Re: [OT?] Coding Style

2001-01-26 Thread James Stevenson
Then there is reasability. void ThisIsMyDumbassFunctionName so how many times have you typed something like ThisIsMyDumbAssFunctionName instead of ThisIsMyDumbassFunctionName if MUCH more difficult to read than void this_is_my_clear_and_easy_function_name I can certainly read

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Helge Hafting
"H. Peter Anvin" wrote: "David S. Miller" wrote: It says "reserved for future use, must be zero". I think the descrepency (and thus what the firewalls are doing) comes from the ambiguous "must be zero". I cannot fathom the RFC authors meaning this to be anything other than "must

Re: Running make install runs lilo on my Athlon but not my Pentium II.

2001-01-26 Thread Miles Lane
Russell King wrote: Miles Lane writes: When I run "make install" on my Pentium II machine, lilo gets run after vmlinuz is built. When I do the same thing on my Athlon, vmlinuz gets built, but lilo does get run. Have you checked for the existance of a /sbin/installkernel file on

Re: 2.4.1-pre8 losing pages

2001-01-26 Thread Peter Horton
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 03:20:33AM +0100, Xuan Baldauf wrote: Peter Horton wrote: I'm experiencing repeatable corruption whilst writing large volumes of data to disk. Kernel version is 2.4.1-pre8, on an 850MHz AMD Athlon on an ASUS A7V (VIA KT133 chipset) motherboard 128M RAM (tested

2.4.0-ac10 crashed

2001-01-26 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus
hi. this morning i found my home server crashed. a full screen of [%8lx], no idea what was above that. Aieee, killing in interrupt handler! In Interrupt handler - not syncing. Code 80 78 0E 00 75 04 C6 40 0e 30 31 c0 88 d8 50 56 e8 5f 1D 00 dmesg after reboot: Linux version 2.4.0-ac10

Re: ECN and other sites

2001-01-26 Thread Walter Hofmann
On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Michael B. Trausch wrote: I've kinda been watching the ECN discussion there, and I have 2.4.0 and noticed that after I'd installed it, I couldn't get to my favorite search engine (Dogpile.com). I'd assume they don't support it either, because when I "echo 0

Re: [PATCH](s): Use spinlocks instead of STI/CLI in SoundBlaster

2001-01-26 Thread Chris Rankin
spin_lock_irqsave() and save_flags()+cli() are identical on uniprocessor builds. OK, so a UP-build proves nothing ... cli() is quite putrid on SMP and should be shot. This much I understand ... You can test your patch on uniprocessor hardware - just build an SMP kernel and run it. If it

Re: Kernel 2.4.0 loop device still hangs

2001-01-26 Thread Jens Axboe
On Fri, Jan 26 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Bratcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw a post dated last fall 2000 sometime about the loop device hanging when copying large amounts of data to a file mounted as, say, ext2fs. I've recently reported a similar problem and told by

Re: mapping physical memory

2001-01-26 Thread Dan Maas
I need to be able to obtain and pin approximately 8 MB of contiguous physical memory in user space. How would I go about doing that under Linux if it is at all possible? The only way to allocate that much *physically* contiguous memory is by writing a driver that grabs it at boot-time (I

RE: Marking sectors on IDE drives as bad

2001-01-26 Thread Wahlman, Petter
The problem still persist, even after marking the respective block with: badblocks -n -o /var/log/badblocks, and e2fsck -l /var/log/badblocks the corrupted block is: dumpe2fs -b /dev/hda5 dumpe2fs 1.19, 13-Jul-2000 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09 655573 fsck is forced at boot, with the previously

Re: ioremap_nocache problem?

2001-01-26 Thread Stephen C. Tweedie
Hi, On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 09:56:32AM -0600, Timur Tabi wrote: ioremap*() is only supposed to be used on IO regions or reserved pages. If you haven't marked the pages as reserved, then iounmap will do the wrong thing, so it's up to you to reserve the pages. Au contraire! I mark the

Re: ioremap_nocache problem?

2001-01-26 Thread Stephen C. Tweedie
Hi, On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 10:49:50AM -0600, Timur Tabi wrote: set_bit(PG_reserved, page-flags); ioremap(); ... iounmap(); clear_bit(PG_reserved, page-flags); The problem with this is that between the ioremap and iounmap, the page is reserved. What happens if

Re: ioremap_nocache problem?

2001-01-26 Thread Stephen C. Tweedie
Hi, On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 11:53:01AM -0600, Timur Tabi wrote: As in an MMIO aperture? If its MMIO on the bus you should be able to just call ioremap with the bus address. By nature of it being outside of real ram, it should automatically be uncached (unless you've set an MTRR

Re: Marking sectors on IDE drives as bad

2001-01-26 Thread Andrzej Krzysztofowicz
"Wahlman, Petter wrote:" The problem still persist, even after marking the respective block with: badblocks -n -o /var/log/badblocks, and e2fsck -l /var/log/badblocks fsck is forced at boot, with the previously mentioned error: Jan 26 10:32:37 evil kernel: hda: read_intr: error=0x01 {

patch for 2.4.0 disable printk

2001-01-26 Thread Stefani Seibold
Hi Linus, Hi Alan, Hi everybody, this kernel patch allows to disable all printk messages, by overloading the printk function with a dummy printk macro. This patch is usefull for embedded systems, where the hardware never changes and normaly no textconsole is attachted nor any user will see

Re: eepro100 problems in 2.4.0

2001-01-26 Thread Torben Mathiasen
On Friday, 26 January 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 04:19:27PM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote: Oops, sorry guys. Thanks to DaveM for correcting me -- my patch has nothing to do with the "card reports no resources" problem. My apologies. No problems.

Re: inode-i_dirty_buffers redundant ?

2001-01-26 Thread Stephen C. Tweedie
Hi, On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 09:05:54PM +0100, Daniel Phillips wrote: "Stephen C. Tweedie" wrote: We also maintain the per-page buffer lists as caches of the virtual-to-physical mapping to avoid redundant bmap()ping. Could you clarify that one, please? The buffer contains a physical

kernel 2.4.0 bug report

2001-01-26 Thread Christian Becker
Dear kernel developers, with my alpha machine I have the following problems: Problem 1: 2.4.0 kernel hangs sporadically on AlphaServer ES40 Description: On the machine specified below kernel 2.4.0 hangs completely from time to time. The machine has ECC correctable memory errors and I suppose

Re: kapm-idled and cpu heating ...

2001-01-26 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! I've read the december thread, I've searched the web and I could not come out with an answer, so here I dare to ask (please cc me for any answer as I am not subscribed to the list, I just read the kernel cousin version). I just installed 2.4.0 on my laptop (dell cpi a366x). I noticed

(Fwd) Re: ALi Datasheets

2001-01-26 Thread NightHawk
--- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 23:20:42 -0500 (EST) From: "Mike A. Harris" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NightHawk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: ALi Datasheets On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, NightHawk wrote:

[PATCH] (revised): spinlocks in SoundBlaster

2001-01-26 Thread Chris Rankin
Hi, I compiled an SMP kernel on my UP box to test my spinlock patch properly. Suffice to say that here is a revised version (ahem! ;-) The other patches I posted seem to be OK. Cheers, Chris --- linux-2.4.0/drivers/sound/sb.h.orig Fri Jan 26 13:57:40 2001 +++ linux-2.4.0/drivers/sound/sb.h

Renaming lost+found

2001-01-26 Thread Rob Kaper
If this is ext2 specific, just say so and I'll find a better list to discuss this: (any good ext2 lists available for example?) Is there a way to rename lost+found ?? It bothers me to see it in ls all the time because 99.9% of my time it's just useless and I really think .lost+found (a hidden

Re: Running make install runs lilo on my Athlon but not my Pentium II.

2001-01-26 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
Miles Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes. The script exists on both machines, but I think you have nailed the problem. The working machine is running RedHat 6.2 plus a 2.4.0+ kernel. The other (the Athlon) is running Mandrake 7.2 plus a 2.4.0+ kernel. On the working machine, the

modprobe: Can't locate module binfmt-0000

2001-01-26 Thread Jean-Luc
Hi ! I've often the message : modprobe: Can't locate module binfmt-. Thsi has no effect on the system behaviour but what does it mean ? And how to suppress it ? -- Versions installed: (if some fields are empty or look -- unusual then possibly you have very old versions) Linux debian-f5ibh

[PATCH] MatroxFB support can't be compiled into kernel in 2.4.0-ac11

2001-01-26 Thread Bernhard Rosenkraenzer
Subject says it all - works as a module, but can't be compiled into the kernel because of duplicate definitions, caused by several files including matroxfb_base.h which in turn defines global_disp. Patch attached. LLaP bero --- linux/drivers/video/matrox/matroxfb_base.h.bero Fri Jan 26

Re: Renaming lost+found

2001-01-26 Thread Richard B. Johnson
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Rob Kaper wrote: If this is ext2 specific, just say so and I'll find a better list to discuss this: (any good ext2 lists available for example?) Is there a way to rename lost+found ?? It bothers me to see it in ls all the time because 99.9% of my time it's just useless

Re: Linux Post codes during runtime, possibly OT

2001-01-26 Thread Richard B. Johnson
On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, H. Peter Anvin wrote: "Richard B. Johnson" wrote: On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, H. Peter Anvin wrote: Matthew Dharm wrote: It occurs to me that it might be a good idea to pick a different port for these things. I know a lot of people who want to use port 80h

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Florian Weimer
"Jeremy M. Dolan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: RFC1812 Requirements for IP Version 4 Routers RFC 1812 mandates routing of IP packets with reserved flags, but not for TCP packets. RFC2979 Behavior of and Requirements for Internet Firewalls The last one seems it

[PATCH] Re: MatroxFB support can't be compiled into kernel

2001-01-26 Thread Petr Vandrovec
On 26 Jan 01 at 14:29, Bernhard Rosenkraenzer wrote: Subject says it all - works as a module, but can't be compiled into the kernel because of duplicate definitions, caused by several files including matroxfb_base.h which in turn defines global_disp. Patch attached. Oops. I did not tried

Re: 2.4.0 CDROM problem, ILLEGAL REQUEST

2001-01-26 Thread Jens Axboe
On Sun, Jan 21 2001, Gregory T. Norris wrote: When playing audio CDs under kernel 2.4.0, syslog is showing the following message repeatedly: sr0: CDROM (ioctl) reports ILLEGAL REQUEST. The command line utility cdplay seems to only cause this occasionally, when I start playing a CD

Re: Linux Post codes during runtime, possibly OT

2001-01-26 Thread Petr Vandrovec
On 26 Jan 01 at 8:58, Richard B. Johnson wrote: On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, H. Peter Anvin wrote: You could use the DMA scratch register at 0x19. I'm sure Linux doesn't "save" stuff there when setting up the DMA controller. I will change the port on my machines and run them for a week. I

Re: [PATCH] Re: MatroxFB support can't be compiled into kernel

2001-01-26 Thread Jeff Garzik
Petr Vandrovec wrote: On 26 Jan 01 at 14:29, Bernhard Rosenkraenzer wrote: Subject says it all - works as a module, but can't be compiled into the kernel because of duplicate definitions, caused by several files including matroxfb_base.h which in turn defines global_disp. Patch

Re: 2.4.0-pre10 -- Unresolved symbols in smctr.o and comx.o

2001-01-26 Thread Jeff Garzik
Miles Lane wrote: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.1-pre10/kernel/drivers/net/tokenring/smctr.o depmod: __bad_udelay When you see this, this means you have a -huge- udelay in there, like udelay(20) or udelay(5) or something. Big delays like that should be

Re: Linux Post codes during runtime, possibly OT

2001-01-26 Thread Richard B. Johnson
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Petr Vandrovec wrote: On 26 Jan 01 at 8:58, Richard B. Johnson wrote: On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, H. Peter Anvin wrote: You could use the DMA scratch register at 0x19. I'm sure Linux doesn't "save" stuff there when setting up the DMA controller. I will change the

Re: Linux Post codes during runtime, possibly OT

2001-01-26 Thread Mark Hahn
#ifdef SLOW_IO_BY_JUMPING #define __SLOW_DOWN_IO "\njmp 1f\n1:\tjmp 1f\n1:" #else -#define __SLOW_DOWN_IO "\noutb %%al,$0x80" +#define __SLOW_DOWN_IO "\noutb %%al,$0x19" this is nutty: why can't udelay be used here? empirical measurements in the thread show the delay is O(2us). - To

Re: Possible Bug: drivers/sound/maestro.c

2001-01-26 Thread Georg Nikodym
"MBT" == Michael B Trausch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MBT I've been using this driver and this hardware since I started MBT running Kernel 2.2.16. It _works_, however, whenever I have a MBT program that I compile that's especially large (the kernel, MBT glibc, etc.), or copy/move lots of

Re: Linux Post codes during runtime, possibly OT

2001-01-26 Thread Jamie Lokier
Mark Hahn wrote: #ifdef SLOW_IO_BY_JUMPING #define __SLOW_DOWN_IO "\njmp 1f\n1:\tjmp 1f\n1:" #else -#define __SLOW_DOWN_IO "\noutb %%al,$0x80" +#define __SLOW_DOWN_IO "\noutb %%al,$0x19" this is nutty: why can't udelay be used here? empirical measurements in the thread show the

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread David S. Miller
James Sutherland writes: A delayed retry without ECN might be a good compromise... Every single connection to ECN-broken sites would work as normal - it would just take an extra few seconds. Instead of "Hotmail doesn't work!" it becomes "Hrm... Hotmail is fscking slow, but Yahoo is

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Marian Jancar
Dominik Kubla wrote: Applications tend not to. Do we care about those that do? Apache? ... Sendmail? ... Samba? ... The class? ... Bueller? Bueller? ... They dont connect but listen on these specified ports. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the

Re: Linux Post codes during runtime, possibly OT

2001-01-26 Thread Manfred Spraul
+ * + * Changed the slow-down I/O port from 0x80 to 0x19. 0x19 is a + * DMA controller scratch register. [EMAIL PROTECTED] */ What about making that a config option? default: delay with 'outb 0x80', other options could be udelay(n); (n=1,2,3) outb 0x19 0x80 is a

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Chris Ricker
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, James Sutherland wrote: Except you can't retry without ECN, because DaveM wants to do a Microsoft and force ECN on everyone, whether they like it or not. Don't be absurd. It's a compile-time option that nobody, not even Dave Miller, is forcing you to compile into your

RE: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Randal, Phil
James Sutherland wrote: Except you can't retry without ECN, because DaveM wants to do a Microsoft and force ECN on everyone, whether they like it or not. If ECN is so wonderful, why doesn't anybody actually WANT to use it anyway? And there's the rub. Whether ECN is wonderful or not,

Re: Linux Post codes during runtime, possibly OT

2001-01-26 Thread Richard B. Johnson
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Jamie Lokier wrote: Mark Hahn wrote: #ifdef SLOW_IO_BY_JUMPING #define __SLOW_DOWN_IO "\njmp 1f\n1:\tjmp 1f\n1:" #else -#define __SLOW_DOWN_IO "\noutb %%al,$0x80" +#define __SLOW_DOWN_IO "\noutb %%al,$0x19" this is nutty: why can't udelay be used

Re: Linux Post codes during runtime, possibly OT

2001-01-26 Thread Richard B. Johnson
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Manfred Spraul wrote: + * + * Changed the slow-down I/O port from 0x80 to 0x19. 0x19 is a + * DMA controller scratch register. [EMAIL PROTECTED] */ What about making that a config option? default: delay with 'outb 0x80', other options could be

IPSec stack and calling a hardware driver using sleep_on/wake_up

2001-01-26 Thread Lee Cremeans
I'm working with a client on integrating a hardware driver for one of our products (using the Hi/fn 7751 encryption processor) with a FreeS/WAN-based IPSec stack. The problem I keep running into is when I send a packet to our driver to be decrypted. Usually, when we send a request to our driver,

Odd network trace...

2001-01-26 Thread Rogier Wolff
Hi, In the following trace, near the end, I see the server ack-ing all data sent sofar, but the client (Linux version 2.2.17 (root@cave) (gcc version egcs-2.91.66 19990314/Linux (egcs-1.1.2 release)) #4 Fri Oct 27 14:54:42 MEST 2000) does not continue to send further data, although that IS

Re: Linux Post codes during runtime, possibly OT

2001-01-26 Thread H. Peter Anvin
"Richard B. Johnson" wrote: I will change the port on my machines and run them for a week. I don't have any DEC Rainbows or other such. Yes, I know Linux will not run on a '286. Since 0x19 is a hardware register in a DMA controller, specifically called a "scratch" register, it is

Re: Linux Post codes during runtime, possibly OT

2001-01-26 Thread Jamie Lokier
Richard B. Johnson wrote: Slowing down I/O is absolutely necessary any time you set an index register or a page register. For instance, to access the CMOS chip, you write an index value out port 0x70, then you read or write from port 0x71. Modern CPUs can execute instructions MUCH faster than

Re: 2.4 updates

2001-01-26 Thread Michael Peddemors
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Svenning Soerensen wrote: Agreed, Of course, the ideal solution would be to have just one instance of zlib in the kernel, which the different parts could make use of. That would require some cooperation with the kernel developers though. Regards, Ferdinand O.

Re: mapping physical memory

2001-01-26 Thread Pauline Middelink
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001 around 05:39:38 -0500, Dan Maas wrote: I need to be able to obtain and pin approximately 8 MB of contiguous physical memory in user space. How would I go about doing that under Linux if it is at all possible? The only way to allocate that much *physically* contiguous

Re: Linux Post codes during runtime, possibly OT

2001-01-26 Thread Brian Gerst
"Richard B. Johnson" wrote: On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Manfred Spraul wrote: + * + * Changed the slow-down I/O port from 0x80 to 0x19. 0x19 is a + * DMA controller scratch register. [EMAIL PROTECTED] */ What about making that a config option? default: delay with 'outb

plug-in schedulers for linux 2_4_0

2001-01-26 Thread Scott Rhine
In the last month, there have been a few more minor changes to Loadable Schedulers for Linux. Both a new patch to the base kernels and deltas to previous downloads are provided. If you download new utilities be sure to download the new kernel, or libpset calls may not behave properly! Changes

Re: RE: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Lars Marowsky-Bree
On 2001-01-26T16:04:03, "Randal, Phil" [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: We may be right, "they" may be wrong, but in the real world arrogance rarely wins anyone friends. So you also turn of PMTU and just set the MTU to 200 bytes because broken firewalls may drop ICMP ? Sincerely, Lars

2.4.0 quality [was: 2.4.0 uptime]

2001-01-26 Thread Ville Herva
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 08:37:38AM +0100, you [Hans Eric Sandstrm] claimed: BP6/Dual Cel 400 (the 2.0 load is setiathome) -- [root@zekeserv /root]# uptime 8:28am up 20 days, 13:04, 2 users, load average: 2.00, 2.00, 2.00 [root@zekeserv /root]# uname -a Linux zekeserv 2.4.0 #2 SMP Fri

Re: fat32 corruption with 2.4.0

2001-01-26 Thread Nicolas GOUTTE
Please CC me! Thank you in advance! I don't know if I can help you but who knows! I am running Windows 95 without problems beside Linux, so my knowledge could be not the right one for your problem! 1. Codepages What is the code page used in Finnland by Windows 98 (surely not the American one:

Re: RE: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread James Sutherland
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote: On 2001-01-26T16:04:03, "Randal, Phil" [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: We may be right, "they" may be wrong, but in the real world arrogance rarely wins anyone friends. So you also turn of PMTU and just set the MTU to 200 bytes because broken

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Tony Hoyle
Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote: So you also turn of PMTU and just set the MTU to 200 bytes because broken firewalls may drop ICMP ? That doesn't affect huge numbers of websites. In the UK two of the largest ISPs - BT Internet and Freeserve - have ECN-blocking firewalls. So does theregister.co.uk

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Randal, Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because if we do try to force it, the response which will come back won't be "Linux is wonderful, it conforms to the standards". It will be "Linux sucks, we can't connect to xyz.com with it (or we can't connect because to xyz.com

Re: Possible Bug: drivers/sound/maestro.c

2001-01-26 Thread Michael B. Trausch
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Georg Nikodym wrote: FWIW, I too was having this kind of problem. When I starting living on 2.4.x kernels the problem went away. Also gone were sound dropping out when I busied my machine with compiles things. 2.4.0 still does it - not as often, but it still does

Re: inode-i_dirty_buffers redundant ?

2001-01-26 Thread Stephen C. Tweedie
Hi, On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 07:11:01PM -0200, Marcelo Tosatti wrote: We probably want another kind of "IO buffer" abstraction for 2.5 which can support buffer's bigger than PAGE_SIZE. Do you have any thoughts on that, Stephen? XFS is already doing this, with pagebufs being used in

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Drago Goricanec
At Fri, 26 Jan 2001 15:08:21 + (GMT), James Sutherland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, David S. Miller wrote: James Sutherland writes: I was not suggesting ignoring these. OTOH, there is no reason to treat an RST packet as "go away and never ever send traffic to

In kernel 2.4.0 in alloc_uhci when doing request_irq()

2001-01-26 Thread Thunder from the hill
Hi, I am using an usual VIA MPV3 onboard USB device (on a AMD K6-II 400 machine), and it has ever worked fine on Linux (until including 2.4.0-test10). Now I wanted to use the "retail" 2.4.0-kernel, and USB gets stuck while booting. Last messages are: usb.c: registered new driver usbdevfs usb.c:

Re: Linux Post codes during runtime, possibly OT

2001-01-26 Thread David Welch
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 08:19:58AM -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote: A better idea might be to find out what port, if any, Windows uses. If Windows does it, it is usually safe. Windows NT 4 Service Pack 6 doesn't use any delay however READ/WRITE_PORT_* are implemented as indirect function

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Rick Jones
As David pointed out, it is "reserved for future use - you must set these bits to zero and not use it _for your own purposes_. For non-rfc use of these bits _will_ break something the day we start using them for something useful. So, no reason for a firewall author to check these bits.

Re: ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Andrea Arcangeli
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 12:05:56PM -0500, Simon Kirby wrote: Hmm... Just wondering: what does TCP then do when it receives this ECN notification? Try harder, try less? Or does it get a specific packet It will act in the same way if it the packet was dropped (but the packet wasn't dropped).

Re: Renaming lost+found

2001-01-26 Thread James Lewis Nance
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 08:49:31AM -0500, Richard B. Johnson wrote: On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Rob Kaper wrote: Is there a way to rename lost+found ?? It bothers me to see it in ls all the Get used to it. This is part of the Linux/Unix heritage! A file-system without a lost+found directory is

Undoing chroot?

2001-01-26 Thread Paul Powell
Hello, I have a linux bootable CD which executes a custom init. The job of init is to figure out on which device the CD is located. After finding the CD, init mounts the device and executes a CHROOT to set the root directory to the CD. After I'm done I'd like to umount the CD and then eject

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Graham Murray
"Adam J. Richter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am surprised that anyone is seriously considering denying service to sites that do not implement an _experimental_ facility and have firewalls that try to play things safe by dropping packets which have 1's in bit positions that in the RFC

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Olaf Titz
I was not suggesting ignoring these. OTOH, there is no reason to treat an RST packet as "go away and never ever send traffic to this host again" - i.e. trying another TCP connection, this time with ECN disabled, would be acceptable. Using a different source port number, even. But that

[RFC] Task Ornaments

2001-01-26 Thread David Howells
PROPOSAL I have written a patch (appended) that gives a task structure a list of arbitrary "ornaments". Any number of ornaments can then be added without increasing the size of the task_struct. Each ornament has an operations table, much as do inodes and address spaces. These

Re: Undoing chroot?

2001-01-26 Thread alex
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 10:31:40AM -0800, Paul Powell wrote: I have a linux bootable CD which executes a custom init. The job of init is to figure out on which device the CD is located. After finding the CD, init mounts the device and executes a CHROOT to set the root directory to the CD.

network problem (not ECN)

2001-01-26 Thread Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer
Hi everybody! I've seen that the discussion with the ECN thing is quiet interesting and I'm experiencing something strange when I try to ftp to ftp.kernel.org. That's what I get: NcFTP 3.0.1 (March 27, 2000) by Mike Gleason ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). ncftp open ftp.kernel.org Connecting to

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Henning P. Schmiedehausen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tony Hoyle) writes: These ISPs will *not* change simply because 1% of Linux users complain at them. They have been contacted about this and they know of the problem. I doubt they care. Trust me, they care. Every Admin cares. They have, however, to convice their superiors

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Henning P. Schmiedehausen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Ricker) writes: If ECN is so wonderful, why doesn't anybody actually WANT to use it anyway? Lots of people do. Lots of other people (such as, in this case, hotmail) will never upgrade their software until the groundswell of complaints is more expensive than their

Re: inode-i_dirty_buffers redundant ?

2001-01-26 Thread Daniel Phillips
"Stephen C. Tweedie" wrote: Hi, On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 09:05:54PM +0100, Daniel Phillips wrote: "Stephen C. Tweedie" wrote: We also maintain the per-page buffer lists as caches of the virtual-to-physical mapping to avoid redundant bmap()ping. Could you clarify that one,

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Matti Aarnio
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 06:37:12PM +, Henning P. Schmiedehausen wrote: ... Cisco: If I buy a _new_ PIIX oder LDIR today, do I get an ECN capable IOS or not? If not, will my CCNA know about this and upgrade my Box before deploying? That cisco box is called PIX -- PIIX sounds like some

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Daniel Chemko
Microsoft are bad for dropping ICMP because of security.. .I mean try pinging microsoft.com... James Sutherland wrote: On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote: On 2001-01-26T16:04:03, "Randal, Phil" [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: We may be right, "they" may be wrong, but in the

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Chris Meadors
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Daniel Chemko wrote: Microsoft are bad for dropping ICMP because of security.. .I mean try pinging microsoft.com... It's down, ha ha, Microsoft is down! I'm joking of course. But you don't know how many times my techs have told me that. It's either that, or something

Re: Patches

2001-01-26 Thread Marc Mutz
Thunder from the hill wrote: Chris Wedgwood wrote: Kmail works fine. Hmmm. Would be great, but could you get working beyond some proxy? snip Um, mail proxy? Is there such a beast? I always thought that that was called 'mail server'. Where do you find configuration tabs for that in

Re: 2.4.1-pre8 losing pages

2001-01-26 Thread Peter Horton
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 09:24:12AM +, Peter Horton wrote: On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 03:20:33AM +0100, Xuan Baldauf wrote: Peter Horton wrote: I'm experiencing repeatable corruption whilst writing large volumes of data to disk. Kernel version is 2.4.1-pre8, on an 850MHz AMD Athlon

Re: Renaming lost+found

2001-01-26 Thread patrick . mourlhon
An other maybe too obvious way, could be to : alias ls='ls | grep -v "lost+found"' if you are really annoyed by this tiny thing, which is IMHO, really the least thing i could be annoyed of... This took part on Unix file system design, from the old days, as mentioned earlier by others. Also

Re: 2.4.1-pre8 losing pages

2001-01-26 Thread Russell King
Peter Horton writes: The corruption is dependent on having a swapped on swap partition. If I "swapoff" the corruption goes away, but it comes back when I "swapon" again. I feel this a kernel bug, but as I'm the only person out here who's seeing it I'm at a loss ... What compiler are you

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Alan Shutko
"Adam J. Richter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am surprised that anyone is seriously considering denying service to sites that do not implement an _experimental_ facility and have firewalls that try to play things safe by dropping packets which have 1's in bit positions that in the RFC

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Jeremy M. Dolan
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001 15:29:51 +, James Sutherland wrote: Except you can't retry without ECN, because DaveM wants to do a Microsoft and force ECN on everyone, whether they like it or not. Who's forcing? You have to *SPECIFICALLY* enable it in the config, ignoring the notice in the help text

Re: Renaming lost+found

2001-01-26 Thread Rodrigo Barbosa (aka morcego)
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 01:19:49PM -0500, James Lewis Nance wrote: On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 08:49:31AM -0500, Richard B. Johnson wrote: On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Rob Kaper wrote: Is there a way to rename lost+found ?? It bothers me to see it in ls all the Get used to it. This is part of the

Re: Renaming lost+found

2001-01-26 Thread patrick . mourlhon
alias ls="ls -I "lost+found"' On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Mike Harrold wrote: An other maybe too obvious way, could be to : alias ls='ls | grep -v "lost+found"' This turns multiple column output into one single column. Regards, /Mike - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line

[RFC] [PATCH] PAT Implementation

2001-01-26 Thread Jeff Hartmann
I've gotten my PAT code working on my PIII boxen here. It seems to be reasonable stable for me. I'd appreciate it if the individuals interested in per page write combining would take a look at it. I've only included initialization code for the AMD and Intel processors. This patch replaces

Oops accessing file on 2048 bytes/sector vfat MO in 2.4.0

2001-01-26 Thread Stefan Meyknecht
Hi all, I receive a Kernel oops while copying a file from MO-drive (vfat) with 2048 bytes sector size. There is no problen with ext2 formatted MOs. I think it happens because the function pointer cfv_file_read of the struct cvf_format is initialized with null. This oops is 100% reproducable

patch for 2.4.0 disable printk

2001-01-26 Thread Stefani Seibold
Hi Linus, Hi Alan, Hi everybody, this kernel patch allows to disable all printk messages, by overloading the printk function with a dummy printk macro. This patch is usefull for embedded systems, where the hardware never changes and normaly no textconsole is attachted nor any user will see

Re: Possible Bug: drivers/sound/maestro.c

2001-01-26 Thread Barry K. Nathan
Michael B. Trausch wrote: [snip] 2.4.0 still does it - not as often, but it still does it. I'm compiling a [snip] I haven't done any sound stuff with 2.4 on my Dell Inspiron 5000e, but I have this problem (or a similar one, anyway -- sometimes the sound becomes distorted or comes only through

Re: Linux 2.2.16 through 2.2.18preX TCP hang bug triggered by rsync

2001-01-26 Thread Dave Dykstra
Replying to Alexey's message from the mailing list archive: Hello! I take my words back. Manfred is right, this requirement is not a MUST. Real problem is much worse, and it is wholly on the shame of solaris. Tcpdump shows at least two different bugs there. 2060 16:31:42.879337

Re: Possible Bug: drivers/sound/maestro.c

2001-01-26 Thread Tom Sightler
I haven't done any sound stuff with 2.4 on my Dell Inspiron 5000e, but I have this problem (or a similar one, anyway -- sometimes the sound becomes distorted or comes only through one speaker) under both Linux 2.2 and Win2K. If it was just Linux, I'd assume it was a driver problem, but the

Re: patch for 2.4.0 disable printk

2001-01-26 Thread David Weinehall
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 09:46:02PM +0100, Stefani Seibold wrote: Hi Linus, Hi Alan, Hi everybody, this kernel patch allows to disable all printk messages, by overloading the printk function with a dummy printk macro. This patch is usefull for embedded systems, where the hardware never

[uPATCH][Probably fucked up] arch/i386/kernel/io_apic.c: missing extern? (241p10)

2001-01-26 Thread Rasmus Andersen
Hi. In arch/i386/kernel we declare nr_ioapics in both io_apic.c and mpparse.c. I guess that one of them should be an 'extern' declaration? In the patch below I have guessed that it is io_apic.c that is missing it since (AFAICS) never assign to nr_ioapic in this file. But I am in way over my

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread David Ford
"Randal, Phil" wrote: James Sutherland wrote: Except you can't retry without ECN, because DaveM wants to do a Microsoft and force ECN on everyone, whether they like it or not. If ECN is so wonderful, why doesn't anybody actually WANT to use it anyway? And there's the rub. Whether

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Stuart Lynne
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], James Sutherland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote: Except you can't retry without ECN, because DaveM wants to do a Microsoft and force ECN on everyone, whether they like it or not. If ECN is so No, he just wants them to ignore

Re: Total loss with 2.4.0 (release)

2001-01-26 Thread Mike A. Harris
On 25 Jan 2001, Kjartan Maraas wrote: Whwnever you install/upgrade any OS and especially M$ ones on a multiboot machine, you should always ensure ahead of time that they will play nicely together, agree on geometry translation schemes, partitioning schemes, etc, and that any option to take

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Michael H. Warfield
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 01:52:26PM -0800, Stuart Lynne wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], James Sutherland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote: Except you can't retry without ECN, because DaveM wants to do a Microsoft and force ECN on everyone, whether

Re: Undoing chroot?

2001-01-26 Thread Paul Menage
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], you write: So how do you reverse a CHROOT? Assuming your process doesn't drop its root privileges, before you do the initial chroot() you could do: old_root = open("/", O_RDONLY); Then later do fchdir(oldroot); chroot("."); But the cleaner and more portable

Re: Renaming lost+found

2001-01-26 Thread NDias
On 01/26/01 01:19 PM James Lewis Nance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW IBM's JFS file system does not have a lost+found directory. I dont remember if reiserfs does or not. Jim Actually it does. From one of my rs/6000's sitting here, with a pretty much default AIX install: # uname -a AIX

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