On Saturday 11 January 2003 13:08, Nicholas Clark wrote:
> If you have a short answer to the above question, consider this analogy:
> If I have a physical book, I could unbind it, and allow different
> programmers to borrow only the pages they needed. What stops me unbinding
> my electronic file i
Hi,
I'm having an XML nightmare! First .NET SOAP servers and now this!
I am trying to generate an XML configuration file to provide so inforamtion
for our graphing server to produce graphs from.
A correct xml file should look like this:
On Sun, 2003-01-12 at 23:32, Randy J. Ray wrote:
> > That reminds me. Is .NET the way to automatically pass a load of
> > lat/long values into Mappoint so that it displays automatically?
>
> Well, MapPoint *does* do that, but I believe it is a premium service. I know
> that Tellme is billed by Ma
Lusercop wrote:
> Yes, but a) Lawrence Lessig (Larry Lessig - we love Larrys) is a lawyer in
> America rather than in the UK, and b) you're forgetting about the UK test
> cases that have already happened.
No, I'm not forgetting about anything. I'm paraphrasing what Larry said.
My point, or rath
On 13/01/2003 at 11:05 +, Andy Wardley wrote:
In short, the Disney corporation is making sure that no-one ever does
to them what Walt Disney did to others. The term of copyright law has
been extended 11 times in the last 40 years, coincidentally around the
time that the copyright on the firs
Nigel Hamilton wrote:
> Umm ... Copyright only grants 'the right to copy' to the author.
True. But that wasn't how it used to be. More importantly, it is now
a totally absurd situation because works are copied every time you open
a web page.
Copyright should restrict publishing, not co
Nicholas Clark wrote:
> Under traditional law, what's to stop you taking your legally owned copy of
> the file, and placing it on a networked file system such as NFS. There is
> still only one copy of the file (on your server) yet now you can let all
> the programmers read from the one copy simulta
Hi Andy,
I think Lawrence Lessig and Richard Stallman should think a little
more about their audience.
Yes ... we all read books and listen to music ... but a great
majority of us are also authors - we write web pages, emails, manuals,
specs, books, talks and programs (
On 13/01/2003 at 11:32 -0600, Nigel Hamilton wrote:
Hi Andy,
I think Lawrence Lessig and Richard Stallman should think a little
more about their audience.
Yes ... we all read books and listen to music ... but a great
majority of us are also authors - we write web pages, emails, manuals,
specs,
On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 11:32:38AM -0600, Nigel Hamilton wrote:
>
> Soon enough the 'rage against the machine' rhetoric is going to
> sound tired ... both Lessig and Stallman, can choose to send a more
> positive message (albeit a bit boring) ... the fact is no corporation ever
> had an 'ide
Nigel Hamilton wrote:
> I think Lawrence Lessig and Richard Stallman should think a little
> more about their audience.
I think Lessig does very well at targetting his audience.
> Yes ... we all read books and listen to music ... but a great
> majority of us are also authors - we
> >
> > I think Lawrence Lessig and Richard Stallman should think a little
> >more about their audience.
> >
> > Yes ... we all read books and listen to music ... but a great
> >majority of us are also authors - we write web pages, emails, manuals,
> >specs, books, talks and programs (esp).
On 13/01/2003 at 12:01 -0600, Nigel Hamilton wrote:
[...] the power is in the author's hands to licence it whatever way they
want!
What if your rights as an author are drowned out by your employer's
contract over you? Who was the person at Disney who drew Ariel, the
Little Mermaid, for the fi
HI Paul,
I could read the Lessig article 100 times ... it doesn't change
the facts:
* copyright law protects individual authors - first and foremost -
by protecting their intellectual output
* copyright is instant, automatic, free, flexible (e.g., GPL) and
close to uni
Nigel Hamilton wrote:
> If people aren't too bored already by this, I'd like to give a
> couple of tech talks on intellectual property in the coming months ...
That would be great. One scheduled for March, and one for May[1]. This
is probably one of those things that'll be best as a presentatio
On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, Mark Fowler wrote:
> That would be great. One scheduled for March, and one for May[1]. This
> is probably one of those things that'll be best as a presentation followed
> by a lot of questions in the pub later.
[1] Though I'm not sure about all this yet, Lot's of conference
On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 12:01:12PM -0600, Nigel Hamilton wrote:
> Where do you think the rights come from in the first place?
Society (governments) decided to grant them to whomever.
> The GPL, CCL, Berkley licence (pick your licence) all rely on one
> thing: Copyright.
>
> And the power is
Nigel Hamilton wrote:
> I could read the Lessig article 100 times ... it doesn't change
> the facts:
No disprespect, but Lessig is a lawyer and seems to understand the
issues relating to copyright law very well indeed.
If you think he's missed the facts then I suggest you take it up with
him.
On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, Andy Wardley wrote:
> Nicholas Clark wrote:
> > Under traditional law, what's to stop you taking your legally owned copy of
> > the file, and placing it on a networked file system such as NFS. There is
> > still only one copy of the file (on your server) yet now you can let al
On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, Nigel Hamilton wrote:
>
> HI Paul,
>
> I could read the Lessig article 100 times ... it doesn't change
> the facts:
>
> * copyright law protects individual authors - first and foremost -
> by protecting their intellectual output
> * copyright is instant,
Nigel Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> HI Paul,
>
> I could read the Lessig article 100 times ... it doesn't change
> the facts:
>
> * copyright law protects individual authors - first and foremost -
> by protecting their intellectual output
>
> * copyright is instant
HI Piers,
> >
> > It's what authors do with these rights that's the 'main game' ...
> > corporations don't have ideas - people do.
>
> You are aware of how close the US Recording Industry got to having
> music written while under contract to a record company reclassified as
> 'work for hire
On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 11:13:05AM +, Paul Mison ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On 13/01/2003 at 11:05 +, Andy Wardley wrote:
>
> >In short, the Disney corporation is making sure that no-one ever does
> >to them what Walt Disney did to others. The term of copyright law has
> >been extended
On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 02:26:03PM +, Mark Fowler wrote:
> Though I'm not sure about all this yet, Lot's of conferences we may
> need to work around this year. Eight of them. Eight!
>
> German Perl Workshop 5th-17th March
> YAPC::Israel 12th May
> YAPC::Canada 15th-16th
On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, Nigel Hamilton wrote:
> You probably know that when a programmer is employed in the UK IT
> industry, there is an implied contract of service (i.e., work for hire)
> ... this means any copyright works created while working is assigned to
> the employer ... most IT contra
On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 02:26:03PM +, Mark Fowler wrote:
> German Perl Workshop 5th-17th March
That'll be 5th-7th March.
Anyone going? (Apart from Nicholas Clark of course.)
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> > German Perl Workshop 5th-17th March
>
> That'll be 5th-7th March.
>
> Anyone going? (Apart from Nicholas Clark of course.)
Yup, I'm giving a talk on heuristic detection of email-borne viruses
with Perl...
+Pete
>
> The reality is somewhat different though. The reality is that, thanks to
> Big Nasty Corp's lobbying of government I cannot parody Disney's latest
> work without their corporate lawyers breathing down my neck for copyright
> infringement. Yet that very same type of parody was what got Disne
On Mon 13 Jan 2003, David Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> LBW probably last two weeks of August
Location?
Kake
now passport-enabled
On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 07:19:06PM +, David Cantrell wrote:
> LBW probably last two weeks of August
You know, the fact that I'm only interpreting this in terms of cricket
is kind of scary.
dha, american. no, really.
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