[LUTE] was historical lute stringings--double first course

2007-11-05 Thread David Tayler
I played for some time an instrument with doubled first course, the spacing was very important and the sound was not good above an F. An important concern is the long trills, they rattle a bit with the thin strings. I only really prefer it on bass lute, theorbo baroque mandolin. dt

[LUTE] Re: fret stringing, was: historical lute stringings

2007-11-05 Thread David Tayler
I don't think meantone is the reason for the gut frets, I think they must have liked the sound. Just conjecture. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: dedillo

2007-11-05 Thread Doc Rossi
The beginning of this clip focuses on Carlos Paredes' right hand. http://youtube.com/watch?v=gKnO_RwGhss On Nov 2, 2007, at 11:38 AM, Ed Durbrow wrote: Yes, I got your reply yesterday. Very interesting. Did you see my response? It went like this: Thanks Doc, Ah ha! So the interesting

[LUTE] Re: )Re: Lute iconographic project - a proposal]

2007-11-05 Thread Taco Walstra
On Sunday 04 November 2007 23:10, Edward Martin rattled on the keyboard: Thanks for pointing this out, Art. As you know, I happen to live in Duluth (Minnesota, not Georgia), as does Dan Larson. As I am a lutenist who does happen to have recordings, it bothers me when my recordings are copied

[LUTE] Re: dedillo

2007-11-05 Thread Doc Rossi
a site devoted to Carlos Paredes with other views of his technique: http://www.cidadevirtual.pt/cdl/carlosparedes.html To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: So...where to find more tabs?

2007-11-05 Thread Andrew Gibbs
Sarge Gerbode's site was a useful resource - does anyone know why it's disappeared? Andrew On 5 Nov 2007, at 08:25, LGS-Europe wrote: for some songs (campion, dowland etc.) but they the site is not working for the past few days i need to download tab+lyrics to a new project. i really

[LUTE] Re: New Archlute

2007-11-05 Thread Mathias Rösel
Well, I've finally joined the realm of the giraffe wranglers. Behold my new Archlute, courtesy of Andrew Rutherford: You obviously enjoyed it, and so did I. That is a nice one. I have been surprised to see, that you hold the lute on a strap and with your right arm. It look like you're

[LUTE] Re: Poulton #73 [was] dedillo

2007-11-05 Thread G. Crona
- Original Message - From: Ron Andrico [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the fact that the piece really needs reconstruction does not help the matter. Needs reconstruction It lacks a rhythmic sign in ms. 4 and a chord at the end of ms. 20 in the facsimile, I would hardly call that needs

[LUTE] Re: New Archlute

2007-11-05 Thread David Rastall
Beautiful instrument, Daniel! Congratulations. It's good to hear Zamboni being played. I play a few of his pieces on the 10-course, occasionally having to transpose the basses up an octave. In my admittedly brief experience of performing a couple of those Zamboni sonatas, I've found that

[LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings

2007-11-05 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 05:50 PM 11/4/2007, vance wood wrote: You cannot argue with a Guitar player about fixed metal frets, especially if their only exposure to the Lute is at a distance. They have to have first hand experience with gut frets and the fineness of the sound before they start to grasp the

[LUTE] Re: Poulton #73 [was] dedillo

2007-11-05 Thread Robert Clair
Needs reconstruction It lacks a rhythmic sign in ms. 4 and a chord at the end of ms. 20 in the facsimile, I would hardly call that needs reconstruction! Everyone is, of course, free to determine their own needs, but for most people things like big 4-3 cadences that resolve on the 4th

[LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings

2007-11-05 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 06:03 PM 11/4/2007, Daniel Winheld wrote: Not all guitarists are harmonic bone heads. This guy has guitars with interchangeable fingerboards for different temperaments- and there is an Iranian guitarist (forget her name) who has jusdiciously placed tastini on her guitar for Persian microtonal

[LUTE] Xmas ensemble

2007-11-05 Thread Ed Durbrow
Any recommendations for Xmas music for violin/ viola da gamba and Ren lute/B. guit? Gig coming up in a department store in December that calls for a few Christmas tunes. Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ To get on or off this list see list

[LUTE] Re: Xmas ensemble

2007-11-05 Thread Taco Walstra
On Monday 05 November 2007 16:20, Ed Durbrow rattled on the keyboard: Any recommendations for Xmas music for violin/ viola da gamba and Ren lute/B. guit? Gig coming up in a department store in December that calls for a few Christmas tunes. Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[LUTE] Re: Xmas ensemble

2007-11-05 Thread Ed Durbrow
I should mention that this is Japan and will be a very public, general audience. Chestnuts only, I'm afraid. Just thought someone might already have some arrangements made that they found were real crowd pleasers. Like Guy said, I'll probably find something I can play and double the treble

[LUTE] Neck section in a 6 course lute

2007-11-05 Thread Luca Manassero
Dear Collective Wisdom, I need some advice on the neck section of an Italian 6 course lute. Last week I met in Milano a lutemaker who made a copy of the well-known Magno dieffopruchar lute held in the J A Beare Collection in London. I was together with a well known Italian

[LUTE] Re: Neck section in a 6 course lute

2007-11-05 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Play it like popular guitars are (and often were) commonly played: ie with the neck cradled in the V of your hand between the thumb and index finger. Indeed as violinists do. Luca Manassero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Collective Wisdom, I need some advice on the neck section of an

[LUTE] Re: was historical lute stringings--double first course

2007-11-05 Thread Daniel Winheld
I played for some time an instrument with doubled first course, the spacing was very important and the sound was not good above an F. Exactly my experience- Barber-Harris vihuela, 64.5 cm sl, doubles worked at f, no higher- (instrument as a whole craps out down at e, sounds best somewhere

[LUTE] Re: Xmas ensemble

2007-11-05 Thread bill kilpatrick
will there be two of you, swopping instruments or are there four of you? shame about the costume - what's that wire running up your arm for?!? - bill --- Ed Durbrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any recommendations for Xmas music for violin/ viola da gamba and Ren lute/B. guit? Gig coming up

[LUTE] Re: Neck section in a 6 course lute

2007-11-05 Thread Daniel Winheld
Interesting- my experience has been the exact opposite. My hybrid 6 course (Arnault de Zwolle body mated to a typical late 15th/early 16th century 8 fret 6 course fingerboard) originally had a very thin neck; extremely uncomfortable (hand cramped up) but only after about 20 minutes or so of

[LUTE] Re: Neck section in a 6 course lute

2007-11-05 Thread Guy Smith
Likewise. My alto is based on the Gerle (scaled down to 57cm). It has a thick neck, very close to a semicircle in cross section, and is very comfortable to play. Guy -Original Message- From: Daniel Winheld [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 8:25 AM To:

[LUTE] Re: Neck section in a 6 course lute

2007-11-05 Thread wikla
Dear all, I have the Magno dieffopruchar, Venice, c.1550 (collection of J A Beare Ltd, London) by Stephen Barber, and I very much like the shape of of the neck of that instrument. I suppose Stephen made it just as it is in the original. And as Martyn wrote, the shape of my left hand around

[LUTE] Re: Neck section in a 6 course lute

2007-11-05 Thread wikla
I wrote I have the Magno dieffopruchar, Venice, c.1550 (collection of J A Beare Ltd, London) by Stephen Barber, and I very much like the shape of of the neck of that instrument. I suppose Stephen made it just as it is in the original. And as Martyn wrote, the shape of my left hand

[LUTE] Re: Poulton #73 [was] dedillo

2007-11-05 Thread G. Crona
O.K. Ron, I took the time to compare your version with the original, because this is a piece close to my heart. The original is for 7 courses. You rearrange it for 8 course lute. You introduce dotted notes in places before where the facsimile seems to have a dot over some ciphers. I don't quite

[LUTE] Re: Neck section in a 6 course lute

2007-11-05 Thread Denys Stephens
Dear Luca, There is an excellent article by Stephen Barber on the Beare collection Dieffopruchar lute in 'The Lute' (Lute Society Journal) 1982, volume XXII Part 2. I believe that his drawings of the original continue to be available, and they are likely to be the starting point used by makers who

[LUTE] Re: Xmas ensemble

2007-11-05 Thread LGS-Europe
There's an edition with Christmas songs for mixed instrumental by Ton Koopman (yes, him). I'm afraid mostly Dutch songs, nihongo kunai. I'd go for some English carols and Praetorius, easy for both performers and audience. David - Original Message - From: Ed Durbrow [EMAIL PROTECTED]