Re: 5.8.0

2002-11-28 Thread Leon Brocard
Mark Fowler sent the following bits through the ether: > P.S. 5.6.0? Shall I get you some rocks to bash together too? That was an interesting thread. Now, it's really easy to have multiple version of Perl running on the same box (let's ignore mod_perl for now ;-) so why hasn't everyone done so?

RE: re-animating regexes

2002-11-28 Thread Ivor Williams
On Wednesday, November 27, 2002 6:50 PM, Mark [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > I checked if similar would happen with Data::Dumper. From a quick test, > looks like this may allow you to do what you want, if appropriate bits > added to the freeze/thaw subs. > > [mmorgan]$ perl -MData::Dumper -le

Re: 5.8.0

2002-11-28 Thread Jonathan Peterson
That was an interesting thread. Now, it's really easy to have multiple version of Perl running on the same box (let's ignore mod_perl for now ;-) so why hasn't everyone done so? I know I'm very lazy, but what's your excuse? You make that sound like a good thing... It's easy to have multiple ve

Re: 5.8.0

2002-11-28 Thread Mark Fowler
On Thu, 28 Nov 2002, Leon Brocard wrote: > Now, it's really easy to have multiple version of Perl running on the > same box (let's ignore mod_perl for now ;-) so why hasn't everyone done > so? What do you mean, it's really easy to have multiple versions of perl? Sure I can install as many copies

Re: 5.8.0

2002-11-28 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 11:16:06AM +, Mark Fowler wrote: > Richard has 'mirth' plugged into our house network that has pretty much > every version of perl installed on it (actually, it doesn't have any > version of 2, 3 or 4...but there you go.) This is useful for regression > testing, but *b

Re: 5.8.0

2002-11-28 Thread Peter Haworth
On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 08:19:12 +, Leon Brocard wrote: > Now, it's really easy to have multiple version of Perl running on the same > box (let's ignore mod_perl for now ;-) so why hasn't everyone done so? I > know I'm very lazy, but what's your excuse? Laziness and forgetfulness. And being unable

Re: REVIEW: Extending and Embedding Perl

2002-11-28 Thread Richard Clamp
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 10:36:04PM +, Mark Fowler wrote: [reference counting] > Could you, or anyone else, give me a pointer to where this kind of thing > is documented? L, plus, if you're writing some XS and think that you're leaking something, you can always try Devel::LeakTrace (if the som

Re: 5.8.0

2002-11-28 Thread David Cantrell
On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 08:19:12AM +, Leon Brocard wrote: > Mark Fowler sent the following bits through the ether: > > P.S. 5.6.0? Shall I get you some rocks to bash together too? > That was an interesting thread. Now, it's really easy to have multiple > version of Perl running on the same box

Re: REVIEW: Extending and Embedding Perl

2002-11-28 Thread Graham Barr
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 02:35:20PM +, Nicholas Clark wrote: > Review of "Extending and Embedding Perl" > > Author: Tim Jenness and Simon Cozens > ISBN: 1-930110-82-0 > Publisher: Manning > Reviewed by: Nicholas Clark > > > This is a long review. I could have said "the book is mis

Re: REVIEW: Extending and Embedding Perl

2002-11-28 Thread Mark Fowler
On Thu, 28 Nov 2002, Graham Barr wrote: > Heck I even gave a quote for the cover as I thought it was a very > promising book. Having read this please tell me its not there as I have > never received my free copy. "Perl's internals and XS can be like black magic. [This] is the 'spell book' you nee

vim

2002-11-28 Thread Jonathan Peterson
I'm playing with vim. Either it's standard perl syntax file doesn't support folding, or I can't get folding to work for some reason (setting fold method to syntax..). Vague comments about remedying either situation appreciated. J -- Jonathan Peterson Technical Manager, Unified Ltd, +44 (0)20

Re: REVIEW: Extending and Embedding Perl

2002-11-28 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 02:35:20PM +, Nicholas Clark wrote: > Review of "Extending and Embedding Perl" > > [snippety-snip] I have posted this on the web site, at: http://london.pm.org/reviews/extending-and-embedding-perl.html -- David Cantrell | Benevolent Dictator | http://www.cantrell.o

Re: REVIEW: Extending and Embedding Perl

2002-11-28 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 11:45:13AM +, Richard Clamp wrote: > On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 10:36:04PM +, Mark Fowler wrote: > [reference counting] > > Could you, or anyone else, give me a pointer to where this kind of thing > > is documented? > > L, plus, if you're writing > some XS and think t

Re: REVIEW: Extending and Embedding Perl

2002-11-28 Thread S. Joel Bernstein
At 28/11/2002 15:15 [], Mark Fowler wrote: On Thu, 28 Nov 2002, Graham Barr wrote: > Heck I even gave a quote for the cover as I thought it was a very > promising book. Having read this please tell me its not there as I have > never received my free copy. "Perl's internals and XS can be like bla

Re: REVIEW: Extending and Embedding Perl

2002-11-28 Thread Shevek
On Thu, 28 Nov 2002, Nicholas Clark wrote: > On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 11:45:13AM +, Richard Clamp wrote: > > [someone check this, please:] > 3: so this means if you're returning a reference to an array or hash from >your XS code, you only need to mark the top level reference as mortal; whe

Re: REVIEW: Extending and Embedding Perl

2002-11-28 Thread Richard Clamp
On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 04:30:41PM +, Shevek wrote: > On Thu, 28 Nov 2002, Nicholas Clark wrote: > > > On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 11:45:13AM +, Richard Clamp wrote: > > > > [someone check this, please:] > > 3: so this means if you're returning a reference to an array or hash from > >your

Re: REVIEW: Extending and Embedding Perl

2002-11-28 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 03:56:50PM +, S. Joel Bernstein wrote: > At 28/11/2002 15:15 [], Mark Fowler wrote: > >Back of book. Also quotes from "Charles Bailey, Alasdair Allan, Abhijit > ^^^ > >Menon-Sen and Norman Gray. > ^^

Re: vim

2002-11-28 Thread Michael Lamertz
On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 03:27:21PM +, Jonathan Peterson wrote: > I'm playing with vim. Either it's standard perl syntax file doesn't > support folding, or I can't get folding to work for some reason (setting > fold method to syntax..). > > Vague comments about remedying either situation appr

Re: vim

2002-11-28 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 05:36:19PM +0100, Michael Lamertz wrote: > On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 03:27:21PM +, Jonathan Peterson wrote: > > I'm playing with vim. Either it's standard perl syntax file doesn't > > support folding, or I can't get folding to work for some reason (setting > > fold metho

Re: vim

2002-11-28 Thread Dirk Koopman
On Thu, 2002-11-28 at 17:26, Paul Johnson wrote: > It's funny (or maybe it's not) but I thought I would make a lot of use > of folding, and was really looking forward to it. Now it's there, the > only time I use it is in vimdiff, which has removed the only reason I > ever looked longingly at emacs

Hello London Perl-Mongers

2002-11-28 Thread Philip Pereira
Dear all,   Just wanted to say an offical "Hello" to everyone.   I'm trying to teach myself Perl - and think it's great! I've only been doing it for about 3 months, but it's already proving VERY useful at work - where I've volunteered to convert data from our Back Offfice Systems into Excel

Re: vim

2002-11-28 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 06:48:01PM +, Dirk Koopman wrote: > Which brings to something that I have always been curious about, why > isn't there an editor written in perl? I seem to recall someone starting a vi clone in Perl. Was it part of ppt? I don't know about emacs though. Aren't there

Re: vim

2002-11-28 Thread Chris Ball
>> On Fri, 29 Nov 2002 00:51:18, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I don't know about emacs though. There was a comp.emacs.xemacs thread about embedding Perl in XEmacs. It's the one during which Jamie Zawinski famously said: "Some people, when confronted with a problem, think ``I kn