Antwort: Re: Willams Concert

2005-04-06 Thread thomas . schall
Didn't JW also record on a period guitar? I think I have a record when he plays concerts for guitar and orchestra on a period guitar (and also saw this performance live). Thomas "Eugene C. Braig IV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> am 04.04.2005 23:22:56 An:Lute net Kopie: Thema: Re: Willams Co

Weiss on guitar (was: Willams Concert)

2005-04-06 Thread thomas . schall
Better not! I don't think Weiss works well on a guitar. It's too idiomatic to the lute. There is a peculiar series of recordings by a certain Schneeweiss (http://www.sozialprojekte.de/klassische-musik/artist-Kurt+Schneewei%DF) who recorded much music of Weiss on guitar ("modified") .. Thomas

Re: Newbie Question #2

2005-04-06 Thread gary digman
Dear Mike; I haven't had a problem. I also play viola da gamba which has a pretty flat bridge compared to a cello. Maybe that's the reason. I think the canter of the bridge is determined by the shape of the fingerboard. My 5 string was originally built as a 5 string about 160 years ago, i

Antwort: Re: Strap Buttons

2005-04-06 Thread thomas . schall
Oh - and that's why they copied the music into manuscripts? Fantasias, passacalias and some others were improvised and seldom notated but I would have several sources telling that they played from scores, even their own music (take a look at Marpurg for example). The idea of playing from memo

Antwort: Re: Willams Concert

2005-04-06 Thread thomas . schall
does the number of tones per second is similar to quality? I always thought this could only be quantity ... curious ... Thomas "ariel abramovich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> am 05.04.2005 16:30:51 An:"Eugene C. Braig IV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Lute net" , "Roman Turovsky" <[EMAIL PROT

Re: 'Tastini' - lack of evidence

2005-04-06 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Thank you Arto. The 1584 book is paginated running to page no. 182. Pages 120 through to 175 contain only tablature with no text other than titles of the pieces: - page 155 has an intabulation of 'Non ved'il mondo'; - page 162 of 'Caronte' and 'Mentre di poggia'. In short, as you suggest,

Re: Antwort: Re: Strap Buttons

2005-04-06 Thread Ed Durbrow
Thomas wrote: >The idea of playing from memory is a development of the romantic period This is very true, but it doesn't mean that it is exclusive to the romantic period. In descriptions of masques there were places where 12 lutenists popped out of trees and played or other such spectacles. I

Re: How the 'Old Ones' held the lute

2005-04-06 Thread Ed Durbrow
> Many later baroque lutes have two buttons: one at the base and one >on the back close to the neck.I've tried this method and have >not been happy with the results - has anybosy else? Yes. Horribly unstable, but good for a 'spin' a la ZZ Top. :-) -- Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www9.p

RE: Willams Concert

2005-04-06 Thread Francesco Tribioli
> I have yet to open any of your cheesy products, > I'm not about to start now. > Michael Thames > www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com Just because I like logic: how do you know they are cheesy if you have never opened one of them? 8^) Francesco To get on or off this list see list inform

Re: How the 'Old Ones' held the lute

2005-04-06 Thread bill kilpatrick
--- Ed Durbrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes. Horribly unstable, but good for a 'spin' a la > ZZ Top. :-) video, please ... "and thus i made...a small vihuela from the shell of a creepy crawly..." - Don Gonzalo de Guerrero (1512), "Historias de la Conquista del Mayab" by Fra Joseph of S

Re: How the 'Old Ones' held the lute

2005-04-06 Thread Ed Durbrow
>--- Ed Durbrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Yes. Horribly unstable, but good for a 'spin' a la >> ZZ Top. :-) > >video, please ... Wait. I have to grow this beard a bit more. :-) -- Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ To get on or off this list see list informatio

Re: Antwort: Re: Willams Concert

2005-04-06 Thread Roman Turovsky
> does the number of tones per second is similar to quality? > I always thought this could only be quantity ... curious ... > > Thomas In some parts of the world, apparently. The Post-Colonial Cultural Theory commands that such "opinions" be given equal consideration, but I, for one, refuse to do

re:tastini

2005-04-06 Thread Wolfgang Wiehe
hello all, you=B4ll find these subjects in the 1584 fronimo facsimile on page 102ff. =84tasti inaguali nel liuto & nella viola" and on page 106 "tasti aggiunti di nuovo al liuto& loro impertinentia". greetings wolfgang w. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartm

Re: 'Tastini' - lack of evidence

2005-04-06 Thread AJN (boston)
Some of you may wish to know that the English translation by Carol MacClintock of Vincenzo Galilei's _Fronimo (1584),_ American Institute of Musicology, Musicological Studies and Documents, 39 (1985), is still available. My catalogue lists it for $64. AIM publications are distributed by A-R Editi

Re: Willams Concert

2005-04-06 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Since this has ventured into the realm of early guitar, I'm attaching the relevant address as well: At 03:03 AM 4/6/2005, you wrote: >Didn't JW also record on a period guitar? I think I have a record when he >plays concerts for guitar and orchestra on a period guitar (and also saw >this performan

Re: Willams Concert

2005-04-06 Thread Michael Thames
>> I have yet to open any of your cheesy products, >> I'm not about to start now. >> Michael Thames >> www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com >Just because I like logic: how do you know they are >cheesy if you have never >opened one of them? 8^) >Francesco Aside from the name that gave it awa

Re: How the 'Old Ones' held the lute

2005-04-06 Thread Michael Thames
The Yale Juach has an interesting feature. A metal pin is embedded through the back panel of the first pegbox. There is a photo of this on my site under Museum Photos. What you can't see from the photo, is on the back side of the pegbox, this pin is looped, in order to accommodate a strap with

Re: Weiss on guitar (was: Willams Concert)

2005-04-06 Thread Michael Thames
>Better not! I don't think Weiss works well on a guitar. It's >too idiomatic >to the lute. There is a peculiar series of recordings by a >certain >Schneeweiss (http://www.sozialprojekte.de/klassische-musik/artist-Kurt+Schneewei%DF) >who recorded much music of Weiss on guitar >("modified") .. >Thom

Re: Weiss on guitar (was: Willams Concert)

2005-04-06 Thread Markus Lutz
Hello, I'm really not sure if the guitar isn't able to play Weiss. Of course you'll have to change the bass lines and maybe other things too, but I think if someone takes care of the music and it's idiom, there is no problem. Schneeweiss doesn't count as any proof, as he really plays what he want

Re: Weiss on guitar (was: Willams Concert)

2005-04-06 Thread Michael Thames
Dear Markus, I do believe that guitarist's are probably capable of hitting all the notes, exception being the bass line. The difference seems to be the relaxed phrasing, and the ability to sustain anything longer than a millisecond. The lute or 13 string guitar has a rich sympathetic overto

Re: Weiss on guitar (was: Willams Concert)

2005-04-06 Thread Michael Thames
I do think what Lorimar is doing is a good thing in general, as it might expose the mainstream guitar world to more than just the greatest hits. Perhaps some will even consider more strings, and we all know, bigger is better. Michael Thames www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com - Original Message

Re: Weiss on guitar (was: Willams Concert)

2005-04-06 Thread Thomas Schall
Ok! let's go from the worst to the best. Our friend Per Kjetil made marvelous transcriptions for the 8-string guitar and recorded them. Maybe he's still on the list and permits to put an example piece on the net. Hi Per Kjetil! Are you there? It's really good work but still I am missing somethin

Re: Weiss on guitar (was: Willams Concert)

2005-04-06 Thread Edward Martin
In terms of Weiss on guitar, I would like to recommend a fine new recording of Weiss, on guitar, by my baroque lute duet partner, Paul Berget. This new recording is on 11 course guitar, a new invention by Terry Schumacher. It is a lightly strung classic guitar, 11 string. It is the most conv

Re: Willams Concert

2005-04-06 Thread Roman Turovsky
>>> I have yet to open any of your cheesy products, >>> I'm not about to start now. >>> Michael Thames >>> www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com > >> Just because I like logic: how do you know they are >cheesy if you have > never >> opened one of them? 8^) > >> Francesco > > Aside from the name that ga

Re: Willams Concert

2005-04-06 Thread Michael Thames
>I am saving your manly second-hand opinion for the >relevant section of http://polyhymnion.org/swv/comments.html >where it would certainly add to your well-deserved >reputation of a >culturally sensitive individual. >RT Just a non Eurocentric kind of guy, I am. >ps. >Sorry about your chronic

Re: Willams Concert

2005-04-06 Thread Roman Turovsky
>> I am saving your manly second-hand opinion for the >relevant section of > http://polyhymnion.org/swv/comments.html >> where it would certainly add to your well-deserved >reputation of a >> culturally sensitive individual. >> RT > Just a non Eurocentric kind of guy, I am. I hope your ostensibly E