Re: Running X programs from bash w/ framebuffer

2005-03-09 Thread Marcus Furlong
Jeremy Abbott wrote: > This may seem really newbieish, but I have been running Gentoo for quite > some time now. > > Is it possible to forego X altogether, and run things like firefox, > thunderbird, etc through the framebuffer from a bashprompt, rather than > starting X and going from there. Th

Re: Running X programs from bash w/ framebuffer

2005-01-12 Thread Michael Scottaline
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:04:51 +0800 Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insightfully noted: P>There is athene desktop which does not use X. It's very fast. P>http://www.rocklyte.com/athene P> P>To configure blackbox in ~/.blackbox/menu is a child play and takes just P> P>minutes and can be done a little at a

Re: Running X programs from bash w/ framebuffer

2005-01-12 Thread Ray Olszewski
At 10:04 AM 1/13/2005 +0800, Peter wrote: There is athene desktop which does not use X. It's very fast. http://www.rocklyte.com/athene To configure blackbox in ~/.blackbox/menu is a child play and takes just minutes and can be done a little at a time. Thanks, Peter. We seem to be turning up a lot

Re: Running X programs from bash w/ framebuffer

2005-01-12 Thread Peter
There is athene desktop which does not use X. It's very fast. http://www.rocklyte.com/athene To configure blackbox in ~/.blackbox/menu is a child play and takes just minutes and can be done a little at a time. If I have a need for gnome or kde which do have some excellent programs which I forge

Re: Running X programs from bash w/ framebuffer

2005-01-12 Thread James Miller
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005, Ray Olszewski wrote: > If you are looking for something *extremely* lightweight, you probably want > to look at alternatives to X written for the embedded-systems world (PDAs > and the like)... projects like microwindows and matchbox. These > super-lightweight apps tend not to

Re: Running X programs from bash w/ framebuffer

2005-01-12 Thread Ray Olszewski
At 11:57 PM 1/11/2005 +, Jeremy Abbott wrote: [...] I do have to ask you why using X is good advice (not to say your wrong), my understanding, is that X is cobbled together adding code ontop of code, to the point where it is barely readable. Well ... your concern about not having enough time

Re: Running X programs from bash w/ framebuffer

2005-01-12 Thread Ulrich Fürst
Jeremy Abbott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I will try this, but am curious what the purpose of the -- :0 and the > -- :1 are. Is this in the man pages for X? Could this possibly be the "--" stands for "end of the options and the :0 or :1 is the (virtual) display to start on. > for running mor

Re: Running X programs from bash w/ framebuffer

2005-01-12 Thread Michael Scottaline
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 23:19:42 -0600 Eric Bambach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insightfully noted: EB>Hi, EB> I would say no. The X server isnt all too bloated if you use a EB> lightweight EB>window manager . Firefox, Openoffice, Xmms all use toolkits that need a EB> EB>backend X server to talk to. What giv

Re: Running X programs from bash w/ framebuffer

2005-01-12 Thread Jeremy Abbott
Ulrich Fürst wrote: Jeremy Abbott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This may seem really newbieish, but I have been running Gentoo for quite some time now. Is it possible to forego X altogether, and run things like firefox, thunderbird, etc through the framebuffer from a bashprompt, rather than sta

Re: Running X programs from bash w/ framebuffer

2005-01-11 Thread Jeremy Abbott
mpg123, a command-line mp3 player, can be run given a list of files to play. That's the closest I can think of to a playlist (what I assume you mean by a "que") capability in a CLI player. I didn't check, but the similar program mpg321 probably has the same capability. Thanks, I will check i

Re: Running X programs from bash w/ framebuffer

2005-01-11 Thread Ulrich Fürst
Jeremy Abbott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This may seem really newbieish, but I have been running Gentoo for > quite some time now. > > Is it possible to forego X altogether, and run things like firefox, > thunderbird, etc through the framebuffer from a bashprompt, rather > than starting X and

Re: Running X programs from bash w/ framebuffer

2005-01-11 Thread Ray Olszewski
At 09:28 PM 1/11/2005 +, Jeremy Abbott wrote: What about a possible shell equivalent of XMMS, or at least an mp3 player with a que, mpg123, a command-line mp3 player, can be run given a list of files to play. That's the closest I can think of to a playlist (what I assume you mean by a "que")

Re: Running X programs from bash w/ framebuffer

2005-01-11 Thread Eric Bambach
On Tuesday 11 January 2005 03:28 pm, you wrote: > What about a possible shell equivalent of XMMS, or at least an mp3 > player with a que, I already know I can run elm as opposed to > Thunderbird? Also, is there a better (i.e. graphical) web-broweser that > runs from the command line? The only bro

Re: Running X programs from bash w/ framebuffer

2005-01-11 Thread Jeremy Abbott
What about a possible shell equivalent of XMMS, or at least an mp3 player with a que, I already know I can run elm as opposed to Thunderbird? Also, is there a better (i.e. graphical) web-broweser that runs from the command line? The only browsers I know of are links and lynx. Eric Bambach wro

Re: Running X programs from bash w/ framebuffer

2005-01-11 Thread Eric Bambach
Hi, I would say no. The X server isnt all too bloated if you use a lightweight window manager . Firefox, Openoffice, Xmms all use toolkits that need a backend X server to talk to. What gives you the impressions that X is that bloated? I would say just bite the bullet and search out a simple win

Running X programs from bash w/ framebuffer

2005-01-11 Thread Jeremy Abbott
This may seem really newbieish, but I have been running Gentoo for quite some time now. Is it possible to forego X altogether, and run things like firefox, thunderbird, etc through the framebuffer from a bashprompt, rather than starting X and going from there. The reason I ask, is I hate the