Dear all,
I wonder if his name has something to do with the city of Visé, north east of
Liège in Belgium?
The dutch name is WEZET but in the Walloon language it is called Vizé.
According to wikipedia in french, it has a long history
It would add another lute/baroque guitar composer to our coun
What I find interesting in all this (Satoh’s exercise) is why De Visée needs to
be foreign. Is this to align him with Lully (the Italian)? In the light of the
long tradition of lute playing in France, making De Visée foreign does not seem
to elevate his status. In fact, historical writers in som
Well that is possible I suppose. It may even account for the fact that
Castillion - who hied from Liege - copied the whole of De Visee's 1682 into
his earlier manuscript now in the Liege Conservatoire. But that is just my
imagination and conjecture and not based on any surviving documents..
Well - Portugal is next door to Spain and shares its "exotic" reputation and
supposed affinity to the guitar.
But De Visee was primarily a lutenist and as you say there was long
tradition of playing the lute in France. It is much more likely that he
was - well French - and learnt the lute fr
Hi Ed
I do whatever is needed and possible.
This weekend I had rehearsals with a viol and a cembalo. I brought a
10-course in g and theorbo in a. Yesterday the cembalo was in Valotti,
of which I am no fan and we ran into some problems (combined
Renaissance & Baroque programme, fla
Maybe Visée first met Louis XIV who stayed in Vizé for a couple of days in the
then famous "Maison Houbart" in 1672 and 1675, during the Franco-Dutch War...
He was with the musketeer d'Artagnan who got killed in 1673 during the siege of
Maastricht.
Real facts but the rest is pure conjecture and
The trail is getting hotter
Enjoy your day of rest
Monica
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From: "Jean-Marie Poirier"
To: "Greet Schamp" ; "Monica Hall"
; "Martyn Hodgson"
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Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: De Visee
Maybe Visée first met Louis
Monica is quite right in pointing out that de Visee was never Louis XIV's
official guitar teacher, which brings up another question. It has been years
since I looked into the matter, but I find this in my notes. Perhaps someone
can remind me of the Benoit citation. It identifies de la Salle as S
On Sun, 2 Mar 2014 15:06:29 +0100, Jean-Marie Poirier wrote
> Maybe Visée first met Louis XIV who stayed in Vizé for a couple of
> days in the then famous "Maison Houbart" in 1672 and 1675, during
> the Franco-Dutch War... He was with the musketeer d'Artagnan who got
> killed in 1673 during the sie
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I can only tell you what James Tyler has said in his book "The guitar and
its music" (2002) p. 108 as I don't have a copy of Benoit.
Jourdan de la Salle had been Louis XIVs' "Maitre de guittarre" at least
since 1650 and
he died in 1695. He was then succeeded by his son Louis who died in 1620.
Marcelle Benoit quotes a document of 1695 from the Archives Nationales where
the surviving papers of the royal household are kept. It is from the
"Secrétariat de la Maison du Roi" and on march 14th 1695, f° 38v in the series
O.1 39 there is this allusion to Jourdan :
"Retenüe de joüeur de guitar
Thank you for this, Jean-Marie. Precisely the information I was looking for. I
remember examining the Marcelle Beboit volumes in the Stanford library years
ago. Louis XIV did indeed have some ability on the guitar from contemporary
accounts, and Voltaire is later said to have stated that the onl
>On French-Spanish relationships, it might be worth pointing out that Louis'
>mother, Anne of Austria, in spite of her name, was a Spanish Habsburg, >the
>daughter of King Philip III. Furthermore, Louis married the Infanta, Maria
>Teresa, daughter of Philip IV of Spain. In his biography of Louis
On Mar 1, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Christopher Wilke wrote:
> before you know it, it's a "known fact" that de Visee was from
> Portugual.
My offhand remark that started this thread was based on a "known fact" that I
gleaned from the liner notes of a Segovia LP (you may commence giggling), when
I w
Many many thanks for all this fascinating information. Jourdan must have
been quite an important person in Louis' household. I have only one
comment - Corbetta died in 1681 so he can't have succeeded Jourdon in 1695
and in any case he spent most of his last 20 years in England although he
vis
After the remarks made about Satoh's liner notes, I hate to cite any others,
but in Philippe Beaussant's rather poignant notes to Hopkison Smith's Pieces de
Theorbe (Astree 7733), claim is made that Corbetta became known to Louis when
Lully had the two play together in le Ballet de la Galanterie
On 02/03/14 7:56 PM, Peter Danner wrote:
Incidentally, it was while performing the Te Deum written to
celebrate Louis' recovery from this illness that Lully suffered the
wound that caused his death.
Oh no...I fear we're next going to learn that the tale of Lully's death
from gangrene brought a
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