Re: [IFWP] RE: Coincidence?

1999-08-05 Thread Nick Patience
At 06:16 PM 8/4/99 -0400, you wrote: At 06:04 PM 8/4/99 , Nick Patience wrote: No!! Shocker! The press - even the tech trade press didn't understand about vulnerabilities in their bind! Come on, most of the trade press move around beats with reasonable regularity and cannot be expected to have

Re: [IFWP] RE: Coincidence?

1999-08-05 Thread Jay Fenello
At 09:24 AM 8/5/99 , Nick Patience wrote: Thank you - and none taken that way Jay, I assure you. I see your point, but don't necessarily agree. OK, editors etc are the conduits through which the ICANN story must flow, and cortrect me if I'm wrong, you're saying they're not letting the story get

Re: [IFWP] RE: Coincidence?

1999-08-05 Thread Nick Patience
At 11:07 AM 8/5/99 -0400, you wrote: At 09:24 AM 8/5/99 , Nick Patience wrote: Thank you - and none taken that way Jay, I assure you. I see your point, but don't necessarily agree. OK, editors etc are the conduits through which the ICANN story must flow, and cortrect me if I'm wrong, you're

Re: [IFWP] RE: Coincidence?

1999-08-05 Thread Richard J. Sexton
Thank you - and none taken that way Jay, I assure you. I see your point, but don't necessarily agree. OK, editors etc are the conduits through which the ICANN story must flow, and cortrect me if I'm wrong, you're saying they're not letting the story get out because they're part of a conspiracy to

Re: [IFWP] RE: Coincidence?

1999-08-05 Thread Gordon Cook
yeah, I do remember when you called memust have been at least 2 years ago you sounded dreadfully reasonable It took other people at least 4 to 6 weeks to convince me that you were part crazy alternic/edns crowd and therefore not taken seriously This stuff is far to much off

Re: [IFWP] RE: Coincidence?

1999-08-04 Thread Ellen Rony
At 10:28 PM 7/28/99 , Ellen Rony wrote: FWIW, I don't concur with Jay's theories about a biased press. We have not bias but confusion. This evolution of the DNS is complicated, convoluted, and contentious, so it isn't easy to report on the activities of ICANN and the Department of Commerce in

Re: [IFWP] RE: Coincidence?

1999-08-04 Thread Planet Communications Computing Facility
On Wed, 4 Aug 1999, Ellen Rony wrote: My theory about the coverage of the USG/ICANN story is: this shift of Internet administration to the private sector has so many twists and turns that it isn't easily given to soundbytes. Mention ICANN and a reporter must then also describe the whole

Re: [IFWP] RE: Coincidence?

1999-08-04 Thread Nick Patience
At 05:10 PM 8/4/99 -0400, you wrote: On Wed, 4 Aug 1999, Ellen Rony wrote: My theory about the coverage of the USG/ICANN story is: this shift of Internet administration to the private sector has so many twists and turns that it isn't easily given to soundbytes. Mention ICANN and a reporter

Re: [IFWP] RE: Coincidence?

1999-08-04 Thread Jay Fenello
Hi Ellen, I too applaud your efforts, several years strong. In actuality, none of us have a monopoly on truth, and it is only through an open exploration of these issues, that a collective truth may emerge. Please continue to fight your battles, just as I will continue to fight mine :-)

Re: [IFWP] RE: Coincidence?

1999-08-04 Thread Jay Fenello
At 05:34 PM 8/4/99 , Nick Patience wrote: At 05:10 PM 8/4/99 -0400, you wrote: On Wed, 4 Aug 1999, Ellen Rony wrote: My theory about the coverage of the USG/ICANN story is: this shift of Internet administration to the private sector has so many twists and turns that it isn't easily given to

Re: [IFWP] RE: Coincidence?

1999-08-04 Thread Nick Patience
At 05:54 PM 8/4/99 -0400, you wrote: At 05:34 PM 8/4/99 , Nick Patience wrote: At 05:10 PM 8/4/99 -0400, you wrote: On Wed, 4 Aug 1999, Ellen Rony wrote: My theory about the coverage of the USG/ICANN story is: this shift of Internet administration to the private sector has so many twists and

Re: [IFWP] RE: Coincidence?

1999-08-04 Thread Jay Fenello
At 06:04 PM 8/4/99 , Nick Patience wrote: No!! Shocker! The press - even the tech trade press didn't understand about vulnerabilities in their bind! Come on, most of the trade press move around beats with reasonable regularity and cannot be expected to have the same level of understanding on

Re: [IFWP] RE: Coincidence?

1999-08-04 Thread Ronda Hauben
Ellen Rony wrote: Nick Patience wrote: Ellen hit the problem on the head when she said: "Mention ICANN and a reporter must then also describe the whole transfer of functions from NSF to NTIA, from IANA to ICANN. Most readers' eyes will glaze over before you can say IFWP." Sorry Nick, I

Re: [IFWP] RE: Coincidence?

1999-08-04 Thread Gene Marsh
At 10:27 PM 8/4/99 -0400, you wrote: There are powerful forces keeping it all quiet and the problem isn't that the story is complicated. Agreed. There are far more complicated storie in the paper every day. The problem is that what is being grabbed is big time loot and those doing the

Re: [IFWP] RE: Coincidence?

1999-07-29 Thread Jay Fenello
At 10:28 PM 7/28/99 , Ellen Rony wrote: FWIW, I don't concur with Jay's theories about a biased press. We have not bias but confusion. This evolution of the DNS is complicated, convoluted, and contentious, so it isn't easy to report on the activities of ICANN and the Department of Commerce in

[IFWP] RE: Coincidence?

1999-07-28 Thread Pete Farmer
For the record, of the 10 feedback comments to Mr. Cooper's op/ed piece, 6 are "on Jay's side," 2 are pro-Dyson, and 2 offer no opinion. Of the 6 "on Jay's side," 4 are formatted normally. I Reality check, Jay. Possibly you and Ellen pasted your replies, instead of typing them directly?

Re: [IFWP] RE: Coincidence?

1999-07-28 Thread Ellen Rony
Pete Farmer wrote: For the record, of the 10 feedback comments to Mr. Cooper's op/ed piece, 6 are "on Jay's side," 2 are pro-Dyson, and 2 offer no opinion. Of the 6 "on Jay's side," 4 are formatted normally. Reality check, Jay. Possibly you and Ellen pasted your replies, instead of typing them