Re: Manual engraving video

2006-11-21 Thread Joseph Haig
On 21/11/06, Cesar Penagos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Lilyponders! I wan to advice you that is an excellent video of the art of manual engraving in You Toube; you have to take a look of this excellent work. You can see it, at: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q8adEIMzbso Note the second comm

Re: lily doc in french ?

2006-11-21 Thread Frédéric Bron
I may participate a bit if a project is started and there is no software difficulty (I do not own my own PC, I work with Windows+Cygwin, I am not administrator and I do not fully control the firewall...). Fred Jean-marc LEGRAND a écrit : Hi all ! Two years have passed, and I'm still wonde

Re: lily doc in french ?

2006-11-21 Thread Mats Bengtsson
You need a TeX installation and on top of that you need a fresh version of texinfo, to be able to get the HTML version. However, it's probably tricky to process the documentation using the Makefiles in the LilyPond source code directory structure, without building also the software (which involv

Re: TrillSpanner problem in 2.10

2006-11-21 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Are you sure that the example worked in version 2.8? I tried to process the code you sent with 2.8 and got an error message saying ERROR: Unbound variable: trillflat so I guess that it's only the error message that has changed. Another option is that you had a line with something like trillflat

Re: ly:wide-char->utf-8

2006-11-21 Thread Mats Bengtsson
In addition to the answers you have already received, it should be noted that this instruction in the manual is obsolete for version 2.10. A better way to access a Unicode character by number is \markup \char ##x2014 /Mats Quoting Johan Vromans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hi, According to the doc

Re: Beaming strategy

2006-11-21 Thread Johan Vromans
[Quoting Mats Bengtsson, on November 20 2006, 12:01, in "Re: Beaming strategy"] > If you look into printed scores from your bookshelf, I wouldn't > be surprised if you found that they mostly use the same typesetting > practice as LilyPond does. >From my bookshelf, I estimate 2/3 of the books are

Re: changing proportional notation duration in mid-line

2006-11-21 Thread Orm Finnendahl
Am 20. November 2006, 11:50 Uhr (-0600) schrieb Trevor Bača: > > Additionally, as of the 2.9 series there's a \newSpacingSection > command available that might be useful if the spacing characteristics > of the piece change for a define period of time. The 2.10 NEWS file > gives an example. Thanks

Re: Harp fingering and lever

2006-11-21 Thread Helge Kruse
Walter, thanks for reply. When I first seen the Analysis Bracket I didnt realized its strength. But I need to tweek some properties (direction, bracket-flare). I am a lilypond beginner and dont know, where I have to \set them. Can you give me short example? I will have a further look at the

Re: Beaming strategy

2006-11-21 Thread Mats Bengtsson
If you look into printed scores from your bookshelf, I wouldn't be surprised if you found that they mostly use the same typesetting practice as LilyPond does. Note that 16th notes and quicker are split into 4 beams per measure in common time, it's only 8th notes that are grouped into 2 beams per m

Re: ly:wide-char->utf-8

2006-11-21 Thread Martial
I try to typeset the word "There's", with a decent apostrophe. This would lead to save your LilyPond file in utf-8 format and write % \relative c' { c d c e g c2. } \addlyrics { There's a beau -- ti -- ful text } %= -- Martial

Midi problem

2006-11-21 Thread Lasse Rempe
First of all --- thanks for the help on the hairpintobarline question; my reply on that message doesn't seem to have gone through. I thought I had installed the most current LilyPond version, but clearly not :doh:. I've now installed LilyPond 2.10, and I seem to be getting problems with the \tempo

Re: adding fingering diagrams

2006-11-21 Thread Chris Capoccia
Chris Capoccia spamcop.net> writes: > > the tin whistle fingering tips might be helpful: > http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.general/3651 > using the idea from the tin whistle fingering discussion, i was able to come up with something that i think will work well: \paper { #

TrillSpanner problem in 2.10

2006-11-21 Thread Palmer, Ralph
Greetings - I'm running LilyPond 2.10.0.1, according to the Properties of lilypond.exe, under Windows XP Pro V2002, SP2. When I upgraded from 2.8.4.1, and ran convert.ly on my files, I got an error on the following: Begin snippet %\version "2.8.4.1" \version "2.10.0" \include "english.ly"

Re: adding fingering diagrams

2006-11-21 Thread Mats Bengtsson
If you want to save some typing, you can define macros for these patterns, like fingerD = \markup{\column{◍ ● ● }} and then use them like d16^\fingerD /Mats Quoting Chris Capoccia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Chris Capoccia spamcop.net> writes: the tin whistle fingering tips might be helpful:

ly:wide-char->utf-8

2006-11-21 Thread Johan Vromans
Hi, According to the docs (10.1.4): To use a Unicode escape sequence, use #(ly:export (ly:wide-char->utf-8 #x2014)) Stupid question: How can I use this to get a particular unicode character into a string (e.g. lyric)? Thanks for any examples, -- Johan

Re: Hiding empty staves

2006-11-21 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Monday 20 November 2006 18:40, Bob Kline wrote: > Erik Sandberg wrote: > > The problem above, is that { } have different meanings in different > > places: Usually { } means sequential music, but the { } after \score are > > special: it starts with a _single_ music expression, followed by option

Re: Beaming strategy

2006-11-21 Thread Johan Vromans
[Quoting John Mandereau, on November 20 2006, 09:40, in "Re: Beaming strategy"] > Johan Vromans wrote: > [...] > > However (as you can see from my other posting) I'm stull puzzled why > > this is not default behaviour. > > According to the number of scores I've read, beaming eights into > 4-groups

Manual engraving video

2006-11-21 Thread Cesar Penagos
Hi Lilyponders! I wan to advice you that is an excellent video of the art of manual engraving in You Toube; you have to take a look of this excellent work. You can see it, at: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q8adEIMzbso Saludos!! -- Atentamente; César Penagos Tel:Of:(502)2253-7181, 2253-3826

Re: Manual engraving video

2006-11-21 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> "Cesar Penagos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I wan to advice you that is an excellent video of the art of manual > > engraving in You Toube; you have to take a look of this excellent work. > > You can see it, at: > > http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q8adEIMzbso > > Impressive! Here the Ger

Re: lily doc in french ?

2006-11-21 Thread Mats Bengtsson
The documentation is written using texinfo + lilypond-book and is included in the source code of LilyPond. /Mats Quoting Ole Hesprich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hi @ all! A translation of the lilypond manual, maybe not only into french, seems to be interesting to think about it. Of course I would

lily doc in french ?

2006-11-21 Thread Jean-marc LEGRAND
Hi all ! Two years have passed, and I'm still wondering if a french translation of Lilypond Docs wouldn't be a good thing (well, for french users, I think...). Here's my previous mail on this question, and Mat's answer was quite wise (I was just discovering Lilypond) :http://www.mail-archive

Re: lily doc in french ?

2006-11-21 Thread Ole Hesprich
Mats Bengtsson wrote: > The documentation is written using texinfo + lilypond-book and is > included in the source code of LilyPond. Any hint to what is needed do compile it? LaTeX? And what's about a change-log of the documentation files? Ole ___

Re: lily doc in french ?

2006-11-21 Thread Frédéric Chiasson
John Mandereau ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) has already started a french translation of the tutorial, which appears automatically if the site detects your computer uses french. You can contact him using the french user forum : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Frédéric Chiasson 2006/11/21, Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: Manual engraving video

2006-11-21 Thread Johan Vromans
"Cesar Penagos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I wan to advice you that is an excellent video of the art of manual > engraving in You Toube; you have to take a look of this excellent work. > You can see it, at: > http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q8adEIMzbso Impressive! But did I miss something impor

Re: Hiding empty staves

2006-11-21 Thread Bob Kline
Erik Sandberg wrote: > Hm, maybe it's the \clef bass; you could try to move it to where the music > starts. (not tested; it's just a guess) Thanks for the guess, but that didn't work: it just prints the empty staff with a G clef. -- Bob Kline http://www.rksystems.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Harp fingering and lever

2006-11-21 Thread Walter Hofmeister
On 11/20/06 2:32 PM, "Helge Kruse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Walter, > > thanks for reply. When I first seen the Analysis Bracket I didnt realized > its strength. But I need to tweek some properties (direction, > bracket-flare). I am a lilypond beginner and dont know, where I have to \set > th

Re: lily doc in french ?

2006-11-21 Thread John Mandereau
Le mardi 21 novembre 2006 à 16:50 +0100, Jean-marc LEGRAND a écrit : > Hi all ! > > Two years have passed, and I'm still wondering if a french translation of > Lilypond Docs wouldn't be > a good thing (well, for french users, I think...). Here's my previous mail on > this question, and > Mat's

Re: ly:wide-char->utf-8

2006-11-21 Thread Johan Vromans
Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In addition to the answers you have already received, it should be > noted that this instruction in the manual is obsolete for version > 2.10. A better way to access a Unicode character by number is > \markup \char ##x2014 Hurray! Thanks. -- Johan _

Re: ly:wide-char->utf-8

2006-11-21 Thread Johan Vromans
Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Or maybe rather > There´s a ... > or whatever apostrophe you prefer. Not this one, this is a acute accent ;-). > Otherwise, you can search the mailing list archives, to find out > how to get rid of the extra whitespace when concatenating markups. You

Re: Manual engraving video

2006-11-21 Thread Matthias Kilian
On Tue, Nov 21, 2006 at 08:59:39PM +0100, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > Here the German version, with a much better resolution: > > http://www.henle.de/video/vollversion/Notenstich_D.wmv Note that you can't directly fetch this, since they check the referer. But you can find it from Henle's "download"

Re: Nested slurs

2006-11-21 Thread Michael Welsh Duggan
"Joseph Haig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is it possible to have nested slurs of different types? For example, > on the following: > > e8 fis g4 > > to have "\slurSolid e8( fis) g4" and "\slurDotted e8( fis g4)" at the > same time, with the solid slur inside the dotted one? You could use the f

Re: broken crescendo

2006-11-21 Thread Trevor Bača
On 11/20/06, Orm Finnendahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, sorry to bug the list with all these questions, but the score needs to get finished urgently. At least I'm advancing, having finished one line of a violin solo piece (5 bars) today in just 10 hours continous work ;-) Contemporary music n

Re: lily doc in french ?

2006-11-21 Thread Ole Hesprich
Hi @ all! A translation of the lilypond manual, maybe not only into french, seems to be interesting to think about it. Of course I would like to have a manual in German :-) But just a few more questions to the technical side of a possible translation: is there a "source-code" for the manual from

Re: Page breaker question: obeying explicit \breaks

2006-11-21 Thread Trevor Bača
On 11/20/06, Joe Neeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 11/20/06, Trevor Bača <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > This is a page breaker question. > > This snippet houses explicit page breaks in a dedicated voice; it also > has a tuplet that should break across the line: This example will not wor

Re: broken crescendo

2006-11-21 Thread Mats Bengtsson
One hackers solution would be to create a white rectangle using a text script with \markup{\whiteout{...}} (I haven't thought of the details). If you are lucky, this rectangle will be typeset after (i.e. on top of) the hairpin. /Mats Quoting Trevor Bača <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On 11/20/06, Orm

Re: ly:wide-char->utf-8

2006-11-21 Thread Johan Vromans
Martial <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > \addlyrics { \markup {"a" #(ly:export (ly:wide-char->utf-8 #x2014))"b"}} Aha! So the trick is to use \markup. I try to typeset the word "There's", with a decent apostrophe. This would lead to \markup {"There"#(ly:export (ly:wide-char->utf-8 #x2019))"s"}

Page breaker question: obeying explicit \breaks

2006-11-21 Thread Trevor Bača
Hi, This is a page breaker question. This snippet houses explicit page breaks in a dedicated voice; it also has a tuplet that should break across the line: %%% BEGIN EX 1 %%% \version "2.10.0" \layout { indent = #0 ragged-right = ##t } \new Staff << \new Voice { s1 \noBreak s

Re: Beaming strategy

2006-11-21 Thread Valentin Villenave
Yes, I am myself a "2-2-2-2-maniac" too. :) By the way, I wonder if this beaming tradition has once had any justification. Whatever, Music notation is still (and must keep) evolving, isnt'it ? Thank you for opening this discussion. 2006/11/20, Martial <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > That may be a good

Re: Beaming strategy

2006-11-21 Thread John Mandereau
Johan Vromans wrote: [...] > However (as you can see from my other posting) I'm stull puzzled why > this is not default behaviour. According to the number of scores I've read, beaming eights into 4-groups in 4/4 time is an engraving tradition, that's why LilyPond does the same. Cheers, -- John M

Re: changing proportional notation duration in mid-line

2006-11-21 Thread Trevor Bača
On 11/6/06, Orm Finnendahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Am 06. November 2006, 13:09 Uhr (+0100) schrieb Mats Bengtsson: > Just as any other context property, you can set it with \set. Example: > > \relative c'{ > c d e f g f e d > \set Score.proportionalNotationDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 64 )

Re: colliding accidentals

2006-11-21 Thread Orm Finnendahl
Hi, I finally found a way to avoid the collision of the accidentals by moving the notes in different voices, shifting the notehead and making the stem invisible in one of the voices and moving the accidental with tweaking the extra-offset property of the accidental. Now the moved accidental colli

Re: Hiding empty staves

2006-11-21 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Isn't the simple answer to your problems that you read the wrong version of the manual? As far as I can see, you use version 2.6 and if I read the manual correctly for that version, you should use \override Score.RemoveEmptyVerticalGroup #'remove-first = ##t If you want to keep this setting in th

Re: LilyPondTool 2.10.0

2006-11-21 Thread Stephen Corey
Just had my first real chance to work with the new version of Lilypondtool and the anniversary edition of Lilypond. Congrats to both of you. Making music with this combination just keeps getting better and better. I don't think I'll "mouse" another arrangement ever again. I've been doing this so

Re: adding fingering diagrams

2006-11-21 Thread Chris Capoccia
Mats Bengtsson ee.kth.se> writes: > > If you want to save some typing, you can define macros for these > patterns, like > fingerD = \markup{\column{◍ ● ● }} > > and then use them like d16^\fingerD > >/Mats > i like the idea of using a macro, but there is more space in the vertical direct

Re: lily doc in french ?

2006-11-21 Thread Guy Durrieu
Jean-marc LEGRAND a écrit : > > > > Hi all ! > > Two years have passed, and I'm still wondering if a french translation of > Lilypond Docs wouldn't be > a good thing (well, for french users, I think...). Here's my previous mail on > this question, and > Mat's answer was quite wise (I was just