Jazz chords

2012-05-21 Thread rosea.grammostola
Hi, What is the status of this? http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2011-11/msg00285.html I'm searching for a way to display A7(#5) Regards, \r ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo

Jazz Chords

2005-08-28 Thread Jonathan Townes
I've been searching for a way to customize chord superscript. I found the example for chord-name-major7.ly  but would like to customize minor 7th chords too. Also, I have not found a way to print 13th chords (C7/b9/13) without 'add' (C7/9/add13).-Jonathan \paper { indent = 0\mm raggedlastbottom =

jazz chords

2005-12-14 Thread Kenneth Teh
I know this is an old topic and various folks have discussed this at length on this list. Nonetheless, I'd like to throw in a few more remarks on the subject. It's true that the jazz chord names printed by lilypond are weird from a jazz perspective and it is also true that there is a mechanism vi

Jazz chords

2002-06-24 Thread Jule Slootbeek
Hey list/maintainers I have a couple of sugestions for your jazz chords, I'm using them to typeset a couple of tunes i play w/ some guys, in stead of reading from a realbook, and i noticed some things. 1) When i use the chord c:9- I think it's going to give me C7(b9) but in stead it

jazz chords fretboards

2011-07-10 Thread bart deruyter
Hi all, I'm starting to learn Jazz guitar on my own, well, with a friend of mine who'd be singing. I have no teacher, but I've noticed there are many, many resources on the net. I've found this pdf

Re: Jazz chords

2012-05-21 Thread lilypond
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 05:51:25PM +0200, rosea.grammostola wrote: > Hi, > > What is the status of this? > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2011-11/msg00285.html What do you mean by 'status'? It works for me. I've tweaked the markup to suit my tastes, and have added some additio

Re: Jazz chords

2012-05-22 Thread rosea.grammostola
On 05/22/2012 12:47 AM, lilyp...@umpquanet.com wrote: On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 05:51:25PM +0200, rosea.grammostola wrote: Hi, What is the status of this? http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2011-11/msg00285.html What do you mean by 'status'? It works for me. I've tweaked the mark

Re: Jazz chords

2012-05-22 Thread Choan Gálvez
On 5/22/12 16:53 , rosea.grammostola wrote: On 05/22/2012 12:47 AM, lilyp...@umpquanet.com wrote: On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 05:51:25PM +0200, rosea.grammostola wrote: Hi, What is the status of this? http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2011-11/msg00285.html What do you mean by 'stat

Re: Jazz chords

2012-05-22 Thread rosea.grammostola
On 05/22/2012 04:57 PM, Choan Gálvez wrote: On 5/22/12 16:53 , rosea.grammostola wrote: On 05/22/2012 12:47 AM, lilyp...@umpquanet.com wrote: On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 05:51:25PM +0200, rosea.grammostola wrote: Hi, What is the status of this? http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2011

Re: Jazz chords

2012-05-22 Thread rosea.grammostola
On 05/22/2012 04:57 PM, Choan Gálvez wrote: On 5/22/12 16:53 , rosea.grammostola wrote: On 05/22/2012 12:47 AM, lilyp...@umpquanet.com wrote: On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 05:51:25PM +0200, rosea.grammostola wrote: Hi, What is the status of this? http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2011

jazz chords superscript

2007-05-06 Thread steve berthiaume
hello, i'm trying to define a set of custom chords for use in jazz charts, and i would like to be able to have the numbers (7, 9, 11, 13, etc) raised above the chord name. I use Brandt-Roemer standardized chord notation, so my chords look like Cmi7, Cma9, Cdim, Cmi7b5 etc. I've checked out the

Re: Jazz Chords

2005-08-29 Thread VSD
(please always specify which version of lilypond are you using. I can only assure that the following works from version 2.4.2 up to the latest) take a look at chord-name-exceptions.ly in the regression tests. it shows how to customize how the chord names are displayed. you can add as many ch

Re: jazz chords

2005-12-15 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Kenneth Teh wrote: It seems to me that based on these observations, what Lilypond needs is a context for creating chord names that (1) does not try to actually build chords, ie, the MIDI output produces nothing. This way you avoid all the problems associated with trying to describe a voicing w

Re: jazz chords

2005-12-15 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
On Wednesday 14 December 2005 09:39 pm, Kenneth Teh wrote: > I know this is an old topic and various folks have > discussed this at length on this list. Nonetheless, > I'd like to throw in a few more remarks on the > subject. > > It's true that the jazz chord names printed by > lilypond are weird

Re: jazz chords

2005-12-15 Thread Kenneth Teh
--- Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Kenneth Teh wrote: > > It seems to me that based on these observations, > what > > Lilypond needs is a context for creating chord > names > > that > > > > (1) does not try to actually build chords, ie, the > > MIDI output produces nothing. T

Re: jazz chords

2005-12-16 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Kenneth Teh wrote: You have a mechanism for defining new contexts. Would it be possible to use this mechanism for this purpose? For the price I set, I will write a new engraver, and also change the syntax slightly. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen Li

Re: jazz chords

2005-12-16 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
On Thursday 15 December 2005 11:17 pm, Kenneth Teh wrote: > > --- Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Kenneth Teh wrote: > > > It seems to me that based on these observations, > > what > > > Lilypond needs is a context for creating chord > > names > > > that > > > > > > (1) do

Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-05-29 Thread Grammostola Rosea
chords improvement. How far is this process? Maybe it's an idea to brainstorm a bit about how we want Jazz chords to be displayed? Maybe some interested people can form a group like the 'tablature group' does? Kind regards, \r __

Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-07-12 Thread David Fedoruk
-- Forwarded message -- From: David Fedoruk Date: Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 4:25 PM Subject: Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords To: "Carl D. Sorensen" Hello: I've seen a number of people talking about the "right" way to name chords used in jazz. The problem is t

RE: jazz chords fretboards

2011-07-10 Thread James Lowe
Bart )-Original Message- )From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org )[mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org] On )Behalf Of bart deruyter )Sent: 10 July 2011 09:25 )To: lilypond-user@gnu.org )Subject: jazz chords fretboards ) )Hi all, ) )I&#

Re: jazz chords fretboards

2011-07-10 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 7/10/11 2:25 AM, "bart deruyter" wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm starting to learn Jazz guitar on my own, well, with a friend of mine who'd > be singing. I have no teacher, but I've noticed there are many, many resources > on the net. > I've found this pdf >

Re: jazz chords superscript

2007-05-07 Thread Mats Bengtsson
What LilyPond version do you use? Please always try to include a complete (but short) example of LilyPond code, that can be run directly through LilyPond, which shows what you have tried, when sending a question to the mailing list. I suspect that the problem is not the \super command, which i

re: jazz chords superscript

2007-05-07 Thread steve berthiaume
mats advice helped; i'll post the code as reference for anyone else. note: i'm still trying to decode the regression test- what's the "ignatzek" thing all about? is that something someone added to lilypond, and the program will know what to do with it? here's the code: \version "2.10.20"

Re: jazz chords superscript

2007-05-07 Thread Eyolf Oestrem
On 07.05.2007 (12:51), steve berthiaume wrote: note: i'm still trying to decode the regression test- what's the "ignatzek" thing all about? is that something someone added to lilypond, and the program will know what to do with it? "Ignatzek" is an unfunctional set of chord designations whic

jazz chords in LilyPond

2007-07-18 Thread PabloZum
I have developed my own chord name font, "Cifrado", which I use to print scores in other programs. With it, I'm able to print complex jazz chords with fewer keystrokes (e.g., "A7#9b13" is input just with "ax;"). I've been trying to make OooLilyPond use

Questions about Jazz chords

2005-11-20 Thread Kees Serier
Hello, I'm trying to learn LilyPond, I previously used abcm2ps and abctab2ps, since Lily combines both, and knows how to print complex cordnames. I want a B13 chordname, so I try b:13, but that gives me a B9/add13, which may be correct, but is not what I want. How do I get a flat sign in front o

Re: Jazz chords layout question

2019-07-12 Thread Robert Schmaus
Hi Jaques, I guess I can answer some of your questions .. The box issue: check out the mark formatter settings here: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/bars.en.html#rehearsal-marks For the percent repeats to appear in a ChordNames context, you'll need to have it accept percen

Re: Jazz chords layout question

2019-07-12 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 7/12/19, 12:33 PM, "Jacques Menu" wrote: Hello folks, I’m trying to setup the attached example as in the following, with an added staff containing empty measures as an exercise score: What I currently get is: Questions: -

Re: Jazz chords layout question

2019-07-12 Thread Jacques Menu
Hello Robert and Carl,Thanks for your help!To summurize, after checking the docs for marks: - why do the marks appear without a box around them? because using ‘\mark "A"’ precludes the box. Since the AABA scheme is so common in jazz, using: \mark \markup {\box "A" } solves the issue. - why doe

Re: Jazz chords layout question

2019-07-12 Thread Jacques Menu
Another, tricky ‘solution', though musically incorrect since: - it doesn’t use \repeat: the repeat barlines are added manually; - it adds two hidden skip full measures to push the seconda volta to the right.However:  \set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta ""))  <> ^\markup {    \scale #'(1.5 . 1.5) 

Re: Jazz chords layout question

2019-07-13 Thread Robin Bannister
Jacques Menu wrote: - how can I ‘push’ the beginning of the seconda volta to the middle of the line? You could try a recent hack of mine. %% % cheap alternative to \new Score; fragile wrt. Y positioning pseudoIndent = #(define-music-function (parser location

Re: Jazz chords layout question

2019-07-14 Thread Michael Hendry
> On 14 Jul 2019, at 00:30, Jacques Menu wrote: > > Hello Robin, > > Thanks, the result is already better, with the seconda volta at the right > place after adjusting the parameter of \pseudoIndent. > > Didn’t find a way to hide the empty part of the staff to the left of it, > stopStaff/start

Re: Jazz chords layout question

2019-07-14 Thread Thomas Morley
Hi Jacques, Am So., 14. Juli 2019 um 01:30 Uhr schrieb Jacques Menu : > > Hello Robin, > > Thanks, the result is already better, with the seconda volta at the right > place after adjusting the parameter of \pseudoIndent. > > Didn’t find a way to hide the empty part of the staff to the left of it

Re: Jazz chords layout question

2019-07-14 Thread Robin Bannister
Jacques Menu wrote: Didn’t find a way to hide the empty part of the staff to the left of it, stopStaff/startStaff didn’t help. Sorry. This simplistic pseudoIndent is too fragile for general use. It needs to be made robust re vertical extents. In your case you need a LeftEdge.Y-offset of -4

Re: Jazz chords layout question

2019-07-14 Thread Robin Bannister
Oh dear, that recommendation was for your first code. The bass clef code needs a LeftEdge.Y-offset of -5 Cheers, Robin On 14.07.2019 12:10, Robin Bannister wrote: Jacques Menu wrote: Didn’t find a way to hide the empty part of the staff to the left of it, stopStaff/startStaff didn’t help.

Re: Jazz chords layout question

2019-12-08 Thread Thomas Morley
Am So., 14. Juli 2019 um 17:46 Uhr schrieb Jacques Menu : > > Thnks Robin and Harm. > > Here: > > % \showLeftEdge > \pseudoIndent #'(-8 . 0) #55 > > works fine, I attach the results. > > JM > > > Le 14 juil. 2019 à 16:39, Robin Bannister a écrit : > > Oh dear, that recommendation was fo

Re: Jazz chords layout question

2019-12-08 Thread Robin Bannister
Thomas Morley wrote: meanwhile a snippet arrived at LSR caring about indenting individual lines, reflecting the discussion in this thread. Now approved as http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=1098 Thanks to the author, You're welcome. Also, feedback welcome! Cheers, Robin

Printing Jazz Chords; Lilypond 2.10.33

2008-06-02 Thread Frank Dieckmann
Hi, how can I print Chordnames like Gmb6? I didn't succseed with \new ChordNames { \set chordChange = ##t \chordmode { g1:m-6 %or g:m6- or g:m6_ ... } } Where can I find a good explanation. I don't get around with the tutorial - to me it's too fast, too c

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-05-29 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
may try to make it happen then. > > Maybe it's an idea to brainstorm a bit about how we want Jazz chords to > be displayed? Maybe some interested people can form a group like the > 'tablature group' does? I'd welcome people creating documents that describe how chor

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-05-29 Thread Grammostola Rosea
ry to make it happen then. Would be great! Maybe it's an idea to brainstorm a bit about how we want Jazz chords to be displayed? Maybe some interested people can form a group like the 'tablature group' does? I'd welcome people creating documents that describe how

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-05-30 Thread Brett Duncan
Grammostola Rosea wrote: Maybe it's an idea to brainstorm a bit about how we want Jazz chords to be displayed? Maybe some interested people can form a group like the 'tablature group' does? I'd welcome people creating documents that describe how chord naming should

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-05-30 Thread Tao Cumplido
Original-Nachricht > Datum: Fri, 29 May 2009 16:21:21 +0200 > Von: Grammostola Rosea > An: "Carl D. Sorensen" > CC: lilypond-user > Betreff: Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords > Do we have an Jazz/pop chord expert on the list (I'm sure he/she exis

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-05-30 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
rt but I do know some display methods for > chords. I don't know if pop chords differ much from jazz though but if it's > for sharing knowledge on jazz chords count me in. > I could make a table with a rough overview of the variations for chord names I > am aware of and ma

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-05-30 Thread Tim McNamara
play methods for chords. I don't know if pop chords differ much from jazz though but if it's for sharing knowledge on jazz chords count me in. I could make a table with a rough overview of the variations for chord names I am aware of and maybe some information on different typogra

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-05-30 Thread Grammostola Rosea
now some display methods for chords. I don't know if pop chords differ much from jazz though but if it's for sharing knowledge on jazz chords count me in. I could make a table with a rough overview of the variations for chord names I am aware of and maybe some information on different

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-05-30 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
>>>> can get my head around Scheme. >>>> >>>> Brett >>> >>> On 5/30/09 3:32 AM, "Tao Cumplido" wrote: >>> >>>> Original-Nachricht >>>> >>>>> Do we have an Jazz/pop chor

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-05-30 Thread David Stocker
plido" wrote: Original-Nachricht Do we have an Jazz/pop chord expert on the list (I'm sure he/she exist)? And who wants to help with this? I wouldn't call myself an expert but I do know some display methods for chords. I don't know if pop chords differ m

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-05-30 Thread Valentin Villenave
2009/5/29 Carl D. Sorensen : >> If I remember well, Carl has said that he was planning to work on the >> chords improvement. How far is this process? > > Not at all started.  It's still floating around in the back of my head.  I'm > flying to England in June, with a long layover in New York City,

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-05-30 Thread Brett Duncan
Carl D. Sorensen wrote: My currently-planned starting point for chord naming is http://www.dolmetsch.com/musictheory17.htm#namechords If you have any disagreement with this reference, please let me know. It looks like a good starting point to me - there are a couple of things that don't appe

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-05-30 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 5/30/09 5:15 PM, "Brett Duncan" wrote: > Carl D. Sorensen wrote: > My currently-planned starting point for chord naming is > > http://www.dolmetsch.com/musictheory17.htm#namechords > > If you have any disagreement with this reference, please let me know. > > It looks

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-05-30 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 5/30/09 7:16 PM, "Carl D. Sorensen" wrote: > Right now we have a naming problem, separate from the display problem. If > we can get the code to recognize that we have a Ebmaj7b5, then we can figure > out how to display it in a way that the users will like. Right now, we > haven't had much

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-05-30 Thread Tim McNamara
On May 30, 2009, at 8:23 PM, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: On 5/30/09 7:16 PM, "Carl D. Sorensen" wrote: Right now we have a naming problem, separate from the display problem. If we can get the code to recognize that we have a Ebmaj7b5, then we can figure out how to display it in a way that

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-05-30 Thread Brett Duncan
Carl D. Sorensen wrote: I assume that there would still have to be some means of creating exceptions. If someone wants chords named mainly in the Real Book style, but with minors notated slightly differently ( Cm / Cmi / C- ) for example, would they find themselves having to put together a large

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-05-31 Thread Tao Cumplido
The list on Dolmetsch isn't too bad but it's a little confusing in my opinion. I think it'd be better to categorize the ways in which a single chord note is affected (or a set of notes) rather than naming all variations for each chord. For example it lists three variations for a minor triad (m, m

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-05-31 Thread Grammostola Rosea
Tao Cumplido wrote: The list on Dolmetsch isn't too bad but it's a little confusing in my opinion. I think it'd be better to categorize the ways in which a single chord note is affected (or a set of notes) rather than naming all variations for each chord. For example it lists three variations f

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-05-31 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 5/30/09 10:55 PM, "Brett Duncan" wrote: > Carl D. Sorensen wrote: >>> I assume that there would still have to be some means of creating >>> exceptions. If someone wants chords named mainly in the Real Book style, >>> but with minors notated slightly differently ( Cm / Cmi / C- ) for >>> exa

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-05-31 Thread Johannes Schöpfer
Hi, As I already said some time ago when I made my own chordnames functions, I still believe chordnames should be seperated from chords, or at least chords shouldn't produce chordnames since it'll never be clear. And the other way round there can also occur problems, i.e. with C7alt., how sho

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-05-31 Thread Grammostola Rosea
Johannes Schöpfer wrote: Hi, As I already said some time ago when I made my own chordnames functions, I still believe chordnames should be seperated from chords, or at least chords shouldn't produce chordnames since it'll never be clear. And the other way round there can also occur problems,

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-05-31 Thread Thomas
hi, just one idea to think about: if you read Werner Pöhlert's "Basic Harmoy" (a very thick volume) he explains that every move from chord to chord is a fifth (= = half-step), so if you want to produce consistent jazzchord names from given notes, the most logical think would be to analyse the no

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-05-31 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 5/31/09 7:34 AM, "Johannes Schöpfer" wrote: > Hi, > >> As I already said some time ago when I made my own chordnames functions, I >> still believe chordnames should be seperated from chords, or at least chords >> shouldn't produce chordnames since it'll never be clear. And the other way >>

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-06-01 Thread Tim Rowe
ase is valuable of course. Beyond trivial cases, a combination of notes does not have /a/ name, it has many names depending on the musical context. For jazz chords, the chord notes and the chord names really need to be separated (perhaps an optional name following the notes) unless the software can unde

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-06-01 Thread Tim McNamara
boundaries closer to that general case is valuable of course. Beyond trivial cases, a combination of notes does not have /a/ name, it has many names depending on the musical context. For jazz chords, the chord notes and the chord names really need to be separated (perhaps an optional name

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-06-01 Thread Thomas
en the Dbmin/D very likely has a dominant or tonic finction within this chain (depending on the rest of this song) and could be named after this function ... but that would be more difficult to read probably. Don't let me be misunderstood... thats just brainstorming about naming jazz chords

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-06-01 Thread Marc Hohl
hat tonic, then the Dbmin/D very likely has a dominant or tonic finction within this chain (depending on the rest of this song) and could be named after this function ... but that would be more difficult to read probably. Don't let me be misunderstood... thats just brainstorming abo

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-06-01 Thread Grammostola Rosea
ainstorming about naming jazz chords in general (and how chord names sometimes obscure whats going on harmonically) ... to implement something like this would be very difficult, I guess ... I'm only starting to work with lilypond and didn't want to introduce overambitiuos goals. I think

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-06-01 Thread Grammostola Rosea
, although pushing the boundaries closer to that general case is valuable of course. Beyond trivial cases, a combination of notes does not have /a/ name, it has many names depending on the musical context. For jazz chords, the chord notes and the chord names really need to be separated (perhaps an

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-06-01 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
. Beyond >>> trivial cases, a combination of notes does not have /a/ name, it has >>> many names depending on the musical context. For jazz chords, the >>> chord notes and the chord names really need to be separated (perhaps >>> an optional name following the

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-06-01 Thread lasconic
://www.nabble.com/Lilypond-and-Jazz-chords-tp23778843p23820508.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-06-01 Thread Tim McNamara
erent musical systems. I am only familiar with what he calls "American jazz chords" and would be out to sea if a German chart was placed in front of me- or one of the many other notation systems with which I am unfamiliar. Heck, I am out to sea often enough with American ja

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-06-01 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
s >> note), and >> everything else about the chord would be in the form of a markup. For >> american jazz chords, this functionality seems to be feasible (but it >> couldn't handle the german practice of making minor chords have a >> lower case >> root

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-06-01 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 6/1/09 1:45 PM, "lasconic" wrote: > > > Hi, > Just in case it can be helpful, someone (Karl) post a pdf he wrote on > MuseScore (http://www.musescore.org) mailing list about chord name display. > Musescore is a free GPL WYSIWYG scorewriter (with lilypond export > capabilities) > Maybe it

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-06-01 Thread Brett Duncan
Carl D. Sorensen wrote: As far as I can see, there is very little hope for LilyPond making the right decision about this chord entered in note mode. The first note is not the root of the chord, so it would require substantial computation time to try to identify the chord properly (and there's no

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-06-02 Thread Jean-Alexis Montignies
Hi there, as a jazz player I would like to share my input. What I need in scores is really chord names. The chord name denotes the intent of the composer and is much subject to interpretation. Some examples: If you have a dominant chord, you write G7. Most of the time, the pianist will not

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-06-02 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 6/2/09 3:55 AM, "Jean-Alexis Montignies" wrote: > Hi there, as a jazz player I would like to share my input. Thanks for sharing, Jean-Alexis. > > What I need in scores is really chord names. > The chord name denotes the intent of the composer and is much subject > to interpretation. > >

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-06-02 Thread Tim McNamara
On Jun 2, 2009, at 4:55 AM, Jean-Alexis Montignies wrote: Hi there, as a jazz player I would like to share my input. What I need in scores is really chord names. The chord name denotes the intent of the composer and is much subject to interpretation. Some examples: If you have a dominant c

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-06-02 Thread Jean-Alexis Montignies
1) I had some difficulties to write the Alt chords (for me it's based on the superlocrian scale 1 2- 2+ 3 4+ 6- (or 5+) 7-) because the scale has two seconds. (Note that the diminished scale cannot be written for now with the chord notation, if you ever want to write a 8 note chord ;) ). Th

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-06-09 Thread Grammostola Rosea
ception list is that it doesn't handle slash chords; I hope to be able fix that. I'm using exception with slash chords and have no problems. However I don't think there is a way of entering polychords chords. (I don't need that -yet- :) ). Thanks, Carl Carl, have you

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-06-09 Thread Jean-Alexis Montignies
Lilypond of other programs will never be able to interpret notes as chords (even humans can't do that because there are always ambiguities). I think the more sensitive approach for pop and jazz is a chord library with a string as input (maj7) and as output a notation as markup for chord sym

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-06-09 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 6/9/09 9:16 AM, "Jean-Alexis Montignies" wrote: > > You can find an example of a chord notated as 'phrygian' (well it's more a > modal indication, but that's what the composer Gary Peacock intended) in the > lead sheet for Vignette. > More arguments for using names: Alt is much more easy

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-06-09 Thread Tim McNamara
On Jun 9, 2009, at 11:25 AM, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: On 6/9/09 9:16 AM, "Jean-Alexis Montignies" wrote: You can find an example of a chord notated as 'phrygian' (well it's more a modal indication, but that's what the composer Gary Peacock intended) in the lead sheet for Vignette. More

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-06-09 Thread kzt
Hi, You can find an example of a chord notated as 'phrygian' (well it's more a modal indication, but that's what the composer Gary Peacock intended) in the lead sheet for Vignette. More arguments for using names: Alt is much more easy to write and read, less error prone than: 7.3-.5-.9-.11-

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-06-10 Thread Tao Cumplido
> But as I said before, if anybody wants to create a chordname input mode > that > takes a root, and arbitrary name string, and an optional added bass, > they're > welcome to do so. http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2009-02/msg00293.html The input-mode is a little constructed but it

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-06-10 Thread Grammostola Rosea
kzt wrote: Hi, You can find an example of a chord notated as 'phrygian' (well it's more a modal indication, but that's what the composer Gary Peacock intended) in the lead sheet for Vignette. More arguments for using names: Alt is much more easy to write and read, less error prone than: 7.

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-06-10 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 6/10/09 2:03 AM, "Tao Cumplido" wrote: >> But as I said before, if anybody wants to create a chordname input mode >> that >> takes a root, and arbitrary name string, and an optional added bass, >> they're >> welcome to do so. > > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2009-02/msg0

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-06-11 Thread Jean-Alexis Montignies
Le 10 juin 09 à 02:11, kzt a écrit : Hi, You can find an example of a chord notated as 'phrygian' (well it's more a modal indication, but that's what the composer Gary Peacock intended) in the lead sheet for Vignette. More arguments for using names: Alt is much more easy to write and r

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-06-11 Thread Tao Cumplido
> I think it's great that you did this. Have you put this on LSR? Thanks. I haven't put this on LSR yet because the function hasn't been much tested yet. Maybe I should have done anyway. When the function is updated I will upload it there. > Perhaps we should consider adding this to the distrib

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-06-12 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 6/12/09 12:28 AM, "Tao Cumplido" wrote: >> I think it's great that you did this. Have you put this on LSR? > > Thanks. I haven't put this on LSR yet because the function hasn't been much > tested yet. Maybe I should have done anyway. > When the function is updated I will upload it there.

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-06-12 Thread Tim McNamara
On Jun 12, 2009, at 1:28 AM, Tao Cumplido wrote: I think it's great that you did this. Have you put this on LSR? Thanks. I haven't put this on LSR yet because the function hasn't been much tested yet. Maybe I should have done anyway. When the function is updated I will upload it there.

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-06-13 Thread Jean-Alexis Montignies
Le 9 juin 09 à 18:25, Carl D. Sorensen a écrit : On 6/9/09 9:16 AM, "Jean-Alexis Montignies" wrote: You can find an example of a chord notated as 'phrygian' (well it's more a modal indication, but that's what the composer Gary Peacock intended) in the lead sheet for Vignette. More

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-06-13 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 6/12/09 9:10 AM, "Tim McNamara" wrote: > > > On Jun 12, 2009, at 1:28 AM, Tao Cumplido wrote: > >>> I think it's great that you did this. Have you put this on LSR? >> >> Thanks. I haven't put this on LSR yet because the function hasn't >> been much tested yet. Maybe I should have done

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-06-15 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message , Carl D. Sorensen writes But there is a (to me) surprisingly large contingent of users who claim that there is no well-defined connection between chord names and chord notes, and that they want total control over the symbols to be displayed. And the lyricChordNames functionality is

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-06-15 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Wol et al: Let's take the notes C, Eb, F, Ab. Which chord is that? What's the root? You can easily go from the name to the notes, but not the other way round. We *could* parse it from the first note, i.e. in relative mode and would display as the same chord (close harmony), bu

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-06-15 Thread kztone
Anthony W. Youngman wrote: In message , Carl D. Sorensen writes But there is a (to me) surprisingly large contingent of users who claim that there is no well-defined connection between chord names and chord notes, and that they want total control over the symbols to be displayed. And the lyr

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-06-15 Thread Tim McNamara
On Jun 15, 2009, at 2:00 PM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Wol et al: Let's take the notes C, Eb, F, Ab. Which chord is that? What's the root? You can easily go from the name to the notes, but not the other way round. We *could* parse it from the first note, i.e. in relative mode and

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-06-23 Thread Grammostola Rosea
Tim McNamara wrote: On Jun 15, 2009, at 2:00 PM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Wol et al: Let's take the notes C, Eb, F, Ab. Which chord is that? What's the root? You can easily go from the name to the notes, but not the other way round. We *could* parse it from the first note, i.e. in relative

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-06-23 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 6/23/09 9:16 AM, "Grammostola Rosea" wrote: > Tim McNamara wrote: >> >> On Jun 15, 2009, at 2:00 PM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: >> >>> Wol et al: >>> >> Would it be reasonable to separate the functions of putting notes on >> the staff and chord names above the staff, and let the user spell

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-06-23 Thread Tim McNamara
On Jun 23, 2009, at 12:24 PM, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: On 6/23/09 9:16 AM, "Grammostola Rosea" wrote: Tim McNamara wrote: On Jun 15, 2009, at 2:00 PM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Wol et al: Would it be reasonable to separate the functions of putting notes on the staff and chord names abov

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-06-23 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 6/23/09 5:19 PM, "Tim McNamara" wrote: > > > On Jun 23, 2009, at 12:24 PM, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: > >> On 6/23/09 9:16 AM, "Grammostola Rosea" >> wrote: >> >>> Tim McNamara wrote: On Jun 15, 2009, at 2:00 PM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Wol et al: > Would

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-06-23 Thread Tim McNamara
On Jun 23, 2009, at 11:36 PM, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: On 6/23/09 5:19 PM, "Tim McNamara" wrote: On Jun 23, 2009, at 12:24 PM, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: On 6/23/09 9:16 AM, "Grammostola Rosea" wrote: Tim McNamara wrote: On Jun 15, 2009, at 2:00 PM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Wol et al:

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2009-07-10 Thread Grammostola Rosea
Carl D. Sorensen wrote: On 6/23/09 5:19 PM, "Tim McNamara" wrote: On Jun 23, 2009, at 12:24 PM, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: On 6/23/09 9:16 AM, "Grammostola Rosea" wrote: Tim McNamara wrote: On Jun 15, 2009, at 2:00 PM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Wol et al:

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