Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

Hi David, > The engraver would convert into something akin to c c' d' f' > bf' (somewhat opaque example since the first is the root pitch and the > others are the relation to the root note, expressed as intervals from > c'). There would be one or several markups for interpreting the c' d' > f'

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

Sorry for misunderstanding/misinterpretation. In lilypond I write bes for bflat, In text writing I use bB. On 18.01.2016 15:23, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi, Bb/C is built of C Bb D F …which is what I wrote: “bf” is Bb using english note names. May be you did a typing error No. You

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

Hi Robert, > It is possible though that all tools for doing that are already present in > LilyJazz ... I simply don't remember now. Sorry, I wasn’t clear: the accidentals in your chord names aren’t using the LilyJazz font, as far as I can tell, whereas the rest of the glyphs (e.g., letters,

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

Kieren MacMillan writes: > Hi David, > >> The engraver would convert into something akin to c c' d' f' >> bf' (somewhat opaque example since the first is the root pitch and the >> others are the relation to the root note, expressed as intervals from >> c'). There

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

On 18.01.2016 14:33, BB wrote: On 18.01.2016 13:29, Kieren MacMillan wrote: might be named Dm9no5/C, Cno5add2add4, Fmaj7add6no3/C depending on the context. Names are interpretations of the notes and always depend on the context. Your chords in the posting be labelled as Bb/C or

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

Hi, > Bb/C is built of C Bb D F …which is what I wrote: “bf” is Bb using english note names. > May be you did a typing error No. > You never get correct chord names without knowing the context That’s exactly my point. Regards, Kieren. Kieren MacMillan,

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

Kieren MacMillan writes: > Hi David, > >> Here's my take on how to do this more transparently: first have an >> engraver that does the basic chord analysis and writes one or several >> properties with the basic analysis results (like fundamental pitch and >> scale

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

On 18.01.2016 13:29, Kieren MacMillan wrote: might be named Dm9no5/C, Cno5add2add4, Fmaj7add6no3/C depending on the context. Names are interpretations of the notes and always depend on the context. Your chords in the posting be labelled as Bb/C or C7(sus2,sus4) Bb/C is built of C Bb D F

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

Yes, that's true - I guess that never bothered me ... until now, that is, now that you mention it, thank you very much. Quite possibly that is easy to fix though - I'll look into that asap. Maybe I should add that, while I like producing aesthetically pleasing lead sheets, my first priority

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

Hi Robert, > I guess that never bothered me ... until now, that is, now that you mention > it, thank you very much. You’re welcome! I’m very detail-oriented, so things that others might consider “little” often drive me quite crazy. =) > Quite possibly that is easy to fix though Should be.

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

Am 18.01.2016 08:44, schrieb Carl-Henrik Buschmann: 18. jan. 2016 kl. 02.40 skrev tim...@bitstream.net: On Jan 17, 2016, at 4:16 PM, Carl-Henrik Buschmann wrote: I'm not talking about code, i'm talking about style. And by the looks of it Sibelius at least have by and

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 09:12:42 +0100 Blöchl Bernhard wrote: > Do you really believe that Sibelius was inspired by R? Not sure if troll > Johan Julius Christian („Jean“) Sibelius * 8. Dezember 1865 in > Hämeenlinna; † 20. September 1957 in Järvenpää near

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

Am 18.01.2016 um 09:12 schrieb Blöchl Bernhard: [...] Do you really believe that Sibelius was inspired by R? The first edition of Standardized chord symbol notation : (a uniform system for the music profession) von Carl Brandt; Clinton Roemer Englisch was published 1976 by Sherman Oaks, Calif.

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

Kieren MacMillan writes: > Hi Simon, > >> Note the effect of sensible code formatting – it can’t be emphasised > often enough… > > I actually had it that way in my example, but decided to put it on one > line to save vertical space in the post. Well, that's

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

Carl-Henrik Buschmann writes: > Kieren is thankfully working on this and i hope the brains that code > for lilypond can bash heads together and at least give us a *working* > solution and stop bickering over personal preferences that only hinder > the development. I think

Re: temporarily escaping chordmode

Kieren MacMillan writes: > Hello all, > > If I’ve want to explicitly enter a chord in a chordmode block, e.g., > > \chordmode { > c1 > d1:m6 > > } > > what’s the incantation? That already works as of version 2.19.13, commit

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

Thomas Morley writes: > 2016-01-17 22:28 GMT+01:00 Carl-Henrik Buschmann : > > Thanks for code and links! > >> A properly formatet complex chord stacks alterations in parenthesis. > > Well, I disagre - at least as a general verdict. > >> Lilyponds

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

-- Note beforehand: I'm sending this from a phone, and I can't control if the attached picture is sent inline or not - hope you can see it, otherwise I'll have to resend it later today. -- Hi Carl-Henrik, Fwiw, I write jazz sheets all the time, and I've trimmed Lilypond to produce stuff

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

Chill pills for everybody! Smile :-) > 18. jan. 2016 kl. 09.39 skrev David Kastrup : > > There is no "brains that code" who have to placate "us" by "at least > giving us a *working* solution". I see how that might have been misunderstood, but please belive it was with the best

Re: Handling of subdivisions with shortened beams

ehm, attachment? Am 18.01.2016 um 18:20 schrieb Urs Liska: > One more from this round of review ... > > I had changed the subdivision behaviour (which is already in 2.19.35) > for shortened beams. > > c32 [ c c c c c c] r > > (i.e. a beam shortened by 1/32) subdivided by 1/8 currently has *two* >

Re: Handling of subdivisions with shortened beams

Am 18.01.2016 um 18:24 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: > Hi Urs, > >> c) >> Take a) as the default and provide a context property > This. > > Thanks, > Kieren. > Any suggestions for a better name than \set subdividedBeamCountAddForShortenedBeam = ##t ?

Re: Configuring beam count at subdivisions

Am 18.01.2016 um 18:28 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: > Hi Urs, > >> deep in my heart I also feel we shouldn't support incorrect notation > Well, okay, then… Let's eliminate the ability to move NoteHead to the wrong > side of Stem, block \rotate from affecting e.g., Rest, etc. etc. ;) > > Just a

Re: Handling of subdivisions with shortened beams

Hi all, > the options seem to be complex enough to be better stored in an alist. Agreed! Kieren. Kieren MacMillan, composer ‣ website: www.kierenmacmillan.info ‣ email: i...@kierenmacmillan.info ___ lilypond-user

Re: Handling of subdivisions with shortened beams

On 18.01.2016 18:27, Urs Liska wrote: Am 18.01.2016 um 18:24 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: Hi Urs, c) Take a) as the default and provide a context property This. Thanks, Kieren. Any suggestions for a better name than \set subdividedBeamCountAddForShortenedBeam = ##t It would almost

Re: Configuring beam count at subdivisions

Thanks for the feedback. off-list I got one strong opinion against providing the #'one option because it's incorrect. I know it's incorrect, and that's why I had asked for an improvement around a year ago. However, it's the way everybody is used to, and that's why some might still *want* to

Handling of subdivisions with shortened beams

One more from this round of review ... I had changed the subdivision behaviour (which is already in 2.19.35) for shortened beams. c32 [ c c c c c c] r (i.e. a beam shortened by 1/32) subdivided by 1/8 currently has *two* beams at the subdivision - to indicate that the remaining group is shorter

Re: Configuring beam count at subdivisions

On 18.01.2016 18:12, Urs Liska wrote: Thanks for the feedback. off-list I got one strong opinion against providing the #'one option because it's incorrect. ‘Because it’s incorrect’ being one of the weaker arguments. Actually it impedes legibility, so… I know it's incorrect, and that's

Re: Handling of subdivisions with shortened beams

Hi Urs, > c) > Take a) as the default and provide a context property This. Thanks, Kieren. Kieren MacMillan, composer ‣ website: www.kierenmacmillan.info ‣ email: i...@kierenmacmillan.info ___ lilypond-user mailing

Re: Configuring beam count at subdivisions

Hi Urs, > deep in my heart I also feel we shouldn't support incorrect notation Well, okay, then… Let's eliminate the ability to move NoteHead to the wrong side of Stem, block \rotate from affecting e.g., Rest, etc. etc. ;) Just a Devil’s Advocate-y way of saying: I completely agree that

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

Hi David, > Here's my take on how to do this more transparently: first have an > engraver that does the basic chord analysis and writes one or several > properties with the basic analysis results (like fundamental pitch and > scale offsets). Those properties are made part of text-interface. > >

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

, > >> it involves the (fantastic) LilyJazz package which was created by Thorsten >> Hämmerle some time ago. > > Why are the alterations in the chord names not LilyJazz? Well, now that you mention it, they might well be. It's been quite some time since I worked on that. What I *am* sure of is

Re: temporarily escaping chordmode

Hi Simon, > In case you should need that for which you initially asked :-) – there’s > \notemode {}. Normally implicit, it can be used in special situations such as > this. That’s what I was looking for! Thanks. I think I will need this for tagged non-chord material (e.g., split Voice

Re: temporarily escaping chordmode

Hi David, >\chordmode { \clef bass c/e c/e } >or other ways of explicitly spelling out some not-really chord material. On a related note, I discovered yesterday — quite by accident — the output of \chordmode { c1:1 } Cheers, Kieren. Kieren

Re: Microtonal notation - arrows up and down

On 13/01/16 16:53, Luca Danieli wrote: I tried to find information on how to do it on internet, but I am unable to find anything. I am sorry to continuously asking, but can you give me any hint on how to do it? I think this is what you want: arrowGlyphs = #`( (,DOUBLE-SHARP .

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

This is smashing! Great job. The alignment of the chords, is it possible to push above the staff like traditional chords? The 8, is it part of a multi rest? > 18. jan. 2016 kl. 11.40 skrev Robert Schmaus : > > > -- > Note beforehand: I'm sending this from a phone,

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 11:40:47 +0100 Robert Schmaus wrote: > Fwiw, I write jazz sheets all the time, and I've trimmed Lilypond to > produce stuff like this: Nice, very nice! It's a shame the "8" won't match... I've tried to obtain something like this some years ago, but

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

Thanks! I can post the code for that if you're interested, I just can't promise I'll be able to do that tonight. And it involves the (fantastic) LilyJazz package which was created by Thorsten Hämmerle some time ago. If can get a hold of that, and put it together with Kieren's suggestions,

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

Hi Robert, > it involves the (fantastic) LilyJazz package which was created by Thorsten > Hämmerle some time ago. Why are the alterations in the chord names not LilyJazz? > If can get a hold of that, and put it together with Kieren's suggestions, > that's basically it - the rest is routine

Re: Configuring beam count at subdivisions

On 18.01.2016 17:32, Urs Liska wrote: This gives arguably the best option as default and still gives Sibelius-converts the chance to redo their familiar shortcomings ;-) Opinions? LGTM :-) Best, Simon ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Configuring beam count at subdivisions

Hi again, some aspects of the discussion about beaming made me realize again that we shouldn't always/only look for "the" solution but rather provide the choices and set a sensible default. And this is probably true also for the beam count at subdivisions. Earlier (up to ca. 2.19.20) LilyPond

Re: Configuring beam count at subdivisions

Hi Urs, > This gives arguably the best option as default and still gives > Sibelius-converts the chance to redo their familiar shortcomings ;-) > > Opinions? LGreatTM! Thanks for doing this. Kieren. Kieren MacMillan, composer ‣ website:

Re: Handling of subdivisions with shortened beams

Am 18.01.2016 um 18:37 schrieb Simon Albrecht: > On 18.01.2016 18:27, Urs Liska wrote: >> Am 18.01.2016 um 18:24 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: >>> Hi Urs, >>> c) Take a) as the default and provide a context property >>> This. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Kieren. >>> >> Any suggestions for a better

Swedish letters in Lilypond lyrics?

Hi! I have just recently discovered the world of Lilypond and was really pleased as long as I wrote the lyrics in English. When switching to Swedish I ran into trouble. There are three specific characters in Swedish and only onle of them is available in the Lilypond "list of special

Re: Swedish letters in Lilypond lyrics?

Karin: > I have just recently discovered the world of Lilypond and was really > pleased as long as I wrote the lyrics in English. When switching to Swedish > I ran into trouble. There are three specific characters in Swedish and only > onle of them is available in the Lilypond "list of special

Re: Controlling hairpin length

Hi David, 2016-01-18 22:56 GMT+01:00 David Sumbler : > After spending some hours trying to get to the bottom of this problem, [...] Well, I spend some hours creating the function(s) ;) > I narrowed it down to 3 different elements in my files [...] > I feel > that ideally an

Re: Configuring beam count at subdivisions

On 1/18/16 10:28 AM, "Kieren MacMillan" wrote: >Hi Urs, > >> deep in my heart I also feel we shouldn't support incorrect notation > >Well, okay, thenŠ Let's eliminate the ability to move NoteHead to the >wrong side of Stem, block \rotate from affecting e.g.,

Re: tuplet number

> On Jan 18, 2016, at 5:07 PM, Malte Meyn wrote: > > > >> Am 18.01.2016 um 23:52 schrieb Mark Stephen Mrotek: >> In 2.18, >> >> Tuplet - no number\override TupletNumber #'stencil = ##f > > Setting the stencil to ##f is exactly what \omit does ;) (\omit already >

ly:one-page-breaking (was: ly:one-line-breaking)

> On Jan 9, 2016, at 1:30 PM, Richard Shann wrote: > > I was wondering if it would be possible to develop a variant of "all on > one line", namely "all on one page", where the page height would be > automatically adjusted to fit the music, leaving the width as set. I’m

Re: Controlling hairpin length

2016-01-19 1:04 GMT+01:00 Thomas Morley : > Hi David, > > 2016-01-18 22:56 GMT+01:00 David Sumbler : > >> After spending some hours trying to get to the bottom of this problem, > [...] > > Well, I spend some hours creating the function(s) ;) > >> I

Re: Top margin

On 1/18/16 3:30 PM, "Sharon Rosner" wrote: >In many cases this would not be such a problem, as the highest object on >the >top staff would be the bar number. But in cases where there are high notes >on ledger lines, or other objects high above the top staff, this would >lead

Re: Swedish letters in Lilypond lyrics?

Hi Karin, Lilypond is Unicode aware. HTML escape codes have no relevance to lilypond. Any editor that supports Unicode will allow you to type Swedish, and there is no need for ‘special characters’. Frescobaldi is highly recommneded as a lilypond programming environment. Andrew

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

> On Jan 18, 2016, at 1:44 AM, Carl-Henrik Buschmann > wrote: > > >> 18. jan. 2016 kl. 02.40 skrev tim...@bitstream.net: >> >>> >>> On Jan 17, 2016, at 4:16 PM, Carl-Henrik Buschmann >>> wrote: >>> >>> While i might agree with you to some extent

Compressing percent repeats.

Greetings All, I am generating parts from an orchestral score and am wondering if there is any way of handling percent repeats in the same manner as \compressFullBarRests does for multimeasure rests? That is, a number would be placed above, say, an isolated repeat informing the player how many

Re: Handling of subdivisions with shortened beams

>> b) Always do the second version (i.e. shorten to indicate the >>shortened length of the beam) I prefer this, and it seems to me that this would be a good default. Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

ly:one-page-breaking (was: ly:one-line-breaking)

> On Jan 9, 2016, at 1:30 PM, Richard Shann wrote: > > I was wondering if it would be possible to develop a variant of "all on > one line", namely "all on one page", where the page height would be > automatically adjusted to fit the music, leaving the width as set. I’m

Re: Swedish letters in Lilypond lyrics?

On 19.01.2016 01:52, Andrew Bernard wrote: Hi Karin, Lilypond is Unicode aware. HTML escape codes have no relevance to lilypond. There are the text replacements, see NR A.13 (2.19.35). Best, Simon ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: Swedish letters in Lilypond lyrics?

Simon Albrecht: > On 18.01.2016 22:18, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > > Simon Albrecht: > >> On 18.01.2016 22:03, Karin Glasmästar wrote: > >>> Now I found the way to what Karl wrote: I am using the built-in > >>> crude editor of Lilypond itself - doesn't that editor support UTF-8? > >> I don’t know,

Re: tuplet number

Am 18.01.2016 um 23:46 schrieb Stanton Sanderson: > How does one revert \omit TupletNumber to allow the number to appear for a > specific tuplet? There are two options: 1. If you want to omit only one TupletNumber you can use \once: … \once \omit TupletNumber \tuplet … 2. Revert the

Re: tuplet number

Am 18.01.2016 um 23:52 schrieb Mark Stephen Mrotek: > In 2.18, > > Tuplet - no number\override TupletNumber #'stencil = ##f Setting the stencil to ##f is exactly what \omit does ;) (\omit already exists in 2.18) ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: Swedish letters in Lilypond lyrics?

On 18.01.2016 22:03, Karin Glasmästar wrote: Now I found the way to what Karl wrote: I am using the built-in crude editor of Lilypond itself - doesn't that editor support UTF-8? I don’t know, I’m not even sure if there is a Linux version of it. Anybody? Best, Simon BR, Karin

Re: Swedish letters in Lilypond lyrics?

Hi Karin, first: we use to keep all the discussions on-list. Thus others may step in (e.g. if I cannot help with the editor you are using – which is likely…) or retrieve the information from the list archives. On 18.01.2016 21:58, Karin Glasmästar wrote: Hi! Thanks for fast answer. It's

Re: Swedish letters in Lilypond lyrics?

Simon Albrecht: > On 18.01.2016 22:03, Karin Glasmästar wrote: > > Now I found the way to what Karl wrote: I am using the built-in > > crude editor of Lilypond itself - doesn't that editor support UTF-8? > I don’t know, I’m not even sure if there is a Linux version of it. Anybody? As far as I

Top margin

Hello I'm currently exploring layout in lilypond and have come across a problem which I haven't noticed before and it's kind of a show stopper for me. In Elaine Gould's excellent "Behind bars" she states: "Match the levels of top and bottom staves across facing pages, regardless of whether the

tuplet number

How does one revert \omit TupletNumber to allow the number to appear for a specific tuplet? In the following example, I would like to show the tupet number in the second measure. Thanks in advance. Stan \version "2.19.35" \relative c'' { c \omit TupletNumber \tuplet 3/2 {c4 b8}

Re: Controlling hairpin length

On Sun, 2016-01-17 at 20:15 +0100, Thomas Morley wrote: > 2016-01-17 19:21 GMT+01:00 David Sumbler : > > > > > The only trouble is, I am getting a lot of compiler errors and warnings. > > For each of the relevant layout blocks, I get: > > > > programming error: infinite rod >

Re: tuplet number

Mark Thanks for the very complete answer. Malte’s method ( \undo \omit TupletNumber ) is almost too obvious! Both work exactly aa hoped. Stan > On Jan 18, 2016, at 4:52 PM, Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote: > > Stan, > > In 2.18, > > Tuplet - no bracket \override

RE: tuplet number

Stan, In 2.18, Tuplet - no bracket \override TupletBracket #'bracket-visibility = ##f Tuplet - no number \override TupletNumber #'stencil = ##f Tuplet - number \revert TupletNumber #'stencil Mark -Original Message- From: lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org

Re: Swedish letters in Lilypond lyrics?

On 18.01.2016 20:33, Karin wrote: Hi! I have just recently discovered the world of Lilypond and was really pleased as long as I wrote the lyrics in English. When switching to Swedish I ran into trouble. There are three specific characters in Swedish and only onle of them is available in the

Re: Swedish letters in Lilypond lyrics?

On 18.01.2016 22:18, k...@aspodata.se wrote: Simon Albrecht: On 18.01.2016 22:03, Karin Glasmästar wrote: Now I found the way to what Karl wrote: I am using the built-in crude editor of Lilypond itself - doesn't that editor support UTF-8? I don’t know, I’m not even sure if there is a Linux

Re: Swedish letters in Lilypond lyrics?

Martin Tarenskeen: > On Mon, 18 Jan 2016, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > > Example: > > http://turkos.aspodata.se/git/musik/songs/pilgrimssaang_1200.ly > Unfortunately not a fully working example, because of the two \include > statements at the beginning of the file: > > \include