Re: linuxvm.org down ? - Now it's up!

2008-08-08 Thread Dennis Andrews
linuxvm.org is back online. Dennis Andrews Velocity Software. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/ht

Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-08 Thread Ethan Lanz
Have you looked at http://x3270.bgp.nu/x3270-script.html#File-Transfer On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 13:21 -0500, Erik N Johnson wrote: > Ahh, it's a menu option. In the file menu. > > On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Erik N Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So x3270 includes IND$FILE functionality,

Re: OSSEC NIDS

2008-08-08 Thread Adam Thornton
On Aug 8, 2008, at 1:25 PM, Dulce M Robles wrote: Does anyone know if OSSEC on linux for sysym z is widely used? Does it work well System z linux? It works fine. It's not in any distributor's default packaging, I think, but it does pretty much what it says on the box. I don't know how widel

Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-08 Thread Erik N Johnson
Does anybody require UTF-8 support? On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Erik N Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ahh, it's a menu option. In the file menu. > > On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Erik N Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> So x3270 includes IND$FILE functionality, according to the we

Re: IND$FILE?

2008-08-08 Thread Kim Goldenberg
Erik N Johnson wrote: So x3270 includes IND$FILE functionality, according to the website daver++ pointed out. Still looking on the x3270 page for the documentation of this functionality. May just download the code and figure it out. There is a FILE TRANSFER menu option on the File menu. Kim

OSSEC NIDS

2008-08-08 Thread Dulce M Robles
Does anyone know if OSSEC on linux for sysym z is widely used? Does it work well System z linux? Thank you Dulce Robles - Sent from my BlackBerry Handheld. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access in

Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-08 Thread Erik N Johnson
Ahh, it's a menu option. In the file menu. On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Erik N Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So x3270 includes IND$FILE functionality, according to the website > daver++ pointed out. Still looking on the x3270 page for the > documentation of this functionality. May jus

Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-08 Thread Erik N Johnson
So x3270 includes IND$FILE functionality, according to the website daver++ pointed out. Still looking on the x3270 page for the documentation of this functionality. May just download the code and figure it out. On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Erik N Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And I cer

Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-08 Thread Erik N Johnson
And I certainly want to borrow code. I don't want to re-invent the networking protocol if I don't have to. The sooner I finish the sooner people can use it to solve real problems :-D On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 12:54 PM, McKown, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: L

Re: linuxvm.org down ?

2008-08-08 Thread Ivan Warren
Barton Robinson wrote: LinuxVM.ORG moved to our new z9, with the DNS moved about 3 days ago. We did this while Mark Post was away so as not to break anything he was working on. But our racf admin didn't set up the new racf rules correctly. we're moving the dns back to the old address now until

Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-08 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Erik N Johnson > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 12:51 PM > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion) > > Okay, I read the license for x3270, it's very short,

Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-08 Thread Erik N Johnson
Okay, I read the license for x3270, it's very short, if not too terribly sweet. It's basically the old school BSD license, use modify redistribute at your discretion but retain the above copyright notice. It means it isn't GPL compatible but it is totally workable under a permissive non-copy-left

Re: linuxvm.org down ?

2008-08-08 Thread Barton Robinson
LinuxVM.ORG moved to our new z9, with the DNS moved about 3 days ago. We did this while Mark Post was away so as not to break anything he was working on. But our racf admin didn't set up the new racf rules correctly. we're moving the dns back to the old address now until our security person c

Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-08 Thread Erik N Johnson
There's s3270 for 'scraping' which allows you to get the contents of a 3270 screen into a file. From there we could easily use awk to disect a text file and get needed information. Caveat: is x3270 really Free? Oftentimes open source code includes inconvenient restrictions from commercial use.

Re: linuxvm.org down ?

2008-08-08 Thread daver++
> From: Ivan Warren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hmmm... > > Getting a 404 for (everything I tried) as far as http://linuxvm.org is > concerned.. > > Looks like a fairly new development.. I can remember having been there > in the last few days.. I started getting that yesterday afternoon as well. -

Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-08 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Erik N Johnson > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 12:11 PM > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion) > > Sounds like fun, do you have a pointer to some docum

Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-08 Thread daver++
> From: Erik N Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sounds like fun, do you have a pointer to some documentation for IND$FILE? Good starting point: http://gsf-soft.com/Documents/IND$FILE.shtml -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / arch

Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-08 Thread David Boyes
> What say? You could test the theory using Kermit, which already knows how to deal with 3215 and 3270 consoles. C-Kermit certainly works fine on Linux, and a lot of terminal emulators support it. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / si

Re: IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-08 Thread Erik N Johnson
Sounds like fun, do you have a pointer to some documentation for IND$FILE? Erik Johnson On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 12:06 PM, McKown, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just had one of my flashes of "insight" (or is that "insanity"?). > Anyway, this whole thing about using the 3270 interface is for w

IND$FILE? (was: RE: 3270 console confusion)

2008-08-08 Thread McKown, John
I just had one of my flashes of "insight" (or is that "insanity"?). Anyway, this whole thing about using the 3270 interface is for when TCPIP access is not possible for some reason. Many want to use the various "full screen" editors to fix some files. So, my insight is this: how difficult would it

Re: swap to DCSS documentation/cookbook?

2008-08-08 Thread Gerald Schaefer
Linux on 390 Port wrote on 08-08-2008 16:59:05: > Carsten, > > > I am willing to guide you through the setup process. > > In short, you'll have to do the following steps: > > - use DERFSEG to define a dcss with one page "exclusive write" and the > > rest "exclusive nonsaved" access mode > Can yo

linuxvm.org down ?

2008-08-08 Thread Ivan Warren
Hmmm... Getting a 404 for (everything I tried) as far as http://linuxvm.org is concerned.. Looks like a fairly new development.. I can remember having been there in the last few days.. --Ivan -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signo

Re: 3270 console confusion

2008-08-08 Thread Erik N Johnson
There is a program called c3270. It's a curses-based 3270 emulator. I don't have a zLinux system to connect to, just MVS, so I can't test it but it seems possible that curses applications such as vi or nano would work. Just a theory. Sources for c3270 are available: http://x3270.bgp.nu/download

Re: 3270 console confusion

2008-08-08 Thread Adam Thornton
On Aug 8, 2008, at 11:18 AM, Erik N Johnson wrote: Are people limited to 3270 hardware to solve this problem or could a 3270 emulator provide an acceptable solution? Just curious. We're talking about tn3270 to z/VM to get the system console. At least I am. I don't have access to a working a

Re: 3270 console confusion

2008-08-08 Thread Erik N Johnson
Are people limited to 3270 hardware to solve this problem or could a 3270 emulator provide an acceptable solution? Just curious. Erik Johnson On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Romanowski, John (OFT) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For "anyone else having problems reaching www.linuxvm.org today?" > tr

Re: swap to DCSS documentation/cookbook?

2008-08-08 Thread Mark Wheeler
> > Considerations: > > 1- if the begin of dcss is lower than the size of the virtual machine, you > must open "a hole" in machine's memory to imbed it. > Like it: For a machine with 256M (140 + 116), use this command in > Profile.EXEC: DEF STORE CONFIG 0.140M 160M.116M > I have a REXX exec that r

Re: swap to DCSS documentation/cookbook?

2008-08-08 Thread Clovis Pereira
Mike, I'm not sure if it is the same case, but Omegamon XE uses DCSS and have some details to take into consideration. The command for define the dcss is: DEFSEG dcssname where: - = the range of pages that are to be saved. Here you specify the starting page and the ending page. - = the type o

Re: 3270 console confusion

2008-08-08 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
For "anyone else having problems reaching www.linuxvm.org today?" try http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ > This e-mail, including any attachments, may be confidential, privileged or otherwise legally protected. It is intended only for t

Re: Swap space in physical vs virtual servers

2008-08-08 Thread Adam Thornton
On Aug 8, 2008, at 9:54 AM, James Melin wrote: I'll have 658 gigs of 10,000 RPM server drives in this thing, so multiple swap volumes providing an aggregate 32-48 gig swap pool is possible, I just don't know that it is necessary. A lot of that depends of course on the application(s) being run.

Re: 3270 console confusion

2008-08-08 Thread Dave Jones
Hi, Robin Robin Atwood wrote: On Friday 08 Aug 2008, Dave Jones wrote: The only such application I know of is (was?) NED, and nobody can seem to find it anymore. That was the plan! Very interesting; please keep us posted as to what you discover. Where did you get your copy of NED? BTW,

Re: swap to DCSS documentation/cookbook?

2008-08-08 Thread Michael MacIsaac
Carsten, > I am willing to guide you through the setup process. > In short, you'll have to do the following steps: > - use DERFSEG to define a dcss with one page "exclusive write" and the > rest "exclusive nonsaved" access mode Can you give one example of this command? Is it OK to do this step fro

Swap space in physical vs virtual servers

2008-08-08 Thread James Melin
Greetings all. I've a question, perhaps philosophical about how much backing store you put into a machine. Looking at a situation where we're going to be (don't ask - We're sunsetting z-series here. The decision is not logical) moving WebSphere App Server and MQ Series from z/VM to physical serv

Re: 3270 console confusion

2008-08-08 Thread Robin Atwood
On Friday 08 Aug 2008, Dave Jones wrote: > The only such application I know of is (was?) NED, and > nobody can seem to find it anymore. That was the plan! > BTW, is anyone else having problems reaching www.linuxvm.org today? My > browser reports back "Not found" when I attempt to go there..

Re: 3270 console confusion

2008-08-08 Thread Dave Jones
Hi, Robin. I would suggest that you go to the Linux source web site I mentioned below (lxr.linux.no) and do a search on "3270" and take a loom at the comments in the 3270 device driver source code files. They may shed some more light on the subjectbut, of course, once you get the 3270 devi

Re: 3270 console confusion

2008-08-08 Thread Robin Atwood
On Friday 08 Aug 2008, Dave Jones wrote: > Hi, Robin. > > I've taken a quick look at the 3270 documentation available here: > http://lxr.linux.no/linux/Documentation/s390/ > and it too appears out of date. It mentions rebuilding the kernel with > both CONFIG_3270 and CONFIG_3270_CONSOLE options set

RPL for SuSE 10

2008-08-08 Thread Stahr, Lea
On SuSE 8 I used RPL to do a text replacement when cloning Linux guests. Is there a similar product on SuSE 10 or must I go find/install RPL myself? Lea Stahr zVM, Linux and zLinux Administrator Navistar, Inc. 630-753-5445 [EMAIL PROTECTED] CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail, and any attachment

3270 console confusion

2008-08-08 Thread Dave Jones
Hi, Robin. I've taken a quick look at the 3270 documentation available here: http://lxr.linux.no/linux/Documentation/s390/ and it too appears out of date. It mentions rebuilding the kernel with both CONFIG_3270 and CONFIG_3270_CONSOLE options set to y. However, the latest defconfig file does no

Re: swap to DCSS documentation/cookbook?

2008-08-08 Thread Carsten Otte
Pieter Harder wrote: I am starting to think about the possibilities 2GB above the bar DCSS in z/VM 5.4 will provide for replacing large Vdisk swap. But I can't find any usable documentation on how to do swap to DCSS. The basics are documented on dw and I can probably manage, but when anyone ha

Re: swap to DCSS documentation/cookbook?

2008-08-08 Thread Pieter Harder
> With DCSS, will it be first fit, or moving cursor allocation? First fit is > optimal, vdisk is moving cursor. DCSS > should be paged out with the same rules as vdisk, but this needs to be > verified in real life. The CPU savings are > "obvious", but are we talking 1 percent of 1 percent of a

Re: swap to DCSS documentation/cookbook?

2008-08-08 Thread Barton Robinson
Up until 5.4, DCSS was not a serious solution as it was very limited - people tried it because it was cool, but dot com was cool too. The performance of vdisk is well understood, we know how to minimize it's impact with multiple vdisks of smaller sizes, we know that it gets paged out when not

Re: Linux sles9 felt in coma

2008-08-08 Thread Mark Perry
Pieter Harder wrote: Why overkill? It is the setup that is decided on. Give production an absolute priority above everybody else, and let >> the rest contend in a free-for-all. Besides, if production does go long dormant it will lose it real pages. When it becomes active again we don't want it

Re: Linux sles9 felt in coma

2008-08-08 Thread Pieter Harder
>> Why overkill? It is the setup that is decided on. Give production an >> absolute priority above everybody else, and let >> the rest contend in a >> free-for-all. Besides, if production does go long dormant it will lose it >> real pages. When it >> becomes active again we don't want it to be h

Re: swap to DCSS documentation/cookbook?

2008-08-08 Thread Christian Borntraeger
Am Freitag, 8. August 2008 schrieb Mark Perry: > Pieter Harder wrote: > > Hi list, > > > > I am starting to think about the possibilities 2GB above the bar DCSS in z/VM 5.4 will provide for replacing large Vdisk swap. But I can't find any usable documentation on how to do swap to DCSS. The basics a

Re: Linux sles9 felt in coma

2008-08-08 Thread Mark Perry
Pieter Harder wrote: I think the answer to the standard STORBUF: Q1=125% Q2=105% Q3=95% not causing me grief is that I run production in Q0 >> due to quick dispatch being set. Production on averages owns 25-30 percent of real pages and never goes below 15 percent, so it is really hard for Q3 ma

Re: swap to DCSS documentation/cookbook?

2008-08-08 Thread Mark Perry
Pieter Harder wrote: Hi list, I am starting to think about the possibilities 2GB above the bar DCSS in z/VM 5.4 will provide for replacing large Vdisk swap. But I can't find any usable documentation on how to do swap to DCSS. The basics are documented on dw and I can probably manage, but when

Re: Linux sles9 felt in coma

2008-08-08 Thread Pieter Harder
>> I think the answer to the standard STORBUF: Q1=125% Q2=105% Q3=95% not >> causing me grief is that I run production in Q0 >> due to quick dispatch >> being set. Production on averages owns 25-30 percent of real pages and never >> goes below 15 >> percent, so it is really hard for Q3 machines

Re: Linux sles9 felt in coma

2008-08-08 Thread Mark Perry
Pieter Harder wrote: One more thing, the ABAP stacks go dormant when no users are working, but the dual stack never goes dormant. Rob vd Heij checked for me that is due to a 10 millisec timer in Java that we can't get rid of due to SAP Java version requirements. H'mm, I wonder if the new J9

swap to DCSS documentation/cookbook?

2008-08-08 Thread Pieter Harder
Hi list, I am starting to think about the possibilities 2GB above the bar DCSS in z/VM 5.4 will provide for replacing large Vdisk swap. But I can't find any usable documentation on how to do swap to DCSS. The basics are documented on dw and I can probably manage, but when anyone has been there

Re: Linux sles9 felt in coma

2008-08-08 Thread Pieter Harder
>Hi Peter, >as you probably know, we run several z/VM systems with many SAP Linux >Guests of about 8GB each, and STORBUF defaults always cause us to have >Guests on the E lists. Mine are 8 GB for production and 2 GB for DEV and QA ABAP only stacks, with 4 x 2GB Vdisks for swap. Only one dual sta