2.13 default beaming rules need support for tuplets

Also, all the commercial scores I've seen have one tuplet indication per beam (usually omitted after a couple of beams/bars), not a single tuplet indication spanning multiple beams/bars. Shouldn't the default tuplet indication be what is regarded as the standard? \version "2.13.9" changeBeami

Re: Default beaming with tuplets

On 12/26/09 5:47 AM, "Carl Sorensen" wrote: > > > > > On 12/25/09 4:31 AM, "Nick Payne" wrote: > >> Notes in a tuplet by default are getting beamed with notes outside the >> tuplet. Should the default beaming rules be doing this? >> >> \version "2.13.9" >> >> \relative c'' { >> \t

Re: Default beaming with tuplets

On 12/25/09 4:31 AM, "Nick Payne" wrote: > Notes in a tuplet by default are getting beamed with notes outside the > tuplet. Should the default beaming rules be doing this? > > \version "2.13.9" > > \relative c'' { > \time 3/4 > c4. c8 \times 2/3 { c aes g } > } > Nick, If you wa

Re: Default beaming with tuplets

On 12/25/09 4:31 AM, "Nick Payne" wrote: > Notes in a tuplet by default are getting beamed with notes outside the > tuplet. Should the default beaming rules be doing this? No, they should not. Ccing to bug list. I'll look into this some more. > > \version "2.13.9" > > \relative c'' { >

Default beaming with tuplets

Notes in a tuplet by default are getting beamed with notes outside the tuplet. Should the default beaming rules be doing this? \version "2.13.9" \relative c'' { \time 3/4 c4. c8 \times 2/3 { c aes g } } Nick <>___ lilypond-user mailing list l

Re: Automatic beaming of tuplets

On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Nick Payne wrote: > I'm trying to get tupletted sixteenth notes automatically beamed in groups > of three in 3/4 time. The following beams the 16th notes in twos outside the > tuplet, but inside the \times 2/3 {} it doesn't work. Can it be done without > using manu

Automatic beaming of tuplets

I'm trying to get tupletted sixteenth notes automatically beamed in groups of three in 3/4 time. The following beams the 16th notes in twos outside the tuplet, but inside the \times 2/3 {} it doesn't work. Can it be done without using manual beaming? \version "2.13.4" \relative c' { \time

Re: Help - trouble with tuplets

Karenee Herman wrote: Somehow, the bass line ends up offset from the treble The second bar of "lower" should beR2. (for a 3/4 bar). So it's not really the triplets giving trouble. please forgive me if this seems simple! Forgiven. Cheers, Robin _

Re: help with tuplets

For what it's worth, you can change the tuplet number with this command: \override TupletNumber #'text = "2" Here's the example: \version "2.11.62-1" duplet = \once \override TupletNumber #'text = "2" \new Staff \with { \remove Time_signatu

Re: help with tuplets

I agree with Mark (Knoop). > The 2s in the original make no sense, and > look as though they should be 3s (triplets). I wonder, perhaps the composer just meant 3 eighth notes (as if there duplet brackets were removed entirely). Is there 1) a time signature, or 2) a recurring meter delineated

help with tuplets

Anyone can help me with decoding of this music?: Is this correct transcription?: {\times 2/3 {e8 e d} \times 2/3 {e4 f8} \times 4/5 {g16 a c b g} r8 g \times 2/3 {d'8 c b} \times 3/2 {a4 g8} f4 \times 3/2 {g8 f e} \times 2/3 {d4 c8} }

Re: help with tuplets

It is one voice sacred song on slovak text from Eugen Suchon (1908 - 1993) - slovak composer and university professor of composition; one of his late compositions. 2008/10/20 Mark Knoop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > At 10:21 on 20 Oct 2008, Marek Klein wrote: > > Is the fraction 3/2 correct for the group

Re: help with tuplets

At 10:21 on 20 Oct 2008, Marek Klein wrote: > Is the fraction 3/2 correct for the groups with number 2 over it? > Musicaly, I would like better 1/2... Or? The 2s in the original make no sense, and look as though they should be 3s (triplets). But perhaps with some more context they might mean somet

help with tuplets

Anyone can help me with decoding of this music?: Is this correct transcription?: {\times 2/3 {e8 e d} \times 2/3 {e4 f8} \times 4/5 {g16 a c b g} r8 g \times 2/3 {d'8 c b} \times 3/2 {a4 g8} f4 \times 3/2 {g8 f e} \times 2/3 {d4 c8} }

Re: problems with some tuplets

> "M" == Michael Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: M> Just add \once to your lines M> \set tupletSpannerDuration = #(ly:make-moment 5 48) and M> \set tupletSpannerDuration = #(ly:make-moment 3 28) Thanks alot. ___ lilypond-user maili

Re: problems with some tuplets

Just add \once to your lines \set tupletSpannerDuration = #(ly:make-moment 5 48) and \set tupletSpannerDuration = #(ly:make-moment 3 28) You might want to increase the tuplet bracket padding, because the 7 crashes into the middle 3 in bar 2. <>___

problems with some tuplets

Hello. Hopefully someone is able to spot what im doing wrong here. I want to have the second measure grouped as a septuplet with a bracketed 7, just like the first measure. Many other combinations of beats/tuplets measure-length etc. work as intended, but im having troubles with this. It must

Re: Algorithm to calculate tuplets?

Quoting Myron Marston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Isn't there a midi-to-lily converter? I figure that must have an algorithm like this... Yes, midi2ly does include such an algorithm and this is one of the main reasons that midi2ly isn't as useful as it otherwise might be. Of course, an added compli

Re: Algorithm to calculate tuplets?

vely apply this algorithm to this tuplet list Examples: triplet example: step 1: 1/6 1/12 1/12 1/6 step 2: 1/6 step 3: 4 step 4: 4 * 1/6 = 2/3 step 5: 2/3 (1/4 1/8 1/8 1/4) quintuplet example: step 1: 1/5 1/10 1/10 1/5 1/5 1/5 step 2: 1/5 step 3: 4 step 4: 4 * 1/5 = 4/5 step 5: 4/5 (1/4 1/8 1/8 1/4 1/

Re: Algorithm to calculate tuplets?

denominator, > it's not difficult to figure out the correct lilypond notation. But > tuplets are > much more difficult, especially when you get into nested tuplets, tuplets > that > mix durations (i.e. 8ths and 16ths in the same tuplet), etc. > > Does anyone know of an

Algorithm to calculate tuplets?

ed as fractions (i.e. 1/4 for a quarter note, 3/8 for a dotted quarter, 1/6 for one note of a quarter note triplet, etc). As long as my durations have a power of 2 in the denominator, it's not difficult to figure out the correct lilypond notation. But tuplets are much more difficult, especial

Re: tuplets interferring with slurs

2008/4/2, Risto Vääräniemi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The slur may collide with the tuplet number with following conditions: > -tuplet is beamed > -the slur is on the same side as the tuplet number > -the slur starts or ends at the horizontal position of the tuplet number > (such a tuplet is usu

Re: tuplets interferring with slurs

On 02/04/2008, Valentin Villenave wrote: > Hmm. Interesting. > > Can you have a look at > http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/list?q=tuplet+AND+collision > and check if your bug is not listed? If it is not, provide me with a > minimal report and I'll add it. I had a look at the tracker w

Re: tuplets interferring with slurs

2008/4/2, Risto Vääräniemi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Thanks for the tip, Valentin. I normally use .11, though, and I've > found out that the behaviour is pretty much the same on both with > different quirks. Hmm. Interesting. Can you have a look at http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/list?q=

Re: tuplets interferring with slurs

On 02/04/2008, Valentin Villenave wrote: > I noticed both Matthew and you are using 2.10.33. The default spacing > engine has been greatly improved in 2.11.x series, so you might want > to give it a try. Thanks for the tip, Valentin. I normally use .11, though, and I've found out that the behav

Re: tuplets interferring with slurs

2008/4/2, Risto Vääräniemi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 02/04/2008, Risto Vääräniemi wrote: > > On 02/04/2008, Matthew wrote: > > > Do slurs and tuplet brackets know about each other? > I made another image of my example but without the ragged-right > setting. Now LP tries to fit the number und

Re: tuplets interferring with slurs

On 02/04/2008, Risto Vääräniemi wrote: > On 02/04/2008, Matthew wrote: > > Do slurs and tuplet brackets know about each other? > > > > The following code produces a not very nice slur on the second tuplet. > > Additionally, it is very sensitive to the TupletNumber Y-offsett > I've had to c

Re: tuplets interferring with slurs

On 02/04/2008, Matthew wrote: > Do slurs and tuplet brackets know about each other? > > The following code produces a not very nice slur on the second tuplet. > Additionally, it is very sensitive to the TupletNumber Y-offsett I've noticed the same thing but in a different context. The slur somet

tuplets interferring with slurs

Do slurs and tuplet brackets know about each other? The following code produces a not very nice slur on the second tuplet. Additionally, it is very sensitive to the TupletNumber Y-offsett \version "2.10.33" \relative c'' { \time 2/4 \tupletUp %\override TupletNum

Re: automatic beaming in tuplets

always ended on every 8th note in 4/4. For tuplets in general, there is only one specific rule included among the default beaming patterns, namely that triplet 8ths should be ended on each beat in 4/4. Of course it would be possible to extend the list, but at least with the current mechanism, this

automatic beaming in tuplets

tomatic beaming is not working correctly in certain cases involving tuplets. i include a short snippet with the corresponding image. i'm using a recently compiled 2.11.41 on linux. in 4/4 time signature, eight notes are beamed every 4 notes (i. e. into whole notes, m.1 in the example), which

Re: Problem with tuplets ... please help

ror cropped up. I am very grateful. Such lists are a wonderful thing! I hope I will be able to help someone else out when I have got to grips with this program -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Problem-with-tuplets-...-please-help-tp15717020p15723150.html Sent from the Gnu

Re: Problem with tuplets ... please hep

Hi Simon, Hope you're enjoying using Lilypond. On Wed, 2008-02-27 at 08:22 -0800, eagle136 wrote: > Hi, > I am a noob to Lilypond and am very impressed until I tried using tuplets > and am getting an error each time. > > The following line within the definition of a melod

Re: Problem with tuplets ... please help

On 27.02.2008, at 18:44, Graham Percival wrote: On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 18:29:32 +0100 "James E. Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Another way of answering that is, lilypond uses "english.ly" by default, so unless you specify \include "deutsch.ly", you'll get errors like that (I forget to put th

Re: Problem with tuplets ... please help

Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: > Without the actual file to look at, it's hard to give a proper problem > analysis/solution (my crystal ball broke last week ;-) Are you maybe using > \include "english.ly" > in your file? If so, the syntax for sharps is gsharp, not gis (and gflat > instead of ges)

Re: Problem with tuplets ... please help

James E. Bailey wrote: > Another way of answering that is, lilypond uses "english.ly" by default, > so unless you specify \include "deutsch.ly", you'll get errors like that > (I forget to put that in my files all the time). Is that true? In mine (2.10.25, installed with Ubuntu) it's certainly not

Re: Problem with tuplets ... please help

On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 18:29:32 +0100 "James E. Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Another way of answering that is, lilypond uses "english.ly" by > default, so unless you specify \include "deutsch.ly", you'll get > errors like that (I forget to put that in my files all the time). False. Look

Re: Problem with tuplets ... please help

On 27.02.2008, at 18:21, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: Am Mittwoch, 27. Februar 2008 schrieb eagle136: Processing `wart.ly' Parsing... wart.ly:61:23: error: syntax error, unexpected STRING g4 \times 2/3 { gis g g} r4 | Without the actual file to look at, it's hard to

Re: Problem with tuplets ... please help

Am Mittwoch, 27. Februar 2008 schrieb eagle136: > Processing `wart.ly' > Parsing... > wart.ly:61:23: error: syntax error, unexpected STRING > g4 \times 2/3 { >gis g g} r4 | Without the actual file to look at, it's hard to give a proper problem analysis/solution (my

Re: Problem with tuplets ... please hep

Hi Simon, Hope you're enjoying using Lilypond. On Wed, 2008-02-27 at 08:22 -0800, eagle136 wrote: > Hi, > I am a noob to Lilypond and am very impressed until I tried using tuplets > and am getting an error each time. > > The following line within the definition of a melod

Problem with tuplets ... please help

> > > > > > > > Hi, I am a noob to Lilypond and am very impressed until I tried using tuplets and am getting an error each time. The following line within the definition of a melody line context works, i.e. Lilypond parses it and generates .PDF and .PS files as expecte

Problem with tuplets ... please hep

Hi, I am a noob to Lilypond and am very impressed until I tried using tuplets and am getting an error each time. The following line within the definition of a melody line context works, i.e. Lilypond parses it and generates .PDF and .PS files as expected: \times 2/3 g4 { g g g } r2 However, I

Re: getting tuplets using midi2ly

ly ...2.7.18 ... (2.7.38 2.10.33) **this will part of another post** _2.questions:_ - How could I get the tuplets? - Have I missed something? Thanks for answering! Charlie ___ lilypond-user mailing lis

Re: getting tuplets using midi2ly

r 8-th; *-midi-logrecommanding to use convert-ly ...2.7.18 ... (2.7.38 2.10.33) **this will part of another post** _2.questions:_ - How could I get the tuplets? - Have I missed something? Thanks for answering! Charlie ___ lilypond-

Re: getting tuplets using midi2ly

ill part of another post** _2.questions:_ - How could I get the tuplets? - Have I missed something? Thanks for answering! Charlie ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/

Re: getting tuplets using midi2ly

di-logrecommanding to use convert-ly ...2.7.18 ... (2.7.38 2.10.33) **this will part of another post** _2.questions:_ - How could I get the tuplets? - Have I missed something? Thanks for answering! Charlie ___ lilypond-user mail

getting tuplets using midi2ly

the correct notes pitches (quite all 4-th) but without any triplet nor 8-th; *-midi-logrecommanding to use convert-ly ...2.7.18 ... (2.7.38 2.10.33) **this will part of another post** _2.questions:_ - How could I get the tuplets? - Have I missed something? Thank

Re: tuplets without brackets

\override TupletBracket #'bracket-visibility = ##f HTH ole Am 11.02.2008 um 23:42 schrieb stefanozanobini: Hi, when I write non-typical tuplets (i.e. 2 notes with 8th-duration and 2 notes with 16th-duration) brackets compare automatically. In that case I don'

tuplets without brackets

Hi, when I write non-typical tuplets (i.e. 2 notes with 8th-duration and 2 notes with 16th-duration) brackets compare automatically. In that case I don't need any bracket and number. Now I've fixed TupletsNumber as transparent, but what can I make against Brackets? than

Re: Question: stemlets, tuplets, and beams

1) Is there a way to create "stemlets" (i.e. short stems unconnected to noteheads) when beams extend over rests? two ways - first is 'Carter-style', which is a pain to automate fully, because so many variables, but i do it like this: (\stemlet #'(x . y) passes x and y amounts to the Text

Questions: stemlets, tuplets, and beams

Casey, On Dec 26, 2007, at 9:07 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) Is there a way to create "stemlets" (i.e. short stems unconnected to noteheads) when beams extend over rests? Here you go: %BEGIN snippet notes = \new Voice \relative c'' { c8[ d r e] r[ f g a] } \score { \new

Re: Question: stemlets, tuplets, and beams

hope that helps ole Am 26.12.2007 um 02:10 schrieb Casey Hale: 2) When creating tuplets, is there a way to specify that brackets always appear, whether or not the beam is complete? \override TupletBracket #'bracket-visibility = ##t 3) How do I specify the subdivision of 16th

Question: stemlets, tuplets, and beams

over rests? 2) When creating tuplets, is there a way to specify that brackets always appear, whether or not the beam is complete? 3) How do I specify the subdivision of 16ths (or 32nds or 64ths) beneath a tuplet beam (without breaking things up into separate beats)? Thanks for your help an

Re: tuplets other than standard 8th into quarter note

and for saving typing you can use \set tupletSpannerDuration ... (as described in the manual Chapter 6.2.3 Tuplets) % \version "2.10.15" \new Staff { \time 2/4 \relative c'{ \set tupletSpannerDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 4) \times 4/6 { c16 d

Re: tuplets other than standard 8th into quarter note

\new Staff { \time 1/4 \relative c' { \times 2/3 { d8 e f } \break %in the time of 2 8th notes 3 8th notes \times 2/5 { d8 e f g a } \break %in the time of 2 8th notes 5 8th notes \times 2/3 { d16[ e f ]} \times 2/3 { d16 e f } \break %in the time of 2 16th no

Re: tuplets other than standard 8th into quarter note

It's fairly simple math. For example, a standard triplet with eight notes, you want 3 of the triplet eight notes to have the same duration as 2 normal eight notes, i.e. each note should be 2/3 its normal duration. For the example you mention, you want 3 triplet 16th notes to have the same durat

tuplets other than standard 8th into quarter note

Hello: I don't understand how the triplet durations work mathematically. The examples are all standard 3 8th notes into 1 quarter. These are all whole numbers. What happens when you need triplet 16th notes into half a beat in a 2/4 time signature? There are about 50 bars of them so I can't do thi

Re: odd beaming in tuplets

This is issue #11; unfortunately it will likely remain for a while. http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=11 Sorry, - Graham David Bobroff wrote: I'm having a similar issue with v2.11.32: %%% BEGIN LILYPOND %%% \version "2.11.32" \score { \relative c' { \times 2/3 {

Re: odd beaming in tuplets

On 1 Oct 2007, at 16:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the strange beaming inside the tuplet in the first 4/8 measure of this sniplet expected? Right now im overriding with manually setting stemBeamCount to correct values, but its very tedious. I have similar problems with some irregular me

Re: odd beaming in tuplets

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Sorry for doubles, but the image file wasnt included in the post sent from the web-interface. AV.] Hi there. Is the strange beaming inside the tuplet in the first 4/8 measure of this sniplet ex

Re: odd beaming in tuplets

IMO the beaming should be the same for 2/4 or 4/8 i'd submit it as a bug unless someone chimes in... d (fwiw in 2.11.34 the spacing seems better) On 1 Oct 2007, at 15:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Sorry for doubles, but the image file wasnt included in the post sent from the web-interface. A

odd beaming in tuplets

[Sorry for doubles, but the image file wasnt included in the post sent from the web-interface. AV.] Hi there. Is the strange beaming inside the tuplet in the first 4/8 measure of this sniplet expected? Right now im overriding with manually setting stemBeamCount to correct values, but its ver

odd beaming in tuplets

Hi there. Is the strange beaming inside the tuplet in the first 4/8 measure of this sniplet expected? Right now im overriding with manually setting stemBeamCount to correct values, but its very tedious. [2. image notation --- image/jpeg; lilypond-beaming-oddness.jpg]... \version "2.10.20"

Re: tuplets

by assonance with the mathematical term tuple. My gut reaction is that I dislike the term, even though I acknowledge that it may be useful. http://www.musictheory.halifax.ns.ca/19triplets.html has the heading: Triplets and other "tuplets", and quotes the Concise Oxford dict. of music, wh

Re: tuplets

On 9/26/07, Kieren MacMillan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello all, > > It's not nearly as slick as "tuplet"... but how about "rhythmic ratios"? > The phrase sums up almost precisely what it represents, and would be > (I imagine) VERY easily translated. > > Just my 2 cents Canadian (which is about

Re: tuplets

Hello all, It's not nearly as slick as "tuplet"... but how about "rhythmic ratios"? The phrase sums up almost precisely what it represents, and would be (I imagine) VERY easily translated. Just my 2 cents Canadian (which is about the same as 2 cents American nowadays!) Kieren. __

Re: tuplets

2007/9/26, Diosnel Herrnsdorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Doesn't anybody use the term "irregular values/figures"? That's the > general > term I learned waay back (actually, it was "figuras irregulares"). I'd not recommend that term because these note values can, in fact, be perfectly regular,

Re: tuplets

IL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 10:23 Subject: Re: tuplets 2007/9/26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hi Charlotte, In what context do we actually need to use this generic term? Surely we can avoid it? I'd be happy to try to re-draft the relevant p

Re: tuplets

michał poręba writes: > So what should I do? Ask google, or ask an expert. Make sure you are consistent, then changing it later is easier. Possibly you can discuss on the mailing list for your Polish team [EMAIL PROTECTED], see http://translationproject.org/team/index.html Jan. -- Jan Ni

Re: tuplets

Cześć Michał, fajnie, że ktoś chce tłumaczyć LP na język polski, bardzo się cieszę. michał poręba wrote: It seems to be a big problem for all of as. I am wanna-be polish translator and I have to admit that in my mother language people use tuplet, but only those who know Finale. None of encyclope

Re: tuplets (was: GDP for kids :)

It seems to be a big problem for all of as. I am wanna-be polish translator and I have to admit that in my mother language people use tuplet, but only those who know Finale. None of encyclopedias, none of dictionaries I have mention that word. So what should I do? What should we do? Shell we use th

Re: tuplets (was: GDP for kids :)

2007/9/24, Henning Hraban Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > As Mark Knoop wrote, (indeed "das") "Tupel" is normally a vector and > as a musical term seems to be as common as "tuplet". > For the German tuplets named Duole, Triole, Quartole, Quintole/Pento

Re: tuplets

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've heard/used tuplets since the mid 1980s when I first started learning music. However, I've always understood it to specifically mean 'two in the time of x', probably as a mispronounciation of 'duplets' by confusing it with 'two

Re: tuplets

lypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/Tuplets ? (I'd be interested in seeing what you can propose, since the French translation is currently relying on hideous neologisms ;) Regards, Valentin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu

Re: tuplets

I've heard/used tuplets since the mid 1980s when I first started learning music. However, I've always understood it to specifically mean 'two in the time of x', probably as a mispronounciation of 'duplets' by confusing it with 'two' (two-plets - I grew up i

Re: tuplets

Damian leGassick mac.com> writes: > > (in england) i've been calling them tuplets at least since the mid > 80's, certainly pre-finale. > Wikipedia calls them tuplets, as well. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuplet Carl

Re: tuplets

(in england) i've been calling them tuplets at least since the mid 80's, certainly pre-finale. d On 25 Sep 2007, at 03:45, Jay Hamilton wrote: I've 56 years old been in music both student or educator for 47 of them and live in the Northwestern part of the US and until th

Re: tuplets

I've 56 years old been in music both student or educator for 47 of them and live in the Northwestern part of the US and until this discussion had never heard the word tuplet. Jay Message: 2 Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 12:04:01 -0700 From: Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re:

Re: tuplets (was: GDP for kids :)

2007/9/24, Valentin Villenave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > In French, no generic term exist; when we translated the documentation > we had to create a rather ugly mathematical word: > since the terms we use are > triolet ==> meaning triplet > quartolet > quintolet > etc... > In Spanish there is a gene

Re: tuplets (was: GDP for kids :)

Am 2007-09-24 um 14:24 schrieb Valentin Villenave: In French, no generic term exist; when we translated the documentation we had to create a rather ugly mathematical word: since the terms we use are triolet ==> meaning triplet quartolet quintolet etc... We created the "n-olet" which is a neolog

Re: tuplets

Eyolf Østrem wrote: Does this mean that we should consider not using the word? Not that I have anything against Finale (hehe :-), but do we have to copy their strange nomenclature? The question is, I suppose: I've never touched Finale, but I've heard the word "tuplet" many times before. It's

Re: tuplets (was: GDP for kids :)

against Finale (hehe :-), but do we have to copy their strange nomenclature? The question is, I suppose: - is it a good term (perhaps it is; are there any alternatives for a cover-all term for -- eh, for tuplets...?) - is the term so well-established in note-typesetting circles that it wo

Re: tuplets (was: GDP for kids :)

2007/9/24, Henning Hraban Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > As Mark Knoop wrote, (indeed "das") "Tupel" is normally a vector and > as a musical term seems to be as common as "tuplet". > For the German tuplets named Duole, Triole, Quartole, Quintole/Pento

Re: tuplets (was: GDP for kids :)

Maybe DE has to make due with only one > form of the word? Or possibly you guys could borrow in "Tuplet"? Or > perhaps that simply looks absurd ... As Mark Knoop wrote, (indeed "das") "Tupel" is normally a vector and as a musical t

Re: tuplets (was: GDP for kids :)

Valentin Villenave wrote: > 2007/9/22, Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> The word "tuplet" is certainly used in Coda Music >> Technology's Finale PrintMusic2000 manual, copyrighted >> 1999, to mean "triplets, quintuplets, and so on". (I >> used this before I discovered LP, and still have a

Re: tuplets (was: GDP for kids :)

2007/9/22, Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The word "tuplet" is certainly used in Coda Music > Technology's Finale PrintMusic2000 manual, copyrighted > 1999, to mean "triplets, quintuplets, and so on". (I > used this before I discovered LP, and still have a > copy). Don't know if this was t

RE: tuplets (was: GDP for kids :)

> > On 9/19/07, fiëé visuëlle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Am 2007-09-17 um 17:00 schrieb Valentin Villenave: > > > > > Trevor: there can be *no* name for such > hideous rhythms... :) > > > We may use "rythmes irrationnels" (one "h", > two "n"s), or > > > "monnayages", but generally speaking t

Re: tuplets (was: GDP for kids :)

On 9/19/07, fiëé visuëlle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am 2007-09-17 um 17:00 schrieb Valentin Villenave: > > > Trevor: there can be *no* name for such hideous rhythms... :) > > We may use "rythmes irrationnels" (one "h", two "n"s), or > > "monnayages", but generally speaking the terms we use for s

Re: tuplets (was: GDP for kids :)

Am 2007-09-17 um 17:00 schrieb Valentin Villenave: Trevor: there can be *no* name for such hideous rhythms... :) We may use "rythmes irrationnels" (one "h", two "n"s), or "monnayages", but generally speaking the terms we use for such *things* are so rude I can't consider posting any of them here

Re: how to beam non-tuplets with tuplets?

Hi all, Thanks everyone for being such active participants in this community - as a new user of Lilypond I'm finding it a great experience, both as a tool in and of itself and as an interaction between programmers/users/documenters/etc. I'm just looking at this thread for the first time after sen

Re: how to beam non-tuplets with tuplets?

Mats Bengtsson wrote: The problem is, as Mats says, it's not specific to beaming; it applies equally to things like slurs and ties. If a snippet is to be submitted to LSR, it needs to be more generalized. Fine, but I'm sure we will see the same basic question coming back in other situation

Re: how to beam non-tuplets with tuplets?

Valentin Villenave wrote: 2007/9/11, Neil Puttock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Well, I'm no programmer, so that could explain why I've never given it a second thought. Still; you're used to write (inside parentheses), and not outside( parentheses) aren't you? :) The problem is, as Mat

Re: how to beam non-tuplets with tuplets?

2007/9/11, Neil Puttock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Well, I'm no programmer, so that could explain why I've never given it a > second thought. Still; you're used to write (inside parentheses), and not outside( parentheses) aren't you? :) > The problem is, as Mats says, it's not specific to beamin

Re: how to beam non-tuplets with tuplets?

On 9/11/07, Reinhold Kainhofer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > After you found out, it makes sense (because the bracket is not a bracket > in > the sense that it encloses something, but rather an attribute to the > note). > But if you are used to writing code, interleaving brackets and braces > se

Re: how to beam non-tuplets with tuplets?

Am Dienstag, 11. September 2007 schrieb Neil Puttock: > On 9/11/07, Valentin Villenave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 2007/9/11, Adam James Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Perhaps two examples - one manually beaming non-tuplets->tuplets and > > > one ma

Re: how to beam non-tuplets with tuplets?

Neil Puttock wrote: To add a dissenting voice, I don't think this is LSR-worthy, in my humble opinion. Surely it's clear from the postfix-style syntax for manual beaming that the right square bracket should directly follow the note which is to be at the end of the requested beaming, i.e.

Re: how to beam non-tuplets with tuplets?

On 9/11/07, Valentin Villenave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 2007/9/11, Adam James Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Perhaps two examples - one manually beaming non-tuplets->tuplets and > > one manually beaming tuplets->non-tuplets (maybe just the examples >

Re: how to beam non-tuplets with tuplets?

Valentin Villenave wrote: 2007/9/11, Adam James Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Perhaps two examples - one manually beaming non-tuplets->tuplets and one manually beaming tuplets->non-tuplets (maybe just the examples below) - could be added to the 2.11 manual under "tuplets?"

Re: how to beam non-tuplets with tuplets?

2007/9/11, Adam James Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Perhaps two examples - one manually beaming non-tuplets->tuplets and > one manually beaming tuplets->non-tuplets (maybe just the examples > below) - could be added to the 2.11 manual under "tuplets?" I'd be &

Re: how to beam non-tuplets with tuplets?

Perhaps two examples - one manually beaming non-tuplets->tuplets and one manually beaming tuplets->non-tuplets (maybe just the examples below) - could be added to the 2.11 manual under "tuplets?" I'd be happy to write up a little chunk of text if that would help. Best, A

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