Seems that us being linked with bringing back Gradel is more than just media
speculation.
I know we need a winger but I have really mixed feelings about this. In my view
in one of the biggest games in our long history Gradel lost the plot and almost
cost us promotion. Add to that his celebr
Good to see Max starting for Ivory Coast v England. Top player for us - apart
from his sending off ( though with hindsight that made the result even better)
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Phill,
With you on this one.
On Tuesday, 17 December 2013, 12:41, Phill Shields
wrote:
Seems that us being linked with bringing back Gradel is more than just media
speculation.
I know we need a winger but I have really mixed feelings about this. In my view
in one of the biggest game
uld be
the best option for me.
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> Seems that us being linked with bringing back Gradel is more than just media
> speculation.
If it is more than media speculation is it not just an agent trick for an
improved contract?
He is highly thought of at St Etienne who are French First Division and its
World Cup season, why would h
Difficult one for me this, Max, along with Beckford, is my favourite player
post first relegation, and IF he can play like he did it would be a real coup.
Having said that he did leave us (although it was to better himself and his
career, albeit the timing was awful) Add to that the fact that he
hind this and I personally am
not bothered about having him back.
MOT
> Subject: Re: [LU] Max Gradel
> To: phillshie...@hotmail.com; leedslist@gn.apc.org
> From: p...@cundell.com
> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 12:53:21 +
>
> > Seems that us being linked with bringing back
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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 12:41:46
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Subject: [LU] Max Gradel
Seems that us being linked with bringing back Gradel is more than just media
speculation.
I know we need a winger but I have re
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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 13:05:48
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Subject: Re: [LU] Max Gradel
You may be right about his agent being behind this Paul. Apparently his
contract with St Etienne expires in 2015 so the timing would fit with your
assessment.
Disagree entirely. He fucked off Bates and the selling club we were. He needs
to go where the money is for his family and I would much rather our 'stars' go
abroad than, say, to scum (like Smith - who many Unfathomably still laud). He
earned promotion with his performances and was entitled to ce
>>say, to scum (like Smith - who many Unfathomably still laud).<<
It's pretty fathomable if you look at the facts at the time.
M
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Good job Thirkers aint here or we'd be re-signing some outlandish Welsh
bloke who played alongside Big John in the 50s :-)
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Facts as stated by whom? I see opinion and statements from people with an
interest - I don't see objective facts. The only objective fact is we went down
and he decided to sign for them. Our fans were already at a low ebb and
definitely did not need that.
You think he saved the club? Proposter
OK, run through the alternatives to selling Smith to the only club that
tabled an offer that got him off the payroll and helped bail out the sinking
ship with £7m?
M
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ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com writes:
Facts as stated by whom?
Where is this info from? Lorimer? Same guy who said Howson had to go, Grayson
had to go etc etc.
I just don't buy it - sorry but other teams were in for him. The ship was sunk
anyway and if he was such a hero he would have deferred wages.
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> On 17 Dec 2013, at 21:33, markbu.
It's what happened at the time.
No other teams were in for him with £7m. No other teams were in for him
without expecting us to contribute to his wages. It was not his decision to
go. The club sold him. He was entitled to a loyalty bonus, which he waived.
Do you seriously expect professiona
Harold Williams?
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Subject: Re: [LU] Max Gradel
Good job Thirkers aint here or we'd be re-signing some outlandish Welsh
I'm not a millionaire but yes I would if I professed to love my employer. It's
not a normal job. Mark, you don't know anything about the ins and outs of the
deal. You only know what people with an interest have said in the press.
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> On 17 Dec 2013, at 21:41, markbu...@aol.com
But there was no option for Smith to stay. ManU offered £7m for him. Under
what circumstances would the management of a failing business have refused
that?
What Smith said was irrelevant. He had no option to stay, even playing for
nothing.
I have a pretty good idea about the deal. What wa
No you don't have any idea about the deal - only what you have read publicised
by people with an interest in it. Anyway, cba, even I find this boring and I'm
sure other listers do.
There's no point in arguing - neither of us will change our minds. I will say
this though, you were a supporter o
Oi you two, this is not good enough, neither of you have slagged off me and
Rick yet. Call this a quality debate? Minnows
Betty
PS surely it was Smith's agent who called the shots, Ridsdale wouldn't have
recognised Smith if he'd bumped into him in Sainsburys. (They do have
Sainsburys in L
Ian, why do you assume I simply get information from reading the papers?
How do you know I don't have better sources?
I remain a supporter of developing the stadium. It's pretty grim in many
places compared to state-of-the-art premiership grounds. Don't you think we
shouldn't have a decent
Betty, they do have Sainsburys in Leeds - unfortunately Ridsdale was shopping
in Waitrose with a Lidl credit card :-)
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On 17 Dec 2013, at 19:17, j...@boocock.net wrote:
> Oi you two, this is not good enough, neither of you have slagged off me and
> Rick yet. Call this a qual
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Subject: Re: [LU] Max Gradel
You may be right about his agent being behind this Paul. Apparently his
contract with St Etienne expires in
2015 so the timing would fit with your assessment. This time it feels to have
more legs about it for me
though.
As regards swapping French top tier wit
I don't think that the stadium should be a place for car salesman or Jehovah's
Witness conferences, as per Bates and his 'diversified income stream' shit.
My Bates comment is completely accurate - you supported most of the projects he
ran whilst sucking money out of the football club. You can't
Its a long time ago and I don't remember all the details, but if I'm not
mistaken that logic -- which would be spot on in most contexts -- did not apply
at the time because all of the player contracts were hocked. In other words,
that 7 million quid did nothing for us. It reduced a mountainous
I think, in Smith's specific case - he was developed, not bought so no 3rd
party 'owned' him or his registration as they did with Dacourt, for example.
We may have exaggerated the book value of players (Kewell for example - his
transfer fee went to his arsehole of an agent, anyway!) but that wa
>>I don't think that the stadium should be a place for car salesman or
Jehovah's Witness conferences, as per Bates and his 'diversified income stream'
shit.<<
OK, so just leave that massive bricks-and-mortar asset standing unused for
340 days of the year. Who cares if car dealers or crazy
I really cba getting into this with you any further. We disagree, and I don't
want to get into a flame war with you.
It's boring - like you.
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> On 18 Dec 2013, at 23:33, markbu...@aol.com wrote:
>
> >>I don't think that the stadium should be a place for car salesman or
> >
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>
> I really cba getting into this with you any further. We disagree, and I don't
> want to get into a flame war with you.
>
> It's boring - like you.
>
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> > On 18 Dec 2013, at 23:33, markbu...@aol.com wrote
ax Gradel in this thread? I keep
> clicking on it only to find an endlessly boring argument.
> Thanks
> Jeremy
>
>> From: ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com
>> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 23:37:16 +0800
>> To: markbu...@aol.com
>> CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org
>> Subject:
on loan YES, purchase NO.
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Can
What I was remembering was that the "hocking" happened in credit document
covenants that covered ALL players, not just ones purchased. Like I said,
though, it was a long time ago and I could very easily be wrong.
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