JL:
It's the expertise part that's missing. I remember all the problems people
had when v.7 was first released and they tried to keep both 6 7 on their
systems. With 7,000 records in my database and 40 years of research, I'm
really hesitant to start playing around with things. I already have
I myself am not a rocket scientist, so take heart. People were
installing 7 in their 6 directories and all that kind of stuff. There
was a mix up with where Legacy Charting was. I remember.
Installing Legacy 6 is like installing any other software. You just do
it. Install Legacy 6 in a
I tend to be as accurate as possible with respect to things like
township, city, district or whatever and with respect to borderchanges;
I then use the 'short form' placename (which I can activate in reports)
for a more legible variation.
e.g. have Almenum, Barradeel, Friesland, Netherlands for
I was recently persuaded by a friend to switch to Legacy, and so my only
experience of the programmes is confined to Version 7. After a month or so I
must confess, for all the reasons given previously, to now being less than
taken with it. I feel there is a very good programme in there, but
Kirsten,
I have largely left comments in written reports to others as I am not a regular
user of them. However, I have had a look at the Descendant Report produced as
an rtf and viewed in Open Office. One thing stands out and I would ask you to
clarify what you mean by Source Repetions - is
Gene Wheeler wrote:
I'm using V6 and when I start it up this evening, instead of seeing the
splash screen and then opening in the Family View with the last used
family (as I specified in Customize), it opens the splash screen then
opens up the Set Report Fonts window. When I close this
I've been working on a few time lines for my Legacy files.
Can anyone point me in a direction to determine possible issues with
copyright and infringements regarding time lines?
For instance, I'm creating a timeline for North America's Major
Natural Disasters. Most of this data can be found on
Well, I thank you so much, Linda, for helping me understand how to use the
Private button. I should have mentioned this sooner and it would have saved
me a lot of time. I appreciate your help.
Ruth
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From: Linda McCauley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
Jess,
Details of copyright law vary from country to country but broadly speaking
facts cannot be copyrighted, however the presentation can. So to reproduce
somebody else's timeline, for example, would be a breach of copyright, but to
compile one oneself by culling the dates and places from a
All I know is Legacy is still 100 times better than FTM bugs or no bugs.
Part of the problem is that Legacy had hundreds of people pressuring them to
get Version 7 out so maybe the released it too early. I am sure that with
Version 8 they will keep it very hush hush until they are really ready
Michelle - I have over 30,000 names in my Legacy database. I would love to
go to some other genealogy program that works. How difficult will it be for
me to be sure all my data transfers to the new program - huge I would say.
My anger comes from the fact that Ver. 6 worked fine. If there are
I should have been more specific - I am doing Descendent Reports from within
Publishing Center. I have 17 chapters in this report. This is what it looks
like:
Nicola married Fortunata Pagnotta.1
. Relationship to Ann Perri (paternal): 3rd Great-Grandmother.
The child from this marriage
Ron,
Minor point. Whilst copyright law does vary from country to country, both
the US and Great Britain (plus many others) are signatories to the Geneva
Accord on Copyright. This, in effect, means that US copyright has right of
law in Britain, and British copyright enjoys similar rights in
JL, thank you for what looks like a workable solution for me. I have to ask,
is my Registration Number the same as my Customer Number? Do I uninstall
Ver. 7 before I install Ver. 6? or because I'm installing Ver. 6 to another
folder, can I leave Ver. 7?
Kirsten, are you going to try this?
Ron, I agree with Dan -- you are *very* much appreciated on this list.
I find your comments thoughtful, tactful and thorough. I learn a lot
from your messages, although I rarely have a reason to post to this
list.
Thanks for all you do.
Cricket
On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 9:25 PM, Dan Bateham
Kirsten and Ruth,
Following Ruth's email I have had a new look at the Sources and also created
them using the Publication Center. I found no difference between the two ways
in which the report was produced.
I must correct my previous email, as on closer inspection it is attributing
incorrect
Ruth: You first ;-). Actually I wouldn't dare try it until my more
computer-savvy son is at hand and he's out of town for two weeks. In the
meantime, I'll respond to Ron's message this morning and see if he has any
ideas.
JL: Thanks from me too. I'll be watching for your answer to Ruth's
Ruth,
1. Marriage wording options Married someone for an unknown spouse. I
have entered a problem report on this issue. Legacy will not let you
delete the someone from the marriage wording when the spouse is unknown.
2. Blanking of the name list when you deleted an AKA. I tested this but
I
They're working on fixing reported bugs, nFS and several other things.
Thanks for using Legacy.
Sherry
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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We are changing the world of genealogy!
When replying to this message, please include all previous
Syble,
Legacy will not run from a flash drive. It needs to be installed on the hard
drive of the computer you wish to run it from.
You can save the Family Files, pictures, etc on the flash drive and access
them from there.
Thanks for using Legacy.
Sherry
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
Had you installed or uninstalled any other programs? Doing one of those
steps could have interfered with Legacy functioning properly.
You should uninstall Legacy and then download the final build of Legacy v6
from our website and reinstall that.
Versions of Legacy prior to v7 can be downloaded
Ruth,
Have you tried using the Search tab in Help? I use that all the time when I
can think of a keyword but can't find it in the index.
Thanks for using Legacy.
Sherry
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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We are changing the world of
We have an internal listing, not available to the public. I don't know of
any program that advertises their bug list!
In order to go back to Legacy v6 you first must make a gedcom in Legacy v6,
uninstall the program and then delete several files from the main Legacy
folder before reinstalling
All this stuff about Legacy 7 and its problems inevitably reminds me of
Polonius' advice to Laertes in /Hamlet:
/Be not the first by whom the new is tried.
But then, I am still using Legacy 5.
Elizabeth C
Legacy User Group guidelines:
I've been trying to preview the interview report and get the following
error:
Run-time error '339':
Component 'MSCOMCTL.OCX' or one of its dependencies not correctly
registered; a file is missing or invalid
Once I click on OK, Legacy shuts down. Is there anything I can do to fix
this?
BTW:
Ruth and JL:
This makes it sound impossible to go back except with a v6 gedcom--which
would mean losing 3 months' worth of work. Very discouraging.
Kirsten
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sherry/Support
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008
I've been reading some messages about problems with Gedcom in version 7 and
wondered that the concerns were. I am a new user and imported my data from
FTM via Gedcom. Everything seems to be there. Yesterday I did try to
export my entire file to WorldConnect as I have done before but was
On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 09:50:15 -0700, Sherry/Support
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I don't know of any program that advertises their bug list!
http://www.cyberspyder.com/cslnkts6.html
--
Dennis Kowallek
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www.leedna.com
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Ron:
Yes, I'm using the Descendant Report produced as an rtf but viewed in Word
2000. I most often produce a 1-generation report with sources as endnotes
and no digital images involved. With that combination I get different
results depending on whether SourceWriter was used or not--and neither
Registration number/customer number - it's that number that you paid for
to unlock the Deluxe features, whatever that's called.
Leave Version 7 where it is and forget about it. All that will stay
exactly as you leave it. What you're going to end up with is two
different versions of Legacy on
Sherry/Support wrote:
Syble,
Legacy will not run from a flash drive. It needs to be installed on the hard
drive of the computer you wish to run it from.
You can save the Family Files, pictures, etc on the flash drive and access
them from there.
Thanks for using Legacy.
Sherry
Customer
On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 09:50:15 -0700, Sherry/Support
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In order to go back to Legacy v6 you first must make a gedcom in Legacy v6,
uninstall the program and then delete several files from the main Legacy
folder before reinstalling Legacy v7. Then import the gedcom into Legacy
Linda:
If you're referring to the GEDCOM discussions in the Legacy Bugs thread, I
think it's a different issue. Because of problems in producing certain
reports, I mentioned that I felt a general lack of confidence in my
database and was apprehensive about using it to overwrite my existing file
Bernard,
See on-line technical help - URL below, or under tab Legacy Homesolution by
Error Number, or visit http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/helpDLL-OCXerrors.asp
Ron Ferguson
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It doesn't matter whether other programs make their bug lists available to
the public or not and, by the way, we're you're customers (the people who
pay your salary), not the general public. Are you ashamed you let us see
the list of bugs?
- Original Message -
From: Sherry/Support
Brian,
1) I'll look for the ability to delete the word someone at a later date.
Until Ver. 7 I just manually deleted it from my .doc report. Can't do that
now, but maybe soon? please?
2) It happens all the time while I'm in the Name List.
3) Thanks for straightening me out on this one. I
I agree. Ron has been very helpful when he could. We're all in this
together.
Still, because this is a large programs and it is not practical for everyone
of us to check each part of it, it would be nice if there was a list
maintained of known bugs which we could access. It would greatly
It sounds like Sherry got her version numbers mixed up in what she
wrote. If you make a ged in v.7 then import it into v.6 that should
work. I think she's also talking about uninstalling v.7 before
installing v.6. I'm suggesting leaving v.7 the way it is and installing
v.6 in a different
Is there somewhere where we can access the current problem list. Knowing
what problems have been accepted as bugs is a lot better than stumbling on
them just when you need that particular report.
Jeff
- Original Message -
From: Brian/Support [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
Firefox is one among many other that permit access to their bug list and
where they are in resolving them.
Jeff
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From: Sherry/Support [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 12:50 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG]
Apparently not because one of the version 7 bugs involves the export of
gedcoms.
Jeff
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From: Rachel Alliston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 11:59 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs
- Original
What is the .usr file that holds the overrides for marriages? What happens
if I delete all my .usr files?
Ruth
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From: Kirsten Bowman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 12:28 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy
Bernard,
Try here:
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/helpDLL-OCXerrors.asp
Bob
Bernard Doddema wrote:
I've been trying to preview the interview report and get the following
error:
Run-time error '339':
Component 'MSCOMCTL.OCX' or one of its dependencies not correctly
registered;
I think Sherry made a mistake.
Make a Gedcom in V7, uninstall the program.., before
reinstalling Legacy v6, Then import the Gedcom into V6.
Bert
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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Tuesday 2
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The software I use at work does... only it calls them known issues .
Of course it's not exactly the same . this is a million dollar piece of
software and it does not share the information with non customers; you must be
a customer to view the list.Still, it is a way to think about it.
This discusion about putting in the region is interesting but folks remember it
may look like repetition but here in USA we have cities that have grown to be
in more than one township so you need to be sure you are placing the locations
in the correct township as well as the city. Thanks
Kirsten,
I just tried my first Descendant Report, 2 generation, RTF, opened with Word
2000. First time checked sources as footnotes. Beautiful, perfect. Second
time I checked sources as endnotes. What a mess. The notes are all mixed in
with the report, in no particular order. It didn't
I have heard of Legacy users having problems with MojoPac, Unfortunately,
because of that I can't recommend it.
I have heard of reports from users who installed Legacy on their flash drive
and it worked great - as long as it was on the same computer that the flash
drive was plugged into when
Yes, that was one of the earlier comments on this thread. All I'm
saying to the people who are interested in going back to v.6 is to try
it and see if it works. I don't personally know that there's a problem
with ged export, just going by what some-one else said. Is this a
proven fact or a
Kirsten,
It's far from impossible. Just create a gedcom in Legacy v7 and import
that gedcom into Legacy v6.
I'm sorry - I got my numbers reversed in my original message The
paragraph should read:
In order to go back to Legacy v6 you first must make a gedcom in Legacy v7,
uninstall the
Elizabeth:
Polonius is thought by many to be a talky old bore but I rather like
him--and he had a lot of good advice. Nevertheless, I think it's safe for
you to move up to Legacy6 by now.
Kirsten
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Elizabeth
Bernard Doddema wrote:
I've been trying to preview the interview report and get the following
error:
Run-time error '339':
Component 'MSCOMCTL.OCX' or one of its dependencies not correctly
registered; a file is missing or invalid
Once I click on OK, Legacy shuts down. Is there
Sally,
The next update will contain specific SourceWriter templates for all of the
Canadian censuses, including the recent release of the 1916 Western Canada
census and the 1940 National Registration File.
Thanks,
Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
Syble ...another reason to add more fields is -- example -- my brother who
lived in the next county over from a cemetery told me there isn't a cemetery
where I told him... I had only given him the township at the time... when I
gave him the section of the township and the part of the section
Sherry:
Before Gene Y. sent me the solution, even before I sent my initial
message, I had tried uninstalling and cleaning out every trace of
Legacy v6 I could find, downloaded the latest build and restored my
archive file. This did not fix the two problems. However, Gene Y.
came up with
Explain to me a bit better how it was before. I've noticed no change
*shrug* Send me screen shots to my personal account as you will get
busted.
Tim
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Michele Lewis
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008
Michelle,
Respectfully, that is such a cop-out that they were pressured to get it out.
The only pressure to get it released was the bottom line. Are you aware that
the Millenia folks has originally indicated that Legacy 7.0 would be released
last fall. Then for whatever reason, it was
Gene Y:
Thanks!! That did the trick. It also fixed the non-sticking font
settings. Thanks much!
Gene W.
==
At 06:28 AM 9/2/2008, you wrote:
Gene Wheeler wrote:
I'm using V6 and when I start it up this evening, instead of seeing
the splash screen and then opening in the
Michele,
Thanks for bringing this up. I'll ask Ken to update this.
Thanks,
Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michele
Lewis
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy bugs
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 14:51:12 -0400
On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 09:50:15 -0700, Sherry/Support
wrote:
In order to go back to Legacy v6 you first must make a gedcom in Legacy v6,
uninstall the
Moved from V. 6 to V. 7 immediately (actually did it with one of the
last BETA versions). Nothing was missing. I looked at SourceWriter
but felt my old way of writing up sources was as good - and MUCH less
wordy. Everything needed for a later researcher to find my sources is
included. So I
Reading with interest the problems people have with the software...but what I
have done is use the software so entered but have created 2 encyclopedia in
Word by surname and position in the family to handle items that do not fit
into the software program well, thereby when issuing a report
Elizabeth, I'm thinking I'd like to come to your house and bring my database
and run my reports on your Ver. 5 so I don't mess up by reinstalling Ver 6
on my 'puter :)
Ruth
- Original Message -
From: Kirsten Bowman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent:
Thanks, Geoff. I am a little OCD about keeping everything uniform :) :) :)
I redoing all my sources one at a time, slow but sure. I am not going to
wait for the converter thingie to be released. I am way too OCD for that!
:) :)
Michele
- Original Message -
From: Geoff Rasmussen
Thank you for your reply -
M
On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 9:04 PM, Elizabeth Heinzman-Denes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
The Master Genealogist. Another genealogy program which is a lot more
complicated than Legacy.
Elizabeth
Guess this is a strange question but was is TMG?
M.
there are no messages with this subject since
the SourceWriter came out.
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Michele,
No wonder I like the way it was doing the source for IGI! I have
refused to go to SourceWriter until it is right!
Keith
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 7:07 PM, Tim Rosenlof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Explain to me a bit better how it was before. I've noticed no change
*shrug* Send me screen
Although I think you would agree that open source software is *supposed* to
be a whole different animal. The code is made available so anyone can work
with it and make contributions. The one other example cited is freeware. I
have found that small-time software developers (freeware and
But it is risky to install an earlier version of any program (even in a
different directory) when a later version is still present. Registry
entries, and common files such as DLLs that are installed in places other
than the main program location (Windows/System32, etc) may get overwritten
with
Will it include the Newfoundland Censuses?
Teresa
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geoff
Rasmussen
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 2:13 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Writer for Canadian Census
Okay, you've answered my question. Legacy has so many bugs and unfinished
features that it's ashamed to provide a list. That's exactly what I thought.
So you worry more about what your competitors think than what your paying
customer think.
- Original Message -
From: Gary Templeman
I suspect that the problem with gedcoms lies not with their creation
so much ...more than likely the way the gedcoms are imported into the
intended application. That said, exporting from one legacy
application to the other should not pose a problem.. If I recall
correctly, the problem was that
I don't care if I don't see a list of the bugs - I know most of them
anyway - but I wouldn't mind an acknowledgement from management that
something bad happened going from Ver. 6 to Ver. 7 that shouldn't have
happened and that they are being worked on, not adding new features, just
correcting
Do we know if the dll's have the same names or different ones? It is
true that I installed v.7 after v.6 and had no problem so possibly what
you're saying is true. I can't argue it from a place of knowing or not.
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JL
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
This gets stranger and stranger. Preparing to move from Ver.7 to Ver. 6
(have you ever heard of such a dumb thing, going backwards?) I am printing
every report I can think of just in case I lose my data files. I created an
Event Report in .pdf. Some of my Events say Harold's Marriage Notes,
Can someone tell me -- is there a way to get a list of all images linked
to my database?
Thanks!
Pat
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While I admit Legacy does have a point, all the competitors would have to do
is join this very newslist (which I am sure they have already done) or just
test the program for themselves by buying a copy to find out where the bugs
are. The problems are certainly continuously documented at length in
If you are seriously thinking of going back to v.6 making reports of
every kind is a hard way of going about it. Make a copy of your entire
Legacy7 folder on another drive, even if it's just a flash-drive. Make
two backups if you have somewhere to put them. Just right click on the
Legacy
Yah, that would be under Scrapbook.
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JL
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Can someone tell me -- is there a way to get a list of all images
linked to my database?
Thanks!
Pat
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On second thoughts, Ruth, you're making me nervous. If I followed my
own instructions and got lost, I could dig myself out. You I'm not so
sure about. Sherry offered instructions for going back to v.6. Ask her
for them. They probably know things about this I don't.
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JL
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Where did I say that I was answering *for* Legacy? Why are you taking my
words and attributing them to Legacy? I simply posed one possible reason why
that is the common practice for most companies. Unless you are a stockholder
I don't see why you are entitled to know *their* internal reasoning
I don't have any specific knowledge. I am simple stating a best practice.
No different that closing running programs and turning off anti-virus
software during installations. Most times there is no problem if you fail to
do that but occasionally it will come back to bite.
Gary
- Original
I think I've got it worked out. I've backed up my files in 2 places. I think
I've got a backup of my files from Ver. 6 if I installed Ver. 7 in June. I
should be able to do a Restore from my external backup drive so I don't have
to do a gedcom. You have no idea how scared I am, though.
Ruth
Sue seemsto me that alot of people on this list sure love b--ch.
How about drying up and let the useful messages dominate for a while?
Art Seddon
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Slight correction, I didn't say can't, I said it is not a good idea.
Gary
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From: JLB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Now, some-one just wrote to say that you can't have both versions unless
you install them chronologically. ie. v.6, then v.7. Otherwise you
risk overwriting
Wouldn't it be a kick in the head if I went thru all this grief to go back
to Ver 6 only to find out the next day an update is available that would
correct the Descendent Report?
Ruth
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From: JLB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent:
Marie:
Thanks so much for checking this out. Your results are a little different
from mine but sound vaguely like what Ruth is experiencing. If you can get
a decent RTF report, it's possible you might be on the track of something
that could help us both out, at least temporarily. I don't care
Yes.
My favorite Adobe Elements was version 2. I hung on for a long time.
Eventually v.3 won me over but only sort of. Then I went to v.5
because I thought the IPTC handling would be better. It wasn't. Now I
think they've got v.8 coming out and I'm still debating whether to go
back to
I feel like I'm in one of those high-tension dramas where the hero, in
this case heroine, is defusing a bomb and in less than 4 seconds the
whole city could blow to smithereens.
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Gary Templeman wrote:
Ruth,
If you're deviating from the script, I am going to close my eyes and
pretend I never met you. You can't restore your backup files from v.6
into your installation of v.7. You still have to install v.6.
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JL
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