Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-06 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 06:28:03PM +, Simon Wilcox wrote: AIUI, many consultants are measured by the number of candidates attending interviews so it's in their interest (if not the candidate's) to, err, massage a CV. Last April I do remember a couple of pimps revealing maybe slightly more

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, it's been a few weeks now and the job market doesn't seem to be getting any better. I'm still not even getting interviews. Weeks? HAH! plug On a similar note, I'm getting a lot of interest in my non-exec and interim CTO product (ie: me). If your

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Natalie Ford
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 10:15:26AM +, Dave Cross wrote: Well, it's been a few weeks now and the job market doesn't seem to be getting any better. I'm still not even getting interviews. Well, I am now officially signed off with CFT indeffinitely by the gp... -- Natalie Ford

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Chris Ball
Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, anyway, this is just a reminder that I'm still available. If you or your company have any short-term Perl needs, please get in touch with me to discuss it. Don't think it's been mentioned here, so I shall; theregister started up a job site a week or

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Dave Cross
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 12:22:00PM +, Chris Ball ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, anyway, this is just a reminder that I'm still available. If you or your company have any short-term Perl needs, please get in touch with me to discuss it. Don't

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Roger Burton West
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 02:57:37PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: Now I can understand the business need to hide address/email/etc.[1] or else they would have to sign you up to some contract - but how do you feel about them touching it up (your CV that is ;-)) to aid your cause? ;-) Is this good

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Dave == Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dave Thanks, just checked it out. Dave File must be in Microsoft Word format Send them a plain text file and say Microsoft Word has no problems reading this. :-) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Robert Shiels
From: Randal L. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dave File must be in Microsoft Word format Send them a plain text file and say Microsoft Word has no problems reading this. Yes - simply rename the file to cv.doc, and he'll never know it isn't just a plain ASCII text file. On the point about

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Roger Burton West
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 03:21:34PM -, Robert Shiels wrote: Yes - simply rename the file to cv.doc, and he'll never know it isn't just a plain ASCII text file. Apparently this is no longer true; I tried it last time round. Text, HTML, RTF, all were renamed to .doc, but all were unreadable by

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Simon Wistow
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 03:29:56PM +, Dave Thorn said: or rename cv.txt to cv.doc I have mine in rtf for layout ness and because I can, theoretically, I haven't actually got round to implementing it yet, generate it using our favourite scripting language and can therefore write a Makefile

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Simon Wilcox
On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Thanks, just checked it out. File must be in Microsoft Word format Morons! IHMO ... The real issue here isn't MS Word vs. PDF/HTML/DVI/ASCII , its the point that a recruiter wants to edit your CV

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Robert Shiels
From: Roger Burton West [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 03:21:34PM -, Robert Shiels wrote: Yes - simply rename the file to cv.doc, and he'll never know it isn't just a plain ASCII text file. Apparently this is no longer true; I tried it last time round. Text, HTML, RTF, all

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Chris Devers
On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Simon Wilcox wrote: I think a lot of recruiters have invested in fancy software to index and trawl CVs. So fancy it can't cope with anything other than documents in Word binary format, even though Word itself will read several others. If you apply online for a job at

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Roger Burton West
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 03:55:13PM -, Robert Shiels wrote: I've only got Word97, and it worked for a .txt file there. Not for an html one though, I tested that before I sent my last post. Does anyone have access to a more recent version of Word and can confirm what Roger said? I have no idea

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Dave Thorn
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 07:02:29AM -0800, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Dave == Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dave File must be in Microsoft Word format Send them a plain text file and say Microsoft Word has no problems reading this. or rename cv.txt to cv.doc -- dave thorn | [EMAIL

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 02:57:37PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Thanks, just checked it out. File must be in Microsoft Word format Morons! IHMO ... The real issue here isn't MS Word vs. PDF/HTML/DVI/ASCII , its the point that a

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Roger Burton West
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 03:44:28PM +, Nicholas Clark wrote: I realise that currently it is. *Why* do they do it? To increase your chances of getting an interview. They get paid if you get a job. Any job. So they want you to go to as many interviews as possible, and they'll press you to

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Piers Cawley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Randal L. Schwartz) writes: Dave == Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dave Thanks, just checked it out. Dave File must be in Microsoft Word format Send them a plain text file and say Microsoft Word has no problems reading this. I've had a pimp who refused to open a

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Robert Shiels
From: Roger Burton West [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 03:44:28PM +, Nicholas Clark wrote: I realise that currently it is. *Why* do they do it? To increase your chances of getting an interview. They get paid if you get a job. Any job. So they want you to go to as many

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Mike Jarvis
On Tue, 2002-02-05 at 10:44, Nicholas Clark wrote: I realise that currently it is. *Why* do they do it? The only valid reason I could see was that they wished to place their company logo on the top of the CV, so that if it gets copied or passed around it becomes obvious who provided it.

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Chris Ball
Roger Burton West [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 03:44:28PM +, Nicholas Clark wrote: They get paid if you get a job. Any job. So they want you to go to as many interviews as possible, and they'll press you to accept any offer I don't think that's necessarily the case.

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Chris Devers
On 5 Feb 2002, Chris Ball wrote: Roger Burton West [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They get paid if you get a job. Any job. So they want you to go to as many interviews as possible, and they'll press you to accept any offer I don't think that's necessarily the case. If an agency supplies a

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Simon Wilcox
On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Nicholas Clark wrote: [snip cv stuff] I had mine nicely formatted and fitting on 4 pages. Not only did they deformat it, but they also carefully removed the lines I'd made indicating which jobs were permenant, which was contract, and which permanent jobs had gone bust on

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread The address I am subscribed from (as if a header can be verified as being from the real me)
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 03:53:34PM +, Simon Wistow wrote: The one advantage of Word is that you cna password protect it so tat AgentScum can't edit it. Has anyone actually tried pulling this trick on the pimps? If so, how do they react? And how effective is Word's lockdown? Does it not

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Nic Gibson
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 09:44:20PM +, The address I am subscribed from (as if a header can be verified as being from the real me) wrote: On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 03:53:34PM +, Simon Wistow wrote: The one advantage of Word is that you cna password protect it so tat AgentScum can't

Re: JOB: wanted (all serioues offers considered)

2002-02-05 Thread Robert Shiels
From: The address I am subscribed from (as if a header can be verified as being from the real me) [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 03:53:34PM +, Simon Wistow wrote: The one advantage of Word is that you cna password protect it so tat AgentScum can't edit it. Has anyone actually