Re: [IFWP] A Magna Carta for the Knowledge Age

1999-07-12 Thread Michael Sondow
Jay Fenello a écrit: > > Who is the ICANN Chairman, and what > has she done with Esther Dyson ;-) Oh, no!...It couldn't be...Do you think?...They're comingThey're here!...THE BODY SNATCHERS!!!

Re: [IFWP] Re Robert Connelly and CORE

1999-07-12 Thread William X. Walsh
Very well thought out and worded letter Michael. Hopefully it won't go unnoticed. On Tue, 13 Jul 1999 01:17:42 -0400, Michael Sondow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Dear Senator Reid, > >Mr. Robert Connelly, a member of CORE, wrote to you recently >claiming that ICANN, the organization poised to t

[IFWP] Re Robert Connelly and CORE

1999-07-12 Thread Michael Sondow
Dear Senator Reid, Mr. Robert Connelly, a member of CORE, wrote to you recently claiming that ICANN, the organization poised to take over control of the Internet infrastructure, is a benign and community consensus-founded entity whose only opposition comes from Network Solutions, Inc., the compan

Re: [IFWP] Re: fu**-you.com

1999-07-12 Thread William X. Walsh
Someone drew my attention to the same clause in NSI's dispute policy. Isn't ANY registrar willing to simply agree not to revoke a domain registration without cause? On Tue, 13 Jul 1999 04:58:26 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William X. Walsh) wrote: >On Mon, 12 Jul 1999 23:58:19 -0400, domainiac <[E

[IFWP] Re: fu**-you.com

1999-07-12 Thread William X. Walsh
On Mon, 12 Jul 1999 23:58:19 -0400, domainiac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>Was it you or somebody else who put together a web page that does whois >>queries to the proper registrar? > >>If so, or whoever it was, does it work with whois.corenic.net ok? I'm >having >>some wierd problem with it that

Re: [IFWP] RE: (INTA) NSI WHOIS limits

1999-07-12 Thread Bill Lovell
At 05:01 PM 7/12/99 -0400, Martin B. Schwimmer wrote: >Under current United States law, it is highly doubtful that collection by >registrars of this factual information gives rise to any enforceable >intellectual property rights. Under Feist Publications, Inc. v. Rural >Telephone Service Co., 499

[IFWP] Thank you, Jonathan

1999-07-12 Thread Eric Weisberg
  Jon, I greatly appreciate your active and gentlemanly participation in this and other lists.  As always, it is difficult to discuss significant issues without our various differences becoming (or appearing) personal rather than substantive.  You have cleved to the higher ground.   And, while so

[IFWP] ICANN in the news:

1999-07-12 Thread Richard J. Sexton
As the registry industry matures, ICANN, as stewards of the US Government controlled or "legacy" root zone is, I'm told, making an effort to increase outreach. Will ICANN be using the usenet newsgroups to do this ? >Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PR

Re: [IFWP] istf

1999-07-12 Thread Jeff Williams
Richard and all, How sweet! As though MCI was widely considered a "Socially Responsible" company! Sheeesh! Give me a break Duh-on Heath! Richard J. Sexton wrote: > @@@ http://www.isoc.org/isoc/mission/ > > "One final initiative was covered separately because of its importance to > the futu

[IFWP] BOUNCE list@ifwp.org: Non-member submission from ["Ken Stubbs" ]

1999-07-12 Thread Richard J. Sexton
>Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: BOUNCE [EMAIL PROTECTED]:Non-member submission from ["Ken Stubbs" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] >Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 17:55:35 -0400 (EDT) > >>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon

[IFWP] geneva.ifwp.org no longer working

1999-07-12 Thread Ben Edelman
It seems that the site is no longer accessible, so the Berkman Center has posted on the portion of the content previously hosted on that server that was created by Berkman staff. If anyone has other files from th

[IFWP] RE: (INTA) NSI WHOIS limits

1999-07-12 Thread Martin B. Schwimmer
Further to recent discussions on these lists regarding ownership of data contained in the whois database of domain names, reprinted below is ICANN's comments on this issue made in response to questions asked by Rep. Bliley (R- VA), Chairman of the US House Commerce Committee. All of ICANN's respo

Re: [IFWP] DNSO Names Council Teleconference Webcast

1999-07-12 Thread Ben Edelman
Mark C. Langston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (re the problem of accessing the RealServer from behind a firewall) > While I may be the only > one complaining at this point, I find it hard to imagine that this > will always be the case, and I would think that making things as easy > to access as pos

[IFWP] IP Constituency's "Transfer Protocol" Recomendation was:Re: Message for Ted Shapio

1999-07-12 Thread Jeff Williams
Russ and all, Your example Russ is a good case in point that is tragically not provided for in this "Transfer Protocol" Recommendation adequately. It should also be noted that AOL, is one of the ICANN's "Test Bed" Registrars as well... Given that, it is not too difficult to extrapolate that

[IFWP] Re: [ga] General comments on the agenda - The pNC inadaquate??

1999-07-12 Thread Jeff Williams
Michael and all, I and the [INEGroup] agree with Professor Fromkin's comments/remarks here entirely and we have stated so publicly to this list on two occasions over two weeks ago, as well as individually to all of the members of the pNC. We [INEGroup] received no response from the pNC in this

Re: [IFWP] DNSO Names Council Teleconference Webcast

1999-07-12 Thread Mark C. Langston
On 12 July 1999, "Ben Edelman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Mark C. Langston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> If there is/was a mechanism for active participation/input to this >> teleconference, I'm unaware of it. > >I believe there was no remote participation today because there NC was not >meet

Re: [IFWP] DNSO Names Council Teleconference Webcast

1999-07-12 Thread Jeff Williams
Mark and all, I compleatly agree with Marks statement here... Others should chime in on this! Mark C. Langston wrote: > Since nobody but NC members can participate in the Names Council > teleconf., I'll state this here, since it's currently being debated: > > If they expect any feeling of leg

Re: [IFWP] DNSO Names Council Teleconference Webcast

1999-07-12 Thread Ben Edelman
Mark C. Langston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If there is/was a mechanism for active participation/input to this > teleconference, I'm unaware of it. I believe there was no remote participation today because there NC was not meeting in a single room, so the traditional means of remote participat

[IFWP] IP constituency "Transfer Protocol" recomendation

1999-07-12 Thread Jeff Williams
IDNO'ers, I thought this would be of EXTREME interest to your members... You might want to review this VERY carefully... Regards, -- Jeffrey A. Williams Spokesman INEGroup (Over 95k members strong!) CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng. Information Network Eng. Group.

Re: [IDNO-DISCUSS] Re: [IFWP] RE: who tells the quill holder what

1999-07-12 Thread Jeff Williams
Joe and all, Oh thank you joe for this obviously politically motivated response to Chucks comments. It strikes me that as both somewhat disingenuous and ironic given the PR enhanced "ICANN Announcements" that have been "Shared" (Sarcasm) with us all... Joe Sims wrote: > If the reason that NS

[IFWP] Update on membership of the NCDNHC

1999-07-12 Thread Jeff Williams
All, I thought that some others that are not on the NCDNHC mailing list would find this interesting and may have some comment to it. Regards, -- Jeffrey A. Williams Spokesman INEGroup (Over 95k members strong!) CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng. Information Network

[IFWP] Re: [ga] Letter from Mike Roberts re: gTLD Constituency Group

1999-07-12 Thread Jeff Williams
Chuck and all, I don't believe that John really means that, but I do believe that ICANN does in many situations or ICANN wishes to FORCE NSI and other root operators into a contractual agreement in which there is no negotiational flexibility, which is contract to standard practice in these sort

Re: [IFWP] DNSO Names Council Teleconference Webcast

1999-07-12 Thread Mark C. Langston
On 12 July 1999, Karl Auerbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Since nobody but NC members can participate in the Names Council >> teleconf. > >Are they really being so stupid as to hold yet another closed meeting? If there is/was a mechanism for active participation/input to this teleconfer

Re: [IFWP] DNSO Names Council Teleconference Webcast

1999-07-12 Thread Richard J. Sexton
>Are they really being so stupid as to hold yet another closed meeting? Yup. They mae a couple of insinuations about NSI and Ambler and had the obligatory comments about the DNSO mailing list not working. Same old same old. I turned it off. I know what Javier and Amadau sound like... -- Richard

Re: [IFWP] DNSO Names Council Teleconference Webcast

1999-07-12 Thread Karl Auerbach
> Since nobody but NC members can participate in the Names Council > teleconf. Are they really being so stupid as to hold yet another closed meeting? Of course that would be a violation of the ICANN bylaws that require open meetings "to the maximum extent". There is *NOTHING* that they can be

[IFWP] istf

1999-07-12 Thread Richard J. Sexton
@@@ http://www.isoc.org/isoc/mission/ "One final initiative was covered separately because of its importance to the future direction of the Internet Society. This is the Internet Societal Task Force (ISTF). Dr. Vinton G. Cerf has agreed to chair the new ISTF and has invited all interested parties

[IFWP] BOUNCE list@ifwp.org: Non-member submission from ["Ken Stubbs" ]

1999-07-12 Thread Richard J. Sexton
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Re: [IFWP] DNSO Names Council Teleconference Webcast

1999-07-12 Thread Mark C. Langston
Since nobody but NC members can participate in the Names Council teleconf., I'll state this here, since it's currently being debated: If they expect any feeling of legitimacy whatsoever from the GA regarding the WGs, it would be in the pDNC's best interest if you let the WGs choose their OWN

[IFWP] DNSO Names Council Teleconference Webcast

1999-07-12 Thread Ben Edelman
Today's DNSO Names Council teleconference is now taking place, available via RealAudio at . Archives will be available immediately after the conclusion of the teleconference. Ben Edelman Berkman Center for Internet and Society Harvard Law School

Re: [IFWP] Re: [ga] Letter from Mike Roberts re: gTLD Constituency Group

1999-07-12 Thread William X. Walsh
On Sun, 11 Jul 1999 16:24:35 -0700, Bill Lovell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >At 06:59 PM 7/11/99 -0400, you wrote: >>This wasn't directed towards me but I will put my comments in anyway. >> >>You have it straight. This situation is okay because NSI's function is to >>perform a task under specific

RE: [IDNO-DISCUSS] Re: [IFWP] RE: who tells the quill holder what

1999-07-12 Thread cgomes
What is your definition of speculation? Chuck -Original Message- From: Bill Lovell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, July 11, 1999 8:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [IDNO-DISCUSS] Re: [IFWP] RE: who tells the quill holder what At 07:54 PM 7/11/99 -0400, you wrote: >Bill

RE: [IDNO-DISCUSS] Re: [IFWP] RE: who tells the quill holder what

1999-07-12 Thread Joe Sims
If the reason that NSI can only support a limited number of new competitive registrars is a resource problem, one possible solution that would help to increase competition (which I know you are on record as favoring) would be to redirect some of your resources that are currently allocated to m