To the extent that guitarists only compare themselves to other guitarists, they
will have no bona fides as musicians.
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From: Michael Thames [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 8:53 PM
To: lute net; Stuart LeBlanc
Subject: Re: mesmerization
I had
Wow, motion and motor - and time and space - and memory. How basic can you
get.
Both of you spend a lot of words and speculation on the forms of memory and
analysis. But the process is not one or another, it is a combination. Do I
memorize which finger goes to which fret, or do I memorize the
Dear Jim;
I do. I need jazz. I don't need the Who. That's just me. However, I
don't need every expression of jazz that's put out. I'm not going to try to
tell you that you should need jazz or that you should need the jazz I like.
There's something for everybody. I don't know why we seem
Dear Jim;
I do. I need jazz. I don't need the Who. That's just me. However, I
don't need every expression of jazz that's put out. I'm not going to try to
tell you that you should need jazz or that you should need the jazz I like.
There's something for everybody. I don't know why we seem to
during the, let us say, couple of years we have had amongst us an
actor, a writer, who knows everything, who is able to tell who
is good or bad player, who is good or bad composer, which music is
good, which is bad, how to play the baroque lute, why not to play
Kapsperger, why to worship as
As I said before, no jar of honey is complete without its blob of tar.
Love to all,
Marion
Or a drowned fly.
RT
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Dear lutenists,
during the, let us say, couple of years we have had amongst us an
actor, a writer, who knows
If I recall correctly, the Berlin Philharmonic played Beethoven's Fifth
from memory when they appeared here in Boston a few years ago. They used a
small chamber orchestra for that work.
Doesn't Renato Fasano and his Virtuosi di Wherever also play from memory?
As for Andre, I think his musicians
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Dear list,
for those interested (apart from Michael) I have put the music on my webpage
as far as it is up to now.
The final piece isn't ready yet and wll need a 10-course lute. I'll keep you
informed.
http://www.lautenist.de/rockpop1.pdf
Best wishes
Thomas
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Dear all,
Everyone obviously has their own taste in music.
However, let's not confuse like/dislike with good/bad.
There is plenty of music (and art in general) that I
can objectively recognize as good. That does not
automatically translate into personal pleasure,
though. So if you like
Yes, this is really great. I love the Scorpions addition too! I used to skip
school as a kid to go see rock concerts, especially the Scorpions. If we
skipped school we then earned the right to be right up to the stage, get our
chests pressed into a metal fence and occassionally beat up by a random
Gosh! Stuart
That's hard to argue with - unless one were to point out that the same
would hold true for any other (splinter)group of musicians - say lute
players
Joseph Mayes
From: Stuart LeBlanc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sat 4/2/2005 5:39 AM
To: lute
There are a number of lutenists that compare with other instrumental
virtuosi, and there are/were a few guitarists of that caliber too.
RT
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From: Mayes, Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gosh! Stuart
That's hard to argue with - unless one were
I am not a big jazz fan, but Strayhorn's Daydream is as great a piece of
music as anything classical.
And having The Who??? in the same paragraph is preposterous.
The only RR entity that ever could stand up to classical and be judjed
(favorably) on classical terms was KingCrimson's LIZARD.
RT
To the extent that guitarists only compare themselves to other guitarists,
they
will have no bona fides as musicians.
Is there such a thing as a Bona fide musician?
This also has it's drawbacks, guitarist's who compare themselves to bona
fides, do silly things like start transcribing,
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From: Jon Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Apr 2, 2005 3:59 AM
To: Dr. Marion Ceruti [EMAIL PROTECTED],
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Subject: Re: memorization/Re: Gallot speaks...
Wow, motion and motor - and time and
Hi,
Nice idea, but Stairway to Heaven does contain quite a few mistakes for
example in bar 8 the bass is B A A and not G A A .
best wishes
Mark
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Hi Mark,
yes - I finally found some more mistakes and will correct them.
I'll tell when I corrected them. Thanks for helping!
Best wishes
Thomas
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Hi,
Nice idea, but Stairway to Heaven does contain quite a few mistakes for
example in
Well, it says we don't know much, in fact. I'll try to write more as soon as
I have time
Donatella
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Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 1:22 AM
Subject: Re: Il Sig Napolitano
Hi- I have been playing
Thomas Schall wrote:
Dear list,
for those interested (apart from Michael) I have put the music on my webpage
as far as it is up to now.
The final piece isn't ready yet and wll need a 10-course lute. I'll keep you
informed.
http://www.lautenist.de/rockpop1.pdf
Thomas,
Thanks for this. My
Telemann wrote quartets for 4 violins, and Wagenseil wrote quartets for 4
cellos. Very fine music, especially the latter.
RT
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On a side note.. I never got this thing about 4 guitars, you don't go hear
4 pianos, 4 orchestras, ( as the
Well, normally I would consider this as too far out to engender a
reply...But...
Let's see if understand the point: You'er saying that if the lute were
to be included in every piece of music in which it could be included,
that that would be an enormous repertoire. I'll have to agree. It
I am not a big jazz fan, but Strayhorn's Daydream is as great a piece of
music as anything classical.
And having The Who??? in the same paragraph is preposterous.
The only RR entity that ever could stand up to classical and be judjed
(favorably) on classical terms was KingCrimson's LIZARD.
Please excuse - what is the relevance of the sheer quantity of repertoire? I
feel that lutenists have an vast amount of music to select from - much more
than a single player could play in his lifetime.
The 19th century guitar was very popular and there is also a lot of
repertoire. So neither
The guitar does suffer from only being included in duos with the flute,
violin, viola, 'cello, voice, piano, string quartet, and orchestra - to
More often than not in a rather cheesy fashion.
RT
name but some - so I guess you're right on both counts.
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Please excuse - what is the relevance of the sheer quantity of repertoire?
Exactly. No quantity of Carculliani will ever justify any perusal.
RT
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Roman, I'm thinking of making my own ornament of Thick As A
Brick, or Teacher, or Living in The Past All by Jerthro Tull .And
dedicating it to you.
Any ideas anyone?
JT is fine. Just no The Huh, please.
RT
Now, WHO, are you speaking of?
Michael Thames
Hey! Great you like JT, too!
Much of their music works great on lute - on baroque lute I like to play
Locomotive breath and other songs from Aqualung while Thick as a brick
doesn't work properly on a B-Lute but well on a R-Lute - I'll add excerps of
it to my rock-pop lute soon (as I hope).
On the other hand, there's some music that I know is
not of the highest artistic merit, but I enjoy anyway.
Can I really justify Black Sabbath?
Estonian medieval ensemble Rondellus did an entire CD of Black Sabbath
covers translated into Latin. No musical problems whatsoever.
RT
To get on or
Already in the early 16th century there were some pieces being written
for 7-course lute. Since at that time most lutes were 6-course this
could have been a problem. Is there any eveidence of how players dealt
with playing 7-course (or 8-course) music on a lute with only 6 courses?
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This album (Rondellus) is great! Highly recommended - we'll play spiral
architect end of april in their version :-) (or what I was able to arrange
from listening to their CD - their lutenist was willing to send me his sheets
but they never arrived.)
This one makes a great lute song - Steward
Estonian medieval ensemble Rondellus did an entire CD of Black Sabbath
covers translated into Latin. No musical problems whatsoever.
RT
No musical problems? The essential ingredient would be missing.
massive amounts of distortion. Black Sabbath with out distortion! is equal
to eating at
there are some recent interviews with martin barre
here:
http://www.guitarnoise.com/
i liked juthro tull till i saw them play live - i
think it was ian anderson's brand new blue jeans,
carefully ripped at the knee that made me loose
interest. nice guitar though ...
- bill
--- Thomas Schall
If I may presume to respond: Adapt is one writer's counsel.
Coelho, Victor Anand. Authority , autonomy, and interpretation in
17-century Italian lute music. Pp. 108-141. In: Coelho, Victor
Anand. Performance on Lute, Guitar, and Vihela. CUP: Cambridge, 1997.
Pp. 125-126
Garsi's famous
fantastic what you all take care of - I couldn't tell the clothes of those
musicians
Ian Anderson lost his voice - what's a pity but I still enjoy their live
performances because they make the best out of it and have more to offer than
to celebrate past success.
Thomas
Am Sonntag, 3.
No disrespect intended Joseph, but you might read my message again more
carefully.
If you want to know what my experience with guitar is you can take a look at
http://www.stuartleblanc.org/music.htm
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From: Mayes, Joseph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April
No disrespect intended Joseph, but you might read my message again more
carefully.
If you want to know what my experience with guitar is you can take a look at
http://www.stuartleblanc.org/music.htm
Hey, Stuart,
You have Ozu on your hero list. You just raised my hope in this country
200%!
RT
Dear Stephen,
It is always hard to get a dollar out of 99 cents. If you have fewer courses
than
the instrument for which the piece was written you can deal with it in a variety
of ways. My approach has been either to play the bass note an octave higher,
select a different inversion for the
I'm delighted we agree on that, but I would have expected you to be more excited
about Andrei Tarkovsky!
Nontheless I will sleep easily tonight, knowing that I have done my country a
great service.
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From: Roman Turovsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April
AT is too easy a choice
RT
I'm delighted we agree on that, but I would have expected you to be more
excited
about Andrei Tarkovsky!
Nontheless I will sleep easily tonight, knowing that I have done my country a
great service.
-Original Message-
From: Roman Turovsky
I'm delighted we agree on that, but I would have expected you to be more
excited
about Andrei Tarkovsky!
How 'bout Ermanno Olmi?
RT
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Nontheless I will sleep easily tonight, knowing that I have done my country a
great service.
-Original
Stuart,
I for one am excited about Tarkovsky! - a great
artist who's films are not films, but pieces of music.
(I suppose he would've argued more for poetry.)
Andrei Rublev changed my world and made me much more
serious about my art. I'm also a fan of Bresson and
Bergman.
Chris
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Thanks all for a lot of great advice. It's greatly appreciated.
I've (obviously) been doing a bit of reading. One luthier's webpage I ran
across pointed out that 6-course Renaissance music doesn't suffer horribly
on 7/8-course lutes, but that one should never even think of playing music
I remember seeing Ian Anderson on a show a few years ago called Real Time
with Bill Maher I was shocked to see how conservative he looked compared
to the wild days of the 70's. I've heard he's one of the richest men in rock
and roll.
Michael Thames
www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com
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From: Tim Beasley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Apr 2, 2005 5:35 PM
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: Newbie Question #2
Thanks all for a lot of great advice. It's greatly appreciated.
I've (obviously) been doing a bit of reading. One luthier's webpage I ran
across
Haven't seen any of his work yet, although Il Posto has been on my list for a
while. In lieu of that, Umberto D. is the most heartbreaking story I have ever
watched on film.
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From: Roman Turovsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 6:56 PM
To:
Yes, I'm trying to think of what music matches Tarkovsky... Arvo Pärt?
Bresson's work has that same spiritual quality, but far more concisely and
narratively rendered. Ockeghem? When I watch the multilayered films of Altman
and Renoir I think of fugues.
Although Bergman's films are more
I sometimes tune my 6th course down. It doesn't work for every piece, but on
a small instrument I can play a lot of 7-course music.
David
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