Re: [Redhat-s390-list] Redhat demo

2002-01-12 Thread Adam Thornton
On Sat, Jan 12, 2002 at 02:21:23PM +0100, Florian La Roche wrote: > I have created the first version of SuSE Linux 4.2 and have been working > on the core part for many years. My personal understanding is that I > have been able to deliver a stable core system by maintaining a real > Open Source L

AW: Linux/390 application development

2002-01-12 Thread Holger Baxmann (priv.)
> > development tools and, if I'm not mistaken, a > > really really great native XML database? (Now > > where did that come from? ;-) ) see: > > "native XML database ???" > > XML is a data exchange format. > And i.e Tamino for s390 is a native (no marshalling, not hierarchical to relational mappi

Re: Linux/390 application development

2002-01-12 Thread David Andrews
On Fri, 2002-01-11 at 22:05, Alan Cox wrote: > > Graphical designgimp (but not I suspect on the S/390!) Works fine here! -- David Andrews A. Duda and Sons, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Redhat-s390-list] Redhat demo

2002-01-12 Thread Rob van der Heij
Needless to say I am very pleased with the way RedHat allows for downloading of the latest and best. That helps the techies to see what it is and whether it does the job. There have been a few cases already where I have decided not to look at an issue with SuSE just because I don't know if the pro

Re: Formatting DASD under 2.4.7....

2002-01-12 Thread Post, Mark K
If you run dasdfmt with the ldl option, you don't need to (should _not_) run fdasd. That is only required with the cdl option. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Robert J Brenneman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 11:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Form

Re: OT: Linux mad CIOs (was Linux/390 application development)

2002-01-12 Thread John Summerfield
> > Yea, one of the Redbooks I used as a rosata stone. I know VM. I don't know > Linux. I bought a PC to install Linux on, I used the Redbook during the inst > all > process to comprehend what I was doing. > > Right now, I'm in the www.linux.org/lessons and taking the Linux online cours > e. M

Re: OT: Linux mad CIOs (was Linux/390 application development)

2002-01-12 Thread Phil Payne
> Where I'm contracting at the moment, the CIO has stated that anyone who does > anything with Linux -- on any platform, but *especially* the mainframe -- > will be sacked. So unfortunately I cannot be too sympathetic with your > situation! http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_175500

Re: [Redhat-s390-list] Redhat demo

2002-01-12 Thread Jon R. Doyle
OK, right, I think there was a long thread on this subject in terms of SuSE and the "cost" of the Enterprise Server. From my memory of this thread the reason that SuSE S/390 SLES was more $'s is because it "came" with a support contract. Unless I am having a synaptic fault seems that both these co

Re: Linux/390 application development

2002-01-12 Thread David Goodenough
You should probably look at Eclipse, which runs very nicely on Linux. It is fully open source and available from www.eclipse.org. It is the basis for all the IBM WebSphere Studio series of development tools. Add to this CDT, the C/C++ plugin for Eclipse (which is written in and primarily a

Re: Linux/390 application development

2002-01-12 Thread Alan Cox
> development tools and, if I'm not mistaken, a > really really great native XML database? (Now > where did that come from? ;-) ) see: "native XML database ???" XML is a data exchange format. Alan

Re: OT: Linux mad CIOs (was Linux/390 application development)

2002-01-12 Thread Tom Duerbusch
Vic Cross wrote: > Tom Duerbusch wrote: > > > The CIO is all ga ga over Linux. And the mainframe is the first box > > that Linux will be installed on. He thinks Linux is the best thing > > since sliced bread and I have trouble reigning him in to reality. > > You poor, poor, poor guy... Life mu

Re: RH 7.2 on IS ?

2002-01-12 Thread Kris Van Hees
On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 05:12:49PM -0500, Adam Thornton wrote: > Anyone tried to install RH 7.2 on an IS? > > I boot from the reader fine, but then everything just seems to hang when > I run loader after telnetting in. > > I don't have any /dev/dasdX devices, which seems strange, although the > in

Re: RH 7.2 on IS ?

2002-01-12 Thread Post, Mark K
Adam, I agree with Rob on the possibility of an MTU size problem for your telnet issue. As far as the DASD stuff goes, the Red Hat installer program dynamically creates the entries in /dev after it loads the DASD driver. I'm not exactly sure why they chose this route, but they did, although it

Re: [Redhat-s390-list] Redhat demo

2002-01-12 Thread Post, Mark K
Jon, Florian, all, Just to provide another perspective on this (and to assure all the folks at Red Hat that they didn't totally botch what they were saying) I took this statement to mean what Florian and Bernhard later explained more clearly: that if you bought Red Hat Linux/390 that you had to p

Re: OT: Linux mad CIOs (was Linux/390 application development)

2002-01-12 Thread Robert Angell
Probably is a fairly heavy M$ stock holder! This kind of CIO makes me VERY nervous ... as most of these hard/fast rules normally topple a company pretty quickly. Vic, maybe you should be looking for a new pocket of "cheese". -Bob- Bob Angell Technical Solution Manager - IBM Global Services 123

Re: [Redhat-s390-list] Redhat demo

2002-01-12 Thread Florian La Roche
On Sat, Jan 12, 2002 at 02:32:35AM -0800, Jon R. Doyle wrote: > OK, but if I bought SuSE and (SLES comes with support) I would not expect > anything from Redhat. You, or Florian rather are just saying that RH has > support, that right? If this is the case it would help to say that you > offer it l

Re: [Redhat-s390-list] Redhat demo

2002-01-12 Thread Jon R. Doyle
OK, but if I bought SuSE and (SLES comes with support) I would not expect anything from Redhat. You, or Florian rather are just saying that RH has support, that right? If this is the case it would help to say that you offer it like SuSE and Turbo, nothing new, it seemed like the message was saying

Re: [Redhat-s390-list] Redhat demo

2002-01-12 Thread Bernhard Rosenkraenzer
On Sat, 12 Jan 2002, Jon R. Doyle wrote: > ---SNIP--- > > If you buy the product from Red Hat, this is only available together with > > a support contract where Red Hat helps with the installation as well as > > later on supporting it if you discover defects. > > --SNIP-- > > > Does this mean if

Re: [Redhat-s390-list] Redhat demo

2002-01-12 Thread Jon R. Doyle
Hi Florian; since you have been both at SuSE and now Redhat maybe you can clarify what you are saying here for me: ---SNIP--- If you buy the product from Red Hat, this is only available together with > a support contract where Red Hat helps with the installation as well as > later on supportin

Re: [Redhat-s390-list] Redhat demo

2002-01-12 Thread Florian La Roche
On Sat, Jan 12, 2002 at 02:08:09AM -0500, Post, Mark K wrote: > Dave, > > If they've posted the GA code on their FTP server, it should be available > for download by anyone. The fact that they don't have .iso images isn't > particularly relevant or important. I have not previously heard anything

OT: Linux mad CIOs (was Linux/390 application development)

2002-01-12 Thread Vic Cross
Tom Duerbusch wrote: > The CIO is all ga ga over Linux. And the mainframe is the first box > that Linux will be installed on. He thinks Linux is the best thing > since sliced bread and I have trouble reigning him in to reality. You poor, poor, poor guy... Life must be hard! ;-) Where I'm co