Re: time for a question or two......

2014-05-12 Thread Tim Krause
That gear is what got me more interested in what's happening on that machine! - Original Message - From: 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 3:54 PM Subject: Re: time for a question or two.. ti

Re: time for a question or two......

2014-05-12 Thread 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
tim...thanks for the responses...you always make good points...and i think i have learned a lot more from this group of "weekend warriors" then i have given back...so i'll say thanks to all!...i'll have to post additional photos in the morning though...not currently in the shop...but i will poin

RE: legacy design kit

2014-05-12 Thread Bill Bulkeley
While we’re talking design kit if someone can make a profile i can print of all the combination rope and barley bits both separate and when they are combined i would like that please so i can make my own template for them legacy never did do those ones . With what tim has posted for me any one

Re: legacy design kit

2014-05-12 Thread Tim Krause
Hi All, I was just going to draft a rotary table graph that will fit on a 8-1/2" x 11 sheet of paper in Legacy's style. Any one interested? If I recall, there was nothing unique or interesting about the full size table leg designing paper. Any graph paper would work. -Tim - Original

Re: legacy design kit

2014-05-12 Thread Tim Krause
Bill's good to go then. -Tim - Original Message - From: Bill Bulkeley To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 3:16 PM Subject: RE: legacy design kit No Tim just the reference pages with the bit profiles and numbers on it i already own all

RE: legacy design kit

2014-05-12 Thread Bill Bulkeley
There are programs on line too that you can use to print just about any graph paper you need Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of mwfos...@earthlink.net Sent: Tuesday, 13 May 2014 6:35 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mil

Re: time for a question or two......

2014-05-12 Thread Tim Krause
Joe, Regarding the index photo: I've seen that mechanism on a couple machines. Can you take a picture of the whole. I've thought of implementing something like this in the legacy but on the gear side. Inborn the mech needs to be small so you don't end up hitting it with it with a router bi

RE: legacy design kit

2014-05-12 Thread Bill Bulkeley
No Tim just the reference pages with the bit profiles and numbers on it i already own all the rest Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Tuesday, 13 May 2014 6:09 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroup

Re: time for a question or two......

2014-05-12 Thread Tim Krause
Joe, I think the number of guys that have made their own bits could be counted on one hand and those that know a guy that could make a bit on two hands, and those that have actually done it back on one hand again! You're in a different league than the majority of the players, but that's not a

Re: time for a question or two......

2014-05-12 Thread 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
tim...between the standard gears, the .25X set, the .50X set and the 2X set just about all pitches anyone would want are covered( a total of 28...with 3 duplications)...we even played with mixing gears from different sets, but the difference in pitches is negligible...again, i'll assume most of

Re: time for a question or two......

2014-05-12 Thread Tim Krause
Your not going to be able to make up pitches that you don't have the physical gear combinations. I was talking strictly about number of starts. I think Mike's version covers any number of starts like my version. My version just takes too long to type for me at this point. I have to go diggin

Re: time for a question or two......

2014-05-12 Thread Tim Krause
You forgot the attachment - Original Message - From: 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 1:52 PM Subject: Re: time for a question or two.. this is a photo of the headstock on our killinger twis

Re: time for a question or two......

2014-05-12 Thread 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
thanks for the reply tim...yes, i did see mikes video on crank handle indexing...interesting and certainly can spped up a job, especially if you are doing multiples...but i'll assume that it works only on certain pitches that are coinciding with the lead screw dimensions and threads...can a 4

Re: time for a question or two......

2014-05-12 Thread 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
this is a photo of the headstock on our killinger twist lathe...the "arm" has a spring loaded pin, tapered slightly on the end...the arm revolves around a post that projects from the indexing plate, which is attached to the spider gear behind it...the indexing plate originally came with 24 hole

Re: time for a question or two......

2014-05-12 Thread Tim Krause
If the work is a 1, 2, or 4 start, the lazy mans version is to notice the starting point of the lead screw and work. Open the split nut and return the carriage to this position. Now open the cam clamp and rotate the work 180 degrees or 90 degrees. This all assumes you are using the drive hubs

Re: legacy design kit

2014-05-12 Thread mwfoscue
Mike,Yes, I am interested in getting a set of the Magnate Legacy Ornamental Mill router bit templates.I'm not in a hurry - so give The Group a  bit of time to reply back to you on this.  I assume you have a set of the "Originals"?  I have a couple sheets of the rectangular grid - unfortunately, non

Re: legacy design kit

2014-05-12 Thread Tim
HI Mike, I had to delete your post. I agreed with Tracy Anderson that I would not allow sharing this file in the group. Tracy said he would send the file to anyone that contacted him at Legacy. As to your offer to make the templates, I don't think that is out of line since the product is no

Re: time for a question or two......

2014-05-12 Thread 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
thanks for the reply bill...the issue i might see is what if the bit diameter does not work with the measurements of the lead screw?...i.e. the four revolutions per inch...when we do twist work, we calculate the number of cuts and then choose a bit that will get us the best looking reed or flut

RE: time for a question or two......

2014-05-12 Thread CURTIS GEORGE
Hello Joe and Bill I agree with you on this Bill. But Mike Pung also has a way on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjcFpO51upw His method has worked well for ME ever since he frist posted it. Now back to work. more latter. C.A.G. - Original Message - From: Bill Bulkeley To: le

RE: time for a question or two......

2014-05-12 Thread Bill Bulkeley
Indexing to the next cut is usually done by undoing the split nut and sliding the saddle along and reengaging the split nut .the distance moved is usually the same as the dia of the router bit And the pitch on multiple spirals is in multiples of the router bit Say a 2 inch barley bit a single

Re: 1200ex for sale

2014-05-12 Thread Don Butler
Mac, You are s rright. I took it off because it must be removed to change the gear ratios and I did it often, so it wound up underneath. Best regards On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 11:11 AM, wrote: > Don, > > Regarding comment on the first photo: "Router and junk underneath not > included" > > I

Re: 1200ex for sale

2014-05-12 Thread mwfoscue
Don,Regarding comment on the first photo: "Router and junk underneath not included"I believe that you do have one item there that should be included (and mounted back on the Mill). There is a red sheet metal piece visible under the mill that is the other "half" of the gear train protection/safety c

time for a question or two......

2014-05-12 Thread 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
beginning to get acquainted with my machine and right away have a problem understanding something...when doing spiral work, how do you index to the next cut when doing multiple cuts?...it seems to me you have to drop the gears down, index to the next cut and then bring the gears back up...is th

RE: legacy design kit

2014-05-12 Thread Bill Bulkeley
Thanks curt Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of CURTIS GEORGE Sent: Monday, 12 May 2014 5:54 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: legacy design kit Hello and Good morning. I own the des

Re: legacy design kit

2014-05-12 Thread CURTIS GEORGE
Hello and Good morning. I own the design kit, I will see if I can scan those pages for you Bill. I too was not aware of the model number change, You know the last time I ordered some bits, Magnate sent my an CD of there catalog Ive not looked at it, Perhaps there is something on it that could e

RE: legacy design kit

2014-05-12 Thread Bill Bulkeley
To tell you the truth mac i wasn’t aware they had changed to bit numbers Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of mwfos...@earthlink.net Sent: Monday, 12 May 2014 3:47 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.co