On 12/21/2014 12:12 PM, Sue Spence wrote:
On 21 December 2014 at 16:36, Martin A. Brooks mar...@antibodymx.net
wrote:
From: Andrew Solomon and...@geekuni.com
To: london pm london.pm@london.pm.org
Sent: Saturday, 20 December, 2014 6:36:54 PM
Subject: New Year's Resolution - Learn Modern Perl
the @sorted array. I'd like to golf this if I can but I've hit a
wall.
check out Sort::Maker which can generate and rub an ST for you. it can
also generate the faster GRT style sort.
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type they will likely not do it. they claim to be smallish with 20 or so
people.
write me off list if you want.
thanx,
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. you chewed on it and it melted and
stayed crunchy, a most interesting and very memorable experience.
uri, who is looking forward to this spring after a very cold winter
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or blackmail damian to be in oslo in march?! about
10 years ago i produced his training in boston in february and he was
frozen to icicles. :) i imagine it would be colder in oslo only a month
later. what is the mean temp there in march? and i mean MEAN temp!
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expression. any
of you smutty brits care to elucidate?
here is the article with that comment:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/harold-bronson/the-beatles-humor_b_474.html
thanx,
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and the
classic metasyntactic names.
uri
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. the key is
that assignment binds tighter than the comma. your eyes may say
otherwise but perl (and abigail) knows better! :)
thanx,
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On 05/15/2013 12:06 PM, AJ Dhaliwal wrote:
Damian (and Dave cross) disagree with you on that one. A week with them
is worth more than a year's actual experience.
On 14/05/13 22:10, Uri Guttman wrote:
also even a week of training by damian (or dave cross) won't give
actual experience
On 05/14/2013 09:05 AM, Aaron Trevena wrote:
You don't even need to train them youselves to start with - there are
plenty of training courses available to get them started, or you could
get a trainer onsite.
i tried something like that a few years ago with damian conway. it was
an offer to
On 05/14/2013 12:09 AM, Richard Foley wrote:
I had a contract role in Switzerland where the client was happy for me to come
on board in a (largely) remote capacity. That meant some on-site work to
familiarize me with the team and the project and then shift off-site for the
majority of the work.
On 12/12/2012 07:12 AM, Leon Brocard wrote:
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 02:29:24AM -0500, Uri Guttman wrote:
i can't say much about this but you have to look at the code here.
https://metacpan.org/author/PERLOOK/
I congratulate Alexej on joining the CPAN authors club. Instead of making fun
On 12/12/2012 11:46 AM, James Laver wrote:
On 12 Dec 2012, at 15:57, Uri Guttman u...@stemsystems.com wrote:
On 12/12/2012 07:12 AM, Leon Brocard wrote:
he still thinks his code is doing something useful
It is. I had to write something similar to his Boolean module when I
inherited a fucked
On 12/12/2012 12:57 PM, Joseph Werner wrote:
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 12:45 PM, Gareth Harper spansh+lon...@gmail.com wrote:
PBP and I disagree with you on this one, Gareth. When a sub does a
return 0; to a list context, that is interpreted as true. A bare
return; is best practice.
and i
i can't say much about this but you have to look at the code here.
https://metacpan.org/author/PERLOOK/
in particular the boolean stuff is amazing and the print stuff isn't far
behind.
uri
On 12/03/2012 07:05 AM, James Laver wrote:
On 3 Dec 2012, at 06:38, Uri Guttman u...@stemsystems.com wrote:
one reason i ask my candidates where else they are being submitted is to avoid
those duplications.
Bullshit. You ask because you want to try and muscle in on those
positions. If you
On 12/03/2012 04:51 PM, Tom Hukins wrote:
On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 10:40:02AM -0500, Uri Guttman wrote:
On 12/03/2012 07:05 AM, James Laver wrote:
one reason i ask my candidates where else they are being
submitted is to avoid those duplications.
Bullshit. You ask because you want to try
On 12/02/2012 03:32 PM, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
If an agent sends your resume somewhere without telling you, is
there any kind of redress?
i wish there were redress other than making those agents wear a dress. i have
been on both sides and i distinctly told my agents to never submit me without
On 11/23/2012 02:43 AM, Andrew Savige wrote:
Live Perl Golf Apocalypse 2000 at TPC 4, aka uri's triumph.
wow. that was a painful event. saved by damian's fill in talk and
forgiven by gnat. it was a team failure, so i can't take all the credit.
iirc nfs didn't work well on the donated boxes
On 11/23/2012 02:43 AM, Andrew Savige wrote:
Damian's Coy
module 1999 and subsequent explosion of interest in haiku.
one of my favorite damian stories is about his talk on coy.pm. this was
early damian and tpc didn't schedule him more time or a large enough
room. he was given back to back
this thread reminds me of something we need to crow about more. so many
conventions, inventions, ideas have come from the perl community and
then be copied/stolen/absorbed by other langs, usually without much
recognition. the most obvious is regexes with the pcre package everyone
seems to use
On 11/23/2012 08:30 PM, James Laver wrote:
On 24 Nov 2012, at 00:36, Uri Guttman u...@stemsystems.com wrote:
yapc has yet to be properly copied. no one else delivers more bang for the buck
and fun as well.
mjd invented lightning talks and they are at many confs now, not just lang
ones
On 11/22/2012 07:19 AM, Abigail wrote:
I do remember Kevin giving us a tour of CMU, which included the location
of the box that was running purl. This was during one of the first YAPCs,
so indeed no later than 19100.
A community thing that hasn't been mentioned yet: conference auctions.
(Isn't
On 11/22/2012 12:17 PM, Abigail wrote:
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:57:52AM -0500, Uri Guttman wrote:
the first yapc in pitt/cmu run by lenzo was in the red. during the
banquet we passed around a (real) hat). we collected over $2k to cover
the shortage.
Actually, the collection was during
On 11/20/2012 11:00 AM, Dave Cross wrote:
Quoting Uri Guttman u...@stemsystems.com:
in that vein you should also mention matt's scripts. evil code but
they helped perl gain massive numbers of users. many were kiddies but
some actually learned perl.
Yes. I'm well aware of the effects
On 11/20/2012 04:17 PM, Randy J. Ray wrote:
On 11/20/12 1:10 PM, Dirk Koopman wrote:
On 20/11/12 20:42, DAVID HODGKINSON wrote:
As did PHP. And the rest is history.
Speaking of which, is it just a folk memory that suggests that the first
'P' in PHP once stood for perl?
I thought, for the
On 10/30/2012 01:35 PM, DAVID HODGKINSON wrote:
Chris,
Can you define proprietary please?
It will be shipped with .so files?
The source will be there but the license says we can't change it?
it seems pretty obvious to me. the sybase people have written a new
driver which is being released
On 09/24/2012 11:17 PM, Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote:
So, HTML::Template or Mason?
*ducks*
Template::Simple!
print '*ducks*' x 100 ;
uri
On 09/06/2012 02:34 PM, Abigail wrote:
On Thu, Sep 06, 2012 at 03:55:36PM +0100, Peter Corlett wrote:
On 5 Sep 2012, at 17:35, Abigail wrote:
[...]
No. Well, it filters out the wannabees. It doesn't recognize the serious
coder. If, given the Fibonacci sequence, or a similar recursive formula,
On 09/05/2012 06:34 PM, Simon Wistow wrote:
On Thu, Sep 06, 2012 at 12:12:16AM +0200, Joel Bernstein said:
Really I find interviews are less about individual questions or tasks,
and more about where the conversation goes based on them and the
interviewer's abilities to steer the conversation
On 09/04/2012 08:03 AM, Mr I wrote:
I've literally had people who were Senior programmers (whatever that
means) who, when given the instructions Given that fib(n) is equal to
fib(n-1) + fib(n-2) write a fib function in any language didn't even
get to the
sub fib {
my $n = shift;
On 09/04/2012 09:20 AM, Avishalom Shalit wrote:
I remember meeting someone who knew what the sequence was but forgot the
name.
Ended up calling it the Fettucini sequence.
Bonus points.
told that to my wife and she just about snorted pasta out of her nose!
she didn't know the name fibonacci
On 09/04/2012 09:41 AM, Dominic Humphries wrote:
On Tue, 2012-09-04 at 14:31 +0100, Matt Freake wrote:
For that reason, I would have thought there were other, better, recursion
problems out there I could use.
Tower of Hanoi? :)
but at least 20 disks and it has run before the interview is
On 09/04/2012 12:05 PM, Jacqui Caren wrote:
On 04/09/2012 15:03, David Cantrell wrote:
You are aware, I trust, that the whole point of an interview is to be
discriminatory?
Discrimination is probably too evocative a word :-)
Also an good interview is a two way exchange on info.
i said that
On 09/04/2012 12:18 PM, David Hodgkinson wrote:
On 4 Sep 2012, at 16:07, Smylers smyl...@stripey.com wrote:
Piers Cawley writes:
Tower of Hanoi is always a better example for solving with recursion
than the fibobloodynacci sequence. If nothing else, the recursive
solution isn't quite so
On 08/31/2012 06:09 PM, Denny wrote:
Hi Rick,
On Fri, 2012-08-31 at 11:16 +, Rick Deller wrote:
I have brought a couple of books on the subject which I'm reading through
I'm very keen to learn more and how to do it
Can anyone suggest more books or another way of doing it ?
As well as
On 08/31/2012 07:30 PM, Paul Makepeace wrote:
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 4:16 AM, Rick Deller r...@eligo.co.uk wrote:
Hi all,
I have brought a couple of books on the subject which I'm reading through
I'm very keen to learn more and how to do it
Can anyone suggest more books or another way of
On 08/28/2012 01:49 PM, Zbigniew Łukasiak wrote:
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Dave Hodgkinson daveh...@gmail.com wrote:
Anyone done this lately? Still as useful as it used to be?
I did it I think 10 years ago, so not really recently, but I am
disappointed that I cannot find my
On 08/28/2012 02:46 PM, Paul Makepeace wrote:
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Uri Guttman u...@stemsystems.com wrote:
i also did it way back and didn't like it then. multiple choice tests in
general suck for actual testing of real world skills and programming ones
suck even more. no candidate
On 08/28/2012 05:15 PM, David Cantrell wrote:
We would, of course, then go through candidates' code with them, talking
about how they might improve it given more time, what other approaches
they considered and so on. Apparently my solution fucked with peoples'
heads. I blame MJD, because IIRC
http://www.stviateurbagel.com/products/?rand=1002335542
On 08/22/2012 04:35 AM, Raphael Mankin wrote:
On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 01:42 -0400, Uri Guttman wrote:
http://www.stviateurbagel.com/products/?rand=1002335542
So what's the problem? Bagels are no more native to the US than they are
to Canada. They are a European invention.
never meant to send
On 04/20/2012 11:29 AM, Simon Wistow wrote:
just fine. However I'm trying to add a new opcode DAT which can take any
number of operands
DAT 0x170, Hello , 0x2e1 (, )
and it fails there.
Running this
my ($label, $op, @operands) = $line =~ m!
^
(?::(\w+) \s+)?
On 04/20/2012 05:23 PM, Simon Wistow wrote:
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 08:37:42PM +, Anthony Lucas said:
How about a parser using Regexp? Parser::MGC?
You can implement a proper parser, or just a few staged regexp, or anything
in-between.
I ended up just doing this
my ($label, $op,
On 03/30/2012 05:24 AM, Steve Mynott wrote:
Has anyone tried programming outside?
E-ink (like on the Kindle) works well in sunlight and I wondered if
any such device would be useable (ideally with a decent keyboard).
in years (and decades) past, i did some coding on source printouts. i
On 03/30/2012 12:52 PM, Paul Makepeace wrote:
Me too. I actually found these paper sessions some of the most
productive ever. Just recently I had my head in a bunch of confusing
object relations and wished for the soothing sound of a dot matrix
(shows last time I did it) that would let me see
On 12/13/2011 07:22 AM, Leo Lapworth wrote:
YES.
that is a very delicate and interesting question. i have just learned
what one top deal in the uk is and it is way up there. few in the US
could match it. google can but you need to work onsite there and much of
the pay is in stock options.
On 12/09/2011 02:58 AM, Rudolf Lippan wrote:
On Friday, December 09, 2011 at 02:23:22 AM, Avleen Vig wrote:
My understanding is that NAP had a very hard time finding people in the
US---I know I passed their posts by before. I had serious concerns after
talking to them, and the recruiter
On 12/09/2011 09:08 AM, Avleen Vig wrote:
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 4:09 AM, Uri Guttmanu...@stemsystems.com wrote:
On 12/09/2011 02:58 AM, Rudolf Lippan wrote:
On Friday, December 09, 2011 at 02:23:22 AM, Avleen Vig wrote:
My understanding is that NAP had a very hard time finding
On 12/09/2011 09:32 AM, Avleen Vig wrote:
Not entirely true. Telecommuting doesnt erect barriers, it results in
different barriers which need ti be handled differently.
I worked for a distributed company for almost to years. Since then I've
worked from home for almost 18 months. It's not more
On 12/09/2011 10:36 AM, Jason Tang wrote:
On 9 December 2011 15:14, Uri Guttmanu...@stemsystems.com wrote:
On 12/09/2011 09:32 AM, Avleen Vig wrote:
Not entirely true. Telecommuting doesnt erect barriers, it results in
different barriers which need ti be handled differently.
I worked for
On 12/09/2011 10:48 AM, Rudy Lippan wrote:
On Fri, 09 Dec 2011 04:09:00 -0500, Uri Guttmanu...@stemsystems.com
wrote:
i don't have a deal with NaP so i can't say anything about this
blowup. but i wouldn't ever keep someone from taking the bird in the
hand. it is unprofessional and #^#^@ed
On 12/09/2011 12:03 PM, Richard Foley wrote:
I couldn't agree with you more, Uri. When anyone mentions Telecommuting,
hackles seem to rise, it's like the religious wars between vi and emacs, perl
and java, mac + windoze, linux + the rest of the world, etc. I've worked in
many places both
{$_}\n, keys %conf ;
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D == Denny 2...@denny.me writes:
D On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 11:59 -0400, Uri Guttman wrote:
from the File::Slurp synopsis. can't get much cooler, short or useful
than this. :)
my %conf = read_file( $file_name ) =~ /^(\w+)=(\.*)$/mg ;
write_file( $file_name, {atomic = 1}, map $_=$conf
PN == Philip Newton philip.new...@gmail.com writes:
PN On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 17:59, Uri Guttman u...@stemsystems.com wrote:
# Here is a simple and fast way to load and save a simple config file
# made of key=value lines.
my %conf = read_file( $file_name ) =~ /^(\w
D == Denny 2...@denny.me writes:
D On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 13:10 -0400, Uri Guttman wrote:
if you think those are complex, you haven't seen enough perl! :)
D I'm trying to think about the target audience, rather than show how
D clever I am.
that isn't clever in my book. the slurp thing
DH == Dave Hodgkinson daveh...@gmail.com writes:
DH On 30 May 2011, at 22:17, Uri Guttman wrote:
DH No. Real people want to solve real world problems in a simple,
DH maintainable way, not wave around a canapé sized penis.
you have a strange way of measuring genitals. real world
anything else posted here that is even close to
useful and cool and newbie level yet. but everyone can jump on
mine. wow.
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better. use your collective
branes to do that instead of one liners. it should be a teaching site
that is the primary one newbies should go to. instead it is a backwater
with a single book on it.
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when someone asks for a simple way to modify a file from inside
Perl, you have an easy answer to give them.
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. definitely good enough for many butter
replacement apps. and we use butter too so we can compare.
uri
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All the boggled mongers
PC Where do they all come from?
PC All the boggled mongers
PC Where do they all belong?
i feel very dirty. must switch to coding in lisp to feel better.
and paul and i share the same birthday. not sure what that means.
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CJ == Christopher Jones c.jo...@ucl.ac.uk writes:
CJ On 27 Mar 2010, at 18:16, Dave Cross d...@dave.org.uk wrote:
On 03/27/2010 09:10 AM, Luis Motta Campos wrote:
Dave Cross wrote:
On 03/27/2010 08:13 AM, Uri Guttman wrote:
and paul and i share the same birthday. not sure what
for boston.pm to be
local to london.pm? there are several overlapping members.
thanx,
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to. this is not
how you are supposed to code in perl
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want to slam something, please slam the right thing. as i
said, i am trying to place people there and i did chastise the ceo for
his spamming of london.pm. i didn't like it when you all got that.
uri
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in a short time frame. that alone impressed me. anyhow, if
anyone wants more info, contact me. if you know someone who may be
interested in the job, send them my way and there could be a referal fee
in it for you.
thanx,
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be a way to use \G in the regex to start parsing from
where you last parsed. i couldn't get that to work but maybe ask damian
for help. :)
uri
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idea. sort::maker actually generates source code for its
sorts and you can print that out. then you cut/paste that generated code
into your program. the only issue i see is how to handle varying length
OIDs. but i leave that as an exercise to the reader.
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of integers (or shorts) and pack them for the
key. similar to what you have there.
uri
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RF == Richard Foley richard.fo...@rfi.net writes:
RF Should that be a numerical sort via the spaceship operator?
RF = instead of cmp
nope, since he is trying to compare a long string of the packed
OIDs. you can't compare woth = anything other than normal integers or
floats.
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SC == Simon Cozens si...@simon-cozens.org writes:
SC On 26/09/2009 21:40, Billy Abbott wrote:
Assuming we're not referring to fried email, than the answer is yes.
http://www.kare11.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=254168
That assumes you live in Hawaii, of course.
The
AA == Andy Armstrong a...@hexten.net writes:
AA On 21 Sep 2009, at 14:22, Raphael Mankin wrote:
Well, I've been bumming about contracting for over 30 years, and the
market seems to be picking up a bit. There are more jobs about and
rates
are also up.
Perl is in a funny
some code that will automail faq
entries so i can spam here. plenty of perl hackers here with obviously
nothing else to do! :)
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JL == James Laver james.la...@gmail.com writes:
JL On 16 Sep 2009, at 19:17, Uri Guttman wrote:
i also have some code that will automail faq
entries so i can spam here.
JL Yes, spam is always the answer to problems.
JL Crazy idea: there is already a process in place for updating
JL == James Laver james.la...@gmail.com writes:
JL On 16 Sep 2009, at 20:04, Uri Guttman wrote:
crazier idea: it doesn't get enough attention. more eyes eq more
updates.
JL It's for a good cause doesn't justify spamming a list that frankly
JL has nothing to do with the issue at hand
DC == David Cantrell da...@cantrell.org.uk writes:
DC Uri Guttman wrote:
brian d foy autoposts FAQ entries to comp.lang.perl.misc and they get
read and feedback is given to some of them. bdf has updated them as he
can when good stuff is posted about an entry. yes, many FAQs are sadly
at -e line 1.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted.
why would it recurse on the sub in @INC? it prints foo twice which shows
that.
uri
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the pages.
i now leave you to discuss.
uri
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DH == Dave Hodgkinson daveh...@gmail.com writes:
DH On 3 Jul 2009, at 16:47, Uri Guttman wrote:
DH == Dave Hodgkinson daveh...@gmail.com writes:
DH On 3 Jul 2009, at 12:32, Edmund von der Burg wrote:
3) tiny, simple, bulletproof script to take templates and generate
html
DK == Dirk Koopman d...@tobit.co.uk writes:
DK Uri Guttman wrote:
Template::Simple is the easiest and fastest one out there. and the
connection to london.pm is that one of your members funded its
conversion to a cpan module!
also it now has compiled templates (in git
in that circumstance as you will always have a
real undef element in the list. the caller needs to know the context of
what they want and plain return allows that control.
uri
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UG == Uri Guttman u...@stemsystems.com writes:
CJ == Chris Jack chris_j...@msn.com writes:
CJ 3) Write a Perl function that takes two references to arrays and
CJ returns the intersect of them. If an entry appears n times in
CJ array 1 and m times in array 2, the output should list
center opposite the
fairmont. the downside is that san jose is a very dull town (especially
compared to portland). you have to drive to san francisco or down the
coast to monterey to be in more interesting territory.
uri
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NC == Nicholas Clark n...@ccl4.org writes:
NC On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:32:55AM -0500, Uri Guttman wrote:
rumor is tpc may be back in san jose due to outgrowing the portland
convention center. san jose has a large center opposite the
fairmont. the downside is that san jose is a very
]}}}{$_},@{$_[1]})}} ;
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is that tomorrow is possibly my last day
PH here and so I wont be able to pick up mail after the weekend. So
PH if you have something to tell me you could try peterhi [ at ]
PH ntlworld [ dot
PH ] com, which should be a good test of my spam filter :)
i cc'ed that address.
thanx,
uri
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the Daves?
NC I wonder how long before we have a point during a social where
NC there are more women than Daves, even with all the men declaring
NC themselves honourary Daves. October 2nd? November 6th? December
NC 4th?
dave?! DAVE?! dave's not here!!
:)
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