fingering in the Staff equally incorrect?
As it is impossible to determine whether the pitch
or the fingering is wrong this should really be
classed as a syntax error - the combination is invalid.
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Graham Percival wrote Saturday, November 27, 2010 12:59 AM
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 11:31:06PM +0100, Valentin Villenave
wrote:
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Trevor Daniels
t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote:
OK; I agree. Patch looks good.
Thanks! I've pushed this patch, and merged
they are.]
Tick
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Valentin Villenave wrote Friday, November 26, 2010 5:51 PM
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Trevor Daniels
t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote:
Long entries are those who contain either more than one dash or
more
that :)
than one slash (not counting ../).
Er, are you suggesting that
@file
it automatically first, then
fix up any that stand out as poor when we notice them.
Otherwise we might have some names running over the right
margin in 2.14. Don't forget we've now lost the ones
that were done manually before - and some of them /were/
correct.
Trevor
Valentin Villenave wrote Friday, November 26, 2010 10:31 PM
Thanks! I've pushed this patch, and merged translation onto master
Great! Appreciated!
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Trevor Daniels
t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote:
Ideally, yes. But who is going to look manually through
ensures
bad breaks can't occur, even if the name is quite short.
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and discretely as possible, and pushed it elsewhere than master.
It's already been merged into master :(
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and acceptable with the
usual overrides. There is an example of the use of
cues for this purpose in the Musical cues section of
recent versions of NR 2.1.6 Vocal music.
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it not be better to define these properties using
\addInstrumentDefinition #flute ...
and then simply refer to flute in \cueDuring, as
\instrumentSwitch does?
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Tenor
\set instrumentCueName = Ten.
... % use Ten.
\unset instrumentCueName
... % use Tenor
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to be sure you're happy
with this. bf4298556820ead4deff2d667c362c2d7d045e67
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Trevor Daniels wrote Sunday, November 21, 2010 11:58 PM
Graham Percival wrote Sunday, November 21, 2010 11:18 PM
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 09:38:42AM -, Trevor Daniels wrote:
Graham Percival wrote Saturday, November 20, 2010 8:40 PM
Who wants to edit the CG for this? James is away
This is the second time this has come up recently.
Sounds like a good candidate for an enhancement request.
Trevor
- Original Message -
From: jakob lund jakob.be...@gmail.com
To: lilypond-u...@gnu.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 9:22 AM
Subject: music function
Hi
I have two
Valentin Villenave wrote Wednesday, November 17, 2010 10:47 AM
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Trevor Daniels
t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote:
Sounds like a good candidate for an enhancement request.
my brain seems to be in low-power mode today, could you help me
rephrase this request so I
-header-markup
odd-footer-markup
even-footer-markup
Hopefully this doesn't require much discussion.
I'd do it now if there is no objection.
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in the IR
and the documentation. See IR 3.1 which is called
All layout objects.
Grob is the name of those layout objects that actually
deal with something pictorial rather than positional.
No big deal, though.
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Trevor Daniels wrote Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:34 PM
Keith E OHara wrote Monday, October 18, 2010 11:40 PM
I suggest (diff attached) removing the part about
instrumentCueName in favor of a fuller example for \killCues.
The manual teaches markup elsewhere; the challenge with cue-note
Mark Polesky wrote Monday, November 08, 2010 1:24 AM
Instead of these two:
withingroup-staff-staff-spacing
staffgroup-staff-spacing
Let's stay with these.
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Reinhold Kainhofer wrote Monday, November 08, 2010 12:09 AM
Am Sonntag, 7. November 2010, um 20:46:54 schrieb Trevor Daniels:
I think this would be an improvement, but I don't think it's
essential. The file will be left in an erroneous state so
the user will be forced into further
Valentin Villenave wrote Monday, November 08, 2010 11:16 AM
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Trevor Daniels
t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote:
There might even be an argument for adding something
which made compilation fail - in a way that clearly
indicated the problem, of course.
Bold idea
option -- just remove the withingroup
prefix altogether:
\override StaffGrouper #'staff-staff-spacing
\override StaffGrouper #'staffgroup-staff-spacing
Thoughts?
LGTM
(As I've said before, I admire your persistence :)
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an improvement over existing wording. All I have is a
preference,
nothing stronger. Others have other preferences, and, having stated
my
case, I'm happy to go along with the majority view.
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? I prefer both to use the same noun.
Yes, it would.
I think the choice between the two comes down to how
the descriptive text looks. At present I have no
clear preference.
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is a but a touch more padding from
Lyrics to any non-associated grobs on the next staff.
Maybe right, but has anyone really tested all the different forms of
lyrics yet?
There might be no unique best default settings.
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remain open and transparent to the end.
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From: Mark Polesky markpole...@yahoo.com
To: lilypond-devel lilypond-devel@gnu.org; Carl Sorensen
c_soren...@byu.edu; Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk
Cc: Joe Neeman joenee...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 8
.
I guess this would also remove a user-defined engraver-group context
named Dynamics too, but maybe there aren't many of those and the
comment at least will raise a flag.
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choices
above. I've already entered mine.
Carl:
David:
James:
Jan:
Jean-Charles:
Joe:
Keith:
Mark: 1
Trevor: 2
Valentin: 1*
Werner: 2
*was 2, then changed it to 1? Which one is it?
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) initial-distanceminimum-distance
3) basic-separation minimum-separation
4) initial-separation minimum-separation
Alexander:
Carl:
David:
Joe:
Mark: 1
Trevor: 4
Valentin:
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Graham Percival wrote Sunday, November 07, 2010 12:50 PM
On Sun, Nov 07, 2010 at 12:26:59PM -, Trevor Daniels wrote:
Valentin Villenave wrote Sunday, November 07, 2010 10:35 AM
I'm not sure if we've ever used convert-ly to insert comments in
.ly
files, but I do think we should
. The file will be left in an erroneous state so
the user will be forced into further investigation anyway,
and the usual LilyPond error messages will indicate what is
wrong.
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the meaning more accurately
now we have an item-item-spacing format
I vote for 8 or 9.
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Good work, Mark.
I'd prefer to see your image in the docs rather than text.
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Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 11:17 PM
Subject: solved: reference points for non-staff lines
Valentin Villenave wrote Saturday, November 06, 2010 12:00 AM
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 12:44 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org
wrote:
Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk writes:
I'd prefer to see your image in the docs rather than text.
Just be sure you look your best.
ROTFL!
Me too
Valentin Villenave wrote Thursday, November 04, 2010 12:10 AM
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 12:58 AM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote:
Renaming proposals, round 3:
CURRENT NAME PROPOSED NAMETD's PREFERENCE
Carl Sorensen wrote Wednesday, November 03, 2010 11:00 PM
On 11/3/10 2:49 PM, Mark Polesky markpole...@yahoo.com wrote:
Trevor wrote:
I wonder if affinity/nonaffinity are optimal. Are they
better than relatedstaff/unrelatedstaff?
Or target/opposite, reference/opposite, refstaff/oppstaff
! (:
2) all the ideas for between-staff so far:
* names consistent with the item1-item2 format
a) groupstaff-groupstaff (Trevor)
b) groupedstaff-groupedstaff (Trevor)
c) grouped-staff-staff (Mark)
* shorter names
d) inside-staffgroup (Mark)
e) grouped
-groupstaff-spacing ?
groupedstaff-groupedstaff-spacing ?
But I'm not unhappy with inside-staffgroup-spacing.
BTW, what happens to nonstaff lines within staff groups?
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wouldn't get bar-check warnings
displayed in this case?
The sentence was added by Carl on 9 Jul 2008, commit
86b87221fd0edf9a495e512247cb708cd6f4217a
Maybe he can remember why.
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the improved syntax this LGTM.
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Valentin Villenave wrote Wednesday, October 20, 2010 7:48 PM
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Trevor Daniels
t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote:
Many thanks for your comments. At first glance they all seem
pertinent.
I'll have a look at fixing them up tomorrow.
I've taken the liberty to apply
down to 2.1.7.
Trevor
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To: lilypond-devel@gnu.org; Trevor Daniels
t.dani...@treda.co.uk
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 5:55 PM
Subject: NR 2.1 suggestions
These are just some things that I noticed.
2.1.1 Entering
of transposing
instruments.
My suggested replacement comes from experiment and inspection of
quote-iterator.cc.
Happy to take this.
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#'direction = $dir
s1*0-\markup { \tiny $name }
$music
}
#}
)
I'm happy to push this as is. Many thanks Keith.
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Trevor Daniels wrote Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:35 PM
Keith E OHara wrote Tuesday, October 19, 2010 12:21 AM
Suggestions attached as a diff,
I'm happy to push this as is. Many thanks Keith.
Pushed to git pretty well as you suggested, Keith, and snippet
updated
in git.
Changed
Keith E OHara wrote Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:34 PM
On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 13:34:05 -0700, Trevor Daniels wrote:
If no one objects soon I shall push it.
James Lowe made comments that you might not have seen yet. I see
where he is coming from, but I hope my answer explained the
purpose
Valentin
There's a TODO in vocal.itely that I don't understand:
902 @c TODO: document \new Staff Voice \lyricsto bug
If it really is a bug then we shouldn't be documenting
it anyway, but I'd like to know what it means first.
Do you know which bug it is referring to?
Trevor
Valentin Villenave wrote Monday, October 18, 2010 1:47 PM
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Trevor Daniels
t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote:
There's a TODO in vocal.itely that I don't understand:
902 @c TODO: document \new Staff Voice \lyricsto bug
If it really is a bug then we shouldn't
Valentin Villenave wrote Sunday, October 17, 2010 4:57 PM
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 1:01 AM, Trevor Daniels
t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote:
Looks good to me. I'll confirm when the GUB
2.13.33 for Windows is available.
sorry for bumping this discussion, but: where are we wrt this
problem
and a footnote
the names of the new spacing parameters would naturally
follow the new naming pattern, although I think that change
is unlikely to happen.
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David Kastrup wrote Thursday, October 14, 2010 10:05 AM
Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk writes:
Although this is a good point, the problem is not as
stark as this might suggest. There are many situations
when writing LilyPond code when score-wide settings are
inappropriate
Valentin Villenave wrote Wednesday, October 13, 2010 4:03 PM
Hi Trevor, here's a minor patch for Vocal music. Nothing too
extraordinary so far, I quite like what you've done!
I've done about a third of the file, I plan to work on the rest
later
(though it may have to wait for a while
. Conductor scores will usually have
one system per page; vocal scores of SATB plus piano
reduction will usually have two systems per page.
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for system, as this is defined wrt the width of the
page, which is not well-defined in the docs (the image
width is less than the page width, and the page width
is variable in html).
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, and I'd like to work through them before
inviting a review of the whole chapter, although if you or anyone
else wishes to comment on the work so far I'd be happy with that
too.
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Arno Waschk wrote Wednesday, October 06, 2010 1:27 PM
why does the following:
[snip
give a small piano part (which i expected) but a normal sized
bassPart Staff?
It does give a small bassPart here (2.13.34).
What do you have in bassPart?
Trevor
Mark Polesky wrote Wednesday, October 06, 2010 4:46 PM
I also think the name 'space is misleading; I propose
'default-distance. Opinions?
I'd be happy with that change too.
Mark
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earlier examples use autobeaming in their cadenzas, so I
marked the two affected lines below, but this detail is not worth
much effort.
I fixed them anyway as you suggested
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Regardless, I prefer the consistency and predictability of
the proposed names.
Comments appreciated, thanks!
Looks a good suggestion to me, but discussion is better
deferred until GLISS is launched. Don't lose it!
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that gives dF, and
then all the separate dy's can be calculated from (1).
Units are irrelevant, as it's only the ratios of the
s's that are important.
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otherwise the whole thing is placed in a \relative block,
which doesn't work with \score.
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, I
feel that the @example is immediately readable without the
code clutter. I'll remove it if you feel strongly.
As this is the only point of this small section
I'd prefer to keep the @example.
Okay to push?
OK by me.
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in the archives
where it can be found by others.
[Graham: I know this is, or at least was, the policy, but I don't
see it in the CG.]
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it needs a separate
section heading. At the moment it appears under
The double backslash construct, whereas it applies
equally to explicitly instantiated voices. Maybe
something like Voice order?
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advice! Should it be
reworked also?
[1] I like the list of voices. Also doesn't @enumerate
introduce blank lines between items? That would spoil
it.
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Valentin Villenave wrote Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:42 AM
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Graham Percival
gra...@percival-music.ca wrote:
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Trevor Daniels
t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote:
You know, after rebuffs like this it's hardly
surprising you don't
scratch, before proposing a large change.
/fluffy
I like it! This is even more entertaining!
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rebuffs like this it's hardly
surprising you don't get many people offering to
help you. Seeing this, anyone thinking of offering
will likely think again.
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Mark Polesky wrote Sunday, September 12, 2010 7:45 PM
Is there a way to bypass the automatic obscuring of email
addresses on any of the mailing list servers?
There may be, but I think the recent discussions about
the mailing lists have made it pretty clear that the
LilyPond lists are not
this, and anyone can easily get a
gmail address.
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Trevor Daniels wrote Thursday, August 19, 2010 6:40 PM
I've finished and pushed the first pass through 2.1.7 Choral.
I'll begin work on 2.1.9 Chants hymns and psalms next.
First pass through 2.1.9 Chants etc done.
I'll look at 2.1.8 Opera
Graham Percival wrote Saturday, September 11, 2010 8:36 PM
Does anybody deal with lilypond source code on windows itself,
instead
of lilybuntu? Trevor?
I do _all_ my doc work on Windows, with a Windows
git repository. I have ubuntu available in a
VM, but it causes a significant slow-down
Graham Percival wrote Saturday, September 11, 2010 8:30 PM
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Trevor Daniels
t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote:
2.1.8 Opera and stage musicals ready for review
Err... 2.1.6 in today's current git? ok, doing so. I've
forgotten
anything else we've discussed about
Graham Percival wrote Friday, August 27, 2010 9:54 PM
Pointing a psalm
- I got a bit lost here. Could you add a @lilypond to illustrate
some
(or all) of those points (no pun intended)?
I've just pushed an expanded version of this section
with several illustrative examples.
Trevor
Trevor Daniels wrote Wednesday, September 08, 2010 12:15 AM
Graham Percival wrote Tuesday, September 07, 2010 8:14 PM
On Wed, Sep 01, 2010 at 09:15:26AM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote:
Graham Percival wrote Friday, August 27, 2010 9:54 PM
- can't you do \layout { \context { \dynamicsUp
Graham Percival wrote Wednesday, September 08, 2010 12:31 AM
On Wed, Sep 08, 2010 at 12:15:18AM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote:
Graham Percival wrote Tuesday, September 07, 2010 8:14 PM
Hmm... I'm not certain about the paper-size and indent.
Happy to remove paper size and landscape, and book
Hi Phil
Could you add a staff tag to this snippet please:
Setting system separators
Thanks
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Graham Percival wrote Wednesday, September 08, 2010 12:15 PM
On Wed, Sep 08, 2010 at 10:02:24AM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote:
The main problem is the full A4 page length, complete
with the standard lilypond footer. Landscape was
used to reduce this a bit.
I can get round the horizontal
? This
technique would be suited to dialogue which is not in strict
rhythm but which needs to be keyed into music at certain
points, usually when a sentence starts. It might need a
bit of research to work out the best way to generate
alignments. Hint: try quotes :)
Trevor
commit.
Cheers,
- Graham
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the build, or are they waiting to be
added?
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Graham Percival wrote Tuesday, September 07, 2010 8:14 PM
On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 05:50:54PM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote:
File Documentation/we-wrote.itexi referenced in WE but not
found
File Documentation/others-did.itexi referenced in WE but not
found
Are these files created
Graham Percival wrote Tuesday, September 07, 2010 8:14 PM
On Wed, Sep 01, 2010 at 09:15:26AM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote:
Graham Percival wrote Friday, August 27, 2010 9:54 PM
- do you absolutely need to use an @example rather than
@lilypond
for
the page-separator-markup ?
That said, we
- the problem created by the fix has no
workaround.
Yes, I see the problem...
Should be fixed in git now.
Looks good to me. I'll confirm when the GUB
2.13.33 for Windows is available.
Thanks, Reinhold!
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Alexander Kobel wrote Saturday, September 04, 2010 11:11 AM
On 2010-09-04 00:35, Trevor Daniels wrote:
Am Freitag, 3. September 2010, um 22:49:50 schrieb -Eluze:
my command was: lilypond -V -dinclude-settings
c:\data\ly\includes\myTestInit.ly test.ly
what is wrong?
No idea. Your file
there? If so,
delete it and try again. If that works I'll
explain why :)
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To: eluze elu...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 12:08 AM
Subject: Re: -dinclude-settings=INCLUDEFILE.ly
eluze wrote Saturday, September 04, 2010 10:36 PM
thanks Trevor - that works
-settings=includes/testInit.ly
test4.ly
It also works if I use a backslash, but it generates the warning:
programming error: file name not normalized: includes\testInit.ly
continuing, cross fingers
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{ \dynamicsUp }} ? After
mentioning
\dynamicsUp, it feels really weird to see the arcane \override
command
in there.
No, it seems predefs are not permitted in \context
blocks:
D:/Users/Trevor/Leisure/Music/LilyPond/Tests/test4.ly:9:6:
error: syntax error, unexpected MUSIC_IDENTIFIER
\dynamicUp
, but by itself it's a bit confusing.
Again, in GDP style I'd make a special note of this and come back
to
it in a day or two.
I've just pushed a change for this. There are no
other references to any of the three subsections
of Expressive marks so it was easy to do.
Trevor
by number.
Comments?
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Reinhold Kainhofer wrote Sunday, August 29, 2010 8:33 PM
Thanks, Trevor, for you bisecting... The culprit is actually not
the
refactoring, but a bug fix I did before the refactoring (commit
4da9fc65cbf74f4cbbdb01add4d5f341a16f5065 at 10.06.10 13:01).
The problem I fixed with it was quite
Graham Percival wrote Monday, August 30, 2010 12:02 AM
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 11:25:47PM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote:
I have to copy an old version of
lilypondbook into every new release in order to get
a working version. We can't expect users to do that.
I'm confused about what's going
Graham Percival wrote Sunday, August 29, 2010 9:48 PM
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 07:09:01PM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote:
I think we need to reorganise the first few sections
of Vocal a little.
I like it. You have slightly more inside 2.1.1 than I would have
initially guessed, but I've
Graham Percival wrote Friday, August 27, 2010 9:54 PM
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Trevor Daniels
t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote:
First pass through 2.1.9 Choral done.
I'll look at 2.1.8 Opera and stage musicals next.
Any chance you could look over and comment on 2.1.7 and 2.1.9
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However, I'm now back to my original problem first reported
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