OK, now I have Jared's response and I'm sorry if I seemed peevish. FWIIW, I much
respect Jared's work so this is a comradely talk.
>Just read your long
> commentary, hjowever, and I think you miss the point - which is, arrest of
> Borodin is flagrant act of aggression by the Us and SWISS cohorts.
> -Original Message-
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>
> The URL for his article is http://emperors-clothe
> what
> the heck is
> a Leninist program today? Is it reading the Leninist classics? Some, but
> not really.
> I, unlike Mark Jones, don't see tremendous merits in simply re-tracing
> the steps (I'm
> bastardising you, Mark- feel free to tear a strip off o
A.Wosni wrote:
>I find that M.J's position is entirely defeatist: If I get him
> right he says, 1. we must not blame a party which carries the name of
> 'communism' for not being communist but reformist, and 2. that anyway it doesn't
> make any difference for the revolutionary process if ther
[this is the kind of concrete analysis we need much more of. Mark]
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Subject: Re: DEBATE: Zim's main neoliberal hits back
My submission to th
Can anyone email me the following paper: Bunker, Stephen G. and Paul Ciccantell.
1999. "Economic Ascent and
the Global Environment: World-Systems Theory and the New Historical Materialism," in
Goldfrank, et al., eds., Ecology and the World-System
Many thanks
Sorry for inadvertently crossposting twice between l-i and crashlist yesterday, it's
against the rules and hope didn't inconvenience too many of you masses hungry for
knowledge out there.
best to all
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Warines is definitely recommended, but Reddaway seems to usefully summarise the
reasons why hopeful old-fashioned liberals like him became so jaundicved about the
New Russia.
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> Barry Stoller
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From: Johnson's Russia List
From: Peter Pavilionis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: New Book: The Tragedy of Russia's Reforms: Market Bolshevism
Against Democracy
The Tragedy of Russia's Reforms: Market Bolshevism Against Democracy
by Peter Reddaway and Dmitri Glinski
768 pp./6 x 9
$29.95 (paper);
>I have been receiving information on P. Alegre. Too
> much foam, too little beer. Will try to give some report to the list.
excellent, we need to see the materials and here more about it.
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from Six Red Months in Russia
SMOLNY INSTITUTE, headquarters of the Bolsheviki, is on the edge of Petrograd. Years
ago it was considered "way out in the country," but the city grew out to meet it,
engulfed it and finally claimed it as its own. Smolny is an enormous place; the
great main building
Nestor:
>
> I know Mark hates Kagarlitsky to the guts, which I highly deplore
I don't hate him at all. I'm trying to get a debate going about the difference
between revolutionary reforms and reformist reforms.
The trouble is that the likes of you, Boris Kagarlitsky and others may very well
succe
BBC Monitoring
Russian opponents of the IMF hold anti-Davos news conference in Moscow
Source: Kommersant, Moscow, in Russian 27 Jan 01
None to vanquish the IMF.
In Moscow yesterday, a few Russian antiglobalists held a news conference
timed to coincide with the summit in Davos. During it they
Stephen E Philion:
> Mark,
> Who was criticising Frantz Fanon? And what is wrong with saying that an
> argument that Doug Henwood, even if you do think he is the most evil force
> haunting the world today, happens to be similar to or even the same as
> FF's on a particular issue? What is Leninist
Stephen E Philion wrote:
> Well, if that is Henwood's argument, it's not that far from Frantz Fanon,
> who argued that advanced capitalist countries frequently set conditions
> for investment on newly decolonized countries that keep them from being
> able to experience development *and* if they
Louis Proyect wrote:
>
> I stand corrected. Furthermore, as a rule of thumb whatever Sam says I
> agree with in advance. Unless, of course, it is related to the topic of
> wild life preservation.
>
>
I'd like to get a wilder life myself. I'm a protected sub-species, too, according to
my wife.
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> A warm welcome to Dominic Tweedie (well
I'm glad Mac posted this Panitch artcle (presumably the intro essay to a recent Soc
Register, publication detalils WOULD be welome) and I think that L-I has a raison
d'etre as a site dedicated to high-level theoretical debate about the state, and how
we analyse and conceptualise it within the pro
this link goes to a different article!
Mark
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> Macdonald Stainsby
> Sent: 28 January 2001 09:53
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [L-I] The legacy...part 1
>
>
> "reply to article in New Left Re
Mac, where was this published? Reference, please
Mark
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> Macdonald Stainsby
> Sent: 28 January 2001 07:48
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>
>
> Any comments? - Macdonald
> >Masochism seems like an appropriate psychological accompaniment for
> >the transition from communism to capitalism in Russia and the
> >Ukraine. The citizens are being screwed so best that they like it
> >and continue under the whip of the oligarchs, and receive
> >shock-treatment by following
I was in the USSR when, as a result of Gorbachev's 'glasnost' (openness in the
press), the first editions in many decades were published of the main works of Freud
(pronounced 'Fried' in Russian). It was a sensation. Perfectly sensible people
suddenly ceased to notice the collapse of society, fami
Moscow Times
January 26, 2001
Russia Needs A Pokemon to Call Its Own
By Boris Kagarlitsky
Even children's cartoons can provoke political controversy. As soon as ORT
announced plans to broadcast the Japanese cartoon Pokemon, the press was
full of critical commentary. Why do we need these "pocket m
Demonstrators look to steal the show at the leading global talking shop, says Guy de
Jonquihres
Published: January 23 2001 21:23GMT | Last Updated: January 24 2001 07:59GMT
The 2,000 members of the international power elite converging on Davos for the start
of the World Economic Forum on Thur
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Subject: DEBATE: (Fwd) Kagarlitsky on Prague
(Just received...)
Boris Kagarlitsky
The Lessons of Prague
The events of September 2000 in
>No one on LBO talk could last five postings in a debate with the
> Leninists who "dwell" on L-I, and they would never subject their fragile egos to
> several posts with us anyways), but rather forwarded something from the "Week".
It is true that they tend to avoid debate, but nonetheless there a
ns. The only mass activism which has any purchase on state power is in
the most marginal of peripheries, eg Phillippines, Indonesia etc and even there we
are not exactly seeing the second coming of Great October.
>
> (Flattered for the attention, but you do realise, Yoshie, that I
Patrick Bond:
>>True, the better people writing on this (e.g., Amin and Bello)
haven't got to the point of staking out concrete strategic
approaches (in the current issue of Socialist Register, two SA
comrades and I make some tentative arguments about regionalism from
below). In the southern Afri
>
> Mark Jones wrote:
>
> > >
> > Unfortunately the world just is not and will not be like this pleasant
> day dream.
>
> o.k. So?
>
> Carrol
Carrol, that's what we are here discussing. For a long time some of us have been
discussing fundamental probl
>
> Ideally, socialism in Africa should coincide with pan-Africanism of
> the revolutionary kind, and at the level of short- to medium-term
> goals, movements on the left should aspire to a regionalist program
> of the kind that Samir Amin, Pat Bond, etc. have advocated. That
> would go toward a
> An interesting development is that in the USA an economic downturn,
> rising energy costs, effects of deregulation, etc. have coincided in
> California. Not yet the nation- & region-wide crisis of the kind
> that you speak of, but California may be a harbinger of things to
> come. Neoliberal c
OK, I apologise. I was wrong to be so puerile and frivolous about James Heartfield,
Richard Gott etc. I should have known better.
Let's draw a line under this right now. Yoshie or any of us have a right to cite
anyone she/they want to in support of an argument or position. Lou surely has a
right
Yoshie Furuhashi:
> >Most surreal...Richard
> >Gott, who republished Guevara's Congo diaries as a blast against Kabila
> >at the same time charges him with having 'alienated foreign investors by
> >refusing to make payments on the gigantic foreign debt of $14bn incurred
> >by his profligate prede
Louis Proyect:
>
>
> Despite their pleasant demeanor on various progressive Internet forums,
> people like James Heartfield are Thatcherites who choose to use Marxish
> verbiage as the need arises.
Heatfield is a runner. let's never forget it. Like those Russki sectaries who can't
stand the hea
> I wonder why Svetlana is so upset because of Bilenkin's expulsion only
> and not about expulsion of Myers.
A very interesting question. Ho-hum, I suppose we shall never know, know that Svyeta
has *gone*.
Mark
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Carrol Cox wrote:
>
> Freedom of speech refers only to the use & abuse of
> state power. it is irrelevant in the present context.
Damn, and here was I hoping to drag Lenin into it somehow. You're right of course.
As ever.
Mark
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Svetlana Baiborodova wrote:
>
> I go away, be happy!
Svyetichka, this already your 5th or 6th curtain call, are you going or staying?
Privyet,
Mark
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Tony:
> Mark is not a list moderator, yet assures us that
> certain folk shall not return.
I'm not a moderator so can't keep people off the list. Those who have left all seem
to be highly active (fissile, in some cases) on other lists, so anyone wanting to
debate them still can.
>what about th
; En relacisn a [L-I] Latynina article on Russian external debt,
> el 18 Jan 01, a las 10:20, Mark Jones dijo:
>
> > [from JRL, which anyone interested in Russia shiould be on]
>
> Could you post the instructions to sub, Mark? You once gave them to me, but I
> could not sub at t
[typos corrected! Eyesight not what it was]
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From: Mark Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 January 2001 23:51
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [L-I] To moderators from Russia - Activity of the Workers
Trade Union "Defense"
Svetlana Baiborodova:
&
e
If you would like to know more, please write to me offlist at
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
Let me say once more, and from the heart, Svetlana Baiborodova, that I am very glad
of the participation of revolutionary Russian workers on this elist.
Best wishes
Mark Jones
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Johannes Schneider wrote:
> Mine argues for the expulsion of a person who did a tremendous work in
>inf
[from JRL, which anyone interested in Russia shiould be on]
Moscow Times
January 17, 2001
Some Debts Are Better Than Others
By Yulia Latynina
President Vladimir Putin has announced that pensions will be raised. At the
same time, Finance Minister Alexei Kudrin announced that Russia would not
make
> This may be chauvinism. But probably the less "C" of all the CPs in the world
> was the Argentine one (and the Uruguayan?). I missed it on Mark's short list,
> when in fact it should have been heading it.
sorry, Nestor. My mistake.
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Yoshie wrote:
> One one hand:
>
> * Financial Times (London)
> January 5, 2001, Friday London Edition 1
> SECTION: WORLD NEWS - EUROPE; Pg. 6
> HEADLINE: WORLD NEWS - EUROPE: Russia turns its back on western aid:
In order to understand anything in Russia, you have to dig beneath the surfac
>
> The man's craftier than Zyuganov, I gather. He has his supporters
> use the anti-Semitic rhetoric, avoiding it himself.
This was not an anti-semitic joke but a joke by a famous *Jewish* comedian. If the
context had been transferred to Brooklyn and the person who made the joke was Woodie
All
Yoshie:
> First of all, Russian leftists need to expand the base for support of
> Communism beyond "platoons of pensioners"! I don't think they can
> expand it while accommodating themselves to Putin, though. It seems
> to me that Zyuganov ain't smart or ambitious enough to use Putin for
> his s
Yoshie:
> we don't want to lose someone like Johannes
> from the list, do we? He's on the side of anti-imperialism.
>
> >ONE part is revolutionary and
> >wishes to overthrow capitalism; the other is accommodationist and has no such
> >intention.
>
> The problem is that the CPRF has & will accomm
Yoshie wrote:
> Putin, by co-opting anti-Semitic & anti-liberal rhetoric widespread
> in Russia, can coopt the themes of "socialism = the modern form of
> Russian patriotism" as well. The CPRF has only itself to blame,
> since it's happy with the role of the loyal opposition.
On the contrary, Pu
> My name is Svetlana Baiborodova. I am a chairwomen of Samara branch of
> Russian Association of the Workers Trade Union "Defense of Labor", a member
> of Coordinating Commitee of the All-Russian Campaign in Defense of Acting
> Labor Code, an editor of weekly Left.ru ("Left Russia"): http://left
> Last year I had my e-mail program crash, so I lost the Crashlist URL,
> among other things. Can you mail the URL to me or post it here?
>
> Yoshie
I'll sub you if you like.
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I think Yoshie's interventions are helpful and I am obliged to her for them.
HOWEVER: to say
> The clarity of revolutionary Leninist politics can't be achieved if
> one part of the Left remains trapped in the overblown fear of
> Red-Brown alliances on the periphery and the other part falls for
Yoshie wrote
>
> Zyuganov Interview 11 September 2000
>
> BBC MONITORING
> ZYUGANOV INTERVIEW: RUSSIAN COMMUNIST LEADER EXPANDS ON MOVE TO
> SUPPORT KREMLIN, DROP OLD ALLIES
but if you read what the man says, is it so unreasonable?
> Russia today is at a crossroads. Either we following the new
you don't think that the CPRF = Marxism-Leninism, do you?
No, no and again no, as Vladimir Ilyich might say. But so what? Is it the use of the
name 'communist' which winds people up into such hysterical frenzies? But we have
had non-communist communist parties for years and decades and people ha
Yoshie wrote:
>
> The CPRF's program, such as it is, can never be achieved by the
> CPRF's means.
This means that it's a normal party no? Operating according to the normal rules of
hypocrisy, double-dealing, sanctimoniousness etc of bourgeois parties everywhere.
Until just a few years ago, the Br
> (((
>
> CB: Please give an example of a successful list .
>
>
It would be invidious to make examples, but I suppose that if Bob Malecki really has
312 people listening to him on his egroups list, perhaps we should call that a
success, hey?
Mark
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Tony, I agree with most of your remarks, and I'm glad you're here and also that you
are struggling heroically at Solidarity.
In particular I agree that "the phobic iSWor/
> Kagarlitsky crowd" is just a front. You're right: they "trumpet within the Left
> of the imperialist bloc countries a hyste
>
> CB: What the fuck is going on , Mark ? Why the hell would you call for
> closing down the list like some goddamn the lord giveth and the lord taketh away ?
If you've been following the exchanges you'll see that i'm concerned to make the
list a success, not close it down. maybe licence for a
I just want to point out that it was no less a rooted stalinoid perverted sectarian
than I myself who originally invited Nestor G. -- and what's more, Johannes S. --
to comoderate L-I. So I picked up a stone and dropped it on my own foot, in the
latter case, as the maoists say. But I have always
Mac, it's not a question of being pro- or anti-kprf. I don't think, for instance
that either Lou or I are pro-kprf (i shouldn't speak for him anyway). The point is
that we have to begin from two simultaneous start-points: (a) analysis of the global
conjuncture and how Russia sits in that and (b) a
iticism* of Yeltsin to say that he is of Jewish origin. Lenin *also*
had Jewish antecedents, so what?
> 3. After Mark Jones had been subbed to L-I he publicly called for closing
> down L-I.
Nonsense.
Mark
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>
> I am also a member of Solidarity, and contribute commentary on that list
> sponsored by that organization, where Owen and Steve's views on
> Milosevic and Kagarlitsky reign supreme. It does not make my case
> easier to argue against these views there, when a level of intolerance
> for d
This was but one of the Red Guard battalions and it was followed by
a second and a third. The fourth was awaiting its turn, the men excited
and with their nerves on edge. News from the Front was scanty.
We knew that Comrade Chudnovsky's advanced troops had been
unable to stem the attack and were
llowing extract, taken from my book 'Storming the Heavens'
(Pluto, 1987) to counter support shown on this List for the new right-wing
orthodoxy associated with Richard Pipes and Orlando Figes.
Mark Jones
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Stever Myers wrote:
>This I will detail in an article I am doing research for
>currently - and put on this list.
I hope the moderators will permit no such thing.
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In lapidary prose, full of burning urgency, revolutionary passion, love of the
people and devotion to the cause of the Party, Lenin analysed and dealt with
intractable issues of freedom of speech and of the press, of the meaning of state
power in the hands of the workers, and of the crucial tasks
Johannes wrote:
> Unfortunately it will be rather easy
> to find more antisemitic quotes from leading CPRF members.
>
Unfortunately there is seemingly no end to attempts like this to create hysterias
about alleged pogroms, mass anti-semitism etc in Russia. Makashov was, of course,
roundly condem
1. From WHAT IS TO BE DONE?
Burning Questions of Our Movement
"We should dream!" I wrote these words and became alarmed. I imagined myself sitting
at a "unity conference" and opposite me were the Rabocheye Dyelo` editors and
contributors. Comrade Martynov rises and, turning to me, says sternly: "
V. I . Lenin
Lenin on the National Question
THE SOCIALIST REVOLUTION AND THE RIGHT OF NATIONS
TO SELF-DETERMINATION (THESES)
1. IMPERIALISM, SOCIALISM AND THE LIBERATION OF OPPRESSED NATIONS
Imperialism is the highest stage of development of capitalism. Capital
in the adva
> IMHO, this is an issue we on L-I should be particularly focused on.
Indeed it is.
> An aside:
>
> I suppose that this may start a healthier debate on L-I than what we have been
> having recently. And -unlike Mark Jones- I would not blame the team of
> moderators for this
> > For the system to work properly, it required an opposition that was
> > incapable in principle of taking office. Zyuganov's party coped with this
> > role to perfection. In this sense it has always been one of the system's
> > fundamental political elements. The KPRF has also been assigned an
Owen Jones wrote:
> The CPRF are, unfortunately, anything else other than funny and should be
> regarded as even more reactionary and dangerous than the regime of Vladimir
> Putin.
>
regardless of the truth or not of what follows, there is no arguing that this is all
simply unsupoported, unsubs
Notes from Louise Bryant "Six Red Months in Russia" [written 1917].
[Bryant was the political co-worker and lover of John Reed. In this little memoir
she gives her thumbnail impressions about Lenin, the Bolsheviks and the early days
of Soviet Power.]
The workingmen demand, above all, frankness
Notes from Louise Bryant Six Red Months in Russia [written 1917].
Bryant was the political co-worker and lover of John Reed. In this little memoir she
gives her thumbnail impressions about Lenin, the Bolsheviks and the early days of
Soviet Power.
The workingmen demand, above all, frankness an
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[[typos corrected]
> A revolutionary organization with a clear program has yet to come
> into being in my cor
> A revolutionary organization with a clear program has yet to come
> into being in my corner of the planet. What of yours? In the
> absence of a revolutionary party active within a mass movement, into
> what should one assimilate? We have to build it, first of all.
>
> Now, why don't you lay
>
> Fire away.
>
> Yoshie
I'm on the following lists: this, Lou's, deep-eco, wsn and the crashlist. For the
past couple of weeks I've been scanning the archives of other lists, and I haven't
felt the urge to join or participate in them. I may rejoin Rob's list or perhaps
he'll be good enough to
thanks for being with us, I've put your crashlist sub on hold
best wishes
Mark
venceremos!
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Julio FernandezBaraibar
> Sent: 13 January 2001 11:47
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [L-I] unsuscr
Yoshie wrote:
>>Lenin's criticism of Economism (socialism conflated with
trade-unionism) still stands, and if the criticism of Economism is
what Lou means by "centrism," a "swamp," etc., I cannot agree more.
I like Lenin's remark on effacing "all distinctions as between
workers and intellectuals,
> >from a self-declared and unashamed centrist, but one who desperately wants
> >to break out of this morass -
> >- Steve Myers.
Steve, I think it'll be much better for all concerned if you stay right where you
are.
Mark
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I hope my goold old cyber-friend Julio Fernandez Baraibar is not really going to be
permitted to unsub. Julio, stay at your post!
Mark
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> Julio FernandezBaraibar
> Sent: 13 January 2001 09:39
> To: [EM
whole let less flim-flam, crossposting, idiotic news items of the
'from the frontlines' type, and a whole lot less Talin-Srotsky baggage.
I hope that's all clear enough.
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Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky dijo:
>> In the end, the result of all this is either deserved and navel-
> gazing loneliness for the Left, or tremendous defeats (such as in
> Bolivia, 1972) for the masses.
>
> Anton, I am seriously afraid that you do not have the slightest idea
> of what does the word
Nestor Miguel dijo (apropos Wonsi):
> A hug,
A fucking bear hug, I hope.
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I just had a look at this site: http://www.redstar.ru/kursk5.html
This is the online version of Krasnaya Zvezda (Red Star), the armed forces
newspaper published by the Russian Defence ministry. Today's issue (25/08)
also discusses Kursk. The line seems to be that there was an *accidental*
collisi
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> Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
>
> Maybe, but I think Johannes was right in posting the announcement.
I agree, and I told him so offlist.
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Oh, come on, Johannes. This is just yet-more careerist bullshit by that
prize asshole, Salvoj Zilzek. Why the fuck didn't they post it here in the
first place? I'll tell you why. Because even Slajov Zilzek doesn't have
*that* much balls. There are people here, after all, who do know Lenin, and
wh
I asked people on the Crashlist to quit talking about Yugo a little while
back, because I couldn't find a way to anchor this debate to the Crashlist
topic, but if Jared is not welcome on L-I (I'm sure he is, really) he is
more than welcome on the Crashlist; and in fact, Yugo matters terribly, and
I hope the problem's been dealt with now. I expected lots of freeloaders who
enjoyed the pure academic housestyle of the old Crashlist, would quit when the new
list started, and they have, so good riddance. What's interesting is that plenty
of new people have joined. We'll see if the new list can
t I'm glad you are free to speak here,
anyway.
Mark Jones
PS If you want to know what *I* think about Stalin, check out this:
http://website.lineone.net/~resource_base/Stalin_WW2.htm
for more go too: http://website.lineone.net/~resource_base/
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> From: [EMAIL
> >Let's not forget that both Turkey and Japan were imperialist nations in
> >their heyday -- I'm getting a little tired of "white feminist" bashing
> >on the list.
> >
> >katha
>
What she means is "white American patriotic feminist" bashing. Doesn't this
just illustrate the complete pointlessne
We are waiting to hear from Prof Perelman, no?
Mark
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Johannes Schneider
> Sent: 20 July 2000 19:39
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; L-i
> Subject: [L-I] Re: Allied bombins durin WWII (was: Re: Land, Bread an
Johannes, this is helpful. Your remarks have been serious thru out and
worthy of debate.
In the popular mood of the time, it would have been impossible for the
Brit/US govt's to systematically avoid hitting factories in order to favour
Brit/US capitalists who happened to own them; it would have b
Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:
> Third-World nationalism often mobilizes the idea of the nation that
> masks class & gender oppressions
Isn't this a bit circular? I don't mean to be frivolous. And nationalist
discourse that hopes to succeed must sublimate class etc oppressions by
means of/via narrati
Yoshie wrote:
>
> I'd say that
> Marxism-Feminism (coupled with fight against imperialism, it goes
> without saying) is necessary to avoid the problem that Spivak points
> out.
Are you inviting Doug/Katha to this fight as participants or just
participant-observers?
Mark
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