The IRC server has suffered some minor difficulties in the last 24 hours --
nothing I couldn't resolve if I were at the server console in Cambridge...
but I'm not, and indeed the entire Berkman "primary technical staff" is
either here in Santiago or on vacation away from Cambridge. That said, I
The following Ministerial Media Release is available at:
http://www.dcita.gov.au/cgi-bin/trap.pl?path=4226
ACLU president insults Australia
The President of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), Nadine
Strossen,
yesterday described Australia as a "global village idiot" because it
has
William X. Walsh wrote:
Tuesday, August 24, 1999, 3:35:05 AM, Michael Sondow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The following Ministerial Media Release is available at:
http://www.dcita.gov.au/cgi-bin/trap.pl?path=4226
ACLU president insults Australia
The President of the American Civil
Michael Sondow wrote:
Yes, they don't seem to realize the respect accorded the ACLU and
that, by attempting to demean it, they are just hurting themselves.
I thought "global village idiot" was a particularly apt phrase,
didn't you?
I find it always amazing how some people that hold
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michael Sondow wrote:
Yes, they don't seem to realize the respect accorded the ACLU and
that, by attempting to demean it, they are just hurting themselves.
I thought "global village idiot" was a particularly apt phrase,
didn't you?
I find it always
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please read the messages you receive before answering them ;).
I tend to read messages carefully before replying. I also reflect
before doing so. You might want to try doing the same.
I did not say anything in favour of Australian censorship.
(hint: I am against
Hi Michael,
The more interesting issue and question is whether Twomey
will act as a global cats paw for the sponsoring minister
behind all this - who is also Twomey's mentor and sponsor.
The GAC's purpose is to make findings on the legal obligations
of ICANN - which is effectively obligated to
All,
FYI: Interesting...
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William and all,
Good point William. Sort of gives one a hint of what to expect
from the GAC, doesn't it???
William X. Walsh wrote:
Tuesday, August 24, 1999, 3:35:05 AM, Michael Sondow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The following Ministerial Media Release is available at:
Ben and all,
Shades of Singapore and Berlin all over again, eh Ben? When are you folks
going to learn that you need to do a dry run before one of these concerences??
Ben Edelman wrote:
The IRC server has suffered some minor difficulties in the last 24 hours --
nothing I couldn't resolve
Actually - here is data on Twomey's boss.
http://www.pccf.net/references/icann/GAC-Toomey-Alston.html
Regards
Jeff Mason
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Roberto and all,
Oh Roeberto? And what words did the president of the ACLU
use that were not proper english language words pray tell??
Who appointed you their or anyone's censor czar? When did you
become a judge of proper use of language?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michael,
I find
Tony and all,
Very good point or observation Tony. And one that is likely missed
by many in these discussions. Though I believe that Michael Sondow
has a good handle on it.
It might also be a consideration that the ICANN's GAC intent to use
it's
influence to promulgate their policies and
From:
THE REAL NEWS PAGE
The other side of the news from a progressive point of view.
TRNP is a portal-guide to a few good links related to media (plural) and to
stories the media under-report.
Edited by Jane Wardlow Prettyman, formerly at (the old) Esquire Magazine
To give citizens a
Nick Lordi wrote,
A new new resolution should be drafted, posted, given a reasonable
comment period, and clearly address why it is necessary.
Such a new resolution could be drafted along the lines of what
Michael Froomkin suggested in his previously posted comments [...]
ICANN needs to
For those who are interested -- the IRC server is back online and fully
operational.
I discourage using it before the GA session starts at 2:00 Eastern time --
comments made there before the meeting officially begins won't be read by
me, other Berkman staff, or the ICANN board, and neither will
Ben -
I may need to take you up on that offer of the dial-in. I'm trying to
listen to the archive of the ccTLD meeting from yesterday, and getting
the same firewall issues I usually have (not available via http).
Of course, I'll only need the dial-in for certain if the other webcasts are
Kerry and all,
It is our [INEGroup's} opinion as we have already voted upon and in
respect to the current ICANN (Initial?) Interim boards self determined
"Extension", as invalid. This decision should be made by the membership
in accordance with the terms of the White Paper. The compliance
Jay and all,
After the Singapore, I had posted several remarks and comments
with respect to where we [INEGroup] believe that the ICANN is headed.
In the "Open Letter" that James Love and Ralph Nader submitted to the
ICANN (Initial?) Interim Board on June 11th, and Esther Dysons response
made
Tony:
If NSI can use its business model to build the same value for others as
it has done for itself, why the necessary opposition to GAC? They'd do
better to cooperate when the admission policy is sorted out. However,
your point that the laisser-faire governments who by their absence
I may need to take you up on that offer of the dial-in. I'm trying to
listen to the archive of the ccTLD meeting from yesterday, and getting
the same firewall issues I usually have (not available via http).
Real can serve over http if configured
regards,
brandon
Mr. Walsh and Everyone,
I had no problem with finding them give a little time and effort.
William X. Walsh wrote:
Saturday, August 21, 1999, 8:13:14 PM, Jeff Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
William and all,
William X. Walsh wrote:
Saturday, August 21, 1999, 7:47:32 PM, Jeff
Mr. Walsh and Everyone,
How many times do you need to see the same emails, Mr. Walsh?
William X. Walsh wrote:
Saturday, August 21, 1999, 7:47:32 PM, Jeff Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
William and all,
I am afraid I don't agree with William's evaluation of the Berkman
Centers
Mr. Walsh and Everyone,
It is evident to me, and I suspect most reasonable people, that if a criticism
is levied that is a reasonable, that it would be best to address it directly
so as to correct the problem concerned.
William X. Walsh wrote:
Sunday, August 22, 1999, 3:50:48 AM, Planet
Mr. Walsh and Everyone,
Mr. Walsh, your comments are only partly relevant to Mr. Masons suggestion.
The level or amount of experience that anyone has in these sort of matters
is relevant only to a point from a realistic perspective There are indeed
several concerns that Mr. Mason has
Jeff and Everyone,
I find myself in complete agreement with Jeff's statements here...
Jeff Williams wrote:
Kent and all,
I would strongly disagree with Kent and Jonathan's tally as presented
by Jonathan in his post, http://www.dnso.org/wgroups/wg-c/Archives/msg01037.html
to which Kent refers.
Mr. Rutkowski and Everyone,
I find myself in agreement with Mr. Rutkowski.
A.M. Rutkowski wrote:
Hi Mark,
If NSI can use its business model to build the
same value for others as
it has done for itself, why the necessary opposition to GAC? They'd
do
While I agree that the NSI business model
Tuesday, August 24, 1999, 8:22:48 AM, Mark Jeftovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 24-Aug-99 Jeff Williams wrote:
Alex and all,
Robust what??? Get a grip there alex. Sheeesh! I see that your
propensity for Fantasy is fairly strong judging from this and many other
posts to this list...
Tuesday, August 24, 1999, 5:14:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michael Sondow wrote:
Yes, they don't seem to realize the respect accorded the ACLU and
that, by attempting to demean it, they are just hurting themselves.
I thought "global village idiot" was a particularly
All,
I wonder whey I find William's last statement so familier?
"What was most telling about this report was how this official twisted
what was said, and turned it for his own purpose." Could it be that
he is guilty of doing this himself? Hu???
William X. Walsh wrote:
Tuesday, August
A.M. Rutkowski wrote:
One wonders how long it will take GAC to recommend that all DNS
registrants be subject to a requirement to honor a law such
as the Aussie's have adopted as condition of registering a
domain name.
SS! The walls have ears.
Mr. Goodspeed and Everyone,
Mr. Goodspeed, I believe that the post from Jeff Williams (See below),
and my subject line of this post is self explanatory
Further correspondence on this matter shall be disregarded if publicly
posted. You, Mr. Goodspeed may still apply for membership, but
Mr. Walsh and Everyone,
Certainly if you wish, please do. I sent several messages as I recall while I
was in Singapore and to and from as well...
William X. Walsh wrote:
Tuesday, August 24, 1999, 8:22:48 AM, Mark Jeftovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 24-Aug-99 Jeff Williams wrote:
Alex
Brian and all,
Yes, as I recall, but I will check my archives later, I received several
private posts from you while you were both in route, at Singapore and
on your way to back to Europe to meet with me and some other folks...
Brian C. Hollingsworth wrote:
Mr. Walsh and Everyone,
Some of us believe that it would be useful to
begin a dialogue about funding ICANN. The
following ideas have been anonymously contributed.
A bake sale
a cooking show featuring Esther
selling tickets to their funeral
get the Franklin Mint to do a
commemorative medallion of Esther as
On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, A.M. Rutkowski wrote:
Some of us believe that it would be useful to
begin a dialogue about funding ICANN. The
following ideas have been anonymously contributed.
A bake sale
a cooking show featuring Esther
PORN. The best way to do it is with porn. Let's put on
Tony, thats about as constructive as Ken's comments last week.
Are the two of you collaborating?
"A.M. Rutkowski" wrote:
Some of us believe that it would be useful to
begin a dialogue about funding ICANN. The
following ideas have been anonymously contributed.
A bake sale
a cooking
http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,0-40897,00.html
Court OKs some domains with trademarked names
By Dan Goodin
Staff Writer, CNET News.com
August 24, 1999, 5:40 p.m. PT
Internet addresses that include trademarked names do not
necessarily constitute a violation, according to a
dont know if this has already been posted
http://www.wired.com/news/news/email/tip/politics/story/21393.html
http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,0-40897,00.html
Court OKs some domains with trademarked names
By Dan Goodin
Staff Writer, CNET News.com
August 24, 1999, 5:40 p.m. PT
The complete Opinion is posted at:
At 08:36 PM 8/24/99 -0400, you wrote:
Some of us believe that it would be useful to
begin a dialogue about funding ICANN. The
following ideas have been anonymously contributed.
A bake sale
a cooking show featuring Esther
selling tickets to their funeral
get the Franklin Mint to do a
Kerry and all,
Interesting case. Thank you for providing the reference Kerry. It
shall go in my database for these kinds of cases. The article
didn't mention a filing number. Do you happen to know it?
At any rate it seems that this would be case would be in direct conflict
with
the WIPO
All,
FYI: Well well well... I see that my idea is spreading... ;)
Can't say I didn't tell you so!
Regards,
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Spokesman INEGroup (Over 95k members strong!)
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail
Tuesday, August 24, 1999, 11:46:17 AM, Jeff Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
John and all,
John, you are not and are not likely to ever be an INEGroup member!
Can you read that clearly? If not, I can make it larger!
You, John Good speed have been personally and publicaly informed
as
Tony and all,
ROFLMAO! This is very funny, but appropriate. By the way,
I hope that COIN/MEDAL that Franklin Mint minting will be
sure that Esther has her Sup-Hose on with no knots in them... ;)
A.M. Rutkowski wrote:
Some of us believe that it would be useful to
begin a dialogue about
JeffM and all,
Good idea! I would suggest Sup-hose for Esther or Thigh High sup-Hose
though...
Planet Communications Computing Facility wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, A.M. Rutkowski wrote:
Some of us believe that it would be useful to
begin a dialogue about funding ICANN. The
Richard and all,
Richard, you are just full of ideas, arn't ya! ROFLMAO!
Good one here Richard...
Richard J. Sexton wrote:
Impose a $1 per newsgroup name to coordinate the
Usenet technical functions.
Impose a $1 per mailing list to coordinate
mailing list technical parameters.
William and all,
William X. Walsh wrote:
Tuesday, August 24, 1999, 11:46:17 AM, Jeff Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
John and all,
John, you are not and are not likely to ever be an INEGroup member!
Can you read that clearly? If not, I can make it larger!
You, John Good speed
FYI, our firewall problems were solved by some last-minute reconfiguration I
managed to complete this afternoon. All known firewall users were able to
connect just fine this afternoon to the RealServer after these configuration
changes were completed, and if anyone else is having firewall
William X. Walsh wrote:
First of all, Roberto, before you make such a judgement, based on the
extremely bias reporting of what was said by a government official who
has been actively involved in promoting the censorship rules, you
should find out exactly what he said.
I must admit you're
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