tional
processes were too dysfunctional to satisfy their needs in any sort of
timely fashion. So it was the growing awareness of that disregard of
the existing recommendations which started this bandwagon rolling.
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see those responses.
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In Pennsylvania USA on 2011-10-05/06
http://futureofutc.org/
In London UK on 2011-11-03/04
http://royalsociety.org/events/UTC-for-21st-century/
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On 2011 Jul 9, at 18:04, Steve Allen wrote:
> In Pennsylvania USA on 2011-10-05/06
> http://futureofutc.org/
>
> In London UK on 2011-11-03/04
> http://royalsociety.org/events/UTC-for-21st-century/
In the case of the 2003 Colloquium on UTC in Torino there were 39
participants,
Alice (she was so much surprised,
that for the moment she quite forgot how to speak good English)
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On Mon 2011-08-01T16:12:31 -0700, Steve Allen hath writ:
> The most recent issue of Metrologia has appeared, entirely on time.
> http://iopscience.iop.org/0026-1394/48/4
Upon inspection it is evident that the only article which mentions
POSIX time and application software is the one by Seid
cast time scale and the civil time
scale so that each one can adopt rules best suited for its purposes.
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in consideration of and
citing the usage of that term by the CGPM.
This bit of history is strangely commensurate with Terry Quinn's
suggestion in the most recent issue of Metrologia that the ITU-R
should relinquish authority of UTC to the CGPM.
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On Sun 2011-08-14T17:38:45 -0700, Steve Allen hath writ:
> The bottom line is that CCIR 536 did recommend "UTC" for use
> independent of language, but they did so in consideration of and
> citing the usage of that term by the CGPM.
In other curious timing, it was only earlie
those are very
difficult to obtain). The originals give a clearer picture of who was
trying to do what and their contemporary understanding of the issues.
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115
recommendations. Some
of those names from long ago are still evident in the recent meetings
on UTC.
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as a form of mean solar time.
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more
of the same.
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On Fri 2011-09-16T10:54:24 +, Poul-Henning Kamp hath writ:
> I can fully understand Googles workaround as a way of coping with
> leap seconds.
Unless I'm mistaken it is compliant with POSIX.
That doesn't mean it's the best way forward from the status
sort of discussion which
leaves me supposing my time would be better spent going to the
library, checking out Ayn Rand's collected work, and reading it all.
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hen to look.
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s only
a week or so of being subscribed to the tz mail list to see that
they routinely handle far more difficult scenarios than leap seconds.
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On 2011 Sep 18, at 17:20, Doug Calvert wrote:
> What is SOFA?
http://www.iausofa.org/
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has managed
the sociology of creating a civil time community which is itself
civil. I think we could learn several things from them.
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ose conventions, albeit technologically-based, but highly politically
charged conventions. The question is now whether the underlying
convention for time will have any connection to calendar days.
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th 1884 and continues
through the very documents which the CCIR published about UTC.
At the CCIR Plenary Assembly in 1978 when CCIR Rec. 460-2 were
published the supporting documentation literally rejoices at the 1975
CGPM resolution which says that UTC is mean solar time.
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is demonstrated.
The political will to conform to existing treaties and resolutions is
not evident.
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) jousts over treaty obligations or
lack thereof. The desired technical result can be accomplished simply
by (again) changing the name of the internationally approved broadcast
time scale if its characteristics are (again) changed.
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ere he says "regrettable misunderstandings, especially between
astronomers and physicists, have crept into discussions on time and
frequency."
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circular.
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universe of ICRF.
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at same may be true for the topic of this list.
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mmittees.
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a much more useful note, Daniel Gambis pointed to the survey results
http://hpiers.obspm.fr/eop-pc/questionnaire/result.php
I am surprised at the 75% for status quo.
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of UTC was in obscure documents
of the time service bureaus and the IAU.
So while interpreting the memories of old guys it matters
when the unix system decided to go to 32 bit count of seconds,
because it could not reasonably have been before 1974.
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=V6/usr/man/man2/time.2
Ritchie is not alone in that regard. A lot of the recent writeups on
the subject of UTC make assertions about past events which are not
consistent with contemporary records. A big problem for the subject
is that the agents responsible for UTC are very poor communi
focus is on getting the contributed documents into a form
suitable for publication as soon as possible. That still won't
answer the second question.
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On Fri 2011-10-14T08:39:21 -0700, Tom Van Baak hath writ:
> Yeah, I don't know how to solve the third party issue either.
The DoD way is to spend $1.e8 developing an ICD or IS
and then insist that all contractors conform.
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ABC News seems not to have read the POSIX sections about time_t, or
maybe they did read them, and write what POSIX really means instead of
what it says.
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/time-zone-database-home-lawsuit-14748312
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They have their program online
http://royalsociety.org/uploadedFiles/Royal_Society/Events/2011-11-03-UTC-programme.pdf
The chairs of futureofutc are still finalizing the edits
to the presented content.
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460 they
would have been representing the US while asserting a position
contrary to federal law. Subsequent to that the underlying notion
was encapsulated by Valve Corporation in the phrase
"the cake is a lie."
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~sla/leapsecs/nc1893wp7a.pdf
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On Mon 2011-10-31T10:13:24 -0700, Steve Allen hath writ:
> > You have a document where they actaully said "UTC leap hours" ?
>
> National Committee document 1893 from USP7A was openly published on
> the FCC website for review by US citizens. See the last page.
>
&
different Member States
for the latest survey (out of a total of 192 Member States, 55 of
which participate in the formation of UTC) - 13 being in favor of
the change, 3 being contrary.
apathy?
not wanting to be the daisy standing tall enough to be lopped off?
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locked under
http://www.itu.int/md/R07-SG07-RP-1005/en
Presumably some of the other SG7 documents explain how that draft got
advanced from WP7A through SG7 to RA without achieving consensus at
any point along the way.
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The presentations from the futureofutc meeting last month
are now available online.
http://futureofutc.org/program/
The papers and other proceedings are not yet fully reviewed.
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ration, so a leap second is just another routine change.
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http://www.nature.com/news/2011/08/full/479158a.html
"they failed to reach a consensus"
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other quotes from that article.
Arias: "we're afraid"
Lewandowski: "we're afraid"
both of which contrast with the literal quote
Whibberley: "there's no convincing evidence that anything serious would happen"
I think the article author has noted a lack
according to
http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/canada/Time+move+Canada+resists+change+atomic+timekeeping/5698405/story.html
and many other syndication points for that article
there was a Nov 8 statement from Quinn and Arias.
Can anyone point to that statement?
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On Mon 2011-11-14T22:21:09 +, Zefram hath writ:
> What do list members seriously
> imagine would be entailed by the intention to "suppress TAI"?
Irritate every user and vendor of IEEE 1588 systems in the same
fashion as the draft revision of ITU-R TF.460 does for UTC users.
-R.pdf
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On 2011 Nov 14, at 22:38, Steve Allen wrote:
> Document CCTF/09-27
>
> http://www.bipm.org/cc/CCTF/Allowed/18/CCTF_09-27_note_on_UTC-ITU-R.pdf
Initially that was document 7A/51-E regarding Question ITU-R 236/7
contributed by the BIPM to the 2007-09-04/05 meeting of ITU-R WP7A.
When r
to this 40 year
long trainwreck of incompatible system presumptions.
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civil time remains a zoo of unruly inhabitants.
The ITU-R has authority over the nature of the time scale recommended
for use in radio broadcasts. The manner in which that corresponds to
civil time is a matter left to the local authorities.
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7;re now seeing about POSIX and C time
because the standards documents are self-inconsistent in the
presence of the reality that UTC has had leap seconds.
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On Thu 2011-11-17T06:49:59 -0800, Steve Allen hath writ:
> It works like the javascript on this page
> http://www.ucolick.org/~sla/leapsecs/epochtime.html
> which risks restarting some totally pedantic and legalistic
> arguments of the sort we're now seeing about POSIX and C t
he discussions I've found on the net imply that pretty much nobody
uses that feature. Some such systems systems seem not to bother
because they have been running since before there was a GMT offset
notion, so they actually keep local time.
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CDROM version at
http://www.univelt.com/book=3043
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alone was expected to be $80.
This should become clearer, but not until after the holiday.
Watch for updates.
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On Thu 2011-11-24T09:53:50 -0800, Steve Allen hath writ:
> Watch for updates.
The price for the CDROM version is now updated.
http://www.univelt.com/Science.html
with the hardcover (and CDROM) version
http://www.univelt.com/book=3042
and the CDROM version
http://www.univelt.com/book=3043
This
Terrestrial Time, Atomic Time) are irrelevant, and the difference
between mean solar time and the more uniform time scales can be
predicted well enough for its indicators.
As Rob mentioned, read the preprint at futureofutc.org
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as justification
to use the abbreviation UTC for all languages).
So sometimes the delegates to the Plenary Assembly do more than just
assent, and 460 in particular shows examples of this.
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"intervention" has been
used as an action that the World Radio Conference might perform.
What that means is unclear in this inscrutably Byzantine process.
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s in documents which will become
lost to history.
I suspect that there are domains where such an agency is necessary,
but I remain mystified about how exactly anyone is supposed to
construct a robust operational system based on such documents.
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The CDROM version of the proceedings of the futureofutc.org meeting
Decoupling Civil Timekeeping from Earth Rotation
is now shipping from Univelt.
http://www.univelt.com/book=3043
Preprints (which lack the indexing features) remain online.
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0 years ago. The draft proposal before the ITU-R is about
disconnecting the calendar from the sun.
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that the reporters are not getting.
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g to Geneva and
pulling them out of the ITU-R library.
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will next be rewritten
in order to clarify what means what.
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those is the very recent contribution #41 from USA
http://www.itu.int/md/R12-RA12-C/en
"The future of the UTC Timescale"
8 days and counting down…
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http://www.nzz.ch/nachrichten/hintergrund/wissenschaft/geht_es_der_schaltsekunde_an_den_kragen_1.14266285.html
says that Switzerland abstains from the TF.460 vote
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hat my
plots just use C04 from Daniel Gambis and friends at the obspm.fr
bureau of IERS.
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On Wed 2012-01-11T12:24:19 -0700, Warner Losh hath writ:
> If I have the raw data, I can redo the graphs...
Morrison and Stephenson is attached
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column is Besselian (I think) astronomical year.
Second column is Delta T in seconds, i.e. diff of UT (or UT1) and TT (or ET)
Third numeric column (when it exists) is their uncertainty in seconds.
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ld think about the long-term implications of this wording".
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ITU-R has a place for news releases. This is the one relevant here
http://www.itu.int/net/newsroom/wrc/2012/reports/atomic_time.aspx
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olume
around 20 years ago, but at that point the broadcasters pointed to
particular metrics for volume by which there was no difference.
I have no idea when ITU-R started work on BS.1770, but it was getting
an international agreement on that which enabled the rest of this story.
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As indicated earlier, ISO Technical Committee 37 produced a statement
about changing the terminology of UTC. Copies are posted at
http://www.ucolick.org/~sla/leapsecs/ISOTC37toITURA.pdf
and also on the futureofutc.org website.
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posals to the level of international
regulations. This is much as in 1970 when they also disregarded
calls from international scientific organizations.
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ve all been
written and operated in the presence of leap seconds. The absence of
leap seconds could compromise the infrastructure that supports GPS.
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eck.
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the next 1000 years, and now they are on the verge
of disavowing their achievement.
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Univers
eted as
> "what the duly appointed authority (then the RGO, now the NPL) declares to
> be the official time".
Duly appointed authority seems to think leap seconds are important
for official time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heeG4ULJLSI
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effort will be expended.
There's no getting around that. This is not going to be easy.
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t+gps.html
How much simplification is necessary before an ITU voting member
can grok that?
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Unive
oneinfo files,
for that deserves to be mentioned there also)
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d from UTC, GPS and other broadcast timescales, so
> availability is fine.
Indications have been that BIPM will disagree violently with that
statement.
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ture, at least based on the experience of the
folks who maintain the tz database.
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Univ
PI for that sort of coordination
can be constructed. It may be that a specific API could handle
such things as civil time zone resets and serve as a good example
for more complex scenarios.
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On Mon 2012-01-23T12:40:20 -0500, Keith Winstein hath writ:
> Steve Allen has opted for my #2 ("Correctly account for past leap
> seconds, and ignore yet-to-be-disseminated future leap seconds when
> converting EST/EDT/UTC-specified moments into a timestamp").
I assert th
andling of a leap second.
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On Wed 2012-01-25T18:48:28 +, Poul-Henning Kamp hath writ:
> I really don't think the name is as important as the semantics.
Stop the presses! We should forward this to ITU-R SG 7 immediately!
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Rob Seaman found this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-2UqYW9SEs
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Based on what the reporters for Zeit could glean, the change in the
position of Germany remains a mystery.
http://www.zeit.de/2012/05/Schaltsekunde
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to WP7A.
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ttp://www.ponyisland.org/index.php?src=forum&sub=replies&forum=40&topic=2894434
o teh horrorz, teh horrorz
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120123-TD-0080/en
with title "Proposed agenda item on UTC"
It will be interesting to see just how much direction the WRC is going
to put into the ongoing process, but we may have to wait until all
these proceedings reach libraries before we know that.
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stories about leap seconds.
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implementation does not result in
widespread calls for the abolishment of leap day.
It's just a matter of which representation is palatable.
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Also the root of the bug which bricked Microsoft Zune media players
for the entire day of 2008-12-31. It's all in the representation.
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On Fri 2012-02-24T19:14:08 +, Poul-Henning Kamp hath writ:
> In message <20120224164132.ga17...@ucolick.org>, Steve Allen writes:
> >Today is the second sixth day before the end of
> >February, so today is leap day. I expect it is hard to find any
> >softwa
iginal printing,
"biffextile").
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as a four-digit
group (-2359). The abbreviation UTC shall be used in all
languages.
Note with great amusement that radio regulation 2.5 defines the
concept of UTC date using terminology directly derived from the
rotation of the earth. (What other option is there?)
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nd "new UTC", but it also
makes "new UTC" synonymous with "IAT" and "A.1", and to
the relevant precision all of them interchanged with "GMT".
There is also the interesting assertion that in the US the NBS was
responsible for frequency and USNO was res
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