Re: [Lsr] When is an IANA Registry Required

2021-03-17 Thread Gyan Mishra
Les >From an operators perspective my take is what is important to be registered as is what is required today for any protocol specification with IANA is the TLV and Sub TLV codepoints that are allocated by the protocol specification being designed. That is all that is requirement for any new

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Poll for “Using IS-IS Multi-Topology (MT) for Segment Routing based Virtual Transport Network” - draft-xie-lsr-isis-sr-vtn-mt-03

2021-03-17 Thread lich...@chinatelecom.cn
Hi, folks, In this draft, MT-ID is resued as the control plane ID of VTN and advertise TE attrributes for different VTNs. I think it is useful for carrier network, and I support it to be adopted. Best regards Chen 李 晨 Li Chen 中国电信研究院 网络规划研究创新中心 电话:010-50902891/18910853955

Re: [Lsr] When is an IANA Registry Required

2021-03-17 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Tony – IMO, there is no need for registries for the first category. The WG has been alive for over 20 years, defined many new TLVs with flags fields, and I am not aware of any confusion – so if it ain’t broke don’t fix it. But, if the WG consensus turns out to be to create registries in such

Re: [Lsr] When is an IANA Registry Required

2021-03-17 Thread Tony Li
Les, > [Les:] The question here is whether there is a qualitative difference between > two classes of bit fields. That is indeed the key question. IMHO, there is not. I don’t much care if a field is updated by a bis document or a related document. Regardless of the cause, as soon as there

Re: [Lsr] When is an IANA Registry Required

2021-03-17 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Tony - > -Original Message- > From: Tony Li On Behalf Of Tony Li > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 11:37 AM > To: Alvaro Retana > Cc: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) ; draft-ietf-lsr-isis-srv6- > extensi...@ietf.org; lsr@ietf.org; John Scudder ; > Christian Hopps ; lsr-cha...@ietf.org >

Re: [Lsr] When is an IANA Registry Required

2021-03-17 Thread Tony Li
> I don't know that you and I are getting anywhere. I know Robert also > cares about this topic, I hope others do too. I care. It seems to me that we have registries where we have different documents allocating values from the same space. This makes sense: we need to coordinate things.

Re: [Lsr] When is an IANA Registry Required

2021-03-17 Thread Alvaro Retana
On March 17, 2021 at 12:25:25 PM, Les Ginsberg wrote: > > In the extreme case anyone can make use of the bits, through the ISE > > or a different SDO -- ideally we will be paying attention, but may > > not. Sure, a registry doesn't stop implementations from squatting on > > codepoints either

Re: [Lsr] When is an IANA Registry Required

2021-03-17 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Alvaro - Inline. > -Original Message- > From: Alvaro Retana > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 7:04 AM > To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) ; draft-ietf-lsr-isis-srv6- > extensi...@ietf.org > Cc: John Scudder ; lsr-cha...@ietf.org; lsr@ietf.org; > Christian Hopps > Subject: RE: When is an IANA

Re: [Lsr] When is an IANA Registry Required

2021-03-17 Thread Alvaro Retana
On March 16, 2021 at 6:24:22 PM, Les Ginsberg wrote: Les: Hi! > But one thing I find missing in your response is some info on what problem > YOU think needs to be addressed? I simply think that the specifications are not complete without guidance on how to use/assign the unused bits.  I

Re: [Lsr] When is an IANA Registry Required

2021-03-17 Thread Robert Raszuk
Hi Les, Perhaps I did not express my point clearly. My intention was not to say that implementors *only* look at IANA codepoints. I said often not always :) They sure look at RFCs too. My point was that if I need to decode something - IANA gives me sort of decode cheatsheet and reference to RFC.