 2001-04-21 21:34 -0400 >On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Mike Noyes wrote: > > That's huge. How big is minix? We can subtract the minix size from the > > ext2 total. Is that correct, or am I out in left field still? > >Not sure what you mean. If you mean from kernel size for the total size >chang

Re: [Leaf-devel] File Systems (was: CVS structure)

2001-04-21 Thread George Metz
On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Mike Noyes wrote: > Jack Coates, 2001-04-21 16:08 -0700 > >I just hunted through my module archives and I've never built it as a > >module... > > > >I also did a google search, but the only ones I turned up in reasonable > >timeframe were compiled for NetBSD. Those are 51K (!

Re: [Leaf-devel] File Systems (was: CVS structure)

2001-04-21 Thread Mike Noyes
Jack Coates, 2001-04-21 16:08 -0700 >I just hunted through my module archives and I've never built it as a >module... > >I also did a google search, but the only ones I turned up in reasonable >timeframe were compiled for NetBSD. Those are 51K (!). Jack, That's huge. How big is minix? We can subt

Re: [Leaf-devel] File Systems (was: CVS structure)

2001-04-21 Thread Jack Coates
I just hunted through my module archives and I've never built it as a module... I also did a google search, but the only ones I turned up in reasonable timeframe were compiled for NetBSD. Those are 51K (!). -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: It's what's for dinner! On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Mike Noyes wro

Re: [Leaf-devel] File Systems

2001-04-21 Thread Mike Noyes
[EMAIL PROTECTED], 2001-04-21 12:51 -0700 >On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Mike Noyes wrote: > > You have a better grasp of the details than I do. :) > > If I have this right, cramfs isn't flexible enough for our needs. That > > means that Midori isn't useful for a base, and we're back to vfat or > > minix f

Re: [Leaf-devel] File Systems (was: CVS structure)

2001-04-21 Thread jdnewmil
On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Mike Noyes wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2001-04-20 18:03 -0700 > >On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Mike Noyes wrote: > > > This still doesn't explain why Debian is > > > trying to do the following for their boot floppies. > > > > > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot-0102/msg00435.html

Re: [Leaf-devel] File Systems (was: CVS structure)

2001-04-21 Thread Mike Noyes
Jack Coates, 2001-04-21 08:31 -0700 >ext2fs would be handy, but it makes things harder on the Windows users. >I think vfat is the best thing to do. I use vfat in my kernel -- it's >15K in 2.2, 16K in 2.4. UPX would turn that into .003 bytes, right :-) Jack, It may make things a tad harder, but I

Re: [Leaf-devel] File Systems (was: CVS structure)

2001-04-21 Thread Jack Coates
ext2fs would be handy, but it makes things harder on the Windows users. I think vfat is the best thing to do. I use vfat in my kernel -- it's 15K in 2.2, 16K in 2.4. UPX would turn that into .003 bytes, right :-) -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: It's what's for dinner! On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Mike Noy

Re: [Leaf-devel] File Systems (was: CVS structure)

2001-04-21 Thread Mike Noyes
[EMAIL PROTECTED], 2001-04-20 18:03 -0700 >On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Mike Noyes wrote: > > This still doesn't explain why Debian is > > trying to do the following for their boot floppies. > > > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot-0102/msg00435.html > > ~ Build in crams and ramfs. We're going to boot