mailer

2006-06-16 Thread Avraham Rosenberg
Hi, I have to send a lot of letters and E-mails to announce my impending change of address and phone number. Usually I am using mutt, and I have no problem, when the recipients are linux users, or when the messges are in English. This time, the message has to be in Hebrew and some, if not most of t

Thunderbird mailer

2011-08-04 Thread Stan Goodman
So far, I have not found a way to write a Hebrew message with lines beginning at the right side of the window. With Kmail it was obvious --- there were buttons for right, left, and center positioning. Where is something equivalent in Thunderbird? -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel __

Re: mailer

2006-06-16 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, Jun 16, 2006 at 06:41:23PM +0300, Avraham Rosenberg wrote: > Hi, > I have to send a lot of letters and E-mails to announce my > impending change of address and phone number. > Usually I am using mutt, and I have no problem, when the > recipients are linux users, or when the messges are in E

Re: mailer

2006-06-16 Thread Avraham Rosenberg
On Fri, Jun 16, 2006 at 01:07:33PM -0400, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On Fri, Jun 16, 2006 at 06:41:23PM +0300, Avraham Rosenberg wrote: > > Besides, you should send UTF-8 and not ISO-8859-8-i . > > > Besides, this is > > a statistcs of one. Other ms-windows set-ups might behave > > differently.

Re: mailer

2006-06-17 Thread Shlomo Solomon
The following is NOT an efficient or recommended solution, but since you seem to be looking for a 1-time solution for clueless recipients, you could try this: 1 - create your Hebrew message using whatever you usually use 2 - run Ksnapshot (my Mandriva box is set up to run it in responce to PrtSc

Re: mailer

2006-06-17 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, Jun 16, 2006 at 08:51:46PM +0300, Avraham Rosenberg wrote: > On Fri, Jun 16, 2006 at 01:07:33PM -0400, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 16, 2006 at 06:41:23PM +0300, Avraham Rosenberg wrote: > > > > Besides, you should send UTF-8 and not ISO-8859-8-i . > > > > > Besides, this is >

Re: mailer

2006-06-17 Thread Avraham Rosenberg
On Sat, Jun 17, 2006 at 09:19:00PM +0300, Shlomo Solomon wrote: > The following is NOT an efficient or recommended solution, but since you seem > to be looking for a 1-time solution for clueless recipients, you could try > this: > > -- > Shlomo Solomon > http://the-solomons.net > Sent by KM

Re: mailer

2006-06-18 Thread Avraham Rosenberg
On Sat, Jun 17, 2006 at 06:39:57PM -0400, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On Fri, Jun 16, 2006 at 08:51:46PM +0300, Avraham Rosenberg wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 16, 2006 at 01:07:33PM -0400, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 16, 2006 at 06:41:23PM +0300, Avraham Rosenberg wrote: > > > > > > > My (def

Mailer-daemon messages

2000-11-23 Thread Bareket
Hi, Does anyone know how do i edit the qmail MAILER-DAEMON texts (the texts that appear in the messages from the mailer-daemon to the users)? Bareket = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscrib

Re: Thunderbird mailer

2011-08-04 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Thu, Aug 04, 2011 at 03:17:36PM +0300, Stan Goodman wrote: > So far, I have not found a way to write a Hebrew message with lines > beginning at the right side of the window. With Kmail it was obvious > --- there were buttons for right, left, and center positioning. > Where is something equivalen

Re: Thunderbird mailer

2011-08-04 Thread shimi
On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Stan Goodman wrote: > So far, I have not found a way to write a Hebrew message with lines > beginning at the right side of the window. With Kmail it was obvious --- > there were buttons for right, left, and center positioning. Where is > something equivalent in Thun

Re: Thunderbird mailer

2011-08-04 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Thu, Aug 04, 2011 at 03:23:22PM +0300, shimi wrote: > On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Stan Goodman > wrote: > > > So far, I have not found a way to write a Hebrew message with lines > > beginning at the right side of the window. With Kmail it was obvious --- > > there were buttons for right, l

Re: Thunderbird mailer

2011-08-04 Thread Shachar Shemesh
On 08/04/2011 03:23 PM, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: > On Thu, Aug 04, 2011 at 03:17:36PM +0300, Stan Goodman wrote: >> So far, I have not found a way to write a Hebrew message with lines >> beginning at the right side of the window. With Kmail it was obvious >> --- there were buttons for right, left

Re: Thunderbird mailer

2011-08-04 Thread Shachar Shemesh
On 08/04/2011 04:36 PM, Stan Goodman wrote: On 08/04/2011 03:58 PM, Shachar Shemesh wrote: On 08/04/2011 03:23 PM, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: On Thu, Aug 04, 2011 at 03:17:36PM +0300, Stan Goodman wrote:

Re: Thunderbird mailer

2011-08-04 Thread Moish
On 04/08/2011 16:27, Shachar Shemesh wrote: On 08/04/2011 04:36 PM, Stan Goodman wrote: On 08/04/2011 03:58 PM, Shachar Shemesh wrote: On 08/04/2011 03:23 PM, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: On Thu, Aug 04, 2011 at 03:17:36PM +0300, Stan Goodman wrote: So far, I have not found a way to write a He

Re: Thunderbird mailer

2011-08-04 Thread Stan Goodman
On 08/04/2011 07:01 PM, Moish wrote: Open the xpi file and change the max version in the rdf file. I've opened the xpi and rdf files. The relevant part of the latter is: * {3550f703-e582-4d05-9a08-453d09bdfdc6} 2.0 5.* * TB is v5.0. BiDi seems t

Re: Thunderbird mailer

2011-08-04 Thread Moish
On 04/08/2011 18:52, Stan Goodman wrote: On 08/04/2011 07:01 PM, Moish wrote: Open the xpi file and change the max version in the rdf file. I've opened the xpi and rdf files. The relevant part of the latter is: * {3550f703-e582-4d05-9a08-453d09bdfdc6} 2.0 5.* * TB is v5.0. BiDi

Re: Thunderbird mailer

2011-08-04 Thread Stan Goodman
On 08/04/2011 08:58 PM, Moish wrote: On 04/08/2011 18:52, Stan Goodman wrote: On 08/04/2011 07:01 PM, Moish wrote: Open the xpi file and change the max version in the rdf file. I've opened the xpi and rdf files. The relevant part of the latter is: * {3550f703-e582-4d05-9a08-453d09bdfd

Re: Thunderbird mailer

2011-08-04 Thread Tomer Cohen
Hi, I'm CCing the addon maintainer, maybe he have some good answers for you all. In case Eyal is not subscribed to the list, his comments might be held for moderation. (Eyal - You can read the full discussion here: http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/pipermail/linux-il/2011-August/thread.html) Anyway, n

Re: Thunderbird mailer

2011-08-04 Thread Dotan Cohen
2011/8/4 Tomer Cohen : > And if you want to see the RTL composition feature embedded to Thunderbird > in the future, please comment on the following two bugs and mention how > important is this feature to you: > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=464436 > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show

Re: Thunderbird mailer

2011-08-12 Thread Uri Even-Chen
With all the respect to Thuderbird, I moved to Gmail and Google Apps years ago. I recommend using Gmail or Google Apps for email. Then you can use any computer to read and write mail, not just at home or your laptop. Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http

Re: Thunderbird mailer

2011-08-12 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi Uri, On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 18:58:40 +0300 Uri Even-Chen wrote: > With all the respect to Thuderbird, I moved to Gmail and Google Apps years > ago. I recommend using Gmail or Google Apps for email. Then you can use any > computer to read and write mail, not just at home or your laptop. > the p

Re: Thunderbird mailer

2011-08-12 Thread Stan Goodman
On Friday 12 August 2011 18:58:40 you wrote: > With all the respect to Thuderbird, I moved to Gmail and Google Apps > years ago. I recommend using Gmail or Google Apps for email. Then > you can use any computer to read and write mail, not just at home or > your laptop. > > Uri Even-Chen > Mobile P

Re: Thunderbird mailer

2011-08-12 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 23:01, Stan Goodman wrote: > I tried Thunderbird for about a month and concluded that I don't like > it. De gustibus non est disputandum. I'm back to Kmail now, with > enhanced respect for it. > טעם וריח.‏ (I had to google it) > As for problems of text orientation, includ

Re: Thunderbird mailer

2011-08-13 Thread Alan Yaniger
One tangential note to Dotan's article regarding inserting non-printing characters: In OpenOffice, you can use "Insert->Formatting Mark", which gives you a handy submenu of such characters. This is more convenient than using "Insert->Special Character", which requir

Re: Thunderbird mailer

2011-08-13 Thread Stan Goodman
Please forgive the top-posting. I think anything else would be cruel in this case. The quoted message is entirely in HTML formatting. I don't know why anybody uses HTML in email, but it is altogether out of place in list traffic. It is worse in this case, because the message contains no plain-

Re: Thunderbird mailer

2011-08-13 Thread Dotan Cohen
2011/8/13 Alan Yaniger : > One tangential note to Dotan's article regarding inserting non-printing > characters: > > In OpenOffice, you can use "Insert->Formatting Mark", which gives you a > handy submenu of such characters. This is more convenient than using > "Insert->Special Character", which re

Re: Thunderbird mailer

2011-08-13 Thread Shachar Shemesh
On 08/13/2011 08:42 PM, Alan Yaniger wrote: > One tangential note to Dotan's article regarding inserting non-printing > characters: > > In OpenOffice, you can use "Insert->Formatting Mark", which gives you a > handy submenu of such characters. This is more convenient than using > "Insert->Special

Re: Thunderbird mailer

2011-08-14 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 07:53, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > I should point out that the document is somewhat out of date, as we are > quickly approaching a keyboard layout that: > > 1. Will be standard > and > 2. Will have all of the keys that lyx has. > How does an upcoming standard make the page so

Re: Thunderbird mailer

2011-08-14 Thread Shachar Shemesh
On 08/14/2011 08:05 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: > At least the LRM and RLM are there. There are some issues with the new > keyboard layout: > 1) The lack of LRE/RLE/PDF. What is violent about the change of > appearance? Like any other tool, if one understands how to use it then > it works. If not then

Re: Thunderbird mailer

2011-08-15 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 22:19, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > I suggest that you tap the existing resources, that clearly document the > reasons behind both decisions, rather than assume (incorrectly, I might > add) stuff about it, and then fling it around like it was a curse-word. > I meant to be hars

Re: Thunderbird mailer

2011-08-15 Thread Shachar Shemesh
On 08/15/2011 11:54 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: > On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 22:19, Shachar Shemesh wrote: >> I suggest that you tap the existing resources, that clearly document the >> reasons behind both decisions, rather than assume (incorrectly, I might >> add) stuff about it, and then fling it around

Re: Thunderbird mailer

2011-08-18 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 18:12, Shachar Shemesh wrote: >  I >> didn't assume anything, all the facts that I mention are referred to >> here (your site): >> http://www.lingnu.com/en/howto/78-si1452.html >> > > As for the actual criticism, when you've shown that you understood WHY > the decisions wer

Re: Thunderbird mailer

2011-08-18 Thread Stan Goodman
On Thursday 18 August 2011 21:06:40 Dotan Cohen wrote: > [1] How to say דווקא in English? The word is obviously related to e,g, דייק, and that's the clue. How to translate it depends on the sentence, but I usually find that it fits with "precisely", or "specifically", or something similar. This

Re: Thunderbird mailer

2011-08-18 Thread Shachar Shemesh
On 08/18/2011 09:06 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 18:12, Shachar Shemesh wrote:  I didn't assume anything, all the facts that I mention are referred to here (your site): http://www.lingnu.com/en/howto/78-si1452.

Re: Thunderbird mailer

2011-08-18 Thread Dotan Cohen
Shachar, your mailing in mungling quoted replies. The past three levels of quotes all came out as single gr's. I fixed them manually below to preserve context. On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 21:57, Shachar Shemesh wrote: >> Your previous post explaining why RLM and LRM >> were not included was very cle

Re: Thunderbird mailer

2011-08-18 Thread Shachar Shemesh
On 08/18/2011 10:53 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: > Shachar, your mailing in mungling quoted replies. The past three > levels of quotes all came out as single gr's. I fixed them manually > below to preserve context. for some reason, latest thunderbirds (hurrah, we came back on topic!) refuses to default

Re: Thunderbird mailer

2011-08-18 Thread Dotan Cohen
2011/8/18 Shachar Shemesh : > Since there is no way to embed > paragraph direction (and other changes) in text only, > Yes there is, just put this non-printing character at the beginning of your RTL emails: -‫ - ‬-- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com

Re: Thunderbird mailer

2011-08-18 Thread Shachar Shemesh
On 08/19/2011 12:52 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: > 2011/8/18 Shachar Shemesh : >> Since there is no way to embed >> paragraph direction (and other changes) in text only, >> > Yes there is, just put this non-printing character at the > beginning of your RTL emails: -‫ - > Doesn't do the same thing, neith

Re: Thunderbird mailer

2011-08-18 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 08:04, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > On 08/19/2011 12:52 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: > >> 2011/8/18 Shachar Shemesh : >>> Since there is no way to embed >>> paragraph direction (and other changes) in text only, >>> >> Yes there is, just put this non-printing character at the >> begin

Re: Thunderbird mailer

2011-08-18 Thread Shachar Shemesh
On 08/19/2011 08:13 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: > Really? Was is the effect of embedding paragraph direction in HTML? > What is the effect of the character that I posted? How do they differ? On the theoretical level, an RLE at the beginning of the paragraph means to embed an RTL run inside the paragra

Re: Thunderbird mailer

2011-08-21 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 08:28, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > On the practical level, many implementations (Windows' edit control > included) do line breaks and only then BiDi. As a result, all state is > lost at the end of the line, and the RLE only covers the first line of > the paragraph. Since most

Re: Thunderbird mailer

2011-08-21 Thread Eyal Rozenberg
The result leaves a bit to be desired: 1) The promised two buttons for determining the justification direction are nowhere to be seen (yes, I have checked that box for displaying them). Customize the toolbars (for the main 3-pane window and for the composition window) and you ca

Re: Thunderbird mailer

2011-08-22 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 08:08, Shai Berger wrote: > Hi Dotan, > > Sorry about the delay in getting back to you -- I just returned from a > vacation. > > There's a little too little context here for me to understand what the > discussion is about, or how I can help; I sincerely hope I can. Please n

Problem with the mailer

2003-07-16 Thread dittigas
Sorry to bother people with this, but I seem to be receiving 2 copies of most messages sent to linux-il. Checking the header shows both are sent via [EMAIL PROTECTED] so I guess I am not listed twice. Any ideas? = To unsubscribe, s

Good mailer for linux

1999-10-27 Thread Dmitry Fink (aka FINiK)
Hi, I'm looking for a good mailer for linux. It should be graphical, should support threads (mainly for reading linux-il :) and should deal the same way with folders as "pine" does, since I still wan to be able to use pine, when connected by remote).

Re: Good mailer for linux

1999-10-27 Thread guy keren
On Wed, 27 Oct 1999, Dmitry Fink (aka FINiK) wrote: > It should be graphical, should support threads (mainly for reading > linux-il :) and should deal the same way with folders as "pine" does, > since I still wan to be able to use pine, when connected by remote). from past discussions of this s

Re: Good mailer for linux

1999-10-27 Thread Vadim Vygonets
x27;t know if such beast exists. But there is mutt, which is a really-nice text-mode mailer. Much better than pine, but then, pine is really awful, so it's not a big compliment. Anyway, mutt is probably the best mailer I've ever seen. Vadik. -- If there was anything that depressed him

Re: Good mailer for linux

1999-10-27 Thread Ohad M. Somjen
an to be able to use pine, when connected by remote). > > I don't know if such beast exists. But there is mutt, which is a > really-nice text-mode mailer. Much better than pine, but then, > pine is really awful, so it's not a big compliment. Anyway, mutt pine rocks big t

Re: Good mailer for linux

1999-10-28 Thread Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo
OMS>> > I don't know if such beast exists. But there is mutt, which is a OMS>> > really-nice text-mode mailer. Much better than pine, but then, OMS>> > pine is really awful, so it's not a big compliment. Anyway, mutt OMS>> OMS>> pine rocks big

Re: Good mailer for linux

1999-10-28 Thread Meir Litmanovich
> from past discussions of this subject here, no such thing exists for > linux. thus, you'l have to settle with lesser mail clients. > Just thought ... You can use IMAP with pine as well as any other IMAP client. I think - you'll not have any problem with IMAP folders if you're working this way.

Re: Good mailer for linux

1999-10-28 Thread Vadim Vygonets
Quoth Ohad M. Somjen on Thu, Oct 28, 1999: > pine rocks big time !!! Nah. It's inconsistent, and it does things behind your back. > you can give exmh a try. it's based on mh and from what > little experience i had with it's a pretty good mailer. The problem is tha

Mozilla mailer bug ? (was Re: Machba and Hebrew)

2002-07-16 Thread Guy Baruch
I cannot view E. Tromers mail using mozilla's mailer (blank page) (this is mozilla 1.0.0 client pulling from an IMAP server) does anyone else have this problem (so I'll report a mozilla bug) or should I investigate my

Re: Mozilla mailer bug ? (was Re: Machba and Hebrew)

2002-07-16 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Works for me - Mozilla on Windows. I pulled it via POP3, though. Guy Baruch wrote: > I cannot view E. Tromers mail using mozilla's mailer (blank page) > (this is mozilla 1.0.0 client pulling from an IMAP server) > > does anyone else have this problem (so I'll report a moz

Re: Mozilla mailer bug ? (was Re: Machba and Hebrew)

2002-07-17 Thread Guy Baruch
thanks to all that responded, and specific thanks for Eran which dilligently located the problem. it is not a Mozilla bug but a bug in weizmann's firewall. > -- -- regards +--- + Guy Baruch , Plasma Laboratory, Weizmann Insti

Silly Q : Does the GNU Emacs ver. 19 mailer supports MIME ?

2002-06-24 Thread Shlomi Fish
The title says it all pretty much. I personally don't use the emacs mailer, but I know a lecturer who does. Regards, Shlomi Fish -- Shlomi Fish[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://t2.technion.

Re: Silly Q : Does the GNU Emacs ver. 19 mailer supports MIME ?

2002-06-24 Thread Yair Friedman (Jerusalem)
On Mon, 24 Jun 2002 16:59:36 +0300 (IDT), Shlomi Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The title says it all pretty much. I personally don't use the emacs > mailer, but I know a lecturer who does. Emacs19 is really old. It also have several mailers all of them support MIME in r

Re: Silly Q : Does the GNU Emacs ver. 19 mailer supports MIME ?

2002-06-24 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
"Yair Friedman (Jerusalem)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 24 Jun 2002 16:59:36 +0300 (IDT), > Shlomi Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > The title says it all pretty much. I personally don't use the emacs > > mailer, but I know a lec

[OFFTOPIC] The word 'davka' is complicated to translate (was: Re: Thunderbird mailer)

2011-08-18 Thread Omer Zak
There is a special blog article devoted to this subject: http://elephant.org.il/translate/davka.html --- Omer On Thu, 2011-08-18 at 21:38 +0300, Stan Goodman wrote: > On Thursday 18 August 2011 21:06:40 Dotan Cohen wrote: > > [1] How to say דווקא in English? > > The word is obviously related to

Re: [OFFTOPIC] The word 'davka' is complicated to translate (was: Re: Thunderbird mailer)

2011-08-18 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 22:08, Omer Zak wrote: > There is a special blog article devoted to this subject: > http://elephant.org.il/translate/davka.html > > --- Omer > Nice, thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com ___ L

Re: [OFFTOPIC] The word 'davka' is complicated to translate (was: Re: Thunderbird mailer)

2011-08-18 Thread Stan Goodman
On Thursday 18 August 2011 22:08:29 Omer Zak wrote: > There is a special blog article devoted to this subject: > http://elephant.org.il/translate/davka.html It's not harder to translate than any other word. It's only necessary to think what one wants to say, which not everyone does. As I said ear

Re: [OFFTOPIC] The word 'davka' is complicated to translate (was: Re: Thunderbird mailer)

2011-09-11 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 22:08, Omer Zak wrote: > There is a special blog article devoted to this subject: > http://elephant.org.il/translate/davka.html > > --- Omer > I think that I've finally found the word in English: poetic. See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poetic_justice Also, in the m