Re: Sorting mystery

2023-02-26 Thread Steve Litt
ower of ten, such as a million (if I never expect it to reach a million. Then all become 7 character strings with preceding zeros, and they sort the way I want. SteveT Steve Litt Autumn 2022 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times http://www.troubleshooters.com/bookstore/thrive.htm -- You rec

Re: Thumb-nail Explanation Of Leo

2023-02-26 Thread Steve Litt
xtra yard here and specifically say that, among other things, Leo is a full featured outline processor. I know your preceding paragraph implies this, but I'd spell it out for the 2% of the population who actually outlines on a regular basis. SteveT Steve Litt Autumn 2022 featured book: Thriving in To

Re: Stripped trailing blanks

2021-05-23 Thread Steve Litt
oesn't address the 'Extract' command directly. > >Rob... So is your problem with blank lines solved? Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt Spring 2021 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques -- You received this message because

Re: Stripped trailing blanks ***blank LINES***

2021-05-23 Thread Steve Litt
r-used string, and then run a simple script that, on the back end, converts that string to a newline. In Linux I'd use AWK to do that, in Windows I'd use Python. It's simple. I can write such a script for you if you tell me the string. SteveT Steve Litt Spring 2021 featured book: Troubleshooting Tec

Re: Stripped trailing blanks

2021-05-23 Thread Steve Litt
dded back in. Apropos to nothing but a strong opinion I have, what's worse than trailing whitespace is the mixing of spaces and tabs. Because there's no visual way to tell the difference, and the games Vim and other editors play in converting between the two, mixing spaces and tabs is a horror movie j

@whatever cheatsheet?

2021-04-25 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, Does there currently exist a cheatsheet showing the purpose of all the various @whatever nodes (@file, @test, @button for instance)? If not, I think it would be an easy and excellent document enhancement. SteveT Steve Litt Spring 2021 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques

Re: [ctlug] M$ Joy

2021-04-12 Thread Steve Litt
Edward K. Ream said on Fri, 9 Apr 2021 12:41:30 -0500 >On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 7:55 AM Steve Litt >wrote: > >Hi Steve. Thanks for the summary. I'm not sure I have the attributions >correct below, but here are my comments. > >> I'm also looking into something

Re: [ctlug] M$ Joy

2021-04-08 Thread Steve Litt
's a huge system with huge capabilities requiring a lot of knowledge: It's a commitment. I'm copying the Leo list on this email. I feel everybody's pain. As far as I know, there's not a single piece of software out there that authors quickly and yet does consistent, styles-based formatting and outputs to bo

Block diagrams in technology presentation

2021-04-06 Thread Steve Litt
at at 7pm New York time on 4/7/2021, For details, see: http://golug.info Enjoy! SteveT Steve Litt Spring 2021 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: Discuss: Require Python 3.9?

2021-03-23 Thread Steve Litt
l other programs. Like I said, I wouldn't suffer with a 3.9.2 requirement, but I fear a lot of people would. SteveT Steve Litt Spring 2021 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques -- You received this message because

Re: Leo on Debian?

2021-03-13 Thread Steve Litt
sphinxcontrib-qthelp 1.0.3 >sphinxcontrib-serializinghtml 1.1.4 toml 0.10.2 tornado 6.1 traitlets >5.0.5 typed-ast 1.4.2 typing-extensions 3.7.4.3 urllib3 1.26.3 >webruntime 0.5.8 wrapt 1.12.1 zipp 3.4.1 (Leo) >user@debian-leo-vm:~/PyVE/PyPI/Leo$ > >< End of Log-2 > > >< Start of L

Re: What are some tips for using Leo as a stream of consciousness thought tool?

2021-03-09 Thread Steve Litt
ng Leo, I'm looking forward to your technique of having clones to my currently in-progress nodes on the top level, for quick access. Anyway, thanks for getting me past outliner's block, and on to specifying my book. SteveT Steve Litt Spring 2021 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Succe

What are some tips for using Leo as a stream of consciousness thought tool?

2021-03-06 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, I normally use outlines as a concept decomposition tool, which implies that I already know where I'm going. But now I find myself needing to do stream of consciousness thought to *discover* what I want to say in my next book. What are some tips for doing this in Leo? SteveT Steve Litt

Mention of Leo in upcoming GoLUG meeting

2021-02-02 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, The GoLUG meeting happens On Wednesday, 2/3/2021 at 7pm New York time, at https://meet.jit.si/golug . Topic is Linux authoring tools, with emphasis on Inkscape. Leo will get a mention along with Org-mode and VimOutliner. Meeting details are at http://golug.info SteveT Steve Litt

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-21 Thread Steve Litt
st is searchable * One on-disk file to many of these Leo nodes: Select using Leo, view using the file's intended handler (inkscape for svg, Libreoffice for .odt, gvim or less for a text file (the handler would be on a node by node basis). I would think this gives you all the searchability you

Re: Leo for organizing notes? [Comments Item 9]

2020-02-19 Thread Steve Litt
owes and Home Depot, so if one doesn't have it the other does. And if you add a specification to the item, it adds it to both clones. Very nice! SteveT Steve Litt February 2020 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times http://www.troubleshooters.com/thrive -- You received this message because yo

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-12 Thread Steve Litt
ossible - a stream of plain typing being the most > desirable. I'd use a little program, and if doesn't give you the exact desired format, edit it with Vim until it does. > > After that, I expect we'll be getting into user interfaces, and what > compromises might be forced on us - let's ho

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-11 Thread Steve Litt
is an excellent plan, although I could make a case for keeping some of the files separate forever. SteveT Steve Litt February 2020 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times http://www.troubleshooters.com/thrive -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-04 Thread Steve Litt
ered to HTML. > That's something, anyway. Can't you set a hotkey to simply execute an arbitrary command, so that you cans run the diagram alongside the outline? SteveT Steve Litt February 2020 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times http://www.troubleshooters.com/thrive -- You received this

Re: How to start up Leo the dumb way

2020-02-04 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 1 Feb 2020 14:51:34 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 16:48:27 -0800 (PST) > andyjim wrote: > > > Really dumb question, I know. MacOS system. I'd like to launch Leo > > from the launch bar instead of from terminal (which is the only way

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-02-04 Thread Steve Litt
racting parts. That's when you need a diagram. SteveT Steve Litt February 2020 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times http://www.troubleshooters.com/thrive -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo-editor" group. To unsubscribe from this

Re: How to start up Leo the dumb way

2020-02-01 Thread Steve Litt
lete fork sys.argv.pop(0) executable = sys.argv[0] os.execvp(executable, sys.argv) = To run Gnumeric without consuming the terminal, just do the following: ./ufork.py gnumeric SteveT Steve Litt January 2020 featured book: Troubleshoot

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-01-23 Thread Steve Litt
arate, and just hotkey a Leo headline to open that file in its natural program (LibreOffice for instance)? Can you just have a headline with the filename and the program to open it up with, and hotkey that headline? Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt January 2020 featured book: Troubleshooting: Just

Re: Leo for organizing notes?

2020-01-23 Thread Steve Litt
file from which I can get to other Leo files, directly or indirectly. Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt January 2020 featured book: Troubleshooting: Just the Facts http://www.troubleshooters.com/tjust -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo-editor"

Re: Is this a reasonable Leo Programming Hello World?

2019-12-19 Thread Steve Litt
be needed. I searched but couldn't find an example copy of leo.egg-link, and as I mentioned, prefer not to use pip. I'm willing to edit sys.path. Do you know how I can do that? Thanks for your help, Matt. SteveT Steve Litt December 2019 featured book: Rapid Learning for the 21st Cent

Re: Is this a reasonable Leo Programming Hello World?

2019-12-17 Thread Steve Litt
ild, so /home/slitt/build/leo-editor-master/leo-core.cfg is a file. In ~/.leo I could find nothing that referenced /home/slitt/build/leo-editor-master , and I have a hunch that's the problem but I can't figure it out farther. Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt December 2019 featured book: Rapid Learning

Is this a reasonable Leo Programming Hello World?

2019-12-17 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, Is the attached hello.leo a reasonable Hello World for using Leo to write Python programs? Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt December 2019 featured book: Rapid Learning for the 21st Century http://www.troubleshooters.com/rl21 -- You received this message because you are subscribed

Re: A new sense of calm about Leo

2019-01-21 Thread Steve Litt
o the original, with my program serving as a prototype for both behavior and architecture. No bikeshedding required. So if you never again put an enhancement in Leo itself, that doesn't prevent all sorts of enhancements being made separately. Leo remains encapsulated. -- SteveT Steve Litt Janu

Re: Leo in 2019

2019-01-08 Thread Steve Litt
language, but lacks a *well curated* library of stuff. For instance, you *know* Python's XML parsers work, but you *hope* that's true of 3rd party Lua XML parsers. I've found that once I start a project in Python, I won't hit any dead ends, which is why I use it instead of Lua. SteveT Steve Litt

Re: My first screencast: using clones in everyday workflow

2013-11-16 Thread Steve Litt
that leoEditCommands.py was changed? You asked a month ago what could make Leo more universally popular. Screencasts like this are exactly what is needed. It teaches, and it's also a dog and pony show displaying Leo's strengths. Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com

Re: I can't make Leo-Editor start in a full-screen window under openSUSU 12.1

2013-11-04 Thread Steve Litt
software for modern operating systems. So congrats on the tree deployment of Leo. Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups leo-editor

Re: I can't make Leo-Editor start in a full-screen window under openSUSU 12.1

2013-11-04 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 04 Nov 2013 11:29:33 -0500 Jacob Peck gatesph...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/4/2013 11:19 AM, Steve Litt wrote: I'll tell you a little secret that will make Linux and Windows people hate me: I **love** apps, like Leo, that install in a single tree. No .so. No .dll. No having to put

Re: Next draft of rst3 tutorial is ready for review, especially by rst3 newbies

2013-11-01 Thread Steve Litt
-complex-command). Ed, Before you and I spend a lot of time debugging Leo, please tell me the earliest version for which this tutorial works. The 4.11a1 I just downloaded and installed has a build date of 2/26/2012. As I remember, you did all the Rst stuff this year. SteveT Steve Litt

Re: Next draft of rst3 tutorial is ready for review, especially by rst3 newbies

2013-11-01 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 1 Nov 2013 11:59:41 -0500 Edward K. Ream edream...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.comwrote: Before you and I spend a lot of time debugging Leo, please tell me the earliest version for which this tutorial works

Re: Next draft of rst3 tutorial is ready for review, especially by rst3 newbies

2013-11-01 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 1 Nov 2013 13:22:44 -0500 Edward K. Ream edream...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.comwrote: How do I get it? 4.11a1 looked like the latest version. https://sourceforge.net/projects/leo/files/Leo/4.11-b1/ or bzr pull

Re: Next draft of rst3 tutorial is ready for review, especially by rst3 newbies

2013-10-31 Thread Steve Litt
to this email. It's less than 2KB. I'm using Leo 4.10 build 5020 2012-02-26. Is that why I'm getting no myDocument.html? I just downloaded 4.11, which I'll try tomorrow. Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance

Re: Please tell us: what are the benefits of Leo to *you*

2013-10-26 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 10:59:47 +0800 Zoom.Quiet zoom.qu...@gmail.com wrote: Leo is my Favorites Mind Capsule ;-) - she can contain all kinds of my Works (novel, Zoom, Could you please elaborate on how you use Leo in writing novels? Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt* http

Re: Check out the rewritten rst3 tutorial

2013-10-26 Thread Steve Litt
branches, but by that time he knows the path like the back of his hand. By the way, where CAN I find the created rST? Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance -- You received this message because you are subscribed

Re: Why is nobody on #leo?

2013-10-24 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 24 Oct 2013 10:36:32 -0500 Edward K. Ream edream...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.comwrote: There's a #leo IRC channel on FreeNode, devoted to Leo, but right now I (and Chanserve) are the only ones on it. IRC doesn't

Re: Approaching Leo

2013-10-22 Thread Steve Litt
. I was able to increment in consecutive nodes and have it come out right. That example uses clones to show how they can be used to reduce code repetition. I was unable to get several clones all execute. Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com

Re: This, and *only* this, can make Leo more popular

2013-10-21 Thread Steve Litt
as the Leo outline gets added to --- you don't flip a switch at the end and poof, a program shows up. The switch flipping thing is an image that helps me envision the benefits of Leo, even though it isn't quite accurate. == Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt* http

Approaching Leo

2013-10-21 Thread Steve Litt
construction method better than Java or whatever IDE Microsoft is using these days, he'll shout it from the rooftops. If Leo is capable of creating a piece of software like Leo itself, Leo is a few tutorials and a couple videos away from fame and ubiquitous usage. Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt

Why is nobody on #leo?

2013-10-21 Thread Steve Litt
to talk :-) Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups leo-editor group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

Re: This, and *only* this, can make Leo more popular

2013-10-20 Thread Steve Litt
uses, and publicize them. I bet people are doing things with Leo you never dreamed of, and some of those things might be the itch some journalist wants to scratch. HTH, SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance -- You

Re: This, and *only* this, can make Leo more popular

2013-10-20 Thread Steve Litt
in Leo. The improvement I would have added is that he should have actually run the app at the end, and showed the effect his Leo-edited changes had on the app. Does anyone have instructions for building a Hello World app in Leo? Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt* http

Re: Leo in under one hour

2013-10-02 Thread Steve Litt
is running. Dazzle the hell out of them with a couple other magic tricks. The last sentence should be within an hour, you can be doing these things too. GIVE THEM A REASON TO SALIVATE OVER LEO!!! Then, they'll have the proper incentive to continue learning it. Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt

Re: Leo tutorials

2013-08-10 Thread Steve Litt
is to start using Leo, using the docs as a reference for when you have questions. Ask question here when you get stuck. Another possibility would be to make a #leo IRC group on FreeNode. This works better in some communities than in others, and maybe it would work well for Leo. SteveT Steve Litt

Re: What are the purposes of releases and documentation

2013-08-10 Thread Steve Litt
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Re: Proposal - encryption plugin

2013-08-09 Thread Steve Litt
an ssh tunnel. Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups leo-editor group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

Re: Rich Text support in Leo

2013-08-07 Thread Steve Litt
to the effect of span class=myemphtext to be emphasized/span, and that if I have another style called shoutparagraph, I could apply that to whole paragraph type entities, and it would render to p class=shoutparagraphlots of stuff/p? Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt* http

Re: Rich Text support in Leo

2013-08-07 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 22:16:09 -0500 Terry Brown terry_n_br...@yahoo.com wrote: On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 19:29:58 -0400 Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: I don't get it. Everything I've ever seen tells me that RTF is an almost-opaque text format whose only real asset is it's the one way

My new document on Bluefish, HTML, and Styles Based Authoring

2013-08-07 Thread Steve Litt
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Re: Rich Text support in Leo

2013-08-06 Thread Steve Litt
don't know what the Linux equivalent would be. Which leads to the final question: Are any of you writing books in Leo? Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance -- You received this message because you

Does any of you use Leo to author your books?

2013-08-06 Thread Steve Litt
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Re: Web Site is Down

2013-08-02 Thread Steve Litt
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Re: Outline to executable?

2012-09-26 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 07:42:48 -0500, Edward K. Ream said: On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 6:03 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: I'm not sure if I heard wrong, confabulated some memory or what, but somewhere I got the impression that you could outline a computer program in Leo

Outline to executable?

2012-09-24 Thread Steve Litt
forms and picklists, and the interaction between the two, and then press the button and have the app work? Can you also outline database interactions. Thanks SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ * http://twitter.com/stevelitt

Re: [Vimoutliner] VO crew -- I just subscribed to the Leo Googlegroup

2012-05-18 Thread Steve Litt
GUI only because it requires Qt (well, actually it can use Tk in certain limited cases, but it always needs one of the two). SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ * http://twitter.com/stevelitt Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance

Better guidance to enlarging Leo's font?

2012-05-18 Thread Steve Litt
comments in @data qt-gui-plugin-style-sheet, as well as an Absolute Newbie's Section in the quickstart, which contains absolutely nothing about using Leo for programming. Thanks SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ * http://twitter.com

Re: [Vimoutliner] Re: MaxThink functionality in Vim Outliner

2012-05-18 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 18 May 2012 05:11:57 -0500, Noel Henson said: Matej, My old friend, nice to hear from you! You're the one that prompted me on so when VO was in development. You created the original Percent Done features. What you say had some truth in it. Bin sorting and some of the other features

Re: [Vimoutliner] Re: MaxThink functionality in Vim Outliner

2012-05-18 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 18 May 2012 15:53:29 +0200, Matej Cepl said: On 18.5.2012 12:48, Steve Litt wrote: 1) Will VO developers have sufficient commitment to lasso the Vim engine into doing things it was never intended to do? How will Leo work via ssh? ssh -X How will Leo work on my Android phone

Re: What name to you like? @auto-otl, @auto-vo or @auto-vim

2012-05-18 Thread Steve Litt
exactly. EKR Not only that, at this point we can't be sure that the VO community will adopt Leo as the next thing, so I agree the more generic @auto-otl would be best. SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ * http://twitter.com/stevelitt