That's a very appropriate reference to a guy who lost half his family in
Auschwitz. Thanks Michael Thames. Your true colors are coming out in
brighter colors all the time
Matanya Orphee... I thought that was a French name. The Nazi was
referring to you hating anyone who disagrees with you. I
Yahoo sends anything that's not addressed to you, that is, anything that
doesn't have your email address in the To: field to the bulk mail folder.
This causes problems for poorly designed listservers (like the one the
lute list runs on) which send to themselves and blind copy the list
members.
Matanya Orphee... I thought that was a French name. The Nazi was
referring to you hating anyone who disagrees with you. I 'm Truly sorry for
your loss, the world can be a brutal place, sometimes.
You know this whole thing reminds me of when I was the new kid at
school and I would get in a
How should I tune a 10c lute with 64cm mensur? It is safe
to tune it to g' with a=440hz?
// Sorry for bad english
Atilla Erdodi
I am going to take a risk. There have been comments among us about specific
religious associatians. And specifically a comment that M.O. insulted
Sephardim. Well then, is M.O. an Ashkenazi conducting an internal
confrontation? He says he has Sephardic family, but who knows what that is.
Bear with
Matanya,
You are quite right that the issues of publishers, socialists and rip offs
are public matters. But one does have to define the nature of a public
forum. A list server (listserv in old computer speak) is a community of
people with a common interest, and when particular interests within
From http://harmoniamundi.com/HMboutique/Product.asp?HMID=8699
Vallet: Le Secret des Muses
Paul O'Dette
Usually ships in 1 business day
harmonia mundi
HMU 907300
Someone recently posted a mention of Paul O'Dette releasing a new CD
of
music of Nicolas Vallet. Does anyone
Dear Rebecca,
Rebecca Banks wrote:
Has anyone any experience of Szymon Gasienica Lutes? He
has a wonderful web site at [1]www.luthier.art.pl.
Sorry, no experience.
A visitor from Karkow told me that Mr Gasienica doesn't build lutes any
more : no customers on the horizon.
At 11:39 PM 12/7/2003 -0600, Michael Thames [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's a very appropriate reference to a guy who lost half his family in
Auschwitz. Thanks Michael Thames. Your true colors are coming out in
brighter colors all the time
Matanya Orphee... I thought that was a French name.
Dear Attila,
It depends, there're many factors you should consider:
thickness of the instrument and building style, density, diameter and any
other info about the strings you'd use, and so on.
Normally, g' at a=440Hz for such a string length would be a bit too much,
but you never know until you
Matanya Ophee at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Howard Posner posted here a couple of
days ago some account of what goes on in that NG, on a particular day. Much
of what he said does in fact occurs there, but not on 12/6/03. Be that as
it may, I do not recall any instance of outright antisemitism
Am 8 Dec 2003 um 16:15 hat Bernd Haegemann geschrieben:
A visitor from Karkow told me that Mr Gasienica doesn't build lutes
any more : no customers on the horizon.
Really? I seem to remember that last time I asked him
about his instruments he had a waiting list of some
length. But I may be
Roman Turovsky at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The funny thing is that old postings in those flame wars are nowhere as
interesting as they seemed at the time..
I'm afraid they weren't as interesting as all that at the time, Roman.
What's interesting (or, for that matter, persuasive) to the
Dear lutenists,
the new lutenists reading The List might have got during the latest
weeks an overly negative picture of the quality, nature and usefulness
of The List! We oldies already know that even when these things happen
every now and then, it can also be very friendly and nice here!
I
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/science/12/08/stradivarius.secret.ap/index.html
This is an interesting story about the wood that was used by Stradivari; the Little
Ice Age that gripped Europe from the mid-1400s until the mid-1800s that slowed tree
growth and yielded uncommonly dense Alpine
Matanya Ophee at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The lute has never been like any of the other instrument. It was always on
the outside looking in, and as the Sieur Perrine noted in 1697, it will
always continue to be there, as long as lutenists insist on a notational
system that is not shared by
Dear Patrick,
you wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/science/12/08/stradivarius.secret.ap/index.html
This is an interesting story about the wood that was used by
Stradivari; the Little Ice Age that gripped Europe from the mid-1400s
until the mid-1800s that slowed tree growth and
Jon--
You wrote:
I find that the Nylgut octave strings in the lower registers take a bit longer to
stretch out and
maintain pitch than the treble Nylguts - is that common experience, or do I have
slippage in my pegs that I
haven't noticed? I would be logical that the thicker Nylgut there might
Thanks!
ed
At 09:52 AM 12/8/03 -0500, Daniel Shoskes wrote:
From http://harmoniamundi.com/HMboutique/Product.asp?HMID=8699
Vallet: Le Secret des Muses
        Paul O'Dette
Usually ships in 1 business day
harmonia mundiÂ
 HMU 907300
Someone recently posted a mention of
Thanks!
ed
At 04:18 PM 12/8/03 +0100, Taco Walstra wrote:
On Monday 08 December 2003 14:20, Edward Martin wrote:
Someone recently posted a mention of Paul O'Dette releasing a new CD of
music of Nicolas Vallet. Does anyone have details? I went to the Harmonia
Mundi web site and there is
Here is the latest revision to the Lute Festival 2004 [Cleveland, Ohio, June
27 - July 2, 2004]:
- Christopher Wilson will NOT be on the faculty.
- NIGEL NORTH has agreed to be on the faculty! He will teach a course
called Revisiting the Elizabethan Lute Repertoire. His solo concert will
be
In a message dated 12/6/2003 5:55:37 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As someone who has listened to and enjoyed lute music for over 20 years
(and been playing for 4
months) it continues to surprise me how many people have never heard of
the instrument or know its
sound
The funny thing is that old postings in those flame wars are nowhere as
interesting as they seemed at the time..
I'm afraid they weren't as interesting as all that at the time, Roman.
What's interesting (or, for that matter, persuasive) to the writer in the
heat of combat is a far cry
I would recommend the following simple pieces:
Works by Hans Newsidler, some found in the Lute Society's edition by Martin
Shepard, some from the LS's edition by Stewart McCoy.
Any of a number of works published by Attaignant in 1529: dances and also
intabulations such as Tant que vivray
After
Hi Howard:
I agree with you. I do not think having all Lute tablature converted to
staff notation will do much to aid the growth of the Lute, making its music
more available. Tablature is, after all, as near perfect a system for
notating music written for a stringed and fretted instrument that
They have to listen to this neo
nazi bastard all the time,
You are going much too far.
Please read your statements carefully before you send
them to the world.
I admire Mr. Ophee for his patience.
B.H.
Bernd, take it from an MO expert, what he has is not patience. He
actually seems to
On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, Roman Turovsky wrote:
I think - as many do - that it is a good idea to start lute playing
by a lute in renaissance tuning.
I disagree emphatically. Weiss and Hagen didn't, and look where it took
them.
Where did it really take Mr. Hagen? And also Mr. Weiss.
Tell us,
At 01:35 PM 12/8/2003 -0800, Howard Posner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We have to remember that lute players, then as now, could read staff
notation, and played continuo from the first days of continuo, and often
played obbligato parts, like those by Bach, Handel and Vivaldi, from staff
notation.
They have to listen to this neo
nazi bastard all the time,
You are going much too far.
Please read your statements carefully before you send
them to the world.
I admire Mr. Ophee for his patience.
B.H.
Also:
Bernd,
In the States word nazi is now divorced from its original meaning and is
Roman wrote:
I am now going to do my small part in preventing more flame wars: I'm
going to get off this list, turn off my computer, and pick up my lute.
'Bye
That's what I did this morning, and it felt GOOD.
You can't have done what David did. I believe he was talking about
From: Arto Wikla [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, Roman Turovsky wrote:
I think - as many do - that it is a good idea to start
lute playing
by a lute in renaissance tuning.
I disagree emphatically. Weiss and Hagen didn't, and look where it
took them.
Where did it
times ago, much before the Great New Schism, there was some talk about
RT's sometimes very advanced use of the English words in some of his
postings. I asked for help, because sometimes I could not even understand
the message. Well, anyhow, someone commented that his language reminds in
a way
MO wrote:
You have to acquaint them with the music first. If they catch
the bug, they
would eventually graduate to the lute itself and learn to
read tablature.
Happened to most people here already this way, and it will
happen again. It
is not going to happen by posting facsimiles of
I am going to take a risk. There have been comments among us about specific
religious associatians. And specifically a comment that M.O. insulted
Sephardim. Well then, is M.O. an Ashkenazi conducting an internal
confrontation? He says he has Sephardic family, but who knows what that is.
Bear
Music is music, and that is our topic. Some of the finest music written has
been for one god or another, the particular choice doesn't change the music.
I could write a piece honoring the seventh avenue subway, and if it were a
good piece with lasting musical value it might last an eternity -
Arto,
I read the article but noticed that the dendrochronologist didn't specifically
mention dating a representative sample of Stradivari (or other Cremonese) soundboards
he's using as evidence --- other than the Messiah. One section from the article
also kind of struck me as kind of
So any music not rooted in Christian semantics (like MacOSX rooted in
Unix)
is doomed to being not quite that memorable (see Pagan, Islamic, Judaic
etc., and don't hold you breath for a Ramadan oratorio).
I find this very strange, Roman - in fact I don't find it true at all.
Perhaps it is
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