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2002-10-31 Thread Dennis G. Wicks
Greetings; (Posted to VMESA-L and VSE-L and LINUX-390) - - Now in its fifth year! - - Now includes VSE and linux/390! I have set up a public service web page at http://www.eskimo.com/~wix/vm/ for posting positions available and wanted for VM, VSE and linux/390. Please visit the web

Re: shared library problems

2002-10-31 Thread Sergey Korzhevsky
When I tryed to install WAS 4.x on my SuSE 390x 2.4.17 kernel i had the same problem (At least, i think so). I looked at wrapper for JAVA and found that: #- # The line "export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.2.5" disables the use of float

Re: Probably the first published shell code example for Linux/390

2002-10-31 Thread Stefan Gybas
Alan Altmark wrote: It's yet another reason to get a Linux support contract. ... or a distribution that offers free security updates for everybody! (SCNR) Regards, Stefan Gybas

Re: Plagued by YAST 3270 problems

2002-10-31 Thread Scott Chapman
Using TeraTerm SSH, "export TERM=xterm" seemed to make the PF keys work, although I'm not sure that I care for the extra colors. PuTTY seemed to set TERM=xterm when it started, but I can't figure out how to make TeraTerm do the same. Scott Chapman Sanford H

Re: How do I reconfigure my ETH0 LCS device to a new device address i n Command Line Mode?

2002-10-31 Thread Carlos Ordonez
You will have to change the rc.config, hosts and route.conf. You have a set of commands that helps you do changes to this files and they are: sed, tail, head . You can use the sed command to change and the tail and head to add or delete lines form your files. ex.: cat rc.config | sed -e 's/192.168.

Re: Probably the first published shell code example for Linux/390

2002-10-31 Thread Dennis Wicks
This reminds me of that famous Pogo-ism: "We have met the enemy and they are us." Ross Patterson cc: Sent by: LinuxSubject: Re: Probably the first published shell code example for Linux/390

Re: Redhat and IBM Roadshow

2002-10-31 Thread ken
So when might this "Road Show" in the Winnie be coming to your office ??? Ken At 02:26 PM 10/30/2002 -0800, you wrote: Redhat, sponsered by IBM, is putting on a roadshow. They will be going cross country in a Winnebago, giving presentations and demos on Redhat and the xSeries machines. They

Re: Compiling stuff, formerly Mainframe/Linux journal - your advice, please

2002-10-31 Thread Hall, Ken (ECSS)
So far I've had to rebuild Openldap2 (to add options), mingetty (to add autologin patch), autofs (to add support for maps in LDAP), pam_ldap (to add a patch that fixes password changing), and Samba (to get a version more recent than 2.2.0a, which has serious bugs). I've repackaged all of these a

Multiple Linux LPAR's and a collection of ethernet devices in an R26....

2002-10-31 Thread James Melin
We don't as yet, and may not for a long time, have VM. That said, I'm going to be running 4 LPAR instances of Linux/390 - up from the ancient SuSE 7.0 I have now. The machine itself has 2 ENTR adapters set in ethernet mode, 2 10/100 fast ethernet adapters and 2 Gigabit ethernet devices. I do not

Re: Plagued by YAST 3270 problems

2002-10-31 Thread Post, Mark K
Scott, Setup -> TCP/IP -> Term type. You will have to have the "telnet" checkbox checked to enter anything into the field. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Scott Chapman [mailto:sachapman@;aep.com] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 6:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Plagued by

Re: Multiple Linux LPAR's and a collection of ethernet devices in an R26....

2002-10-31 Thread Rich Smrcina
Port sharing is possible with the OSA ENTR. I have to believe that you can also do it with the FENET adapter. This is how I configured the OSA originally. On Thursday 31 October 2002 08:17 am, you wrote: > We don't as yet, and may not for a long time, have VM. That said, I'm going > to be runnin

Re: Mainframe/Linux journal - your advice, please

2002-10-31 Thread Chris Bunyan
Hi David Thanks for your reply. I think we probably would go for a PDF edition, as well as or instead of a print edition. There are two problems, though, with electronic publishing. People don't expect to pay very much, which is a real problem in a niche market. We'd expect to pay contributors ab

Re: Mainframe/Linux journal - your advice, please

2002-10-31 Thread Scott Chapman
FYI, Cheryl Watson does electronic publication and evidently it's at least successful enough for her to continue it. And it's not a terribly cheap subscription either. Randy Cassingham (www.thisistrue.com) has a premium edition that evidently attracts enough subscribers to make it worthwhile. Tha

Re: Plagued by YAST 3270 problems

2002-10-31 Thread Scott Chapman
I saw that, but when I managed to change it it wouldn't connect anymore--I'm guessing because I only allow SSH into the server. Even if I clicked off "telnet" and left the xterm in the field grayed out, it would fail. Just one of the many things I don't understand. Like why backspace doesn't wor

jiffies patch?

2002-10-31 Thread Holly, Jason
can someone provide the actual name of the jiffies patch for suse enterprise server 7.0 on S390? tks, jah Jason A. Holly CSC Mid-Range Systems Support email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] desk: 256.544.7308 page: 256.551.3401

Re: Plagued by YAST 3270 problems

2002-10-31 Thread Adam Thornton
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 11:32:35AM -0500, Scott Chapman wrote: > Like why backspace > doesn't work the way I expect it to in vi. (I can only backspace over data > I just typed, not existing data.) That's because there is no backspace in vi, and if you're using backspace and it's working at all yo

Re: Guest LAN

2002-10-31 Thread Eddie Chen
Output form My Linux machine: CP Q LAN DET LAN SYSTEM HSI1Type: HIPERS Active: 2 MAXCONN: INFINITE PERSISTENT UNRESTRICTED MFS: 16384 Adapter Owner: SUSE7NIC: A000 Name: HSI1 192.168.138.207 Adapter Owner: TCPIPNIC: A000 Name: HSI1 192.159

Re: Plagued by YAST 3270 problems

2002-10-31 Thread Scott Chapman
LOL... Now maybe you can help me get my card reader working with Linux?? (No, I don't *think* we actually have one of those still available, but we did get a DB2 v7 PTF delivered on 3420 tape a week or so ago.) Scott Adam Thornton cc:

vi tutorial and HOWTO

2002-10-31 Thread Adam Thornton
It has come to my attention that there are those who do not feel comfortable with the "hjkl" layout which is fundamental to an understanding of the vi editor. To all of you, I have but one word: Nethack. Nethack uses the selfsame keys for movement. This has the added benefit of letting you conv

Re: vi tutorial and HOWTO

2002-10-31 Thread Jon Brock
And now, grasshopper, you have achieved perfection as a geek. Live long and prosper. Jon > It has come to my attention that there are those who do not feel > comfortable with the "hjkl" layout which is fundamental to an > understanding of the vi editor. > > To all of you, I have but one word:

Re: Plagued by YAST 3270 problems

2002-10-31 Thread Post, Mark K
Hey, the card reader on my Linux/390 guests have always worked, particularly with Malcolm Beattie's Unit Record device driver. Having VM helps with that, but David Boyes did verify its functionality with a piece of real UR hardware. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Scott Chapman [mailt

tool chain

2002-10-31 Thread Rick Troth
I'm trying to bullet-proof my kernel maint. Right now, I see the following dependency cascade: linux-2.4.19 requires glibc-2.2.5 requires gcc-3.2 requires binutils-2.12.90.0.15 requires gettext-0.11.5 I stumbled onto

Re: Plagued by YAST 3270 problems

2002-10-31 Thread James Melin
IMHO vi is the clearly among the most user hostile editors ever created. VI. Virtually Impossible. Very Irritating. Vastly Infuriating. Violently Insolent. Modern computers should use modern editors. (Ok. Ok, let the crucifiction and stoning begin) |-+> |

Re: Probably the first published shell code example for Linux/390

2002-10-31 Thread Ward, Garry
Simplicity? push something to the stack, decrement the address, and if you've gone negative, you've gone too far? PUSH DEC BN stack overrun BZ stack overrun sorry, PC assembler is a long time past, but I vaguely remember the argument being made that top down stacking was easier to manage. Garr

Re: Plagued by YAST 3270 problems

2002-10-31 Thread Stephen Frazier
Yes, you have card readers. Look at device address "00C" on almost any VM guest. It is normally a card reader. How else would you read the printouts from the VM spool if not with a card reader? I can hear all you youngsters thinking - "What is a card?" Stephen Frazier Oklahoma Department of Corre

Redhat Roadshow Info

2002-10-31 Thread Barbara Heppner
The best (and most accurate) way to get dates and locations is from the redhat Web site at www.redhat.com/roadtour. The tour kicks off today in Raleigh - there was a nice article in the Raleigh newspaper (http://www.newsandobserver.com/front/Business/story/1876136p-1865720c.html ). The Redhat Roa

Re: Probably the first published shell code example for Linux/390

2002-10-31 Thread Greg Smith
Ross Patterson wrote: At 11:08 10/30/2002 -0500, Post, Mark K wrote: And the key point here is that "getting in" simply requires modifying known exploits against vulnerable software with an S/390-specific payload. But it didn't have to be this way. If Linas Vepstas et al. had been able to fi

OT: Silly responses to RE: Plagued by YAST 3270 problems

2002-10-31 Thread David Boyes
> LOL... Now maybe you can help me get my card reader working > with Linux?? Can do. Mr Beattie's driver works on real 2540s. We have one customer who still uses them...8-). > (No, I don't *think* we actually have one of those still > available, but we > did get a DB2 v7 PTF delivered on 3420 t

Re: vi tutorial and HOWTO

2002-10-31 Thread Alan Cox
On Thu, 2002-10-31 at 18:50, Adam Thornton wrote: > It has come to my attention that there are those who do not feel > comfortable with the "hjkl" layout which is fundamental to an > understanding of the vi editor. > > To all of you, I have but one word: > > Nethack. > > Nethack uses the selfsame k

Re: Plagued by YAST 3270 problems

2002-10-31 Thread Abruzzese, Pat
I agree. > -Original Message- > From: James Melin [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 1:54 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Plagued by YAST 3270 problems > > IMHO vi is the clearly among the most user hostile editors ever created. > VI. Virtually Imp

Re: Plagued by YAST 3270 problems

2002-10-31 Thread Scott Chapman
But it is ubiquitous, therefore I will use it and learn it. Sure emacss is available to be installed on almost every platform too, but I think it's much more likely that you will find vi(m) installed on any given machine you may happen to touch. It wouldn't surprise me to find that vi(m) is part

Re: Probably the first published shell code example for Linux/390

2002-10-31 Thread Greg Smith
Ward, Garry wrote: Simplicity? push something to the stack, decrement the address, and if you've gone negative, you've gone too far? PUSH DEC BN stack overrun BZ stack overrun I've always been curious. Why is a top down stack used anyways ?? I understand that much but why did Intel

Re: Redhat Roadshow Info

2002-10-31 Thread Robert Reuscher
Lets go to Lawrence Kansas, Champaign, IL, and Edwardsville, IL, but skip Dallas TX? Wouldn't want to get anywhere near where businesses are located. Why preach this to universities, aren't most of these already sold on Linux anyway. On Thursday 31 October 2002 13:43, you wrote: > The best (an

Re: Probably the first published shell code example for Linux/390

2002-10-31 Thread James Tison
Because Intel's PUSH instruction decrements the stack pointer. POP increments it. It makes clear sense for Intel machines to have a downward growing stack: the hardware was designed that way ... Windoze and Linux both have downstacks. However, ESAME (and its predecessor) machines don't even have a

Re: Plagued by YAST 3270 problems

2002-10-31 Thread Malcolm Beattie
Post, Mark K writes: > Hey, the card reader on my Linux/390 guests have always worked, particularly > with Malcolm Beattie's Unit Record device driver. Having VM helps with > that, but David Boyes did verify its functionality with a piece of real UR > hardware. And for those who weren't aware: t

Linux Devices Article: MITRE report on use of Free and Open-Sourc e Software by the U.S. Dept. of Defense

2002-10-31 Thread Post, Mark K
"Mitre Corp. has published a study entitled Use of Free and Open-Source Software (FOSS) in the U.S. Department of Defense. The study was commissioned by the U.S. government, according to The Register (see first reference, below). "The full 160-page MITRE paper is available for free download..." h

Re: Plagued by YAST 3270 problems

2002-10-31 Thread John Campbell
> Scott Chapman, on vi: But it is ubiquitous, therefore I will use it and learn it. Sure emacss is available to be installed on almost every platform too, but I think it's much more likely that you will find vi(m) installed on any given machine you may happen to touch. It wouldn't surprise me

Re: Tuxedo on Linux-390?

2002-10-31 Thread Per Jessen
On Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:48:17 -0800, Luciano De Lio wrote: >Does anybody know if BEA's Tuxedo works on Linux/390? >If not, do you know of any other transaction monitor >that is commonly used on this operating system?? Hi, I used to work for BEA - was even a Tech Lead for BEA on Linux/390 - and AFA

Re: Silly responses to RE: Plagued by YAST 3270 problems

2002-10-31 Thread Stephen Frazier
3420 tape? Those are the things that they used in movies when ever they wanted to have a computer. And they never did anything but skip forward or rewind. Stephen Frazier Oklahoma Department of Corrections -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-linux-390@;VM.MARIST.EDU]

Re: Plagued by YAST 3270 problems

2002-10-31 Thread Stephen Frazier
You could also get pretty pictures by overprinting each line on the printer many times. I have a copy of the Mona Lisa that was produced that way. Stephen Frazier Oklahoma Department of Corrections -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-linux-390@;VM.MARIST.EDU]On Behal

Re: Probably the first published shell code example for Linux/390

2002-10-31 Thread James Tison
Thank you for your prompt, complete, and honest answer, Uli. I enjoy reading your answers to queries like these ... I usually walk away with better insight. By the way, I wasn't implying that any direction was better or worse than the other (each has its pros & cons) -- I think all the right archi

Tuxedo on Linux-390?

2002-10-31 Thread Luciano De Lio
Hello falks! I'm doing some reaserch in order to see the possibiliy of instaling Linux/390 on an IBM S/390. I know that there is no CICS for this operating system, so we are looking for a transaction monitor that works on Linux and we came accross this quote on the internet: "05/30/2002 - In resp

Re: Plagued by YAST 3270 problems

2002-10-31 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 10/31/2002 at 12:54 CST, James Melin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > IMHO vi is the clearly among the most user hostile editors ever created. > VI. Virtually Impossible. Very Irritating. Vastly Infuriating. Violently > Insolent. Modern computers should use modern editors. (Ok. Ok, let th

Re: Plagued by YAST 3270 problems

2002-10-31 Thread Adam Thornton
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 03:23:05PM -0500, Alan Altmark wrote: > Peace. Love. Linux. (Let's all hold hands and sing "Kumbaya".) I sure don't *remember* hitting the cough syrup this morning, but I think I'm hallucinating. Adam

Re: Probably the first published shell code example for Linux/390

2002-10-31 Thread Ulrich Weigand
James Tison wrote: >The gcc package can be configured to have the stack grow either way, and if >my light perusals of the kernel code (and my memory) are right, so can >Linux. I would have to think that the final decision would have to do with >memory mapping, guard pages, and vmm controls, as wel

Re: Probably the first published shell code example for Linux/390

2002-10-31 Thread Ross Patterson
At 22:52 10/31/2002 +0100, Ulrich Weigand wrote: while an upwards-growing stack might make some attacks more difficult, you can find other types of attacks. Absolutely true. And so I'd agree with you that stack direction didn't matter, except that the Standard C library includes some functions

Re: Probably the first published shell code example for Linux/390

2002-10-31 Thread Ross Patterson
At 15:03 10/31/2002 -0500, Greg Smith wrote: I understand that much but why did Intel want you to use a top-down stack ?? Because electrical engineers and computer designers stand on each others shoulders, just like mathemeticians. The DEC PDP-11 stack grew down (heck, I think the -7 did to

Re: Probably the first published shell code example for Linux/390

2002-10-31 Thread Ross Patterson
At 13:10 10/31/2002 -0600, Ward, Garry wrote: push something to the stack, decrement the address, and if you've gone negative, you've gone too far? Sure, and the same is true of upwards-growing stacks (only in the other direction, natch). The issue isn't accidental stack overflow. The differen

Re: Mainframe/Linux journal - your advice, please

2002-10-31 Thread John Summerfield
On Thu, 31 Oct 2002 23:40, you wrote: > i David > > > Thanks for your reply. > > > I think we probably would go for a PDF edition, as well as or instead of a > print edition. There are two problems, though, with electronic publishing. > People don't expect to pay very much, which is a real problem

Re: vi tutorial and HOWTO

2002-10-31 Thread Gregg C Levine
Hello from Gregg C Levine I resemble that remark. You can't wish a Vulcan expression on someone who's as emotional as a hacker, it won't work. --- Gregg C Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The Force will be with you...Always." Ob

Re: Silly responses to RE: Plagued by YAST 3270 problems

2002-10-31 Thread John Summerfield
On Fri, 1 Nov 2002 05:51, you wrote: > 3420 tape? Those are the things that they used in movies when ever they > wanted to have a computer. And they never did anything but skip forward or > rewind. I'm not much of a flick watcher, but I'd have thought 3420s too modern. 2400 series is what I'd reco

Re: Plagued by YAST 3270 problems

2002-10-31 Thread John Summerfield
On Fri, 1 Nov 2002 02:54, you wrote: > IMHO vi is the clearly among the most user hostile editors ever created. IMV it has a worthy rival in emacs which _still_ defeats me. -- Cheers John Summerfield Microsoft's most solid OS: http://www.geocities.com/rcwoolley/ Join the "Linux Support by Small

Re: Probably the first published shell code example for Linux/390

2002-10-31 Thread John Summerfield
On Fri, 1 Nov 2002 03:10, you wrote: > PUSH > DEC > BN stack overrun > BZ stack overrun > > > sorry, PC assembler is a long time past, but I vaguely remember the > argument being made that top down stacking was easier to manage. AIR pop & push don't affect the flags except then they're the target,

Re: Plagued by YAST 3270 problems

2002-10-31 Thread David Boyes
> IMV it has a worthy rival in emacs which _still_ defeats me. > -- > Cheers > John Summerfield So, you haven't discovered (setq `aussie-chunter-mode nil) in your ~/.emacs yet? That'll teach you not to ignore the warnings in M-x info M-i Detecting Down-Under Luser Modes in the extensive and fine d

Re: Mainframe/Linux journal - your advice, please

2002-10-31 Thread David Boyes
> I think we probably would go for a PDF edition, as well as or instead of a > print edition. Wise choice. I have nearby, cheap tree mills. 8-). > There are two problems, though, with electronic publishing. > People don't expect to pay very much, which is a real problem in a niche > market. We'd

Re: Plagued by YAST 3270 problems

2002-10-31 Thread Gregg C Levine
Hello again from Gregg C Levine Then why does emacs mange to confuse even me? Yes, it is a splendid job of being everything, and anything, but still there are limits. --- Gregg C Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The Force will be

Re: Plagued by YAST 3270 problems

2002-10-31 Thread John Summerfield
On Fri, 1 Nov 2002 03:36, you wrote: > It wouldn't surprise me to find that vi(m) is > part of Mac OS X. Haven't tried it, but in the only time I got to use OS X I found bash alive and well. -- Cheers John Summerfield Microsoft's most solid OS: http://www.geocities.com/rcwoolley/ Join the "L

Re: Probably the first published shell code example for Linux/390

2002-10-31 Thread John Summerfield
On Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:57, you wrote: > ... or a distribution that offers free security updates for everybody! > (SCNR) I certainly get a lot of free updates for RHL that I didn't pay for (IA32). I've happened to chance on some mirrors in the past day or too and they look like they're well-populat

Re: Plagued by YAST 3270 problems

2002-10-31 Thread John Summerfield
On Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:33, you wrote: > So, you haven't discovered (setq `aussie-chunter-mode nil) in your ~/.emacs Er, what's setq? I have enough trouble remembering how to get out of it. Actually, I have given it a fair trial and given at least three of its email clients a reasonable workout. -

WWTHOT:Re: Emacs joke....

2002-10-31 Thread David Boyes
> On Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:33, you wrote: > > So, you haven't discovered (setq `aussie-chunter-mode nil) in your ~/.emacs Joke, joke. It's a poke at the general obscurity of mode configurations -- there's a mode for everything. > Er, what's setq? I have enough trouble remembering how to get out of