On Saturday 11 January 2003 13:08, Nicholas Clark wrote:
If you have a short answer to the above question, consider this analogy:
If I have a physical book, I could unbind it, and allow different
programmers to borrow only the pages they needed. What stops me unbinding
my electronic file into
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Lusercop wrote:
Yes, but a) Lawrence Lessig (Larry Lessig - we love Larrys) is a lawyer in
America rather than in the UK, and b) you're forgetting about the UK test
cases that have already happened.
No, I'm not forgetting about anything. I'm paraphrasing what Larry said.
My point, or rather
On 13/01/2003 at 11:05 +, Andy Wardley wrote:
In short, the Disney corporation is making sure that no-one ever does
to them what Walt Disney did to others. The term of copyright law has
been extended 11 times in the last 40 years, coincidentally around the
time that the copyright on the
Nigel Hamilton wrote:
Umm ... Copyright only grants 'the right to copy' to the author.
True. But that wasn't how it used to be. More importantly, it is now
a totally absurd situation because works are copied every time you open
a web page.
Copyright should restrict publishing, not
Nicholas Clark wrote:
Under traditional law, what's to stop you taking your legally owned copy of
the file, and placing it on a networked file system such as NFS. There is
still only one copy of the file (on your server) yet now you can let all
the programmers read from the one copy
Hi Andy,
I think Lawrence Lessig and Richard Stallman should think a little
more about their audience.
Yes ... we all read books and listen to music ... but a great
majority of us are also authors - we write web pages, emails, manuals,
specs, books, talks and programs
On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 11:32:38AM -0600, Nigel Hamilton wrote:
Soon enough the 'rage against the machine' rhetoric is going to
sound tired ... both Lessig and Stallman, can choose to send a more
positive message (albeit a bit boring) ... the fact is no corporation ever
had an 'idea'
Nigel Hamilton wrote:
I think Lawrence Lessig and Richard Stallman should think a little
more about their audience.
I think Lessig does very well at targetting his audience.
Yes ... we all read books and listen to music ... but a great
majority of us are also authors - we
I think Lawrence Lessig and Richard Stallman should think a little
more about their audience.
Yes ... we all read books and listen to music ... but a great
majority of us are also authors - we write web pages, emails, manuals,
specs, books, talks and programs (esp).
And yet
On 13/01/2003 at 12:01 -0600, Nigel Hamilton wrote:
[...] the power is in the author's hands to licence it whatever way they
want!
What if your rights as an author are drowned out by your employer's
contract over you? Who was the person at Disney who drew Ariel, the
Little Mermaid, for the
HI Paul,
I could read the Lessig article 100 times ... it doesn't change
the facts:
* copyright law protects individual authors - first and foremost -
by protecting their intellectual output
* copyright is instant, automatic, free, flexible (e.g., GPL) and
close to
Nigel Hamilton wrote:
If people aren't too bored already by this, I'd like to give a
couple of tech talks on intellectual property in the coming months ...
That would be great. One scheduled for March, and one for May[1]. This
is probably one of those things that'll be best as a presentation
On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, Mark Fowler wrote:
That would be great. One scheduled for March, and one for May[1]. This
is probably one of those things that'll be best as a presentation followed
by a lot of questions in the pub later.
[1] Though I'm not sure about all this yet, Lot's of conferences
On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 12:01:12PM -0600, Nigel Hamilton wrote:
Where do you think the rights come from in the first place?
Society (governments) decided to grant them to whomever.
The GPL, CCL, Berkley licence (pick your licence) all rely on one
thing: Copyright.
And the power is in
Nigel Hamilton wrote:
I could read the Lessig article 100 times ... it doesn't change
the facts:
No disprespect, but Lessig is a lawyer and seems to understand the
issues relating to copyright law very well indeed.
If you think he's missed the facts then I suggest you take it up with
him.
On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, Andy Wardley wrote:
Nicholas Clark wrote:
Under traditional law, what's to stop you taking your legally owned copy of
the file, and placing it on a networked file system such as NFS. There is
still only one copy of the file (on your server) yet now you can let all
On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, Nigel Hamilton wrote:
HI Paul,
I could read the Lessig article 100 times ... it doesn't change
the facts:
* copyright law protects individual authors - first and foremost -
by protecting their intellectual output
* copyright is instant,
Nigel Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
HI Paul,
I could read the Lessig article 100 times ... it doesn't change
the facts:
* copyright law protects individual authors - first and foremost -
by protecting their intellectual output
* copyright is instant,
HI Piers,
It's what authors do with these rights that's the 'main game' ...
corporations don't have ideas - people do.
You are aware of how close the US Recording Industry got to having
music written while under contract to a record company reclassified as
'work for hire', ie
On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 11:13:05AM +, Paul Mison ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On 13/01/2003 at 11:05 +, Andy Wardley wrote:
In short, the Disney corporation is making sure that no-one ever does
to them what Walt Disney did to others. The term of copyright law has
been extended 11
On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 02:26:03PM +, Mark Fowler wrote:
Though I'm not sure about all this yet, Lot's of conferences we may
need to work around this year. Eight of them. Eight!
German Perl Workshop 5th-17th March
YAPC::Israel 12th May
YAPC::Canada 15th-16th May
German Perl Workshop 5th-17th March
That'll be 5th-7th March.
Anyone going? (Apart from Nicholas Clark of course.)
Yup, I'm giving a talk on heuristic detection of email-borne viruses
with Perl...
+Pete
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