Re: pppsetup [Apache Q]

1999-03-30 Thread Andre E. Bar'yudin
On Tue, 30 Mar 1999, Schlomo Schapiro wrote: > [...] > more specific stuff (like "Why doesn't apache follow the option > FollowSymLinks if I put it into a .htaccess file in a certain dir. Where > can I find more info & examples on .htaccess ?"). Please note the SECOND > part of the question. >

Re: =?iso8859-8?q?=E4=F6=F2=E4_____=E4=F2=F6=E4?=

1999-03-30 Thread Amos Shapira
On Tue, March 30 1999, tuvia beker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |> >> A very positive initiative! |Or is it?! |Many disadvantages were already listed by ira and alex. |English is clearly the most comfortable medium for discussions of |computer-related stuff. |With the exception of cases involvin

Re: Administrivia (was Re: äöòä äòöä)

1999-03-30 Thread Jonathan Ben-Avraham
On Tue, 30 Mar 1999, Vadim Vygonets wrote: > Hi there, List. > > As almost none of you know, I'm the postmaster of the box on > which this list runs. I'm not really reading this list, though, > so if you want to contact me personally, just do it. I'll read > this thread, though. > > Administr

Re: sporadic fsck error while boot

1999-03-30 Thread Vadim Smelyansky
On Tue, 30 Mar 1999, Gal Aviel wrote: GA>I did read what's on the screen. I just didn't understand. I even know how GA>a unix file system is build in general (inodes, super block, ...). I hope now you understand it :) GA>> $ man tune2fs GA> GA>so what sould I do ? use a rescue disk and c

Re: =?iso8859-8?q?=E4=F6=F2=E4_____=E4=F2=F6=E4?=

1999-03-30 Thread Vadim Smelyansky
On Tue, 30 Mar 1999, Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo wrote: SMakaF>MZA>> .(linux-il) åæ äöåôú úîéùøá úéøáòá íéøñî çåìùî SMakaF>MZA>> ããåòì / øùôàì òéöî éðà

The list and newbies

1999-03-30 Thread Ori Idan
I have been reading the list for few days now. I see many good things and good solutions to problems. But it seems to many people are short of patience. Also to many discussions about the what should be done or what should not be done on the list. I think we should all restrict our selfs to LINUX

Re: The list and newbies

1999-03-30 Thread Jonathan Ben-Avraham
On Tue, 30 Mar 1999, Ori Idan wrote: > I have been reading the list for few days now. > I see many good things and good solutions to problems. > > But it seems to many people are short of patience. > Also to many discussions about the what should be done or what should > not be done on the list.

Re: some function problems

1999-03-30 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
"Alon Kadury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > i'm new to linux, just starting to learn, and have some problems: Your problems are not really Linux-related, but what the hell... Just as long as you realize that it's [somewhat] off-topic. > 1. how do i write a function that gets as an argument a na

New Dimension

1999-03-30 Thread Eli Marmor
Yet another important Linux announcement of an Israeli company: http://www.ndsoft.com/corporat/news/pressrel/p136.html The New Dimension is still an Israeli company, although it is going to be owned by BMC, for $670 million. In the last weeks, there was no week without a new Linux annou

A Special Linux Edition of People and Computers

1999-03-30 Thread Eli Marmor
I still didn't receive it, but I already saw its cover page: http://www.pc.co.il/bt/sharim/ifw834.GIF They asked me to write something, so I guess I'll find my name there, but I didn't have any idea that the whole edition is going to be about Linux. I hope they didn't edited the stuff I p

Another ISDN newbie question.

1999-03-30 Thread Ron
  Hi!   I am using SlackWare 3.6 with kernel version 2.0.36 i have compiled isdn 4 linux, and yet, every time i use isdnctrl it tells me that /dev/isdnctrl isnt  exist allthough  its there, with the correct permmisions (i think :-)   The kernel does recognize my fritz card, and i managed t

Re: security [was: Linux partitions seen on win95]

1999-03-30 Thread Guy Baruch
Probably most people here know this, but for those that don't: the way to protect sensitive data is to cipher it, wether as a ciphered partition (CFS) or, if that's too slow, there are other ways on the same principal. these tools require another password (a "mount" password) for accessing the o

Re: =?iso8859-8?q?=E4=F6=F2=E4_____=E4=F2=F6=E4?=

1999-03-30 Thread Matan Ziv-Av
> 1. Many of us use & preffer for English only email solution. Why? Do you speak english with other people? If I called you to ask something about linux (assuming you will be willing to answer), will we speak in english or in hebrew? > 2. Many users here don't live in US, nor using Outlook for

Re: =?iso8859-8?q?=E4=F6=F2=E4_____=E4=F2=F6=E4?=

1999-03-30 Thread Matan Ziv-Av
> MZA>> .(linux-il) åæ äöåôú úîéùøá úéøáòá íéøñî çåìùî > MZA>> ããåòì / øùôàì òéöî éðà > > If you only could at least format you lines so that they'd be readable... You are right. This is a feature / bug of PINE 4.05_heb2.07, which I will fix / work around for the next hebrew messages.

Re: Administrivia (was Re: äöòä äòöä)

1999-03-30 Thread Evgeny Stambulchik
Vadim Vygonets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The list will finally support digests, but I'll need to discuss > the configuration with you. The digests can be sent either every > X days (say, a week, a month, or something), or after it grows to > some size (1MB), or both (every week, unless it

Sendmail masquerading and "Return-Path" header

1999-03-30 Thread Evgeny Stambulchik
Hello, I thought that with domain masquerading (DM) set sendmail should rewrite the "Return-Path" header, however it doesn't. Am I wrong? Anyway, if someone has the ruleset ready, I'd appreciate the possibility to avoid digging in the sendmail rules myself :) Regards, Evgeny -- ___

Re: äöòä äòöä

1999-03-30 Thread Yoni Elhanani
Liran Zvibel wrote: > > Quoting Eli Marmor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > A very positive initiative! > Indeed! > > Just think of it: most of the newbies will post to the Hebrew speaking list (I > think that this can be easily assumed), and we won't have to read all that > crap. Actually, I like this

Re: =?iso8859-8?q?=E4=F6=F2=E4_____=E4=F2=F6=E4?=

1999-03-30 Thread Alex Shnitman
> > 1. Many of us use & preffer for English only email solution. > > Why? Do you speak english with other people? If I called you to ask > something about linux (assuming you will be willing to answer), will we > speak in english or in hebrew? For most people, there's a vast difference bet

Digest form and newbies

1999-03-30 Thread Ori Idan
I suggest a digest form of once a day, a longer period may make it longer time for people to get response to their questions. As for newbies, what about making a news group instead of mailing list? That way you don't have to download all the annoying questions. Ori Idan O. T. Idan LTD. National

Lilo boot problem.

1999-03-30 Thread Oded Arbel
will someone remind me why sometimes Lilo hangs while booting , and I get the following output instead of - "lilo:" : l 04 04 04 04 04 04 ... and continues like that until I reboot. I'm using RH5.1 on a P75. lilo is installed on /dev/hda which is 420MB (WDC AC2420) and linux is booting from /de

Re: Hebrew

1999-03-30 Thread Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo
MZA>> Why? Do you speak english with other people? If I called you to ask MZA>> something about linux (assuming you will be willing to answer), will we MZA>> speak in english or in hebrew? I'm not sure I'd speak either of them, if you'd call me without me asking you to do so. ;)) And if you'd wak

Re: Administrivia (was Re: äöòä äòöä)

1999-03-30 Thread Vadim Vygonets
People, tell me what you think please. Quoth Evgeny Stambulchik on Tue, Mar 30, 1999: > Vadim Vygonets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The list will finally support digests, but I'll need to discuss > > the configuration with you. > > I suggest 64KB and 3 days (either of conditions is enough

Re[2]: Administrivia (was Re: äöòä äòöä)

1999-03-30 Thread Evgeny Stambulchik
Vadim Vygonets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 64KB seems to be one day (or less) on this list. You're right, it's about 100K a day during the last couple of months. > > Also (not actually related), I'd like everyone to use plain text > messages > > instead of HTML. > > I can also set the o

Re: Administrivia (was Re: äöòä äòöä)

1999-03-30 Thread Vadim Vygonets
Quoth Evgeny Stambulchik on Tue, Mar 30, 1999: > Vadim Vygonets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 64KB seems to be one day (or less) on this list. > > You're right, it's about 100K a day during the last couple of months. So? Should I setup digests to be sent nightly? > > I can also set the opti

cdrecor/moltisesion

1999-03-30 Thread Ben Nes Michael
Hi Any body know how much space the multisession option in cdrecord consume (between the session) I calculated 45 MB but im not sure -- -- Canaan Surfing Ltd. Internet Service Providers Ben-Nes Michael - Manager Tel: 972-6-6925757 Fax: 972-6-6925858 http://www.canaan.co.i

Re[2]: Administrivia (was Re: äöòä äòöä)

1999-03-30 Thread Evgeny Stambulchik
Vadim Vygonets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So? Should I setup digests to be sent nightly? It's fine with me. > but do HTML messages actually > arrive to this list? They do at times. Another suggestion: make submissions allowed only to the list subscribers. This will eliminate the spam, a

Re: Administrivia (was Re: \344\366\362\344 \344\362\366\344)

1999-03-30 Thread alex khalil
ar 30, 1999 at 01:09:58AM +0200 On Tue, Mar 30, 1999 at 01:09:58AM +0200, Vadim Vygonets wrote: >I'm planning to migrate all our mailing lists, including >linux-il, from Majordomo to Listar. I don't know exactly when it Interesting. I am moving my lists from majordomo to mailman. Mostly to

Re: public_html problem

1999-03-30 Thread Dmitry Fink (aka FINiK)
I have the same problem, there are 2 identical users, with same permissions for their dirs and for their public_html dirs, but for one it does work and for another doesn't > Mike writes: > > > Does any one know why the public_html dir in some users home dir doesn't > > work ? > > any idea

Re: public_html problem

1999-03-30 Thread Alex Shnitman
Dmitry Fink (aka FINiK) writes: > I have the same problem, there are 2 identical users, with same > permissions for their dirs and for their public_html dirs, but for one it > does work and for another doesn't Check the apache error log, maybe it says something useful? -- Alex Shnitman

Re: Re[2]: Administrivia (was Re: äöòä äòöä)

1999-03-30 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Evgeny Stambulchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Another suggestion: make submissions allowed only to the list > subscribers. This will eliminate the spam, as well as stupid > auto-confirmation messages we had trouble with some time ago. Unfortunately, the auto-confirmation messages went direc

Re: Administrivia (was Re: äöòä äòöä)

1999-03-30 Thread Vadim Vygonets
Quoth Evgeny Stambulchik on Tue, Mar 30, 1999: > Vadim Vygonets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > So? Should I setup digests to be sent nightly? > > It's fine with me. Agreed. If nobody objects. > Another suggestion: make submissions allowed only to the list subscribers. Of course I'll do i

Re: Administrivia (was Re: \344\366\362\344 \344\362\366\344)

1999-03-30 Thread Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo
ak>> Interesting. I am moving my lists from majordomo to mailman. ak>> Mostly to get a) away from perl and into python b) a web interface BTW, I've recently discovered web interface to majordomo - MajorCool. Looks... err... cool. :) Somebody used it, has something to say about it? The only thi

Re: Administrivia (was Re: \344\366\362\344 \344\362\366\344)

1999-03-30 Thread Vadim Vygonets
Quoth alex khalil on Tue, Mar 30, 1999: > On Tue, Mar 30, 1999 at 01:09:58AM +0200, Vadim Vygonets wrote: > > >I'm planning to migrate all our mailing lists, including > >linux-il, from Majordomo to Listar. I don't know exactly when it > > Interesting. I am moving my lists from majordomo to

Re: cdrecor/moltisesion

1999-03-30 Thread Erez Doron
Ben Nes Michael wrote: > > Hi > > Any body know how much space the multisession option in cdrecord consume > (between the session) > I calculated 45 MB but im not sure > > -- > -- > Canaan Surfing Ltd. > Internet Service Providers > Ben-Nes Michael - Manager > Tel: 972-6

Re: Administrivia (was Re: äöòä äòöä)

1999-03-30 Thread Adam Morrison
Vadim Vygonets wrote: > > Another suggestion: make submissions allowed only to the list subscribers. > > Of course I'll do it. Please reconsider. Spam does suck, but there are other methods of dealing with it, and this prevents several common configurations from using the list.

Re[2]: Administrivia

1999-03-30 Thread Evgeny Stambulchik
Adam Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Vadim Vygonets wrote: > > > > Another suggestion: make submissions allowed only to the list > subscribers. > > > > Of course I'll do it. > > Please reconsider. Spam does suck, but there are other methods of > dealing > with it, and this prev

Re: Administrivia

1999-03-30 Thread Adam Morrison
Evgeny Stambulchik wrote: > > Please reconsider. Spam does suck, but there are other methods of > > dealing > > with it, and this prevents several common configurations from using the > > list. > > Which configurations? BTW, the restriction should be based on the "From:" > header (not "From

Administrivia

1999-03-30 Thread Vadim Vygonets
0. Power failures = On Passover, power failures are expected in the Givat Ram campus, so this list will be down part of the time. 1. Mailing list setup = *** a. Subscribe confirmations Yes. You will have to send confirmation messages when subscribing or uns

Re: sporadic fsck error while boot

1999-03-30 Thread Gal Aviel
thank you all for the good advice ! this list is a great thing, I learned allot since I first subscribed.. keep it up ! gal.

Re: Administrivia (was Re: äöòä äòöä )

1999-03-30 Thread Shachar Tal
At 18:27 30/03/99 +0200, Vadim Vygonets wrote: >Quoth Evgeny Stambulchik on Tue, Mar 30, 1999: >> Vadim Vygonets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > So? Should I setup digests to be sent nightly? >> >> It's fine with me. > >Agreed. If nobody objects. I prefer it to be just before 22:00. Some

Re: Administrivia (was Re: äöòä äòöä )

1999-03-30 Thread Vadim Vygonets
Quoth Shachar Tal on Tue, Mar 30, 1999: > My opinion is that digests should be sent at 22:00 (if the time can be > configured, that is...) It can be configured, although I perfer the night, because at 22:00 this list and this mailserver are still busy. The nightly jobs run at 3:10am here, and th

Re: Administrivia

1999-03-30 Thread Amos Shapira
On Tue, March 30 1999, Adam Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |Evgeny Stambulchik wrote: | |> > Please reconsider. Spam does suck, but there are other methods of |> > dealing |> > with it, and this prevents several common configurations from using the |> > list. |> |> Which configurations?

Re: Administrivia

1999-03-30 Thread Amos Shapira
On Tue, March 30 1999, Vadim Vygonets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |Change your From: header. Or telnet to the box you receive mail |on. I can't get it, aren't you guys subscribed to other lists |where only subscribers can post? Yes, I am to a couple of such lists and it's a nuisance, besides hav

Re: Administrivia

1999-03-30 Thread Alex Shnitman
Amos Shapira writes: > |> > Please reconsider. Spam does suck, but there are other methods of > |> > dealing > |> > with it, and this prevents several common configurations from using the > |> > list. I second that. My subscription address is also different from my From: address. As Fr

Re: Administrivia

1999-03-30 Thread Vadim Vygonets
Quoth Alex Shnitman on Tue, Mar 30, 1999: > I second that. My subscription address is also different from my From: > address. As Frodo said: if it ain't broken, don't fix it. It is broken. > The moment > we start getting an annoying amount of spam because the list is open, > is the moment shoul

Re: Administrivia

1999-03-30 Thread Alex Shnitman
Vadim Vygonets writes: > > The moment > > we start getting an annoying amount of spam because the list is open, > > is the moment should start worrying about it. > > The moment people start complaining is the moment we should start > about fixing the bug. Yeah yeah. One Microsoft way. I

Re: FTP access for users ?

1999-03-30 Thread Oded Arbel
>Alex Shnitman wrote: > > >> > PS. I hope you're aware that enabling non-anonymous ftp access not inside a >> > firewalled network is basically equivalent to putting all your users' >> > passwords in the plain text format and sending it to a ... er ... mailing >> > list :) >> >> Do you mind el

Re: Administrivia

1999-03-30 Thread Vadim Vygonets
Quoth Alex Shnitman on Tue, Mar 30, 1999: > I'm sorry to sound even more Microsoftian, but this is not a bug, this > is a feature. :-) One that allows us to subscibe e.g. using > [EMAIL PROTECTED] for filtering purposes and continue using > [EMAIL PROTECTED] when mailing out so that personal repli

Re: Administrivia

1999-03-30 Thread Alex Shnitman
Vadim Vygonets writes: > > I'm sorry to sound even more Microsoftian, but this is not a bug, this > > is a feature. :-) One that allows us to subscibe e.g. using > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] for filtering purposes and continue using > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] when mailing out so that personal replies go

Re: =?iso8859-8?q?=E4=F6=F2=E4_____=E4=F2=F6=E4?=

1999-03-30 Thread Ira Abramov - Scalable Solutions
Today, Matan Ziv-Av blurbed: > > 1. Many of us use & preffer for English only email solution. > > Why? Do you speak english with other people? If I called you to ask > something about linux (assuming you will be willing to answer), will we > speak in english or in hebrew? half-and-half. if I

Re: Administrivia

1999-03-30 Thread Ira Abramov - Scalable Solutions
Today, Vadim Vygonets blurbed: > > The moment > > we start getting an annoying amount of spam because the list is open, > > is the moment should start worrying about it. > > The moment people start complaining is the moment we should start > about fixing the bug. Yeah yeah. One Microsoft way.

Re: Lilo boot problem.

1999-03-30 Thread Yedidya Bar-david
Hi Oded Arbel wrote: > > will someone remind me why sometimes Lilo hangs while booting , and I get > the following output instead of - "lilo:" : > l 04 04 04 04 04 04 ... and continues like that until I reboot. from /usr/doc/lilo/Manual.txt.gz (in Debian, at least, I guess everywhere): L

Re: Hebrew

1999-03-30 Thread Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo
IASS>> half-and-half. if I read you something off the screen, I won't IASS>> translate it on the fly. "Tivdok Et HaKinfug Shel HaInittab, VeTekanfeg The word "kinfug" somehow associates in my brain with "kung-fu". I imagine user kicking the innocent screen and crying "why my default color depth

Re: Hebrew

1999-03-30 Thread Ira Abramov - Scalable Solutions
Tomorrow, Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo blurbed: > IASS>> a buggy mail reader whose security hole allowed the "melissa" virus > > That's not Outlook hole. That's brain hole of users that opened this > document. Well, if they use Word and allow VB to execute, they deserve it > anyway. :) well,

Re: Hebrew

1999-03-30 Thread Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo
IASS>> I fired up outlook was 2 years ago. on TV they didn't say what the virus IASS>> does, just said it works through outlook. I later looked into some other You may look on it on http://www.root.org/. The virus is completely Open Source. :)) In fact, since it's all the source, no wonder about

Re: Debian 2.1 CDs?

1999-03-30 Thread shaul
> I've got the 4 CD set (2 binary + 2 sources) of Debian 2.1. I'll copy it at cost > for anyone who wants it or loan it for a day or two after this weekend as long > as I'm not flooded with requests. I live in Tel-Aviv & work in Herzliya so > that's where you can pick it up. Just contact me throug

Re: Debian 2.1 CDs?

1999-03-30 Thread Alex Shnitman
The official CDs contain main and contrib. Since CheapBytes make official CDs, that's what they contain. I have downloaded non-US and non-free, together they are 570 MB so they fill almost an entire CD, and I originally intended to offer it together with the Debian CDs I was supposed to get from

Re: Administrivia

1999-03-30 Thread Peter L. Peres
>I'm asking again and again: how come that people on other mailing >lists can live perfectly with closed-post mailing lists, and you, >the mailing list dealing with Linux, the operating system for the >clever hackers, can't? Just explain it to me, will you? imho, this one is simple: every time

Re: äöòä äòöä

1999-03-30 Thread Peter L. Peres
On Tue, 30 Mar 1999, Liran Zvibel wrote: >Another idea: How about a list with .wav files as attachments? It will be even >easier then writing Hebrew! I suggest to send uncompressed video clips (1024x768x23Mcolors+quadro sound) instead, or maybe nuke the target directly. The total effect would be

Re: Administrivia

1999-03-30 Thread Vadim Vygonets
Quoth Ira Abramov - Scalable Solutions on Tue, Mar 30, 1999: > Today, Vadim Vygonets blurbed: Yup, I did. > > I'm asking again and again: how come that people on other mailing > > lists can live perfectly with closed-post mailing lists, and you, > > the mailing list dealing with Linux, the opera

Re: The list and newbies

1999-03-30 Thread Ira Abramov - Scalable Solutions
Today, Jonathan Ben-Avraham blurbed: > > I think we should all restrict our selfs to LINUX related subjects on > > the list and not waste bandwidth and time on how things should be > > done. > Arguing about how things should be done (amuta - yes/no, Hebrew - yes/no, > Palestinians - yes/no, new

JOB: programmers for Xpresso Linux (fwd)

1999-03-30 Thread Ira Abramov
anyone with free time? -- Forwarded message -- From: Marc MERLIN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I got contacted by Stephen Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> because he is looking for programmers to work on a new distribution that uses windows to get all the settings

Re: Administrivia

1999-03-30 Thread Vadim Vygonets
Quoth Alex Shnitman on Wed, Mar 31, 1999: > >3. Message size limited to 8KB, excluding headers. What > > do you think about that? > > Is it possible to put some kind of directive in a letter that would > pass it through even though it's bigger? >8k messages might be needed > when sen

Re: The list and newbies

1999-03-30 Thread Vadim Vygonets
Quoth Ira Abramov - Scalable Solutions on Tue, Mar 30, 1999: > newbies used to be threatend with flogging with a differential SCSI > cable in the official FAQ. We Had a healthy argument about it, now that > paragraph is gone. The argument may have been healthy, but the solution was not. The intro

Re: Administrivia

1999-03-30 Thread Oren Tirosh
> You will need to be subscribed to the list in order to post. The > "From:" header is what is checked. I don't see any good reason > to set up the list any other way. If anybody does, tell me. Many people have more than one email address and their From: field is not necessarily the same one

Re: Administrivia

1999-03-30 Thread Ira Abramov - Scalable Solutions
Tomorrow, Vadim Vygonets blurbed: > I like your software. How about, "Tomorrow, Vadik will blurb"? talk to the pine developers, I'm only using features others wrote... :-) > > nope, the two-list mechanism should not fall on the users. > > A-ha. I think that users must RTFM. show me ONE othe

Re: Administrivia

1999-03-30 Thread Vadim Vygonets
Quoth Ira Abramov - Scalable Solutions on Tue, Mar 30, 1999: > > > nope, the two-list mechanism should not fall on the users. > > > > A-ha. I think that users must RTFM. > > show me ONE other list that is run that way (second registration to > allow posting), and I don't mean a cs.huji one that

Netscape /Squid2patch2 /mime ?

1999-03-30 Thread Ben Nes Michael
Hi all I got Squid 2patch2 and Apache 1.3.3. I put on the http server MS doc file and some ttf, which i can download easily when using direct connection with Netscape (from Win). But if I set the netscape to use the proxy the file get up corrupted, what strange is that IE get it ok. I tried it f

Re: Netscape /Squid2patch2 /mime ?

1999-03-30 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
I think your problem is with setting the correct MIME types for .doc and .ttf on the Apache server. try adding them to conf/mime.conf Gilad. Ben Nes Michael wrote: > > Hi all > > I got Squid 2patch2 and Apache 1.3.3. > I put on the http server MS doc file and some ttf, which i can download > e