Sarmaticae:
I listen to some of these melodies and they are very unique and mysterious
sounding.
I find it amazing to have the chance to hear something similar to the original
melodies
that ispired such musical geniouses like Moussorgki...
Great site, great compilation!!
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Re: Jon
On this site there are quite a few instruments depicted, from several centuries:
http://www.musicologie.org/galerie/galerie_1.html
and textes too. Like see this manuel d'harmonique:
http://www.musicologie.org/theses/nicomaque_01.html
see the other menues too, looks like may have loads of things!
Thanks for sharing Alfonso!--it's been great pleasure listening to
your recorded tracks!
Nice playing and beautiful voice of your partner!
i would just slightly slow down a little bit, but that's
only my personal taste--i like slightly slower so that when one may
want to purposefully speed some
Steve wrote:
My first thought when looking at this lute was it sure looked like my Paki
lute.
The lute on the ebay site is very similar to mine. As i mentioned i got mine
from
EMS. I was to buy the same thing in kit first but didn't have too much
kit-time.
This is the picture of the lute as
On shaving the bridge--recently made this guitar/lutepegbox thing and at one
point had to shave about 1mm from the bridge--i didn't do it for the sound but
for some mechanical obstacle, but the result was very surprising! The
resonation responsiveness of the guitar augmented to what seem to me
This lute, i'm pretty sure, is a lute by the EMS (early music shop?) in
England. My lute is from there and it is pretty similar. I got it fro eight
hundred and something euro, shiping included.
It has extremely sweet sound and is very responsive (at least mine is like
that)! The finishing is
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you give me an index of the authors? Which authors are having 10 or more
songs in it?
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Von: rosinfiorini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 29. Dezember 2004 00:35
An: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
hi Jon, i tried several times to post this Re. to your
message but it came up messed with things and numbers.
a try one last time-for whatever it is worth-haha:)
Whatever I can show on the sillyscope or prove as to the effects of
spinning bodies or conical strings on the actual tone production
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There is a difference between strings and wind instruments
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:) you bet there is..i meantioned the idea of conical strings for fun (i grab
ideas from infinity).
My interest of this is in the context of spinning bodies: if one gives to one
part of a body a
speed and to another part zero
Just finished the other day this drawing, same
name as the song from Dowland, called 'Time Stands Still':
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/raydimitry/imagini/timestandstill.jpg
Sometime ago i remember writing to some poster here
about how shamans consider mass, momentum, inertia, to
depend on the rate
i typed on google the place-name (or whatever it is) that they site and it
shows it as Croation. the author name gives no returns.
They seem to have double standards?(the split fretting for the bass)
- Original Message -
From: bill kilpatrick
To: lute list
Sent: Thursday,
27N isn't that too thin? and wouldn't it be a little loose? (unless you
want your 63 cm lute tuned to G..?)
If it were up to me, i'd tune a 63 cm lute to F or lower with nothing
thinner than 0.37 mm for the chaterelle. but, all kinds of tastes...
What if strings were not cilindrical but conical,
My apologies to Mathias. I missed your earlier message, because it
was marked SPAM by my server. I would like to think that the server
was particularly adept at picking up badly spelt rude words in
German :-), but unfortunately it marks many innocent Lute Net
messages as Spam. Not only
I found none of these topics a nuisance, but that vile and ubiquitous
appellation for what used to be called sailing vessels does make my
stomach heave slightly :)
David Cameron
Probably you must go down to the sea again, to the lonely seas and the sky,
And all you need is a sailing vessel
detail of 12 course lute with bridge and rosette:
--and don't come and tell me about how it shouldn't 12 course, but either 11
or 13,
and that in google they said lutes are not supposed to be green, etc
:)))
http://home.clara.net/lucypringle/photos/2004/uk2004bp.html
By the way, how many lutenists does it take to change a light bulb?
Well, at least ten of them: one to measure the rim and see if the light bulb
fits exactly or if it is let's say one tenth of mm (one inch = 250 mm) too
big or too small, the second to measure how far the light might
You forgot the 11th, who would harp on how druids would wound tungsten coil
on carbonfiber, and tell a tale about the 9th century light-bulb in
Waterford that was so bright it could be seen in Dunfanaghy.
RT
oh, but of course--no problem--Ancient Egypt light bulb:
Up to the 1930-ies it was common thing that telegraph and telephone used no
batteries appart from the permanent...Earth Batteries. Thanks to people like
Stubblefield (who's knowledge is carefully supressed nowadays).
Stubblefield drew electricity from the ground with very simple devices and had
i found this thought brilliant:
i read recently that the process of history really got
underway when mirrors became affordable to everyone.
until then it was impossible - literally - to properly
see one'self as anything distinctly different.
By chance I red recently in this book (in PC
It may be question of personal way of feeling things, but in my case,
when i play the guitar with (double) high tension, thicker than the lute
strings,
to overcome dull muffled sound i pass really quickly and swiftly across the
string at hand. The only thing to be avoided for such playing is
Hello Jon, i'm glad you found these ideas interesting.
I personally am not too familiar
with Einstein (they are not very empirical--they mostly deal with mental
inventory items--
arrange them in 'mathematically' correct way-formulas--but no practice) but i
know
that he had his attention on
Are you trying to say that shamans had aluminum?? FYI temperatures
necessary to obtain aluminum were out of reach until almost 1900.
RT
hehe, i don't know if they had, but the aluminium disk phenomenon was observed
in the laboratory of some guy (probably in England). I saw it in a
Q: How many druids does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
A: Say a dozen. One holds the bulb and everyone drinks mead 'till the room
spins.
haha, i never thought they knew such tricks! i though they were to turn the
table with the bulb-guy and all:)
--
I doubt the druids could spin fast enough to change the fabric of
things.
.i don't know druids, they are so much romanticised but very little knowledge
from them
must be still passing, but the ones in ancient mexico used sound vibration. If
they would do it with spinning they only needed an
In a message dated 12/14/2004 6:38:46 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I bet a lot of lute-netters have a classical guitar laying around in its
case. I wonder what solutions have been invented to play the guitar
without maintaining fingernails:
Hi David,
I have a
to do with genuine creativity, human affection or any
originality whatsoever..eat McArnold(lol).
Go and start the NEW AMERICAN RENAISSANCE! (we should make a bumper sticker)
Its up to you:):):) it won't drop from the sky or from europe.
rosinfiorini:
(rather the Medicis than Savanarola-lol
Windows media Player 10.0 has a function of slowing the piece
without altering the original pitch: even very fast passages become
clear
tlking about the new media player, i have real hard time to find the radio
tunner. i had to return to the 9.0 version (thousands of stations worldwide).
Dear ppl, recently i adapted this guitar to a six course instrument (not very
refined visually:)
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/raydimitry/imagini/coursesix.jpg
To whoever may want to make something similar or who is curious how such a
thing would sound,
i recorded a short piece-soundfile here:
Dear Howard, it's like you are saying, hey, it's mathematically incorrect,
the dates, etc. Or the equasion doesn't work. :) I try to explain what i
mean, just below your quoted post.
While I find these remarks insightful -- except for the part about the
dominance of the religious and
NC is the biggest senile idiot that ever lived, and thank the Allah that he
doesn't get any more airtime.
RT
*
oh, really, and why this judgement? do you think he doesn't get air time
because he is 'senile' idiot, or because of other reasons?
i've listen to him on arecording talking about
yeah, just red it complete-really interesting--almost temting one to try make a
set or too:) there's lots of drying and waiting too, and lots of subtle feeling
and skill-twisting, temperatures etc.
Just when i red this now i remembered something i had forgotten about: some
time ago we were at
Here is this interesting article i came across--about hte process of gut string
making:
http://www.daniellarson.com/article.htm
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Hi Stewart,
This is a page with a few:
http://www.italianfolkmusic.com/xmas.html
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Early colonial life was hard! The early English and Spanish colonies in
North America were not characterized by much musical cultural growth, and
there is little evidence of lute playing or making in those times. Musical
instruments (lutes included) tended to get left at home by
Did you ever stop to think what this
world would be without America as has evolved?=20
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America has not Evolved--Ray Bradbury has evolved, kurt Vonnegut has evolve=
d, even Bruce Springsteen has evolved, Norman Mailer may-be too, Tom Waits =
(hehe) etc, etc, you name 'em, there so many but
A shadow?. Sorry, I don't see what you're seeing.
http://www.thecipher.com/viol_TimoteoViti_c1500Madonna-italy.jpg
you're saying one of those bridge objects in the Viti is the shadow of the
other?
I'm glad you recognized that viol as family (familiar) when you played it
;') The scenario
A shadow?. Sorry, I don't see what you're seeing.
http://www.thecipher.com/viol_TimoteoViti_c1500Madonna-italy.jpg
you're saying one of those bridge objects in the Viti is the shadow of the
other?
*
*
Actually, i forgto the Viti pictur a little and now that i see it again i
wouldn't
Normally people like you give away free bibles. How
about a free viol? :-)
Stephan
Would be cool. Like i was thinking recently, what if America was not conquered
and developed under the sign of stiff puritans but by the Italians (without the
Savanarola part though-hehe)just when
Here, this they say is the oldest painting where they portray viola (its from
quatro cento towards end i think). Link:
http://www.mdw.ac.at/I105/orpheon/Seiten/education/OldestVioladagamba.htm
Here is a page with lots of old viola bridges and they are pretty consistent.
Looks like the second
Hello dear ppl, i've put recently this page with songs i mixed up recently. You
can listen to entire songs here:
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/raydimitry/lovesongs.htm
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SAN FRANCISCO -- When artist Brian Goggin talks about transforming a 30-foot
wooden boat into the world's biggest lute, he envisions the instrument's
appearing one day in distant ports as a musical envoy for San Francisco.
..
Musical Boat..this reminds me of John Keely's flying
Dear ppl, i'm sure most of you are aware of this: that the string action on the
lute is not exactly equal to the distance between the surface and height of the
holes on the bridge but gets pulled higher by the ballance of the two forces-of
the loop and the peg.
So, in my case, i have the
much more from the right side
view. I like the drawing though, doesn't matter the faults :))
Hi Rosinfiorini;
let me just clearify that the problem with the bridge in general, and the
way you've connected those dots, is that this artist _knows_ how to draw
good perspective. If you look
If I were to draw Viti=92s pegbox in a correct perspective, I=92d draw it l=
ike this:
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/raydimitry/imagini/Violapeg.jpg
but this is only my five-minutes/fifty cents (sleepy) scratch =96about thre=
e times faster than what it took to draw this trash with the mouse yesterd=
They tried to taxonomize us
all, and put us into little categories. Hey, I'm not a category, I'm what I
am. I've got my MTV and can relate!
I rather hope that we both have a bit of humor in our humor.
yeah, absolutely, Jon:) humour would make us survive the invasion of the
machines--they
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- Original Message -
From: rosinfiorini
To:
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:32 PM
Subject: guitar to lute
i'm waiting for a renaissance lute 8c to arrive but in the meantime made
this to get fingers used to the feel of double strings.
In case someone may like to make something
.in the end (hell, i should have made up my mind to type all these crams into a
single message, sorry!) the guitar strings are distributed like this:
Mi6 La5 Re4 Sol(bem)3 Si2
Mi1
Sol3 Si2 Mi1 Sol(bem)3
Hi, if i were the lil angel in this
picture(http://www.thecipher.com/viol_TimoteoViti_c1500Madonna-italy.jpg), the
dark stripe that you see parallel to the bridge wouldn't be a second bridge but
a stripe/piece of cloth intertwined in the strings portions after the bridge to
prevent them from
If you want to see how ancient metal wire can be take a look at these lovely
gold and copper spirals (ortodox scientists are not very exited about people
knowing about these findings, by the way).
Ancient nanotechnology. In 1991-1993, gold prospectors on the Narada river on
the eastern side of
hehe, yeah--finally i think i start to understand what they meant by
super-string theory
In a message dated 11/30/2004 3:09:30 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
http://www.mystae.com/streams/science/russcrew2.html
Clearly the result of ancient Celts operating a Celtic
(Scyld is translated into English as shield, and a varient is used in the
military descriptions of the Scot's tactics against the English, (can't
remember how to spell it, something like Skyldron meaning shield wall - a
rather less organized parallel to the ancient phalanx of the Greeks and
i'm waiting for a renaissance lute 8c to arrive but in the meantime made this
to get fingers used to the feel of double strings.
In case someone may like to make something similar (like you have these many
course lutes but want a six course, etc) here is the photo. the thing works
very fine,
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