Re: GOP2-2b - Stable 2.16.x releases (dictator) (probable decision)

2012-08-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 04:15:34PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: > I'm sometimes slow to react (up to one week for making a patch), but I'm > willing to help with version number management in the build system if > this definitely appears to be the route to go with. Regardless of the question of hav

Re: GOP2-2b - Stable 2.16.x releases (dictator) (probable decision)

2012-08-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 06:36:14PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: > Il giorno mer, 01/08/2012 alle 15.52 +0100, Graham Percival ha scritto: > > Regardless of the question of having a tuple of four values, it > > would be nice to support build numbers, i.e. 2.15.43-2: > > htt

Re: GOP2-2b - Stable 2.16.x releases (dictator) (probable decision)

2012-08-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 08:10:26PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: > Il giorno mer, 01/08/2012 alle 18.08 +0100, Graham Percival ha scritto: > > The first step is to make it > > work in "make website", which is infinitely easier than trying > > to do anything in

Re: Sibelius Software UK office shuts down

2012-08-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Aug 02, 2012 at 03:02:34PM +0100, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: > On 02/08/12 14:49, m...@apollinemike.com wrote: > >If you guys can get a Google Grant for your LilyPond non-profit > >in the Netherlands, now would be a fantastic time to run ads on > >Google getting Sibelius users to check

Re: Sibelius Software UK office shuts down

2012-08-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Aug 02, 2012 at 06:22:49PM +0200, m...@apollinemike.com wrote: > On 2 août 2012, at 18:18, Lucas Gonze wrote: > > > Is it architecturally possible to make a significant amount of > > overhead go away? Are incremental compiles plausible? > > It is very difficult. It's better to use a fron

Re: New issue of The LilyPond Report!

2012-08-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 11:36:53AM +, Valentin Villenave wrote: > PS. Graham, is that enough for you? :-) I don't see a patch in staging which announces this on lilypond.org, so... no? - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org h

Re: GOP2-2b - Stable 2.16.x releases (dictator) (probable decision)

2012-08-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 07:42:34PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: > Il giorno mer, 01/08/2012 alle 20.51 +0100, Graham Percival ha scritto: > > I was particularly thinking of the download links and links to > > docs (on both the Downloads page and the Development page). That > &

Re: yay! for lilypond 2.15

2012-08-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Aug 04, 2012 at 04:06:10PM +0200, Stefaan Himpe wrote: > > I've written two tutorials on how I calculated the music (including > the lilypond code, which I'm sure can be improved!) which can be > read in [1] and [2]. > [1] > http://a-touch-of-music.blogspot.be/2012/07/tutorial-on-my-techn

Re: LilyPond developer&user meeting in Waltrop, August 24th to 28th

2012-08-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 02:13:06PM +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: > On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Joseph Rushton Wakeling > wrote: > > Just a suggestion, but given the recent news regarding Sibelius (cf. > > discussion on User list), why not drop a line to a couple of the main > > MuseScore develop

Re: Paralellizing Lilypond [was: Re: Sibelius Software UK office shutsdown]

2012-08-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 01:21:27PM +0100, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: > ... but I think it emphasizes my real point: this puts the onus on > the user to split up a project into independently-compilable units. > I think that it's worth having Lilypond try and automatically > identify independent

Re: Waltrop meeting outline

2012-08-19 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 03:02:29PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > > The schedule would focus on stable release work and criteria on Friday, > with the goal of getting most participants hands-on experience or at > least exposure to GUB work. Coursework goal is the release of 2.16, and > getting the

Re: \include in a .ly file included in a LilyPond-Book document (.lytex)

2012-08-19 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 12:27:35AM +0200, Jakub Pavlík wrote: > it seems behavior of lilypond-book concerning .ly files including other .ly > files changed between 2.14.2 and 2.15.42: Yes, I think this was done in 2.15.24. See issue 2104 in the tracker. It's deliberate. - Graham __

[servera...@gmail.com: A Letter from a Turkish Composer and LilyPond user...]

2012-08-20 Thread Graham Percival
lish, or French, or any other languages. I'm not eager to be hosting videos ourselves, but we could embed youtube videos into a web page in Introduction->videos. - Graham - Forwarded message from Server Acim - Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 00:45:33 +0300 From: Server Acim To: Grah

Re: Lilypond 2.16.0 released!

2012-08-26 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 11:15:13AM +0200, Hans Aberg wrote: > This page says "MacOS X 10.7 Lion is not yet supported", but the Intel > version GUI works on 10.7.4, and for the LilyPond PPC version, it will never > be supported as 10.7 cannot run it (10.6 could run it via the Rosetta > emulator,

Re: Lilypond 2.16.0 released!

2012-08-27 Thread Graham Percival
Please send such questions to lilypond-user; hopefully somebody can help you with this and if you have a bug it can get to bug-lilypond. - Graham On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 10:18:40AM -0500, Fredric Dannen wrote: > > Graham, >   > I'm having a problem with 2.16 that may have a simple solution, and

Re: Some problems in the docs, as encountered by a beginner

2012-09-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 05:27:46PM +, Neil Sands wrote: > I hope this is the right place to point out some errors in the LilyPond > Learning > Manual. Thanks for the feedback! Normally this would go to the bug-lilypond mailing list, which I've CC'd. > 1. http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Docum

Re: update all files with convert.ly

2012-09-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Sep 05, 2012 at 09:52:47PM +, David Bobroff wrote: > I seem to remember that convert-ly used to, or used to have an option, > to descend into sub-directories. Am I mistaken? You're mistaken; convert-ly only applies to a single file. You're probably thinking of somebody's "wrapper" sh

Re: Markup query

2012-09-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Sep 06, 2012 at 10:37:37AM +0100, Peter Gentry wrote: > It is a shame that the manuals do not contain a single source including a > precise definition of all the markup options - similar to > a c++ manual say. Notation A.10 is intended to give such a source of definitions. - Graham ___

Re: Markup query

2012-09-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Sep 06, 2012 at 07:55:32PM +0100, Peter Gentry wrote: > On Thu, 6 Sep 2012 03:36:40 -0700 Graham Percival wrote > > > Notation A.10 is intended to give such a source of definitions. > > Ah I had downloaded all twelve of the pdf manuals which I routinely search > v

Re: lilypond manual intro

2012-09-08 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 06:20:09PM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: > > Karl Berry wrote Friday, September 07, 2012 11:45 PM > > > The first example there looks good (and is in fact what I sent her). > > But then the second example, instead of showing how to typeset other > > kinds of notation, goes

Re: lilypond manual intro

2012-09-09 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 09:19:36PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > Graham Percival writes: > > > (I'd also like to have an \absolute keyword so that doc examples > > using it could be more explicit, but that would need to wait until > > we have a good way to discuss

Re: lilypond manual intro

2012-09-09 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 12:30:44AM +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: > On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 12:14 AM, Karl Berry wrote: > > > > Probably for the same reason I didn't: when we go to the web site and > > simply click the obvious links, the browser shows the version-dependent > > url. > > > > It is surel

Re: Possible feature request for 'q' shorthand or tie syntax

2012-09-20 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 11:56:02PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > Jim Long writes: > > > Please educate me if there is already a way to do this, but it > > appears that 'q' as a shorthand for the repetition of the > > previous note(s) only works for chords. It would be handy if it > > worked for

Re: Possible feature request for 'q' shorthand or tie syntax

2012-09-20 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 07:45:41PM +0200, Nicolas Sceaux wrote: > > Le 20 sept. 2012 à 19:21, Graham Percival a écrit : > > >> A single note name is not that much longer to type than q. If it is > >> really important to you, place the single note in a chord: > &g

Re: How to reserve more space for fermata mark (to prevent large vertical shifts)

2012-10-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Oct 06, 2012 at 06:44:18AM +0200, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > > Rehearsal marks are one of the things that has extra-spacing-width > > set to (inf . -inf) so that it reserves no space during note-spacing > > > > \once\override Score.RehearsalMark #'extra-spacing-width = #'() > > Somethin

Re: documentation download?

2012-10-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 07:04:04AM +1100, Nick Payne wrote: > On 11/10/12 23:18, Eluze wrote: > > if you have good ideas how to > > design this page better and make it more informative you are welcome > > to send them as an enhancement request to the bug list! > > With previous versions, the downl

Re: A whole lot of e-mails

2012-10-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 04:38:13PM -0500, Tim McNamara wrote: > > Well, yes. The Reply-To header is set so that replies go to the > sender rather than the list, so one must "reply all" to include > the list which results in some people getting two copies of the > e-mail- one from the sender and o

Re: Manual search returns results from wrong version

2012-10-16 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 09:02:18AM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: > It's a common header, used on all the web pages, and therefore uses the same > version number throughout. Non-trivial to change. Shouldn't it be v2.16, though? It's safer to point to v2.16 rather than v2.17. - Graham _

Re: Supporting LilyPond development financially

2012-11-08 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 10:38:53AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > Francisco Vila writes: > > If I were the sole designer/developer of the web page, I'd put a big > > star-shaped Donate! or Sponsor! button clearly visible on the front > > page. Tiny, personal projects do it all the time. > > Ah, bu

Re: Supporting LilyPond development financially

2012-11-08 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 01:30:58PM -0800, Jim Long wrote: > On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 08:25:56PM +0100, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > I think that there is 100% approval that you *do* such a huge amount > > of work. And you should be payed for that IMHO. I agree with the first sentence. I have problem

Re: Lilypond in Mac OS X Terminal

2012-12-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 08:47:27PM +0100, Hans Aberg wrote: > > On 12 Dec 2012, at 16:32, David Kastrup wrote: > > Stupid question: why would one create executable shims to something like > > DIR/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/* in ~/bin and then add ~/bin to > > one's PATH when one can just

Re: Lilypond in Mac OS X Terminal

2012-12-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 09:14:12PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > Graham Percival writes: > > > The executable shims avoid those problems, while being relatively easy > > to explain to newbies. > > The libexec route appears to cater for all of that. We should use bi

Re: \context for named Staff

2009-08-08 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 05:18:12PM -0700, Jay Anderson wrote: > If it is a snippet ideally I'd want to do something like: > > \include "small_staff.lyi" BTW, the latest discussion was to use .ily > How would one make small_staff.lyi so this worked? This way it would > be bundled with the other g

Re: problems with learning lilypond

2009-08-09 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Aug 09, 2009 at 09:05:41PM +0700, Simon Mackenzie wrote: > One adapted suggestion I've sourced from the Lilypond Learning Manual (5.1.3) > runs as follows... > > MUSICBOOK.ly contains the list of all music sheets for the music book. I don't think that was suggested in LM 5.1.3. This isn'

Re: new website, draft 7

2009-08-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 08:04:32AM -0700, Mark Polesky wrote: > > On the page http://lilypond.org/~graham/Contact.html, > definitely we should give the links for subscribing to the > mailing lists: They were there already, but not particularly obviously. Improved. > I'd also add the links to the

Re: website: why do you use lilypond?

2009-08-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 07:12:21PM +0200, Francisco Vila wrote: > The Spanish forum is a Yahoo! group. > > Group page http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/lilypond-es/ Thanks, added. Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org h

Re: website: why do you use lilypond?

2009-08-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 02:14:51PM +0200, Valentin Villenave wrote: > 2009/8/1 Valentin Villenave : > > There's also > > http://www.lilypondforum.de/ (German) > > http://groups.google.com/group/lilypond-brasil (Portuguese) > > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user-fr (French) > > ...

Re: new website, draft 7

2009-08-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 02:37:06AM -0700, Matthieu Jacquot wrote: > If you need one more publisher to fill the empty space in the production > page, you could add my http://theshadylanepublishing.com website , it is > very very small so I don't know if it will be fine. Thanks, added! I used the

new website draft 8: almost giving up

2009-08-11 Thread Graham Percival
Hi folks. http://lilypond.org/~graham/ Most of the people who have been working on the website, including me, are fed up with it. I'm ready to shovel this out the door just to get rid of it... not particularly the best frame of mind to be introducing a major change to our users' experience, but h

Re: new website draft 8: almost giving up

2009-08-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 09:55:28AM -0700, Mark Polesky wrote: > I don't think "mailist" is a word. I prefer "mailing list" (it's > what you'll find in dictionaries, wikipedia, etc). If you like the > shorter form, I'd prefer "mail list" or "mail-list", or perhaps > "maillist" (but less so). http://

Re: new website draft 8: almost giving up

2009-08-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:12:58PM -0300, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Graham > Percival wrote: > > - I think the freedom propaganda should be moved elsewhere. I think > we are primarily trying to compete on quality of output. I think the > politi

Re: new website, draft 7

2009-08-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 03:18:16PM -0700, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > > 1. On the examples page, under the "Jesu, Meine Freude", it says > (click for longer excerpt) when it should say (click to enlarge). Thanks, fixed. > 2. On the examples page, under Modern Music, one of the f's is shifted >

Re: problems with learning lilypond

2009-08-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 06:37:19PM -0700, David Fedoruk wrote: > The documentation for Lilypond has one problem; it is, as the program is > itself, under development. It is screamingly frustrating for us > non-programmer > users. Yes, but nothing forces people to upgrade. The documentation for

Re: new website, draft 7

2009-08-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:18:05AM -0400, Chris Snyder wrote: > On Text-input.html, the pop music example is missing a hyphen and an > extender line in the first measure (though perhaps this was intentional > to simplify things?) I'd rather avoid those. Of course, I'd also like to get different l

new website non-git help

2009-08-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 02:38:34PM +0100, Gerard McConnell wrote: > I have to say I'm very grateful for the work that's been > done on Lilypond, so I'd certainly like to help in some > way. Without getting into git or programming, how could I help? Popular question; here's a few things! 1) The

Re: new website, draft 7

2009-08-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:26:37PM -0500, Jonathan Kulp wrote: > I've fixed it and pushed. Thanks! > I also had to modify the makefile in the examples dir--explanation in the > commit message. Ah, I see. I set it up so that I could run "make generate-examples" from the main dir. It doesn't mat

Re: new website draft 8: almost giving up

2009-08-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:32:33AM -0700, MonAmiPierrot wrote: > > - the top note in the download page should be bigger, blood red, blinking > and should grab the user by the face and oblige him to read it. It's just > too important. And it should not say "please", but just "If you do not know > w

Re: new website draft 8: almost giving up

2009-08-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:12:58PM -0300, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > - The colors in the secondary menu bar don't make sense to me. The > colors in the top bar are used to indicate which item is selected. > it's > impossible to tell at first glance which submenu item you have chosen. This would be

Re: new website, draft 7

2009-08-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:41:06PM -0500, Jonathan Kulp wrote: > When I looked at my commit in gitk I didn't see the whole commit message. Did > you see it? I did that one-line message, then went down a couple of lines and > used # comment lines to further explain the Makefile change. *head smack*

Re: new website draft 8: almost giving up

2009-08-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:55:52AM -0400, Chris Snyder wrote: > Graham Percival wrote: > > hey, that's life in open-source projects! If you feel at all > > enthusiastic about the new website, please consider helping. > > I'd like to help, though I realize it

Re: new website draft 8: almost giving up

2009-08-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 09:07:20AM +0100, Mark Knoop wrote: > At 20:43 on 11 Aug 2009, Graham Percival wrote: > > Done; I changed it to "LilyPond... music notation for everyone". > > It's still in the page title: > > LilyPond... music notation for everyone

Re: fingering orientation problem

2009-08-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 01:09:59PM -0500, Jonathan Kulp wrote: > > Is the use of _ and ^ with fingerings documented anywhere? I don't remember > seeing this. It's certainly easier than using the chord angle brackets. " Fingering instructions may be manually placed above or below the staff, see D

Re: fingering orientation problem

2009-08-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 06:59:01AM +1000, Nick Payne wrote: > Yes, the <> construct around the note is needed. If you just have e-4 e^4 e_4, > all three fingerings will appear above the notes. Really? That's odd, apparently 2.13.2 is broken. { c'4^3 c_2 } gives me a 2 below the staff. Cheers,

website menus: gradient vs. solid

2009-08-12 Thread Graham Percival
I'm not certain if the question was clear, so let's do this again and put it to a vote. These two images have the same top-level menu item selected. Which is easier to see? http://lilypond.org/~graham/solid.png http://lilypond.org/~graham/gradients.png (ok, the background to the lily icon

Re: new website non-git help

2009-08-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 09:51:07AM -0400, Chris Snyder wrote: > Andrew Hawryluk wrote: > > Could we add a link in the first paragraph to the (upcoming) essay? > > Perhaps on the words "beautifully engraved music". The essay was a > > prominent feature of the previous web design, and says a lot abou

Re: new website draft 8: almost giving up

2009-08-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 06:39:20PM -0300, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 3:58 AM, Jan > Nieuwenhuizen wrote: > >> - GNU and (new) website can be trimmed from the title. > > > > We do not want to trim GNU.  Remember the long thread on devel, > > where even contributors did not rea

Re: new website draft 8: almost giving up

2009-08-13 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 08:14:25AM +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: > Op woensdag 12-08-2009 om 17:59 uur [tijdzone -0700], schreef Graham > Percival: > > > It's not that; Jan thought you were objecting to having: > > LilyPond is Free Software and part of the GNU pro

Re: new website draft 8: almost giving up

2009-08-13 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 09:13:20AM +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: > Op donderdag 13-08-2009 om 00:03 uur [tijdzone -0700], schreef Graham > Percival: > Yes, that will surely work. Let's add michael jackson sex porn pr0n, > we'll make a million! Smart!;-) Oh, come o

Re: new website draft 8: almost giving up

2009-08-13 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 05:00:57PM +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: > Op donderdag 13-08-2009 om 11:05 uur [tijdzone -0300], schreef Han-Wen > Nienhuys: > > I side with the general recommendation that Google gives, which is to > > focus on building a good website, and trusting that the resulting > >

Re: problems with learning lilypond

2009-08-13 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 04:54:15PM -0700, David Fedoruk wrote: > Also, remember that my time zone is GMT -8, so I am one of the last > people on this list to see anything posted. Same here, being in Burnaby. > If I had to say one thing that is wrong with documentation is that the > people doing t

Re: new website draft 8: almost giving up

2009-08-13 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:02:51PM -0700, Mark Polesky wrote: > Graham Percival wrote: > > But this should only happen after we have the new site done and > > ideally translated into one or two languages. So let's get back > > to work and leave this bikeshed behind. &

Re: new website draft 8: almost giving up

2009-08-13 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:46:00PM -0700, Mark Polesky wrote: > Graham Percival wrote: > > > Besides, asking our users to advertize our site will *also* be > > easier when we have a new site. I mean, it gives a good excuse to > > motivate people, right? > > Oh

Re: complex time signatures: scheme help

2009-08-14 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 11:13:18PM +0200, James E. Bailey wrote: > Look at that, even I need scheme. I wanted to have the time signature be > > 3+3+2 > 8 Great! Search the archives for this list, last Oct or Nov or maybe even Dec, to find the solution. "lilypond elegance" will help the sea

Re: Minor releases?

2009-08-16 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 11:48:53AM -0400, David Raleigh Arnold wrote: > I don't see any straightforward way of seeing a changelog or > anything which tells the differences between minor releases. The git log messages. > I think I can justify x.x.1 on one machine and x.x.2 on > another, but I woul

Re: Need some help with \include "makam.ly"

2009-08-17 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 12:07:44PM +0100, Joseph Wakeling wrote: > Neil Puttock wrote: > > Can you suggest any improvements for this snippet's documentation? It > > does already mention where the pitch names are defined (ly/makam.ly). > > An actual link to LM section 4.6.3 would help. Also, the

Re: Need some help with \include "makam.ly"

2009-08-17 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 01:02:23PM +0100, Joseph Wakeling wrote: > So it seems worthwhile to gradually build up the > available documentation on them until a more extensive description is > completed and can be incorporated into its own part of the docs. I told you how to "build up the available d

Re: Wideining one measure so that dynamics don't overlap

2009-08-17 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 01:56:04PM -0400, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Hi Reinhold, > >> How can I make that one measure wider, while all other measures are >> spaced normally? > > Here are a couple of ideas: > 1. \override the NoteColumn #'X-extent > 2. \override the Score.NonMusicalPaperCo

Re: Automatically checking regtests (was: Re: Minor releases?)

2009-08-17 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 05:17:08PM +0200, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: > Am Montag, 17. August 2009 16:08:36 schrieb Michael Käppler: > > > > > (nobody checks the regression tests for each release, for example > > > -- and that's trivially done with a web browser!) > > > > That reminds me of an idea I

Re: Need some help with \include "makam.ly"

2009-08-17 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:41:07PM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: > > Graham Percival wrote Monday, August 17, 2009 11:30 AM > >>> I know the snippet documentation is meant to be brief but why not >>> add a >>> note-name table >> Trevor: the actual tabl

Re: Automatically checking regtests (was: Re: Minor releases?)

2009-08-17 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:55:37PM +0100, Neil Puttock wrote: > 2009/8/17 Graham Percival : > > > Yes.  All it takes is bookmarking the site, checking it whenever > > there's a release, and reporting any broken examples.  However, > > nobody is willing to commit to

Re: arbitrary TeX expressions in a score?

2009-08-18 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 03:41:24PM +0200, denis.roe...@loria.fr wrote: > is it possible to include some arbitrary TeX expression in a score? > Let's assume that for some reason I want to add $\int_0^\infty ...$ > above a note. Can it be done? I assume that in the worst case I can > produce an image

Re: arbitrary TeX expressions in a score?

2009-08-18 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 09:20:50PM +0200, denis.roe...@loria.fr wrote: > Quoting Graham Percival : > >> There's no easier way. Producing an eps and including that in a >> markup is the only way. If you want lots of introductory >> explanations, you could use lil

Re: arbitrary TeX expressions in a score?

2009-08-18 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 09:58:46PM +0200, denis.roe...@loria.fr wrote: > >> With the possible exception of the font commands for markup or >> things like the current date and time, I don't think that lilypond >> output should depend on the computer. > > Doesn't it already depend on a LaTeX installa

Re: Need some help with \include "makam.ly"

2009-08-18 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 01:00:10PM +0100, Joseph Wakeling wrote: > Trevor Daniels wrote: > >> Trevor: the actual table goes in pitches.itely (obviously), while > >> we should add a NR 2.9.2 Makam or Turkish or something. I guess > >> that section will only contain a "References for..." subsection,

Re: Minor releases?

2009-08-19 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 10:51:40AM -0400, David Raleigh Arnold wrote: > What I do not understand is how "mere" bugfixes are irrelevant to the > user of stable releases. Seems to me that fixes are the most important > factors, if not the only factors, in making a choice of *minor* versions > of stab

Re: arbitrary TeX expressions in a score?

2009-08-19 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 06:04:41PM +0200, denis.roe...@loria.fr wrote: > >> My first instinct is that something like this could be fixed, >> although not without a proper minimal example. > > Sorry, I should have posted a minimal example. Here is one: > > http://www.loria.fr/~roegel/tmp/test.tex

Re: polyphony in tablature

2009-08-21 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 09:46:16AM +0200, Marc Hohl wrote: > WARNING: Unable to load the map file > Undefined subroutine &main:: called at > /home/marc/git/lilypond/Documentation/lilypond-texi2html.init line 743. > make[2]: *** [out-test/collated-files.html] Error 255 > rm /home/marc/git/lilypond

Re: GDP and (Learning Manual and Notation Reference)

2009-08-21 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 11:43:24AM -0400, Ralph Palmer wrote: > Is the GDP dead? Yes, but there's always room for more doc work. Also, GDP2 might start in a month or two. > If not, is there anything ready for indexing? If not, > should I start working on reviewing something? I would be willing t

Re: Naturals & Accidental_engraver

2009-08-21 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 03:13:40PM +0700, Simon Mackenzie wrote: > It will be helpful not to think about the problem from the Lilypond side > of things. No, that will not be helpful. Stop and go back to read the tutorial. Pay attention to the warnings about key signatures and accidentals. The

Re: Lilypond language definition for Notepad++

2009-08-21 Thread Graham Percival
Many of those words are from bagpipe.ly and related non-automatically-included files. I'm not certain they *should* be included in that list. There are some properties that probably should be included, but I'd caution anybody to check that those properties really aren't included in the most lates

Re: polyphony in tablature

2009-08-21 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 01:54:07PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: > Le vendredi 21 août 2009 à 08:49 +0100, Graham Percival a écrit : > > You're using texinfo < 1.8.2. Yes, it would be nice if the > > configure script checked for the doc-building programs (this > > requ

website gradients

2009-08-21 Thread Graham Percival
Hi Patrick, The voting results are quite inconclusive: Solid: 4 "Gradients are easier to see, but solids are easier to read": 3 Gradients: 8 (with a different color scheme) If we interpret the "see/read" option as a cautious vote for solids, then we almost have a tie. ... oh wait, I didn't cou

Re: website menus: gradient vs. solid

2009-08-21 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 07:51:01PM -0400, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Hi Graham, >> Please DO NOT complain that brown gradients doesn't fit the color >> scheme; changing the colors (either of the gradients or the rest >> of the page) is easy. > > Regardless, you've likely skewed the poll results [whi

box sizes in lilypond-book vs. normal

2009-08-21 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 11:48:12PM +0200, denis.roe...@loria.fr wrote: > http://www.loria.fr/~roegel/tmp/test.tex > http://www.loria.fr/~roegel/tmp/score.ly > > To compile: > > lilypond-book --pdf --o=out test.tex > cd out > pdflatex test > > Observe: difference between squares in text and score.

Re: polyphony in tablature

2009-08-21 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 11:31:04PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: > Le vendredi 21 août 2009 à 21:53 +0100, Graham Percival a écrit : > > Ah, I was unclear. It checks for texi2html (oops, I meant to say > > that above!), but not the version number. > > Does it really on your

Re: GDP and (Learning Manual and Notation Reference)

2009-08-21 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 01:57:29PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: > Le vendredi 21 août 2009 à 08:54 +0100, Graham Percival a écrit : > > LM 5 is being moved into the AU, > > What's the rationale for this? I must have missed in some discussion on > the lists, but I couldn&

Re: Accidental_engraver & Naturals

2009-08-23 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 10:03:13PM +0700, Simon Mackenzie wrote: > I haven't been able to figure out how to replicate the three naturals on > this music sheet using Lilypond script? > Any ideas? Yes. My idea is that you should read: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond-learn

Re: Accidentals: Unwanted naturals

2009-08-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:39:37AM -0700, Sona wrote: > I'm new to Lilypond and the list. So far the code is pretty > intuitive, but I am stumped by the way accidentals work. Several > posts deal with this subject, but probably are beyond a novice's > ability to undertand. No. Those posts tried

Re: Accidentals: Unwanted naturals

2009-08-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 08:46:59AM -0500, Tim McNamara wrote: > > For the developers, I think that something is confusing here for English > speakers: the use of -es and -is for flatted and sharped notes as the > default. I was initially bewildered by this, not knowing that the > default conve

Re: Accidentals: Unwanted naturals

2009-08-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 10:05:45AM -0400, Leonardo Herrera wrote: > I do have a suggestion: I would add two examples to the section that > shows this clearly. How is that more clear than: In this example: \key d \major d cis fis No note has a printed accidental, but you must still

Re: Rhythm

2009-08-26 Thread Graham Percival
You're not writing g8 to get a fourth 16th note; you're writing g8 to get an eighth note. Evidently your source material (I haven't looked at the youtube video myself) has two 16s and one 8th note. Cheers, - Graham On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 02:18:16PM -0400, Christian Henning wrote: > Considering

Re: Have a title page, but also default headers on first score page

2009-08-28 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 04:30:58AM +0200, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > So I have had a look at the code and found > scoreTitleMarkup = \markup \null BTW, this would probably be better written as scoreTitleMarkup = ##f > But there is one last thing: > How can I get the copyright notice on

Re: Accidentals: Unwanted naturals

2009-08-28 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 01:34:28PM -0400, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > I would just hope (and certainly voice my desire) that the powers that be > — Han-Wen, Graham, etc. — would not add such a function to the base > distribution, nor give it any serious face-time in the documentation. Rest assured

Re: Accidentals: Unwanted naturals

2009-08-28 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:33:08AM -0400, David Raleigh Arnold wrote: > It is also perfectly reasonable for a person who has been writing > music for decades for it to make no sense. Why? Because it > makes no sense, and never did. Welcome to Western musical notation. If you want something to m

Re: Accidentals: Unwanted naturals

2009-08-28 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:01:05PM -0700, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > > If the above seems confusing, consider this: if you were > > playing a > > piano, which key would you hit? If you would press a black > > key, > > then you must add -is or -es to the note name! > > The hint at the end about black

Re: Accidentals: Unwanted naturals

2009-08-28 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:40:41PM -0700, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > > > Yes, but most novices with no knowledge of lilypond or music > > theory won't be writing in 5 sharps or flats, double-sharps > > or flats, or b/c e/f sharp/flats. > > These accidentals are common. B-sharp crops up in jazz tune

Re: Accidentals: Unwanted naturals

2009-08-29 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 04:13:56PM -0400, David Raleigh Arnold wrote: > But in this instance, the majority of coders line up in opposition. > You have shouted down the users, but convinced none. Why? Because > you are wrong. We don't care. We don't have to. We're the telephone company. Cheers,

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 02:15:50PM +0200, Joseph Wakeling wrote: >(iii) What are the restrictions on including examples from actual > contemporary scores? I'm not thinking huge extracts, but maybe > a couple of bars from a known work just to illustrate how a > partic

Re: Lilypond Speed

2009-09-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 10:52:13PM +0200, Valentin Villenave wrote: > Actually, I stumbled upon something very odd: though I haven't the > exact numbers, with 2.12 my opera used to compile in ~40 minutes on > Win32, ~25 minutes on Linux64 -- but now that I have upgraded to the > latest git sources

Re: Making the .texi files

2009-09-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 05:09:58PM +0200, Joseph Wakeling wrote: > When I'm testing my doc revisions I check them by attempting to build > the docs, at least as far as the .texi files (in fact, I've been having > problems building the HTML/PDF docs which seem to be down to failing > regression test

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