Re: Software design document

2003-03-03 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 08:47:04AM +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote: > I thought type42 fonts _were_ TTF fonts. Oh well. I'll try in any case, > but last time I tried to install TTF fonts by converting them to Type 1 > first, it was a very long procedure (which involved some old versions of > various progr

Re: Software design document

2003-02-27 Thread Beni Cherniavsky
On 2003-02-26, I wrote: > It [TeXmacs] has one fatal flaw: no Hebrew, no BiDi (it does have > tranlations and support for most European languages). I've just > mailed the developers asking whether they have bidi plans... > They replied that currently not (they in the middle of heavy restructuring

Re: Software design document

2003-02-26 Thread Beni Cherniavsky
On 2003-02-26, Nadav Har'El wrote: > On Tue, Feb 25, 2003, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote about "Re: Software design document": > > On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 06:30:52PM +0200, kfir lavi wrote: > > > > > what is the best for complicated mathematical notation

Re: Software design document

2003-02-26 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Nadav Har'El, from the post of Wed, 26 Feb: > > The bigger issue that (I believe) is raised in that link I gave is > that why should we, people who like Linux and develop for it, want to > waste our time to help Windows users. nobody is forcing you. but will you actively refuse to include

Re: Software design document

2003-02-26 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Nadav Har'El wrote: > On Wed, Feb 26, 2003, Eli Segal wrote about "Re: Software design document": > > Just one thought ... > > Why would anyone want users to leave windows .. > > > > I say, if someone is happy with his windows .. let

Re: Software design document

2003-02-26 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003, Eli Segal wrote about "Re: Software design document": > Just one thought ... > Why would anyone want users to leave windows .. > > I say, if someone is happy with his windows .. let him be > linux is alternative and that's the good part The bi

Re: Software design document

2003-02-26 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Muli Ben-Yehuda, from the post of Wed, 26 Feb: > > Ira, I'm afraid you misquoted. The above was said by Shlomif, and I > certainly do not agree to it. it was a quote of a quote (as the double >> sign noted), so I'm deeply sorry if amy of Shlomfi's words were attributed to you. mea culpa.

Re: Software design document

2003-02-26 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Eli Segal, from the post of Wed, 26 Feb: > Just one thought ... > Why would anyone want users to leave windows .. well, in a utopia, there will be a constant rise in the number of computer users, each picking his OS and tools in a balanced way, causing MS products to drop below the 50% sha

Specs of the PDF format [was Re: Software design document]

2003-02-26 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Shlomi Fish wrote: > On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Ira Abramov wrote: > > > Both are proprietary though (Ask Sklyarov). > > > > Skylarov was arrested for circumventing the Adobe eBook format, which is a > proprietary and undocumented way of scrambling a PDF. Otherwise, PDF is > fully d

Re: Software design document

2003-02-26 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Ira Abramov wrote: > Quoting Muli Ben-Yehuda, from the post of Wed, 26 Feb: > > > > > Seriously, while PDF is not a panacea for many Windows kiddies who only > > > know of Word, it is still much more accesible than PostScript. Sending a > > > document to a Windows guy in PS fo

Re: Software design document

2003-02-26 Thread Dan Kenigsberg
> > Seriously, while PDF is not a panacea for many Windows kiddies who only > > know of Word, it is still much more accesible than PostScript. Sending a > > document to a Windows guy in PS format is like sending a document to a > > UNIX guy in Word format. Not a nice thing to do. > > I disagree. U

Re: Software design document

2003-02-26 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 08:33:08AM +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote: > > > If you send it to your boss, while telling him that, you might get > > fired. The first document I prepared with LaTeX (an English one) I sent to a > > TAU education professor in PostSc

Re: Software design document

2003-02-26 Thread Eli Segal
, act, etc .. I want a world with chioces and it doesn't bothr me that windows is one of those choices - Original Message - From: "Ira Abramov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 9:59 AM

Re: Software design document

2003-02-26 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 09:59:17AM +0200, Ira Abramov wrote: > Quoting Muli Ben-Yehuda, from the post of Wed, 26 Feb: > > > > > Seriously, while PDF is not a panacea for many Windows kiddies who only > > > know of Word, it is still much more accesible than PostScript. Sending a > > > document to a

Re: Software design document

2003-02-26 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Muli Ben-Yehuda, from the post of Wed, 26 Feb: > > > Seriously, while PDF is not a panacea for many Windows kiddies who only > > know of Word, it is still much more accesible than PostScript. Sending a > > document to a Windows guy in PS format is like sending a document to a > > UNIX guy

Re: Software design document

2003-02-25 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Dekel Tsur wrote: > On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 07:35:02PM +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote: > > > I have a hebrew document sitting on the table next to me, made with > > > LaTeX, viewed by gv and acroread and printed through acroread, and it > > > looks absolutely fine, even the hebrew p

Re: Software design document

2003-02-25 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Nadav Har'El wrote: > On Tue, Feb 25, 2003, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote about "Re: Software design document": > > > is the conversion to pdf is easy, with no faults? > > > > Yes. Let me know if you want to see my LaTeX makefile, which is

Re: Software design document

2003-02-25 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 08:33:08AM +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote: > If you send it to your boss, while telling him that, you might get > fired. The first document I prepared with LaTeX (an English one) I sent to a > TAU education professor in PostScript format. He told me he cannot read > PS and asked

Re: Software design document

2003-02-25 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 10:28:44PM +0200, Beni Cherniavsky wrote: > > Having said that, it is feasible - and even recomended (since your document is > > complicated and full of features, we might earn a couple of bug fixes :) ) > > > I'd like to use UTF-8 but I can't manage to get omega/lambda to s

Re: Software design document

2003-02-25 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 07:35:02PM +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote: > > I have a hebrew document sitting on the table next to me, made with > > LaTeX, viewed by gv and acroread and printed through acroread, and it > > looks absolutely fine, even the hebrew parts. If it looks bad for you, > > try to invest

Re: Software design document

2003-02-25 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Tue, Feb 25, 2003, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote about "Re: Software design document": > > is the conversion to pdf is easy, with no faults? > > Yes. Let me know if you want to see my LaTeX makefile, which is based > on Oleg's. Also, make sure to follow the advice at &g

Re: Software design document

2003-02-25 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Tue, Feb 25, 2003, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote about "Re: Software design document": > On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 06:30:52PM +0200, kfir lavi wrote: > > > what is the best for complicated mathematical notations ? > > Tex, LaTeX, LyX, no contest. There's also &q

Re: Software design document

2003-02-25 Thread Beni Cherniavsky
On 2003-02-25, Dan Kenigsberg wrote: > I'm afraid I'll have to chill out the optimism a bit. The original post asked > about writing a complicated /hebrew/ document. The situation of ivritex, the > hebrew support for LaTeX, is far from perfect. Ready yourself for an odd bug > oneic in a while, and

Re: Software design document

2003-02-25 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 08:12:02PM +0200, Jason Friedman wrote: > > BTW: is there any script that is equivalent of MikTeX's texify? It would > > save much of the dirtier parts of that makefile. > > I use latexmk, a perl script, which does the same thing (runs perl / > bibtex the appropriate number

Re: Software design document

2003-02-25 Thread Jason Friedman
> BTW: is there any script that is equivalent of MikTeX's texify? It would > save much of the dirtier parts of that makefile. I use latexmk, a perl script, which does the same thing (runs perl / bibtex the appropriate number of times) It can be downloaded from CTAN: ftp://ftp.ctan.org/tex-archiv

Re: Software design document

2003-02-25 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 07:00:05PM +0200, kfir lavi wrote: > > > is the conversion to pdf is easy, with no faults? > > Yes. Let me know if you want to see my LaTeX makefile, which is based > on Oleg's. Also, make sure to follow the advice at > http://w

Re: Software design document

2003-02-25 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 07:16:45PM +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote: > > > It is for English documents, but not for Hebrew documents if you wish them > > to be viewed correctly with Acrobat Reader. I tried running pdfelatex on > > documents with some Hebrew in

Re: Software design document

2003-02-25 Thread Dan Kenigsberg
I'm afraid I'll have to chill out the optimism a bit. The original post asked about writing a complicated /hebrew/ document. The situation of ivritex, the hebrew support for LaTeX, is far from perfect. Ready yourself for an odd bug oneic in a while, and using a good font is still a problem (at lea

Re: Software design document

2003-02-25 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 07:16:45PM +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote: > It is for English documents, but not for Hebrew documents if you wish them > to be viewed correctly with Acrobat Reader. I tried running pdfelatex on > documents with some Hebrew in it, and the generated PDF still looks > horrible in A

RE: Software design document

2003-02-25 Thread Shlomi Fish
; Cc: Oron Peled; Eli Segal; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Software design document > > > On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 06:30:52PM +0200, kfir lavi wrote: > > > what is the best for complicated mathematical notations ? > > Tex, LaTeX, LyX, no contest. > > MS Word equati

Re: Software design document

2003-02-25 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 07:00:05PM +0200, kfir lavi wrote: > is the conversion to pdf is easy, with no faults? Yes. Let me know if you want to see my LaTeX makefile, which is based on Oleg's. Also, make sure to follow the advice at http://www.advogato.org/person/ladypine/diary.html?start=37 for p

RE: Software design document

2003-02-25 Thread kfir lavi
is the conversion to pdf is easy, with no faults? -Original Message- From: Muli Ben-Yehuda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 6:33 PM To: kfir lavi Cc: Oron Peled; Eli Segal; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Software design document On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 06:30

Re: Software design document

2003-02-25 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 06:30:52PM +0200, kfir lavi wrote: > what is the best for complicated mathematical notations ? Tex, LaTeX, LyX, no contest. MS Word equation editor if you're feeling masochist. -- Muli Ben-Yehuda http://www.mulix.org pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

RE: Software design document

2003-02-25 Thread kfir lavi
what is the best for complicated mathematical notations ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Oron Peled Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 7:05 PM To: Eli Segal Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Software design document On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 12:32

Re: Software design document

2003-02-24 Thread Eli Segal
I think emacs handle SGML quite well ... Is it right ? - Original Message - From: "Oron Peled" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Eli Segal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 7:05 PM Subject: Re: Software design doc

Re: Software design document

2003-02-24 Thread Oron Peled
On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 12:32:26 +0200 Eli Segal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > which will include text, picture (screens capture) and tables > It all should be in hebrew ofcourse, and easy transfer to html would be nice > > What is the best tool for such kind of a job ( a stable one) My first choice

Software design document

2003-02-24 Thread Eli Segal
Hey, I want to write a software design document (Ifiun in Hebew) (אפיון) which will include text, picture (screens capture) and tables It all should be in hebrew ofcourse, and easy transfer to html would be nice What is the best tool for such kind of a job ( a stable one) thanx Eli