Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Copyright Assignment

2010-01-05 Thread 80n
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 5:08 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: Although, for the most part, CC-BY-SA does have roughly the same effect in all jurisdictions. You can do whatever you want with the geodata, so long as you don't legally restrict others from using the geodata you add. In

[OSM-legal-talk] Contributor Terms (was Re: Copyright Assignment)

2010-01-05 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Two related things on Contributor Terms: [80n on share-alike] By comparison, ODbL+Contributor Terms has properties that break this principle. A derived work can not be fed back into OSM unless the author agrees to the contributor terms. Matt set up a poll at

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Copyright Assignment

2010-01-05 Thread Simon Ward
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 07:24:47PM +, 80n wrote: Any share-however-you-like license has the properties you describe. We're talking about share-alike here. It may suit you, as a consumer of OSM data, to not give a damn about contributing back to the project, but that's not what OSM is

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Copyright Assignment

2010-01-05 Thread Simon Ward
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 07:33:44PM +, Rob Myers wrote: back, and that having changed licences once it's important that OSM be able to change/upgrade/whatever the licence in the future I believe the contributor terms are too broad. I answered the poll in favour of moving to the ODbL, but

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Copyright Assignment

2010-01-05 Thread Matt Amos
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Simon Ward si...@bleah.co.uk wrote: The upgrade clause in the ODbL should be sufficient for any future licensing, and if the change is away from that, I expect as a contributor to be consulted about it. any change away from that must be chosen by a vote of the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Copyright Assignment

2010-01-05 Thread Simon Ward
On Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 12:03:51AM +, Matt Amos wrote: any change away from that must be chosen by a vote of the OSMF membership and approved by at least a majority vote of active contributors. if you want to be consulted about any future licensing change, just join OSMF or continue to

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Copyright Assignment

2010-01-05 Thread Simon Ward
On Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 12:03:51AM +, Matt Amos wrote: any change away from that must be chosen by a vote of the OSMF membership and approved by at least a majority vote of active contributors. I also think the definition of an active contributor is too narrow. I actually think it should

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Copyright Assignment

2010-01-05 Thread Matt Amos
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:41 AM, Simon Ward si...@bleah.co.uk wrote: On Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 12:21:41AM +, Matt Amos wrote: It may suit you, as a consumer of OSM data, to not give a damn about contributing back to the project, but that's not what OSM is about. i'm both a producer and a

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Copyright Assignment

2010-01-05 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Simon Ward wrote: I also think the definition of an active contributor is too narrow. I actually think it should be scrapped completely, because it doesn’t matter whether somebody isn’t active any more. Oh yes it does, because if someone isn't active any more it will become harder and

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Copyright Assignment

2010-01-05 Thread Simon Ward
On Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 02:44:53AM +0100, Frederik Ramm wrote: Oh yes it does, because if someone isn't active any more it will become harder and harder to get an opinion out of him. Someone who is not active any more will often have lost interest or lost his life, that's why, while

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Copyright Assignment

2010-01-05 Thread Simon Ward
On Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 02:44:53AM +0100, Frederik Ramm wrote: Oh yes it does, because if someone isn't active any more it will become harder and harder to get an opinion out of him. Someone who is not active any more will often have lost interest or lost his life, that's why, while

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Copyright Assignment

2010-01-05 Thread Simon Ward
On Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 02:44:53AM +0100, Frederik Ramm wrote: Unless you're willing sign something that says I agree that OSMF will make two attempts to contact me at my registered e-mail address with information on how to vote on an upcoming license change suggestion, and if I don't react