Re: Support for Raspberry Pi

2012-11-05 Thread Michael Hope
On 4 November 2012 05:09, Loïc Minier wrote: > Hi Geert, > > On Fri, Nov 02, 2012, Geert Schuring wrote: >> Could you tell me if you have any plans to enable Ubuntu on the Raspberry Pi >> (ARMv6) ? > > Short answer: an Ubuntu ARMv6 port for the Raspberry Pi isn't a Linaro > target, but we'

Lenovo battery at registration desk

2012-11-02 Thread Michael Hope
I found a lonely looking Lenovo laptop battery in BV1. I've left it at the registration desk. -- Michael ___ linaro-dev mailing list linaro-dev@lists.linaro.org http://lists.linaro.org/mailman/listinfo/linaro-dev

Re: Kernel 3.6 build bug with Linaro 4.7 toolchains

2012-10-03 Thread Michael Hope
On 4 October 2012 13:01, Tim Bird wrote: > On 10/03/2012 01:52 PM, Michael Hope wrote: >> On 3 October 2012 12:59, Tim Bird wrote: >>> When I try to build the Linux kernel version 3.6 with the gcc-4.7 >>> nightly build Linaro toolchains, >>> >>> $ ar

Re: Kernel 3.6 build bug with Linaro 4.7 toolchains

2012-10-03 Thread Michael Hope
On 3 October 2012 12:59, Tim Bird wrote: > When I try to build the Linux kernel version 3.6 with the gcc-4.7 > nightly build Linaro toolchains, > > $ arm-eabi-gcc --version > arm-eabi-gcc (Linaro GCC 4.7-2012.09-1~dev) 4.7.2 20120910 (prerelease) > $ arm-eabi-as --version > GNU assembler (Linux/GN

Re: ARM gcc vs ARM rvct

2012-09-26 Thread Michael Hope
On 27 September 2012 08:09, Dechesne, Nicolas wrote: > Hi there, > > > > Is there any sensible comparison document for gcc vs rvct in terms of speed, > code size, feature set? Is there any reason / use case to recommend rvct > over gcc for non-Linux s/w? Hi Nicolas. I'd recommend talking with AR

Re: Change in floating point performance across kernels

2012-08-19 Thread Michael Hope
On 20 August 2012 11:36, Mans Rullgard wrote: > On 19 August 2012 23:55, Michael Hope wrote: >>> On 17 August 2012 00:37, Michael Hope wrote: >>>> Hi there. I'm seeing a huge improvement in the SPEC floating point >>>> benchmarks between a hacked Ubuntu

Re: Change in floating point performance across kernels

2012-08-19 Thread Michael Hope
> On 17 August 2012 00:37, Michael Hope wrote: >> Hi there. I'm seeing a huge improvement in the SPEC floating point >> benchmarks between a hacked Ubuntu Precise 3.2.14 kernel and Linus >> 3.5. Does anyone know why off the top of their head? > > Hacked how? H

Change in floating point performance across kernels

2012-08-16 Thread Michael Hope
Hi there. I'm seeing a huge improvement in the SPEC floating point benchmarks between a hacked Ubuntu Precise 3.2.14 kernel and Linus 3.5. Does anyone know why off the top of their head? I see the same on a PandaBoard and PandaBoard ES. In both cases the CPU is locked to 1 GHz and other power m

Raspbian's hard float benchmarks

2012-07-17 Thread Michael Hope
The Raspbian project is a rebuild of Debian for the Raspberry Pi. adama did some benchmarks that show the improvement in going from ARMv4T with soft float to ARMv6 with hard float: http://www.memetic.org/raspbian-benchmarking-armel-vs-armhf/ The page says that there's a 4-10 % improvement on int

Re: QEMU doesn't support imx53 platform

2012-07-01 Thread Michael Hope
On 30 June 2012 06:46, 陈磊 wrote: > QEMU doesn't support imx53 platform, linaro image file for imx53 could not > be loaded in QEMU. > How to solve this problem? Hi there. QEMU emulates a number of boards including the BeagleBoard, SMDKC210, and Versatile Express but not the i.MX53. If you'd like

What happened on KVM in Q1.12

2012-06-17 Thread Michael Hope
Thought I'd send out an email on what progress was made on KVM last quarter. The Linaro platform and toolchain groups did quite a bit of integration work to package and polish the different components to make it quicker to get going on KVM. You can now download pre-built versions of the boot wrap

Re: Kernel not booting with Linaro GCC?

2012-06-13 Thread Michael Hope
On 14 June 2012 04:22, Rob Herring wrote: > On 06/10/2012 05:31 PM, Michael Hope wrote: >> There's an interaction between Linaro GCC or FSF GCC 4.7 and Linux >> kernels before 3.2 which causes the kernel to halt straight after >> showing 'Uncompressing Linux'.

Kernel not booting with Linaro GCC?

2012-06-10 Thread Michael Hope
There's an interaction between Linaro GCC or FSF GCC 4.7 and Linux kernels before 3.2 which causes the kernel to halt straight after showing 'Uncompressing Linux'. The question comes up every couple of months so I've blogged about it: http://seabright.co.nz/2012/06/11/kernel-not-booting-with-lina

Re: Raspberry pi - Linaro builds

2012-06-10 Thread Michael Hope
On 10 June 2012 09:24, Anoop CH wrote: > Hi, > Thank you for your work on the dev boards.  Recently i had been working with > Android.  Your work saved a lot of time for me. > > I request you to also consider support the raspberry pi board.  Which is > quite useful for many people.  Enduses as wel

Re: Both native and cross compilation failed with Ubuntu Linaro Gcc 4.5.x and 4.6.x for an ARM/OMAP board

2012-06-04 Thread Michael Hope
On 31 May 2012 00:48, AKS wrote: > Hi > > I was cross-compiling a Linux kernel 2.6.38 for a Gumstix Overo > which is a tiny ARM (TI OMAP 35xx) based single board computer. > I was using Linaro cross compiler (arm-linux-gnueabi-gcc) did not > give an uImage that gets pass the Loading uImage. My con

Re: Linaro rootfs / kernel version combination

2012-05-14 Thread Michael Hope
On 14 May 2012 17:48, Suresh Kumar SHUKLA wrote: > Hi all, > > I need some help in choosing right version of rootfs for my environment. > > I have a development board with ST SoC with Cortex-A9 dual core and > VFPv3-D16. Kernel version available to me is 2.6.37. > I am using Debian 6 arm-hf port,

Re: Installing the armel libc on armhf

2012-05-10 Thread Michael Hope
On 11 May 2012 02:50, Christian Robottom Reis wrote: > On Mon, May 07, 2012 at 11:51:47AM -0700, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: >> W dniu 06.05.2012 16:06, Michael Hope pisze: >> >Hi there.  Hopefully an easy question but I'm stumped.  How do I >> >install the armel sof

Re: Installing the armel libc on armhf

2012-05-07 Thread Michael Hope
On 8 May 2012 06:51, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: > W dniu 06.05.2012 16:06, Michael Hope pisze: > >> Hi there.  Hopefully an easy question but I'm stumped.  How do I >> install the armel softfp libc6 on a new Precise armhf install? >> >> I set APT::Architectures

Installing the armel libc on armhf

2012-05-06 Thread Michael Hope
Hi there. Hopefully an easy question but I'm stumped. How do I install the armel softfp libc6 on a new Precise armhf install? I set APT::Architectures to { "armel" } and then tried a apt-get install libc6:armel but I get errors about the package not matching the host architecture. -- Michael _

Re: qemu & hardware gfx acceleration

2012-04-09 Thread Michael Hope
On 10 April 2012 07:13, John Stultz wrote: > So the Google Android team just posted this: > http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/hsDu/~3/OCt1AQzfyWI/faster-emulator-with-better-hardware.html > > Which shows their device emulator running w/ hardware acceleration.  Since I > know they started wit

Re: [Linaro-validation] Toolchain builds in LAVA

2012-03-28 Thread Michael Hope
On 29 March 2012 04:20, Paul Larson wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Andrew Stubbs > wrote: >> >> On 28/03/12 03:26, Michael Hope wrote: >>> >>> Hi there.  The GCC build time is approaching 24 hours and our five >>> Panda boards can&#x

Toolchain builds in LAVA

2012-03-27 Thread Michael Hope
Hi there. The GCC build time is approaching 24 hours and our five Panda boards can't keep up. Sounds like a good time to LAVAise the toolchain build process a bit more... Mike Hudson and I talked about doing a hybrid LAVA/cbuild as a first step where LAVA manages the boards and cbuild does the b

Re: Plan for changing the binary toolchain to 4.7 and hardfloat

2012-03-19 Thread Michael Hope
On 20 March 2012 01:42, Andrew Stubbs wrote: > I think the "correct" solution to this would be to have the binary toolchain > built in a multilib configuration that supports both softfp and hardfp, and > provide aliases for both triplets that configure the right setting, but that > requires more b

Re: Plan for changing the binary toolchain to 4.7 and hardfloat

2012-03-19 Thread Michael Hope
On 19 March 2012 21:48, Konstantinos Margaritis wrote: > On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 23:27:17 + > Mans Rullgard wrote: >> FWIW, Gentoo has been using arm-hardfloat-linux-gnueabi for hardfloat >> configurations ever since gcc started supporting it.  That's of course >> not a triplet, strictly speaking

Linaro GCC 4.6 entering maintenance; 4.5 end of life

2012-03-18 Thread Michael Hope
This is the first announcement on upcoming changes to the supported Linaro GCC versions. GCC 4.7 is expected out in the next two weeks. We plan to switch to 4.7 for the Linaro GCC 2012.04 release and, as part of that, will put Linaro GCC 4.6 into maintenance and retire Linaro GCC 4.5. While in m

Re: Plan for changing the binary toolchain to 4.7 and hardfloat

2012-03-18 Thread Michael Hope
On 17 March 2012 08:10, Loïc Minier wrote: > On Fri, Mar 16, 2012, Michael Hope wrote: >>  https://wiki.linaro.org/MichaelHope/Sandbox/BinariesMigration > >  Is there a separate plan for gcc-4.5 deprecation in source releases? Yip, I'll send an email on that today. >  T

Re: LAVA Downtime Planned

2012-03-15 Thread Michael Hope
On 16 March 2012 15:50, Paul Larson wrote: > This is just an early notification that the Linaro validation farm will be > physically moving to a new site next week.  Unfortunately, the network > cables won't stretch that far, so it will mean some downtime. :) > > Here's the tentative plan: > > Wed

Plan for changing the binary toolchain to 4.7 and hardfloat

2012-03-15 Thread Michael Hope
Hi there. Over the next three months both GCC 4.7 and Ubuntu 12.04 'Precise' are coming out. We'll switch over to these pretty quickly which will affect our internal testing and anyone using the binary toolchain. The changeover plan including dates, details of what's happening, and backwards com

Re: Single zImage and KVM

2012-03-06 Thread Michael Hope
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 3:50 AM, Rob Herring wrote: > On 03/04/2012 04:02 PM, Michael Hope wrote: >> I'd like to have one KVM kernel image which is suitable for the real >> hardware host and the virtio based guest.  The single zImage plus >> Device Tree work seem l

Re: Single zImage and KVM

2012-03-05 Thread Michael Hope
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:45 AM, Alexander Sack wrote: > On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Michael Hope > wrote: >> >> I'd like to have one KVM kernel image which is suitable for the real >> hardware host and the virtio based guest.  The single zImage plus >>

Single zImage and KVM

2012-03-04 Thread Michael Hope
I'd like to have one KVM kernel image which is suitable for the real hardware host and the virtio based guest. The single zImage plus Device Tree work seem like a great way to do this. We're currently using the vexpress-a15 on a Fast Model as the host and a vexpress-a15 as the guest. Device Tree

Benchmark summary for Linaro GCC

2012-02-28 Thread Michael Hope
The topic of benchmarking keeps coming up. We're working on making the next FSF release better, but it's a good idea to track how the current Linaro GCC stacks up against other releases. The summary is at: https://wiki.linaro.org/Internal/ToolChain/Now Included is how our current 4.6 release d

Toolchain Working Group @ Linaro Connect

2012-02-01 Thread Michael Hope
Here is a list of things we plan to talk about and do in the toolchain group next week: https://wiki.linaro.org/MichaelHope/Sandbox/Q1.12Plans Some of the 'next steps' topics will become more concrete this week. If you're interested in specific topics, let me know or just come on by. We'll be h

Re: Architectures to support when releasing binaries

2012-01-17 Thread Michael Hope
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 1:21 AM, Alexander Sack wrote: > On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 3:32 AM, Michael Hope wrote: >> Hi there.  I have a style question.  For the pre-built versions of >> gcc-linaro, should we release a i686 version that also runs on x86_64, >> or do separate i

Architectures to support when releasing binaries

2012-01-15 Thread Michael Hope
Hi there. I have a style question. For the pre-built versions of gcc-linaro, should we release a i686 version that also runs on x86_64, or do separate i686 and x86_64 builds? If we do just an i686 version then: * There's less to test * There's one 'linux' binary so less confusion on what to do

Binary toolchain preview

2012-01-04 Thread Michael Hope
Hi there. We're putting together pre-built versions of the Linaro toolchain that cross-compile for the Linaro LEB and run on generic Linux or Windows. I've put a preview release together and would love some feedback. The binaries are available here: http://people.linaro.org/~michaelh/incoming/bi

Presentation on benchmarking techniques

2011-12-12 Thread Michael Hope
Hi there. I did a presentation on benchmarking techniques recently that covered our method, measuring, the statistics, and some future directions like STM. A copy is available at: http://people.linaro.org/~michaelh/presentations/Benchmarking%20Techniques%20r6.pdf The notes version is a bit mor

Re: December release schedule

2011-11-22 Thread Michael Hope
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 5:58 AM, Fathi Boudra wrote: > Hi, > > Since most people will be on holidays, we have a modified schedule for > December > "Christmas" release. The current plan is to release one week earlier: > > * 2011-12-08 Toolchain WG 2011.12 release > * 2011-12-15 Components 2011.12

Re: ANN: New Wiki Theme

2011-11-15 Thread Michael Hope
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Michael Hudson-Doyle wrote: > On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 19:22:17 -0600, Andy Doan wrote: >> On 11/15/2011 06:56 PM, Michael Hudson-Doyle wrote: >> > On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 14:28:57 -0600, Andy Doan wrote: >> >> 2. The standard banner for links to other websites now shows

Re: The Value of Thumb-2

2011-10-20 Thread Michael Hope
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Mans Rullgard wrote: > On 20 October 2011 23:07, Michael Hope wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 7:48 AM, James Tunnicliffe >> wrote: >>> This isn't exactly overflowing with up to date numbers, but... >>

Re: The Value of Thumb-2

2011-10-20 Thread Michael Hope
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 7:48 AM, James Tunnicliffe wrote: > This isn't exactly overflowing with up to date numbers, but... > > http://elinux.org/images/8/8a/Experiment_with_Linux_and_ARM_Thumb-2_ISA.pdf > > Slides 14 and 15 say that across EEMBC Thumb-2 gives 98% of the > performance of ARM 32 bit

Re: Easy crossbuilding of package sets/images

2011-10-11 Thread Michael Hope
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:23 AM, Wookey wrote: > One output from the 11.09 release was a reasonably painless way of > cross-building whole images against an archive, which also forms the > basis for an auto-crossbuilder. > > There is a HOWTO (for building linaro-nano images) here: > https://wiki.l

Re: First 11.09 Linaro Android Candidate Builds are done for (Linux 3.0.3, GCC 4.6, libjpegturbo) Panda, Beagle, Beagle xM, iMX53, Origen, Snowball

2011-09-12 Thread Michael Hope
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 11:36 PM, Loïc Minier wrote: > On Mon, Sep 12, 2011, Zach Pfeffer wrote: >> I think stage is okay. Its short for staging which is used in the >> kernel as a place for things which aren't mainline. >> If I hear of any other issues with the name I'll think we can >> reevaluat

Re: Android tip built with gcc 4.6 tip

2011-09-11 Thread Michael Hope
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 7:15 AM, Bernhard Rosenkranzer wrote: > On 9 September 2011 08:35, Christian Robottom Reis wrote: >> Good job on proactively looking for bustage. I assume you guys worked >> out a plan with Michael on how to provide feedback on the issues we >> find -- let me know if that

Re: 11.07 oprofile on panda busted?

2011-09-04 Thread Michael Hope
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 11:52 PM, Avik Sil wrote: > On Wednesday 31 August 2011 08:26 PM, Dave Martin wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 04:48:57PM -0500, Tom Gall wrote: > The perf patch was dropped from linux-linaro-2.6.39 onwards as it > apparently caused Panda boot hang > (https://bugs.launchpad

Re: Choosing the timer to use in benchmarking

2011-09-01 Thread Michael Hope
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 10:56 AM, John Stultz wrote: > On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 07:43 +1200, Michael Hope wrote: >> I was quite impressed with how steady the process clock was under >> different CPU loads. It doesn't seem to round up or down to a >> scheduler tick either wh

Re: Choosing the timer to use in benchmarking

2011-08-30 Thread Michael Hope
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 12:38 AM, Turgis, Frederic wrote: > Hi, > > What was the timer used previously for benchmarks ? It was a bit random across the different suites. CoreMark uses clock_gettime(CLOCK_REALTIME, ...) which is a wall clock with NTP adjustments. EEMBC uses clock() which is a low

Choosing the timer to use in benchmarking

2011-08-29 Thread Michael Hope
Being able to accurately and consistently measure the elapsed CPU time is important for toolchain benchmarking. I ran a few experiments today and wrote up the results at: https://wiki.linaro.org/WorkingGroups/ToolChain/Benchmarks/TimerAccuracy The original is available at: http://bazaar.launchp

Re: GDB multi-threaded debugging?

2011-08-23 Thread Michael Hope
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 2:46 AM, Christian Robottom Reis wrote: > I've decided to take a look at this moderately quiet l.k.embedded list > and noticed this question: > >    Is it possible to debug multi-threaded applications using gdb on ARM >    these days? >    http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linu

Re: Generic Linux cross toolchain for tests

2011-08-22 Thread Michael Hope
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 1:21 AM, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: > Hi > > Some time ago we agreed that not everyone here uses Ubuntu distribution > and decided to provide so called 'generic linux' cross toolchain. > Recently I managed to get it done and now need brave testers to tell is > it working or

Re: Android gcc 4.6 1107 optimization benchmark

2011-08-22 Thread Michael Hope
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Chao Yang wrote: > HI Michael, > The build log can be found at > http://people.linaro.org/~chaoyang/shared_sources/build_2011-08-19_20-33.log > The benchmark wiki > page https://wiki.linaro.org/ChaoYang/Sandbox/gccoptimization is updated on > 1. Adding benchmark f

Re: Android gcc 4.6 1107 optimization benchmark

2011-08-21 Thread Michael Hope
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 2:50 AM, Chao Yang wrote: > HI Bero, > What I did was changing both Os and O2 to O3 in TARGET_linux-arm.mk. I did > not change those O2/Os specified in each module internally. As there may be > a reason for the module itself to specify the optimisation level. I think it > i

Re: Input for an "optimized" slide

2011-08-21 Thread Michael Hope
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 7:13 AM, Zach Pfeffer wrote: > Thanks Bero. Sending this extremely useful information out to a wider > audience. > > Alex, > > I think you're probably be very interested in this for your Mozilla work. > >>>   -O3 >>>      * What is is, does, available on >> >> -O3 enables

Re: Android gcc 4.6 1107 optimization benchmark

2011-08-18 Thread Michael Hope
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Chao Yang wrote: > HI Zach, > The BP > (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/linaro-android/+spec/linaro-android-use-gcc4.6-with-o3) > and Bug #822113 aim at improving android performance. I think we also need > to balance the size and the performance improvement. I us

Re: 3D Demo at ARM

2011-08-18 Thread Michael Hope
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 2:21 AM, Andy Doan wrote: > On 08/17/2011 04:59 PM, Michael Hope wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 11:12 PM, Dave Martin wrote: >>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 7:14 PM, Zach Pfeffer >>> wrote: >>>> Nicolas, >>>> >>

Re: 3D Demo at ARM

2011-08-17 Thread Michael Hope
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 11:12 PM, Dave Martin wrote: > On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 7:14 PM, Zach Pfeffer wrote: >> Nicolas, >> >> Thanks for the notes. As you say there are many, many things that can >> affect this demo. What notes like this really underscore is the >> importance of staying up-to-dat

Re: [ACTIVITY] Android Platform Team 2011-08-07 to 2011-08-14

2011-08-17 Thread Michael Hope
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Tony Mansson wrote: > -O3 for gcc 4.6 works. Cool. What does 'works' mean and where is it written up? Is this with -mfpu=neon as well? -- Michael ___ linaro-dev mailing list linaro-dev@lists.linaro.org http://lists.l

Re: Toolchain builders utilisation

2011-08-17 Thread Michael Hope
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Amit Kucheria wrote: > On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 7:02 AM, Michael Hope wrote: >> Your distraction for the day... >> >> Toolchain has four PandaBoards that are used for building GCC, GDB, >> and other interesting programs.  Here

Toolchain builders utilisation

2011-08-16 Thread Michael Hope
Your distraction for the day... Toolchain has four PandaBoards that are used for building GCC, GDB, and other interesting programs. Here's a graph of how busy they are: http://ex.seabright.co.nz/misc/utilisation/ursas.png The green line is how many boards are currently running jobs. The blue l

Hacking Android from a Toolchain perspective

2011-08-10 Thread Michael Hope
Hi there. One of our goals in toolchain is to give good support to the Android group. I've written a page from the toolchain perspective on what is Android, how do you build it, and how you do common toolchainy tasks like reproduce a compiler fault: https://wiki.linaro.org/MichaelHope/Sandbox/An

Re: Why are our Android toolchains 32bit?

2011-08-10 Thread Michael Hope
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 2:29 AM, Bernhard Rosenkranzer wrote: > Hi, > while working on some improvements, I noticed that our Android > toolchain binaries are built as 32-bit x86. > Is there any reason for this (other than "we inherited it from AOSP")? > > While it doesn't matter much, it doesn't m

Re: Break in gcc-linaro tarball naming conventions, was: Re: Bug 809768 integration into gcc 4.6 for Linaro Android 1107 release

2011-07-22 Thread Michael Hope
r.bz2 >> instead. >> >> > >> > Thanks and regards >> > On 20 Jul 2011 21:12, "Paul Sokolovsky" >> > wrote: >> > > Hello Ulrich, >> > > >> > > On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 21:07:50 +0200 >> > > Ul

Linaro GCC 4.5 entered maintenance on June 28, 2011

2011-06-27 Thread Michael Hope
GCC 4.7 is released. Monthly releases will be made alongside the new development release. -- Michael Hope Toolchain Technical Lead ___ linaro-dev mailing list linaro-dev@lists.linaro.org http://lists.linaro.org/mailman/listinfo/linaro-dev

Linaro GCC 4.4 end-of-life reached on June 28, 2011

2011-06-27 Thread Michael Hope
, branches, and history will remain available. Since entering development in July 2010, we have made eight releases containing many new features 22 bug fixes. Linaro GCC 4.4 was our first release and set the stage for the current, ongoing work. -- Michael Hope Toolchain Technical Lead

RFC: Linaro GCC stable branch

2011-06-26 Thread Michael Hope
I'm considering starting an extra branch of Linaro GCC for use in the final stages of development and would like your input. Our goal is improve the performance of real, shipping products and to help the their time to market. We make improvements and fixes to FSF GCC and then backport them to Lin

Re: Compiling kernel for panda linaro natty 11.05

2011-06-21 Thread Michael Hope
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Amit Mahajan wrote: > On Tue, 2011-06-21 at 12:14 +0530, Avik Sil wrote: >> On Tuesday 21 June 2011 12:06 PM, Amit Mahajan wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > I have booted panda board using 11.05 natty release of ubuntu. It worked >> > great. >> > >> > Now, I am trying to c

Re: Error in compile 11.05 linux kernel using 4.5.1 linaro toolchain

2011-06-21 Thread Michael Hope
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Amit Mahajan wrote: > Hi, > > I am compiling 11.05 release linux kernel using linaro gcc-4.5.1. > > Getting following errors: > >  make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabi- -j 8 >  CHK     include/linux/version.h >  CHK     include/generated/utsrelease.h > mak

Re: Please help us setup patches.linaro.org

2011-06-16 Thread Michael Hope
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 1:26 AM, Guilherme Salgado wrote: > Hi folks, > > http://patches.linaro.org/ went live yesterday and we need your help to > set it up and get accurate metrics. It should take only a few minutes! > > The first thing we need is the HTTP URL for the upstream master branch > of

Re: Bug escalation procedure

2011-06-16 Thread Michael Hope
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 11:06 PM, Fathi Boudra wrote: > On 14 June 2011 21:53, Michael Hope wrote: >> How does this relate to working group outputs? >> >> Here's my process BTW: >>  https://wiki.linaro.org/WorkingGroups/ToolChain/BugProcess >> >> It&#x

Re: Draft daily (hmm) cloud builds of Android toolchain from bzr

2011-06-14 Thread Michael Hope
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 12:16 AM, Paul Sokolovsky wrote: > Hello Michael, > > On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 08:41:21 +1200 > Michael Hope wrote: > > [] >> > Note that it now expects bzr branch with explicit version, e.g. >> > lp:gcc-linaro/4.5 or lp:gcc-linaro/4.6

Re: Bug escalation procedure

2011-06-14 Thread Michael Hope
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 3:23 AM, Fathi Boudra wrote: > Hi, > > This is an update to the bug management process. The wiki page is: > https://wiki.linaro.org/Cycles/BugManagement > > Cheers, > > Fathi > -- > > Bug escalation procedure > > > It's important that bugs which aff

Re: Draft daily (hmm) cloud builds of Android toolchain from bzr

2011-06-13 Thread Michael Hope
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 12:41 AM, Paul Sokolovsky wrote: > Hello, > > Alexander, I've set up builds of Android toolchain from bzr: > https://android-build.linaro.org/builds/~pfalcon/linaro-toolchain-4.5-bzr/ > https://android-build.linaro.org/builds/~pfalcon/linaro-toolchain-4.6-bzr/ > > Jim, I ha

Re: Likely gcc-linaro-4.5-2011.05 misoptimization in libgui (Android)

2011-06-12 Thread Michael Hope
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Zach Pfeffer wrote: > What's the root problem? Is there anyone else who can sort it out? Ah, there's the rub :) It could be in the Android specific prelinker, GCC, or in the code itself. The Android toolchain time I have set aside is for helping the Android grou

Re: Likely gcc-linaro-4.5-2011.05 misoptimization in libgui (Android)

2011-06-12 Thread Michael Hope
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Zach Pfeffer wrote: > Ken, > > Would you get a patch together for Google? This looks like a good > small fix for when they upgrade to 4.5. Before pushing would you make > sure that the fix doesn't break the current Android build. This should > generate some good di

Re: 2 cross-development toochain quesions

2011-06-06 Thread Michael Hope
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 3:02 AM, Bernard Ogden wrote: > I was asked to take a look at the blueprints relating to cross-toolchain > development (e.g. > https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/linaro-platforms-o-linaro-cross-toolchain-stories) >  in advance of Monday's 'Android and Developer

Re: Likely gcc-linaro-4.5-2011.05 misoptimization in libgui (Android)

2011-05-29 Thread Michael Hope
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Zach Pfeffer wrote: > Jim, > > Would you share your toolchain improvements with Michael and also file > the bug you ran into? Michael, do you think it makes sense to create a > new bp like: > > linaro-android-gcc-linaro-4.5-2011.05 We have the blueprint: https:/

Re: Likely gcc-linaro-4.5-2011.05 misoptimization in libgui (Android)

2011-05-29 Thread Michael Hope
On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 11:20 PM, Alexander Sack wrote: > Hi Jim, > > On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Jim Huang wrote: >> Hello list, >> >> If you build Android using gcc-linaro-4.5-2011.05 [1], you will >> encounter a problem that bootanimation shows endless.  It results from >> the mis-optimiz

Re: proposal for reorganization of releases.linaro.org hierarchy

2011-05-26 Thread Michael Hope
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 8:54 PM, Fathi Boudra wrote: > Hi, > > Here's the following rationale: > 1. as a user, I would like to easily find the released Linaro components: > * Linaro Evaluation Build (Android and Ubuntu LEB) > * Tools (linaro-image-tools) > * Working Groups (kernel, u-boot, gcc, gd

Re: The need for more verbose work item updates

2011-05-24 Thread Michael Hope
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 2:21 AM, Alexandros Frantzis wrote: > Hi all, > > in some of the blueprints I am following, I have noticed that many work > items updates (e.g. to DONE/POSTPONED/BLOCKED) are not accompanied by > any additional information.  Of course, not all work items need > more informa

Re: Minutes from platform leads call 2011-05-24

2011-05-24 Thread Michael Hope
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Fathi Boudra wrote: > Hi, > > Available at https://wiki.linaro.org/Platform/2011-05-24 >  * AGREED: share a common format for the presentation to get a > consistent layout across the platform teams. listing TRs, sorted by > priority. >  * ACTION: whoever finishes f

Re: Usefulness of GCC's 64bit __sync_* ops on ARM

2011-05-23 Thread Michael Hope
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Michael Casadevall wrote: > On 05/19/2011 10:56 AM, David Gilbert wrote: >> On 19 May 2011 16:49, Ken Werner wrote: >>> On 05/19/2011 12:40 PM, David Rusling wrote: Is this going to end up in a blueprint?   This is the last loose end of SMP / atomi

Re: Gerrit userstory for multi-branch development

2011-05-19 Thread Michael Hope
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Paul Sokolovsky wrote: > Hello Linus, [snip] > Well, so bottom line of this, as far as I see it, is: Gerrit is de facto > tool for Android, and for Linaro Android we'd like to be sure that it > supports more flexible/advanced approach than which is seen typically >

Re: Would you like remotely accessible boards?

2011-05-04 Thread Michael Hope
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Guilherme Salgado wrote: > On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 08:26 +1200, Michael Hope wrote: >> On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 8:15 AM, Guilherme Salgado >> wrote: >> > Hi Michael, >> > >> > On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 03:12 +1200, Michael Hope w

Re: Would you like remotely accessible boards?

2011-05-04 Thread Michael Hope
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 8:15 AM, Guilherme Salgado wrote: > Hi Michael, > > On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 03:12 +1200, Michael Hope wrote: >> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 7:50 AM, Guilherme Salgado >> wrote: >> > If you do, I need to know more about how you'd like to use

Re: Would you like remotely accessible boards?

2011-05-04 Thread Michael Hope
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 7:50 AM, Guilherme Salgado wrote: > If you do, I need to know more about how you'd like to use them, to make > sure we provide something that is suitable to everyone. > > At this point I'm interested in drafting some user stories so if you > have any, please do add them to t

Re: zlib NEON improvements

2011-05-01 Thread Michael Hope
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Jan Seiffert wrote: > 2011/5/2 Michael Hope : > Hi Michael, Linaro Devs > >>  I see similar numbers. > > Great to hear ;) > Means i'm not totally on the wrong track Note that I've sent the results to zlib-dev. The copy to linar

zlib NEON improvements

2011-05-01 Thread Michael Hope
r the work in progress. -- Michael -- Forwarded message -- From: Michael Hope Date: Mon, May 2, 2011 at 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [Zlib-devel] [3/8][RFC V3 Patch] Add special ARM Adler32 version To: zlib-de...@madler.net On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Jan Seiffert wrote: > 2011/

Re: Help on general file sharing

2011-04-29 Thread Michael Hope
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Shawn Guo wrote: > I have one 35MB tarball to share with Linaro folks.  It's too big to > distribute through email.  Is there any infrastructural solution for > such general file sharing purpose?  (The launchpad PPA is for package > than general file sharing, and I

Toolchain performance 2011-04-26 minutes

2011-04-27 Thread Michael Hope
Hi there. Minutes from this weeks toolchain performance call are at: https://wiki.linaro.org/WorkingGroups/ToolChain/Meetings/2011-04-26 These meetings discuss current and future work on improving the performance of GCC. Future minutes will be added to the toolchain meetings page at: https://wi

Re: [RFF] Patch tracking/metrics

2011-04-25 Thread Michael Hope
On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Zach Pfeffer wrote: > We're planning on bringing up Gerrit at UDS for tracking Android > upstreaming. Perhaps it could be used for tracking GCC patches? Probably not. It seems to be tied to git and requires the Android workflow. Here's our workflow: Patches tha

Re: Announcement: Linaro ARM Optimized Toolchain for Android platform

2011-04-20 Thread Michael Hope
Hi Jim. Good effort. The Android patch set will be included in gcc-linaro-4.5-2011.04 which is due out today. We need to discuss toolchain build scripts at the summit. There's a want for builds of pretty much every combination of {Android,Linux,bare metal?} target, crossed with {Native,Cross} b

Working around a Tegra 2 errata for Natty

2011-04-18 Thread Michael Hope
Hi there. There's a problem with the thread local storage register in the Tegra 2 which is exposed by Ubuntu switching to GCC 4.5. The fault is quite serious and causes many applications to segfault. There's more details in LP: #739374. The problem is Tegra 2 specific and is caused by bit 20 of

Likely empty space in a processes's virtual address space

2011-04-13 Thread Michael Hope
Hi there. The address space randomisation feature in 2.6.35 and above kernels breaks GCC's precompiled headers support. GCC works by compiling the header once, dumping the internal format out to disk, and then mmap()ing it back in at a fixed address. The solution for other architectures is for G

Re: [RFF] Patch tracking/metrics

2011-04-12 Thread Michael Hope
On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 2:14 AM, James Westby wrote: > Hi, > > This service is going to be used by management to get an idea of the > number of patches going to each project over time, the number of patches > submitted upstream by each team over time, the % of patches accepted > upstream, the avera

Re: Libraries with NEON backends

2011-04-10 Thread Michael Hope
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 5:47 AM, Jim Huang wrote: > On 31 March 2011 08:23, Michael Hope wrote: >> Thanks all for your replies.  I mixed these in with a bit of Googling >> and recorded them here: >>  https://wiki.linaro.org/MichaelHope/Sandbox/LibrariesWithNeon > > h

Re: Libraries with NEON backends

2011-03-30 Thread Michael Hope
Thanks all for your replies. I mixed these in with a bit of Googling and recorded them here: https://wiki.linaro.org/MichaelHope/Sandbox/LibrariesWithNeon -- Michael On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Jim Huang wrote: > On 28 March 2011 05:09, Michael Hope wrote: >> Hi there.  I'

Re: Starting a cookbook

2011-03-27 Thread Michael Hope
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Loïc Minier wrote: > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011, Michael Hope wrote: >> Hi there.  I'd like to start an official Linaro cookbook that has >> recipes on how to build and use the various Linaro outputs.  This >> cookbook would answer questio

Starting a cookbook

2011-03-27 Thread Michael Hope
Hi there. I'd like to start an official Linaro cookbook that has recipes on how to build and use the various Linaro outputs. This cookbook would answer questions such as 'how do I build Linaro GCC from source?' and could be expanded into others. I'm thinking of having a concise Makefile for each

Libraries with NEON backends

2011-03-27 Thread Michael Hope
Hi there. I'm looking for areas where the toolchain could generate faster code, and a good way of doing that is seeing how compiled code does against the best hand-written code. I know of skia, ffmpeg, pixman, Orc, and efl - what others are out there? Thanks for any input, -- Michael _

Re: Better reviews for the same cost in gcc-linaro

2011-03-22 Thread Michael Hope
t -j2 and 9 hours on the testsuite at -j1. 12 divided by 5.25 hours makes the Panda 2.3 x faster than the OMAP3. -- Michael On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Robert Nelson wrote: > On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Michael Hope wrote: >> We currently use a feature branch / merge request

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