RE: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-06 Thread music-line
17:53 To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question! David, I cannot understand that as the address below is fine (just checked it) Note it is not .com. Actually it would be better with a slash at the end (have now put that in) but th

Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-06 Thread Glenn Woodman
Mike Fry wrote: > Re-read the original message. In fact look at the bottom of any of Rons' > messages. You'll see that he's in the UK therefore you need *.co.uk* Thanks, Mike. I should have been able to see that. On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Mike Fry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Glenn Wood

RE: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-06 Thread ronald ferguson
/ _ > Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 08:52:37 -0700 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the > question! > > Ron, > > I tried visiting your Website at fergys.co (as you listed).

Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-06 Thread Mike Fry
Glenn Woodman wrote: Ron, I tried visiting your Website at fergys.co (as you listed). I get a message returned "unable to located that page." I then tried www.fergys.com, and I get another message saying that that domain is available for purchase. Is there a typo in your post? Re-read

Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-06 Thread Glenn Woodman
Family Tree at: > http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ > For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ > _____ > > > > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To: LegacyUserGroup@legac

[LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-05 Thread Dave Keeney
iginal Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Young Sent: 05 July 2008 04:08 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question! On 7/4/08, Jenny M Benson wrote: > So if you found a p

Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-05 Thread Bruce McArthur
Hi again I'm sorry I seem to have opened a can of worms with my description of TMG's ability to record "witnesses". Witnesses is just a TMG generic term for other people involved in an event - in fact they can take on any role - so in a census they can be wife, son, daughter etc, for a will

Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-05 Thread Jenny M Benson
Mary Young wrote I don't worry about "resources" that is what modern computers Nice if you can afford to upgrade to bigger and better memory and hard drive whenever you need to! Chacun a son gout. I guess we have to agree to differ. Fortunately, we are all free to differ and most of us a

Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-05 Thread Jenny M Benson
music-line wrote Now I'm no expert (as by now you've gathered) but surely if the information is there whether it is in the Master Source or Detail Source it is the same information, being recorded the same number of times and therefore using (approximately) the same memory resources. Surely w

Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-05 Thread Elizabeth Richardson
From: "Wynthner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question! The point is that it doesn't matter who gave the information. Whoever gave it would be Witness #1. As

Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-05 Thread Wynthner
ROTECTED]> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, July 5, 2008 5:12:16 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question! How in the world do you tell who gave the info to the census enumerator?  In just one case, I can tell -- my grandmoth

RE: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-05 Thread Cary
D] On Behalf Of Gary Templeman Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 11:55 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question! - Original Message - From: "Janis Gilmore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturd

Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-05 Thread Gary Templeman
- Original Message - From: "Janis Gilmore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 8:29 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question! I am a splitter, although I split less with the new Source Writer. I am tru

Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-05 Thread Elizabeth Richardson
CTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:29 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question! I am a splitter, although I split less with the new Source Writer. I am truly curious as to why anyone cares how many Master Sources they have? I frequently s

Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-05 Thread Elizabeth Richardson
PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 12:44 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question! Hi Mary, I really want to be able to search legacy for a census (exact location) and to get a census (exact location) as a result and not

RE: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-05 Thread Janis Gilmore
just truly curious.) Janis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce McArthur Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 4:20 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question! Hi This i

Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-05 Thread John Clare
Another reason for not splitting is to avoid errors. If you consider each one as separate, there is a chance that mistakes can enter into the data. Also, if you wish to change the description of a source, you only have to change it in one place rather than in each record. In the UK, the Public Reco

RE: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-05 Thread music-line
July 2008 12:34 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question! Maybe it's easier in v.7 (or do you have that already?) Mary On 7/5/08, music-line <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I found it Mary, so thanks for that, bu

Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-05 Thread Mary Young
Maybe it's easier in v.7 (or do you have that already?) Mary On 7/5/08, music-line <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I found it Mary, so thanks for that, but as you say, it is a bit tedious. > To find something in a Detail Source, I eventually found it by searching > Citation-Text. Legacy User Grou

RE: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-05 Thread music-line
f Of Mary Young Sent: 05 July 2008 11:38 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question! David wrote: > The real question was if someone asked me where it was, how would I search > my Legacy database? I don

Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-05 Thread Elizabeth Cunningham
: Friday, July 4, 2008 6:57:45 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question! Re: TMG witnesses on a census. I don't know the purpose in other countries, but in the US this decennial enumeration is (supposedly) done for the purpose of creating voting di

Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-05 Thread Mary Young
David wrote: > The real question was if someone asked me where it was, how would I search > my Legacy database? I don't think I can search sources for 'The Lowe' in > Legacy. Yes, you can! But there are 10 fields in Sources, so it can be tedious. Don't use the Magnifying Glass icon search. In t

Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-05 Thread Mary Young
Jenny I don't worry about "resources" that is what modern computers are for. Reports are saved to pdf and emailed. Chacun a son gout. I guess we have to agree to differ. Mary Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-ar

Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-05 Thread Mary Young
David wrote: > Oh no, Mary. Does this mean you are deserting the 'extreme splitters club'. > Only me and Ward Walker left!! :-) I only said "might" ! (offered as a sop to the extreme lumpers). Mary Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messa

RE: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-05 Thread music-line
o.uk * -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Young Sent: 04 July 2008 22:30 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question! On 7/4/08, Elizabeth Richar

RE: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-05 Thread music-line
: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question! Mary Young wrote >it's no more difficult to access 500 or 5,000 Sources than 220 - if >they're sensibly named. Of course it's not - perhaps a fraction more time-consuming - but what a waste of resources!

RE: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-05 Thread music-line
alf Of Mary Young Sent: 05 July 2008 04:08 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question! On 7/4/08, Jenny M Benson wrote: > So if you found a publication that mentioned 2 of your relatives on page 6, > one on page 150

Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-05 Thread Jenny M Benson
Bruce McArthur wrote In TMG each part of the address has a name e.g. village, city or county and you can have different names for different parts of the address depending on the country you are dealing with. In Legacy you can put anything anywhere and you could end up with a place being at se

RE: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-05 Thread music-line
CTED] On Behalf Of Mary Young Sent: 04 July 2008 20:28 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question! IMHO (unless you intend academic publishing) none of this really matters. As long as you are consistent and you get

Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-05 Thread Jenny M Benson
Mary Young wrote it's no more difficult to access 500 or 5,000 Sources than 220 - if they're sensibly named. Of course it's not - perhaps a fraction more time-consuming - but what a waste of resources! The program needs more memory to handle the bulk, the hard disk needs more space to store

RE: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-05 Thread music-line
MAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jenny M Benson Sent: 04 July 2008 23:22 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question! Mary Young wrote >I'm an extreme splitter. >I rarely use Source Detail, and never the same Deta

RE: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-05 Thread music-line
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: 04 July 2008 21:07 To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question! David, Re Census Sources. You are just about right, Master Sources by Cou

Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-05 Thread Wynthner
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2008 6:57:45 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question! Re: TMG witnesses on a census. I don't know the purpose in other countries, but in the US this decennial enu

Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-05 Thread Bruce McArthur
Hi Just to clarify what I meant by "unstructured address". In TMG each part of the address has a name e.g. village, city or county and you can have different names for different parts of the address depending on the country you are dealing with. In Legacy you can put anything anywhere and yo

Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-04 Thread Mary Young
On 7/4/08, Jenny M Benson wrote: > So if you found a publication that mentioned 2 of your relatives on page 6, > one on page 150 and 3 on page 175 would you have 3 different Master Sources > for that one issue of that publication? Alas mine were all poor folk, so this hasn't happened yet! I would

Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-04 Thread Elizabeth Richardson
2008 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question! Hi This is my first ever posting to this list and I don't even use Legacy but have always used TMG. I do however own Legacy V7 and I like the program but it would be too much work to move fr

Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-04 Thread Jenny M Benson
Mary Young wrote I'm an extreme splitter. I rarely use Source Detail, and never the same Detail to more than one Individual. So if you found a publication that mentioned 2 of your relatives on page 6, one on page 150 and 3 on page 175 would you have 3 different Master Sources for that one is

Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-04 Thread Gail Nestor
One reason I like lumping census sources at the county level is that I can click on a county and see all the people who live in that county all together. This is handy when I am studying migration patterns and when I'm searching for a widow or orphan family to merge into the fold. Lumping becomes

Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-04 Thread Mary Young
> I positively quail at the thought of having a separate Master Source for > every location for every Census - it would run into hundreds. Or maybe thousands in my case. But not for every place and every year - it's a restricted set which works for my peculiar purposes. > With regard to your poin

RE: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-04 Thread ronald ferguson
EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the > question! > Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 21:20:07 +0100 > > Hi > > This is my first ever posting to this list and I don't even use Legacy but > have

Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-04 Thread Jenny M Benson
Bruce McArthur wrote This is my first ever posting to this list and I don't even use Legacy but have always used TMG. I do however own Legacy V7 and I like the program but it would be too much work to move from TMG. I'm intrigued! You have a copy of a program you don't use and you join its

Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-04 Thread Mary Young
On 7/4/08, Elizabeth Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do you use the location field when entering the census event? Yes, I always use Location - often 5 or 6 of the fields to pinpoint the place. I need to know exactly where people were! If there's a census entry with Location, I don't bother

Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-04 Thread Mary Young
IMHO (unless you intend academic publishing) none of this really matters. As long as you are consistent and you get the output you want. If someone asks > "by the way, do you have links with a place called 'The Lowe'? I'm afraid I > don't know much else about it". > How do I check? It's a Locat

Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-04 Thread Bruce McArthur
Hi This is my first ever posting to this list and I don't even use Legacy but have always used TMG. I do however own Legacy V7 and I like the program but it would be too much work to move from TMG. One of the reasons for this is that, because of the way TMG handles witnesses, only the head o

Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-04 Thread Mary Young
David wrote > Perhaps the search feature is something else I need a refresher on. Me too, David! I'm an extreme splitter. I rarely use Source Detail, and never the same Detail to more than one Individual. Can't find the darn things again :-) Mary the Bemused Legacy User Group guidelines:

Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-04 Thread Jenny M Benson
music-line wrote I may be wrong, but I think he might even use '1901, England' as a Master Source with everything else as Detail. I certainly do! I positively quail at the thought of having a separate Master Source for every location for every Census - it would run into hundreds. Good datab

RE: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-04 Thread ronald ferguson
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the > question! > Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 18:21:07 +0100 > > Thanks for the reply Kirsten. > > I am only an occasional user and

RE: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-04 Thread music-line
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kirsten Bowman Sent: 04 July 2008 17:00 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question! David: Why would you have to be "setting up the

Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-04 Thread Elizabeth Richardson
William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson - Original Message - From: "music-line" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 9:21 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question! Thanks for the reply Kirsten. I am only an occasiona

RE: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-04 Thread Kirsten Bowman
. Kirsten From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ward Walker Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 8:21 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question! Hi David, If it is any comfort, I also started out

RE: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-04 Thread Kirsten Bowman
nal Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of music-line Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 7:21 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question! Since the Legacy 7 update with the new Census templates

RE: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-04 Thread music-line
ROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ward Walker Sent: 04 July 2008 16:21 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question! Hi David, If it is any comfort, I also started out intuitively as an extreme splitter,

Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-04 Thread Ward Walker
"music-line" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 10:21 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question! Since the Legacy 7 update with the new Census templates for England, I have had a little look, but now get the impression that

[LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-04 Thread music-line
Since the Legacy 7 update with the new Census templates for England, I have had a little look, but now get the impression that I may be alone in using my 'maximum splitting' system for sources. The new templates, by the way the defaults are set out, imply that a census Master Source should be iden