Christian Lohmaier wrote:
> A proposal for such common URL has been
> hub.libreoffice.org/?optional=parameters&like=version&and=distribution
>
Yep, recall that - wanna work on this, you seem to have spent quite
some thought on it already?
Cheers,
-- Thorsten
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Hi Thorsten, *,
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Thorsten Behrens
wrote:
> Michael Meeks wrote:
>>
>> + bugzilla submission assistant - lots of work currently
>> + pending integration of link in the help menu for 3.5
>> AA: + get a permanant re-direction link for bug
Michael Meeks wrote:
> + cleanup old test build server directories (Thorsten)
>
This is done - there were beta0 builds from the Linux/Windows
Release config still around, but since beta0 was not so nice anyway
... ;)
> + 3.4.5 - tag delayed by two days
> + builds already
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Christian Lohmaier
wrote:
> Hi *,
>
> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Michael Meeks wrote:
>> QA awesome git bibi fun (Bjoern)
>> [...]
>> + Norbert to investigate it working on Mac, will it bloat up
>> + have to copy images, not DMGs
>
> DM
Hi *,
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Michael Meeks wrote:
> QA awesome git bibi fun (Bjoern)
> [...]
> + Norbert to investigate it working on Mac, will it bloat up
> + have to copy images, not DMGs
DMGs are the images (disk images, similar to a iso, i.e. an
in-file filesy
* Present:
+ Rainer, Michael Stahl, Christian, Norbert, Cor Nouws,
Bjoern, Lionel, Stephan, Eike, Kendy, Caolan, Cedric,
Petr, Lubos
* Completed Action Items
+ create 'lightproof' git repo on freedesktop for Laszlo (Michael)
+ review pending labels patch
On Thu, 2011-12-08 at 16:19 +, Michael Meeks wrote:
> * gtk3 backend
> + change the configure to default to 'on' for this
> + not feasible to build on our legacy machines
So - just to wind Fridrich up ;-) I had a wonderful idea of making a
'stubify' perl script that would
* Present:
+ Rainer, Stephan, Eike, Fridrich, Norbert, Kendy, Mitch,
Bjoern, Michael, Tor, Lionel, Caolan, Cedric, Thorsten,
Andras, Kohei
* Completed Action Items
+ python/wizards merge for 3.5 & strip old versions (Michael)
+ send Monty mail about othe
On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 10:08:51AM +, Michael Meeks wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 01:49 +0100, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote:
>> Note that we still (maybe?) have a GPL problem with using the C++
>> connector. Maybe, because MySQL stuff used to not be straight-GPL,
>> but GPL + exceptions for open
Hi Lionel,
On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 01:49 +0100, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote:
> 1) Change configure.in to detect / use the MariaDB lib instead of /
>alternatively to the MySQL C Connector. I see not reason not to
>leave people the choice;
Makes sense.
> Note that we still (maybe?) have
On Thu, Dec 01, 2011 at 10:35:45PM +0100, Alex Thurgood wrote:
> Le 01/12/2011 17:21, Michael Meeks a écrit :
>>* MariaDB intro (Monty)
>> + original MySQL company& product creator
>> + MariaDB increasingly visible in the market& featureful
>> + 100% drop-in replacement for C conn
On Thu, Dec 01, 2011 at 04:21:09PM +, Michael Meeks wrote:
> * MariaDB intro (Monty)
> + 100% drop-in replacement for C connector
> + identical protocol, fully interoperable
> + MariaDB adds extra stuff, but handshakes first
> + client-side is ABI compat
Le 01/12/2011 17:21, Michael Meeks a écrit :
* MariaDB intro (Monty)
+ original MySQL company& product creator
+ MariaDB increasingly visible in the market& featureful
+ 100% drop-in replacement for C connector
+ identical protocol, fully interoperable
Michael Meeks wrote (01-12-11 17:21)
* QA Update (Rainer)
+ Cor to organise a bug-hunting session for B1 next weekend.
Working to get some support :-)
Cheers,
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- Cor
- http://nl.libreoffice.org
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Hi Michael,
On Thursday, 2011-12-01 16:21:09 +, Michael Meeks wrote:
> * DateTime default constructor fix (Eike)
> + looses ~500 places to call gettimeofday by mistake
umm.. would be nice, but.. seems that didn't come across correctly.
There are about 100 places out of 400, I'll come u
* Present:
+ Eike, Rainer, Andras, David, Lionel, Stephan, August
Bjoern, Norbert, Caolan, Kendy, Petr, Mitch, Michael S.
Tor, Kohei, Cedric, Monty
* Completed Action Items
+ help out Lionel with a deeper dive into fdo#39950 (Caolan)
+ flatten un-maintai
On 25/11/11 15:13, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 11:20:50AM +0100, Michael Stahl wrote:
>> DISPLAY=:42 ./soffice "--accept=pipe,name=$USER;urp;" --norestore
>> --nologo -env:UserInstallation=file:///tmp/xyz
> instead of that monster you cant now run:
>
> make debugrun
>
On Fri, 2011-11-25 at 15:17 +0100, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
> > * Pending Action Items
> >+ ask Christian wrt. Mac / PPC (Fridrich)
>
> As I keep seeing this without being aware of any mail/question
> regarding this - Is that Christian me? I'd guess so since I run the
> Mac/PPC tinderbox
Hi *,
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Michael Meeks wrote:
>
> * Pending Action Items
> + ask Christian wrt. Mac / PPC (Fridrich)
As I keep seeing this without being aware of any mail/question
regarding this - Is that Christian me? I'd guess so since I run the
Mac/PPC tinderbox, but... :
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 11:20:50AM +0100, Michael Stahl wrote:
> DISPLAY=:42 ./soffice "--accept=pipe,name=$USER;urp;" --norestore
> --nologo -env:UserInstallation=file:///tmp/xyz
instead of that monster you cant now run:
make debugrun
on Linux(*), which ...
> then attach gdb to soffice.bi
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 11:20:50AM +0100, Michael Stahl wrote:
> the way i've always debugged it is something like:
>
> DISPLAY=:42 ./soffice "--accept=pipe,name=$USER;urp;" --norestore
> --nologo -env:UserInstallation=file:///tmp/xyz
>
> then attach gdb to soffice.bin
>
> then run subsequentt
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 08:58:06AM +, Caolán McNamara wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-11-24 at 23:38 +0100, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote:
> > However, we are not so much interested in interactively working with
> > soffice in the subsequenttest.
>
> Rather than return to the 60s ...
Yeah, Baby, yeah!
*SCNR
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 09:48:22AM +, Michael Meeks wrote:
> So - (for me) the only missing piece now is the ability to quickly (ie.
> < 12 minutes) get back to running precisely the failing test;
>
> Is it easy / possible to print a message at the end (after all this
> goodness) s
On 24/11/11 21:23, Caolán McNamara wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-11-24 at 16:26 +, Michael Meeks wrote:
>> + subsequentcheck
>> + number of ways to improve it (Caolan)
the way i've always debugged it is something like:
DISPLAY=:42 ./soffice "--accept=pipe,name=$USER;urp;" --norest
Hi Bjoern,
On Fri, 2011-11-25 at 05:56 +0100, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote:
> One allnigher later, its to late for opinions. Implemented with:
This looks like a real improvement, that will make subsequentcheck much
more useful, and me (at least) more likely to care about running it :-)
> Stil
On Thu, 2011-11-24 at 23:38 +0100, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote:
> However, we are not so much interested in interactively working with
> soffice in the subsequenttest.
Rather than return to the 60s I'd still like to have an interactive
debugger :-)
C.
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Bjoern Michaelsen wrote:
> However, we are not so much interested in interactively working with
> soffice in the subsequenttest. So how about a very old fashioned and
> almost forgotten way to debug: creating a core dump!
>
> For bonus points one could then eve
On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 20:23:22 +
Caolán McNamara wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-11-24 at 16:26 +, Michael Meeks wrote:
> > + Bjoern has a nice write-up of how to debug it here:
> i.e. sommat like
> a) just move that out of dev-tools into bin or solenv/bin
> b) tweak it to honour $COLORTERM/$TERM
On Thu, 2011-11-24 at 16:26 +, Michael Meeks wrote:
> + subsequentcheck
> + number of ways to improve it (Caolan)
> + Bjoern has a nice write-up of how to debug it here:
i.e. sommat like
a) just move that out of dev-tools into bin or solenv/bin
b) tweak it to honour $
* Present:
+ Thorsten, Stephan, Mitch, Eike, Andras, David,
Bjoern, Kendy, Caolan, Michael S, Petr, Rainer,
Lionel, Tor, Markus
* Completed Action Items:
+ add merged msi details to 3.5 release page (Andras)
+ add unexpected mingw regressions to MingW 'm
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Michael Meeks wrote:
>
> * consistent tinderbox naming scheme (Thorsten, Norbert)
> + Pedro Lino suggested that
> + names turning up in other scripts
> + seems that it might make it easier for the QA guys, if
> the names began with the t
* Present:
+ Eike, Bjoern, Andras, Michael, Tor, Norbert, Stephan,
Caolan, Kohei, Michael S, Thorsten, Lionel, Mitch
* Completed Action Items
+ add easy hack to kill PRODUCT in favour of DBG_UTIL (Bjoern)
+ ask wrt. hacking php to improve easy-hacks presentation (
Hi,
On 2011-11-10 at 17:34 +, Michael Meeks wrote:
> + ideally, done as a patch
> + needs windows experimentation etc.
> + where does 'assert' output on windows go ?
When we hit an assert on Windows, it shows a message box with the
message + file + lineno, a
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Michael Meeks wrote:
> * Make binfilter depend on tail_build
> + not a big issue, will happen as/when needed or someone wants that.
> + other modules prevent that currently; cf. 'extensions'
Errata: other module are on the critical path for merging
* Present:
+ Norbert, Eike, David, Stephan, Michael, Bjoern, Andras,
Petr, Caolan, Thorsten, Cedric, Fridrich, Tor, Christian
* Completed Action Items
+ rotate top #10 easy-hacks on front-page (Bjoern)
+ poke UI / Translation issue bug#42388 (Andras)
2011/11/3 Michael Meeks :
> * QA update (Rainer)
> + problems with UI translations for Farsi / Arabian
> AA: + chase it down cf. bug#42388 (Andras)
I made a comment and closed the bug. It is not a bug that we can fix,
translation is missing. Farsi is at ~50%. OTOH Arabic is at 9
* Present:
+ Stephan, David, Eike, Andras, Norbert, Rainer, Caolan,
Cedric, Petr, Fridrich, Kohei, Kendy, Michael
* Completed Action Items
+ review Noel's OLE automation fix for 3.4.4 (Petr)
+ package Liberation fonts on Win32 (Fridrich)
* Pending Action Items
Present:
+ Eike, Michael, Thorsten, Stephan, Andras, Fridrich, Kendy,
Tor, David, Norbert, Rainer, Michael S, Bjoern, Caolan,
Petr
* Completed Action Items
+ adding l10n code is currently done by pair of VB Scripts
need to grok & port these to a better
On 10/21/2011 03:57 PM, Michael Meeks wrote:
On Fri, 2011-10-21 at 14:51 +0200, Stephan Bergmann wrote:
That would of course mean shipping some
duplicate legacy MSVC++ compiled libraries, but ... surely do-able.
It would not suffice to ship them, one would also need to build them.
Kind of back
On Fri, 2011-10-21 at 14:51 +0200, Stephan Bergmann wrote:
> > That would of course mean shipping some
> > duplicate legacy MSVC++ compiled libraries, but ... surely do-able.
>
> It would not suffice to ship them, one would also need to build them.
> Kind of back to square one.
For wind
On 10/21/2011 10:39 AM, Michael Meeks wrote:
Hi Kevin,
On Thu, 2011-10-20 at 20:06 -0400, Kevin Hunter wrote:
From the wiki page, one of the concerns is "binary incompatibility". I
assume this is in reference to extensions?
Sure; of course we only export a reasonably small ABI, th
On 10/21/2011 11:08 AM, Kevin Hunter wrote:
At 4:11am -0400 Fri, 21 Oct 2011, Stephan Bergmann wrote:
On 10/21/2011 02:06 AM, Kevin Hunter wrote:
5. That API definition will be a *lot* of work, but hopefully somewhat
thought out already through only a mild reengineering of the current
binary AP
At 4:11am -0400 Fri, 21 Oct 2011, Stephan Bergmann wrote:
On 10/21/2011 02:06 AM, Kevin Hunter wrote:
5. That API definition will be a *lot* of work, but hopefully somewhat
thought out already through only a mild reengineering of the current
binary API.
The UNO API is already there. Or what do
At 4:39am -0400 Fri, 21 Oct 2011, Michael Meeks wrote:
[one /could/ work toward interprocess extensions ... ] But of course,
I personally think there is much lower hanging fruit in the calc core
;-)
Noted and agreed! I'm just sticking my nose in all things LO, probably
stepping on toes as I d
Hi Kevin,
On Thu, 2011-10-20 at 20:06 -0400, Kevin Hunter wrote:
> From the wiki page, one of the concerns is "binary incompatibility". I
> assume this is in reference to extensions?
Sure; of course we only export a reasonably small ABI, the 'ure' (big
chunks of which are in-lined C++
On 10/21/2011 02:06 AM, Kevin Hunter wrote:
At 4:52pm -0400 Thu, 20 Oct 2011, Michael Meeks wrote:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/LibreOffice4
+ getting stuck into Windows / mingw build etc.
From the wiki page, one of the concerns is "binary incompatibility". I
assume this
At 4:52pm -0400 Thu, 20 Oct 2011, Michael Meeks wrote:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/LibreOffice4
+ getting stuck into Windows / mingw build etc.
From the wiki page, one of the concerns is "binary incompatibility". I
assume this is in reference to
Present:
+ Stephan, Petr, Michael, Andras, Mitch, Thorster, Rainer,
Michael Stahl, Caolan, Tor, Kendy, Eike, Bjoern, Norbert
* Completed Action Items
+ publicise our list of ODF proposals / extensions (Thorsten)
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/ODF
+ Present:
+ Thorsten, Andras, Michael M, Stephan, Tor, Rainer,
Mitch, Norbert, Kendy, Michael S, Bjoern, Caolan, Petr
+ Completed
+ add ABI related re-factoring plans to wiki [ on going / indeterminate
]
at: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Libre
Present:
+ Norbert, Thorsten, Michael, Stephan, Andras,
David, Rainer, Mitch, Bjoern, Caolan
+ Completed Action Items
+ spec. for beefier gerrit machine -> sysadmin team (Bjoern)
+ Pending Action Items
+ default to TM safe (non-TDF) branding (Thorsten)
+
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 5:16 AM, Jan Holesovsky wrote:
> Hi Cor,
>
> Cor Nouws píše v Út 13. 09. 2011 v 00:26 +0200:
>
>> > + Release mgmt (Petr)
>> > + concern wrt. bugs in master - need some focus there
>> > + no more releases until after the conference
>>
>> A pit
Hi Cor,
Cor Nouws píše v Út 13. 09. 2011 v 00:26 +0200:
> > + Release mgmt (Petr)
> > + concern wrt. bugs in master - need some focus there
> > + no more releases until after the conference
>
>A pity since 3.4.3 has at least one nasty regression.
Regression again
Present:
+ Norbert, Rainer, Michael, Mitch, Andras, Cedric,
Thorsten, David, Bjoern, Petr, Kohei
+ Completed Action Items
+ write substance of what is needed wrt. the extensions
& templates announce & send to Florian (Andreas)
+ New extensions website: p
Michael Meeks wrote (08-09-11 17:28)
+ Release mgmt (Petr)
+ concern wrt. bugs in master - need some focus there
+ no more releases until after the conference
A pity since 3.4.3 has at least one nasty regression.
--
- Cor
- http://nl.libreoffice.or
On Thu, 2011-09-08 at 16:28 +0100, Michael Meeks wrote:
> AA: + give mdds website / commit rights out more diversly
> (Kohei)
This is already done. Now Caolan and David should have the same rights
as I do.
Kohei
--
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Present:
+ Norbert, David, Stephan, Cedric, Thorsten,
Andras, Bjoern, Rainer, Michael, Kohei, Caolan
+ Completed Action Items
+ get Bjoern setup with a vhost for gerrit (Thorsten / Christian)
+ playground already constructed / public:
at
Michael Meeks wrote (06-09-11 17:56)
As you have seen, I posted some overview on
the subject to the list two days ago
I didn't see that,
(no wonder, it was a Sunday evening ;-) )
any chance of a re-send; if you give enough details
no doubt we can discuss it ourselves, thoug
Hi Cor,
On Tue, 2011-09-06 at 07:16 +0200, Cor Nouws wrote:
> So thanks for putting this at the agenda. (But of course note that it is
> not stated fully correct.) As you have seen, I posted some overview on
> the subject to the list two days ago
I didn't see that, any chance of a re-sen
Michael Meeks wrote (01-09-11 16:55)
* Agenda items
+ request to move 3.5.x feature-freeze forward (Cor)
So thanks for putting this at the agenda. (But of course note that it is
not stated fully correct.)
As you have seen, I posted some overview on the subject to the list two
days ag
Present:
+ Norbert, Andras, Bjoern, Petr, Kendy, Caolan,
Rainer, Stephan, Kohei, Michael
+ Finished Action Items
+ in-progress: setup gerrit a test repo (Bjoern)
+ in-progress: disable .po file editing hook: only to be used in
translations (Norbert)
+ add
On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 11:14 +0100, Caolán McNamara wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 11:59 +0200, Andras Timar wrote:
> > wope reproduced it under openSUSE 11.4, see
> > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37195#c32
>
> "I don't ask why patients lie, I just assume they all do." :-)
My worki
On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 11:59 +0200, Andras Timar wrote:
> wope reproduced it under openSUSE 11.4, see
> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37195#c32
"I don't ask why patients lie, I just assume they all do." :-)
C.
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2011/8/26 Caolán McNamara :
> On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 18:05 +0100, Michael Meeks wrote:
>> + intermittent(?) dictionary loss in 3.4.3
>> + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37195
>> + most annoying for testers:
>>
On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 18:05 +0100, Michael Meeks wrote:
> + intermittent(?) dictionary loss in 3.4.3
> + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37195
> + most annoying for testers:
> + who do a lots of upg
+ Present:
+ Norbert, Rainer, Bjoern, Thorsten, Petr, Kendy,
Andreas, Caolan, Michael (late)
+ Completed Action items:
+ script that downloads the git sources for you (Norbert) done
+ drop: conference paper: onegit / tinderbox (Norbert)
+ dig up suitable M
* Present:
+ Norbert, David, Rainer, Bjoern, Kendy, Kohei,
Caolan, Petr, Cedric, Lubos, Michael, Mitch
+ Completed Action Items:
+ get SmartArt interop. feature into master (Thorsten)
+ easy hacks - completion / fixing (Bjoern)
+ looks pretty: eg.
Present:
+ Norbert, Mitch, David, Kendy, Andras, Michael,
Caolan, Rainer, Bjoern, Fridrich, Petr
* Completed Action Items
+ implementing vertical text with Cairo (Caolan)
+ manual / wiki page for using nightlies (Rainer)
+ windows snapshot builds are reall
>
>> (I would also suggest release on Thursday so that feedback from
>> the second week-end have a chance to be fixed before the next release)
>
> Marketing wise, release on Thursday is risky, because one day later (what
> happens) makes it Friday..
The important release, marketing wise, is the Fi
Hi Michael,
Michael Meeks wrote (27-06-11 12:47)
On Sat, 2011-06-25 at 23:52 +0200, Cor Nouws wrote:
And indeed, I see no reason why that would be a natural thing happening.
If there is a moment that we know: QA on this build is important, do
this ... that will help focussing :-)
So
Norbert Thiebaud wrote (26-06-11 01:16)
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Cor Nouws wrote:
Therefore I argue that it would not be fair
to decide on 7 weeks from the deadline, that it is shortened by 3 or 4
weeks.
Sure, but delaying the Release Date by 3 or 4 weeks will not be fair
to downstre
Hi Norbert, all,
(sorry for the delay, but of course we all have our mail archives in
order ;-) )
Norbert Thiebaud wrote (26-06-11 00:59)
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Cor Nouws wrote:
The more QA, people, the faster it goes, of course. But that is another
matter.
And of course, QA has
Present:
Andras, Michael, Mitch, Rainer, Caolan,
Rene, Petr, Francois, Cedric, Bjoern
* Completed action items
+ review Norbert's updated C app (Kendy, Tor)
* Pending Action Items:
+ Easy Hacks - completion / fixing (Bjoern)
+ in-progress: get SmartArt into
On 20/06/2011 Michael Meeks wrote:
> We need people who in addition to coping with the tedium of reacting to
> the security issues, providing fixes and testing them on older branches
> - also like to write them up.
> > This is an important factor for people considering to upgrade their
> > cu
Michael Meeks schrieb:
>Oh - well - since master is going to turn into 3.5, if that is not
> parallel installing, then we have a problem
Hi,
I believe most testers can live with every behavior, but behavior must
be predictable. We ned some Help (Wiki: QA/DailyBuilds) with exact
descriptio
Michael Meeks wrote:
>
> Oh - well - since master is going to turn into 3.5, if that is not
> parallel installing, then we have a problem - is it the case that the
> 3.5 (master) snapshots - whatever we call them version-wise [ what do we
> do there ? ] do not parallel install on windows st
Hi Michael, *,
On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Michael Meeks wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-06-27 at 07:19 -0700, plino wrote:
>> That may be true for other OSes but not for Windows. Once LO gets to 3.5.x
>> that will (hopefully) be a correct statement.
>
> Oh - well - since master is going to tur
Hi there,
On Mon, 2011-06-27 at 07:19 -0700, plino wrote:
> That may be true for other OSes but not for Windows. Once LO gets to 3.5.x
> that will (hopefully) be a correct statement.
Oh - well - since master is going to turn into 3.5, if that is not
parallel installing, then we have a pro
On Fri, 2011-06-24 at 19:21 -0500, Norbert Thiebaud wrote:
> As caolan said in another post, 'master' should no be seen as
> 'unstable'. 'master' should be seen as the latest version about to be
> released... Sure there will be time when master breaks... but that
> should be rare and short-lived.
Petr Mladek wrote:
>
> It is well recommended to use daily builds from
> http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/. They include the very last
> fixes and can be installed in parallel with the announced builds.
>
That may be true for other OSes but not for Windows. Once LO gets to 3.5.x
that wil
Cor Nouws píše v Pá 24. 06. 2011 v 08:43 +0200:
> plino wrote (24-06-11 02:03)
> > BTW since only Betas can be installed in parallel with the stable build
> > under Windows and that was not added to the 3.4.x branch (at least from my
> > understanding) I guess Windows Beta testers will have to wait
Hi Cor,
On Sat, 2011-06-25 at 23:52 +0200, Cor Nouws wrote:
> And indeed, I see no reason why that would be a natural thing happening.
> If there is a moment that we know: QA on this build is important, do
> this ... that will help focussing :-)
So :-) now is this moment. It is importan
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Cor Nouws wrote:
>
> Therefore I argue that it would not be fair
> to decide on 7 weeks from the deadline, that it is shortened by 3 or 4
> weeks.
Sure, but delaying the Release Date by 3 or 4 weeks will not be fair
to downstream either
The calendar was worked out
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Cor Nouws wrote:
>> [...]
>
> ( Now I snip a whole lot of words from you with valuable aspects of
> QA<>developmet etc.
Yeah, sometime I tend to to suffer from logorrhea :-)
>
>
>>> The more QA, people, the faster it goes, of course. But that is another
>>> matte
Hi Norbert, *,
Norbert Thiebaud wrote (25-06-11 02:21)
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Cor Nouws wrote:
Do misunderstand the meaning of 'freezing'? I understand it as the point
from where only bug fixes are allowed to the branch.
So a longer time frame without large clean-up, re-factoring,
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Cor Nouws wrote:
>> Indeed - by freezing earlier we could potentially make things worse
>> ;-)
>
> Warning: you're going to loose me completely in the next paragraph.
>
>> because QA will not have started at all, and thus there will apparently
>> be no bugs
Hi Michael,
Michael Meeks wrote (24-06-11 10:52)
On Fri, 2011-06-24 at 01:09 +0200, Cor Nouws wrote:
Apologies for that - but it was about what I expected. (Have to try to
focus on making a living during the day-hours ;-) )
Sure, sure ...
+ extend the feature-freeze period
Hi Cor,
On Fri, 2011-06-24 at 01:09 +0200, Cor Nouws wrote:
> Apologies for that - but it was about what I expected. (Have to try to
> focus on making a living during the day-hours ;-) )
Sure, sure ...
> > + extend the feature-freeze period for 3.5 ?
> > + Norbert: may n
On Fri, 2011-06-24 at 01:11 +0200, Cor Nouws wrote:
> > * Posting TSC minutes on the blog ...
> > + Norbert: wording is very terse, not enough context, not suitable
> > for mass public consumption.
> > + Suggestion: needs to be expanded, and made more comprehensible,
> > someon
Michael @ OP - awesome set of notes!
Cor @
> I only can point to my favourite page:
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel
Even though I have two build configs (3.4 and master), OOo3.2 and the 3.4
release installed, I have been frustrated in doing full triage/testing and
o
Cor Nouws wrote (24-06-11 09:21)
I know no evidence that Windows (users) is (are) not taken seriously.
I think it will help if people try more serious to improve on where we
are, also with QA/testing, rather then complain.
Hmm, while slicing an excellent mango (hmm ;-) , my thoughts drifted to
plino wrote (24-06-11 09:03)
Cor Nouws wrote:
Well, I don't see any betas coming for the 3.4.x branch, so whether is
has been added or not, does not make sense.
Unless TDF is going to adopt the absurd Chrome (and now Firefox) version
model, the next version should be 3.5.0 indeed.
Hmm - apa
Cor Nouws wrote:
>
> Well, I don't see any betas coming for the 3.4.x branch, so whether is
> has been added or not, does not make sense.
>
Unless TDF is going to adopt the absurd Chrome (and now Firefox) version
model, the next version should be 3.5.0 indeed. I guess we (Windows users)
will h
Hi Pedro,
plino wrote (24-06-11 02:03)
Cor Nouws wrote:
Plus - especially with the unfortunate experience from 3.4.0, and to do
something good for users, testers, marketing etc - IMO it is better that
in the end we have three weeks extra, than that we lack three days.
So I would really love to
Cor Nouws wrote:
>
> Plus - especially with the unfortunate experience from 3.4.0, and to do
> something good for users, testers, marketing etc - IMO it is better that
> in the end we have three weeks extra, than that we lack three days.
> So I would really love to be on the save side ..
>
Th
Hi Norbert,
Norbert Thiebaud wrote (24-06-11 01:32)
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Cor Nouws wrote:
Michael Meeks wrote (23-06-11 20:27)
* Posting TSC minutes on the blog ...
+ Norbert: wording is very terse, not enough context, not suitable
for mass public consumption.
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Cor Nouws wrote:
> Michael Meeks wrote (23-06-11 20:27)
>
>> * Posting TSC minutes on the blog ...
>> + Norbert: wording is very terse, not enough context, not suitable
>> for mass public consumption.
>> + Suggestion: needs to be expanded, an
Michael Meeks wrote (23-06-11 20:27)
* Posting TSC minutes on the blog ...
+ Norbert: wording is very terse, not enough context, not suitable
for mass public consumption.
+ Suggestion: needs to be expanded, and made more comprehensible,
someone who wants that
Hi *,
Michael Meeks wrote (23-06-11 20:27)
* Release quality / complaints ... (Cor / Italo / Olivier)
+ presenters not present
Apologies for that - but it was about what I expected. (Have to try to
focus on making a living during the day-hours ;-) )
+ extend the feature-fr
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 07:27:36PM +0100, Michael Meeks wrote:
>
> * Completed AA's
> + kill Adabas integration dead in master (Francois)
> + disabled for a release, removed next release
I have found no evidence it is still used, but there still may be people
living under a ro
Attendees:
+ Michael, Caolan, Kendy, Andreas, Rainer, Timar,
Tor, Thorsten, Petr, Francois, Norbert, Cedric
* Completed AA's
+ binned dlsym'd fontconfig & non-fontconfig X font code paths (Caolan)
+ avoid: completely junking gnome-vfs backend & startup hooks (Caol
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