[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-08 Thread Jarosław Lipski
ng (writing) metaphorically, as was the custom. > > RA > __ > > From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu <lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu> on behalf > of Jarosław Lipski <jaroslawlip...@wp.pl> > Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 8:56 PM > To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu >

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-07 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Au moins cette intéressante discussion aura permis à Göran de montrer sa maîtrise de la langue française ;-) ! Bien Amicalement, Jean-Marie > Le 7 févr. 2018 à 23:36, G. C. a écrit : > > Right, so all we other lutenetters interested in this should just keep > hanging.

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-07 Thread G. C.
Right, so all we other lutenetters interested in this should just keep hanging. Tres bien. That's the way! Ce est le route? G. On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 11:20 PM, Jean-Marie Poirier <[1]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr> wrote: Jaroslaw I do agree with you and the study of past mentalities

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-07 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Jaroslaw I do agree with you and the study of past mentalities and culture has been my daily bread for the last 35 years or so. I know exactly what you are talking about.. Let’s leave it here as you suggested in your email and thank you for your very well informed contribution. All the best,

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-07 Thread G. C.
BTW. I never wrote that Jacques Gaultier was related to Enemond, so don't know were is this supposition from⦠That is from: On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 5:50 AM, Ron Andrico <[1]praelu...@hotmail.com> wrote: Speaking of Thurston Dart, I always return to his article, "Miss Mary

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2018-02-07 Thread Jarosław Lipski
Jean-Marie, This is a vast subject for a long debate. To judge a man’s behaviour from 17th century and predict probability of its consequences is not a trivial matter. As historian Miles Fairborn says that: „impossible, strange and bizarre are less so when placed in their proper context. This

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-06 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Just a reminder : Jacques Gaultier fled to England c. 1617 because he had murdered a noble man on the Continent. As early as 1618 he was imprisoned in the Tower of London for no clear reason... He got away with it and managed to get appointed as one of Henriette-Marie's musicians in 1625 and

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-06 Thread G. C.
NB: Jacques Gaultier was not a relative of Ennemond or Denis. For pieces in Cherbury also listen to Jacob Lindberg's "Jacobean Lute Music" BIS-2055 (2013) G. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

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2018-02-05 Thread Jarosław Lipski
; RA > __ > > From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu <lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu> on behalf > of G. C. <kalei...@gmail.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 12:59 PM > To: Lutelist > Subject: [LUTE] Re:

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book - Gautier Son adieu

2018-02-04 Thread Stephan Olbertz
: Freitag, 2. Februar 2018 19:51 An: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book - Gautier Son adieu Am 02.02.2018 um 19:04 schrieb Alain Veylit: > I could not find the references to Cherbury on Peter Stueur's site > alas... (I wonder if the Vorhandene Manuskripte table

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2018-02-04 Thread G. C.
@ Google books, some more info on Jacques Gaultier from the 2013 Utrecht lute symposium. Article by Matthew Spring starts on page 120. Unfortunately, the last few pages of the article are not displayed. [1]https://books.google.no/books?id=Aev6DAAAQBAJ=PA125=PA125=

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book - Gautier Son adieu

2018-02-03 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
They Montmorency family JM > Le 3 févr. 2018 à 20:19, G. C. a écrit : > > I forgot, there is a lengthy passage in Mathew Spring's book about this > matter. And also interesting is, that there is a connection with lord > Herbert and Ennemond with the Mont...(?) family.

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-03 Thread Alain Veylit
ow - see [1]http://www.ramesescats.co.uk/thesis/App1c.pdf Matteo -- Forwarded message -- From: Matteo Turri <[2]matteo.o.tu...@gmail.com> Date: 3 February 2018 at 17:19 Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book To: "G. C." <[3]kalei...@gmail.com>

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book - Gautier Son adieu

2018-02-03 Thread G. C.
I forgot, there is a lengthy passage in Mathew Spring's book about this matter. And also interesting is, that there is a connection with lord Herbert and Ennemond with the Mont...(?) family. G. [1]https://www.antiquestradegazette.com/news/2016/jacobean-miniature-

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2018-02-03 Thread Arthur Ness
Feb 3, 2018 12:33 pm Subject: [LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book - Gautier Son adieu > You are quoting what Thurston Dart wrote in 1957. But Jean-Marie has > convincingly mentioned the letter which proved that lord Herbert was > involved in trying to get Jacques extr

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book - Gautier Son adieu

2018-02-03 Thread Jarosław Lipski
> You are quoting what Thurston Dart wrote in 1957. But Jean-Marie has > convincingly mentioned the letter which proved that lord Herbert was > involved in trying to get Jacques extradited back to France and > therefore "would not likely collect music by him". Of course, this is a > bit

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-03 Thread Matteo Turri
m> Date: 3 February 2018 at 17:19 Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book To: "G. C." <[3]kalei...@gmail.com> Cc: lutelist Net < ââ [4]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Interestingly, this references at [5]https://w1.bnu.fr/smt/sommaire.htm lists 245 pie

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2018-02-03 Thread Matteo Turri
Interestingly, this references at [1]https://w1.bnu.fr/smt/sommaire.htm lists 245 pieces: CATALOGUE DES SOURCES MANUSCRITES EN TABLATURE Luth et théorbe c.1500-c.1800 Catalogue descriptif / A

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book - Gautier Son adieu

2018-02-03 Thread G. C.
Dear Jaroslaw, You are quoting what Thurston Dart wrote in 1957. But Jean-Marie has convincingly mentioned the letter which proved that lord Herbert was involved in trying to get Jacques extradited back to France and therefore "would not likely collect music by him". Of course, this

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book - Gautier Son adieu

2018-02-03 Thread Jarosław Lipski
Most probably Gauthier refers to Jacques Gaultier d’Angleterre. After killing his opponent in a duel Gaultier came to England in 1617. He was a member of King’s Musick beginning with 1619 until 1648. Although Lord Herbert traveled both to France and Rome he returned to London in 1617, so he had

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-03 Thread G. C.
Track list from O'Dette's CD / Piece number Veylit's edition) 1. 112 2. 119 3. 127 4. 130 5. 121 6. 105 7. 199 8. 146 9. 143 10. 144 11. 196 12. 217 13. 209 14. 225 15. 227 16. 35 17. 39 18. 70

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-02 Thread Tristan von Neumann
'origine   De : Dan Winheld <[2]dwinh...@lmi.net>   Date : 18-02-01 8:44 PM (GMT-05:00)   À : Susan Sandman <[3]susan.sand...@gmail.com>, Tristan von Neumann   <[4]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de>   Cc : lutelist Net <[5]lute@cs.dartmouth.e

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2018-02-02 Thread Tristan von Neumann
...@gmail.com>, Tristan von Neumann <[4]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> Cc : lutelist Net <[5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Objet : [LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book They are legalizing Marijuana all over the place, come to California if you

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-02 Thread Tristan von Neumann
m>, Tristan von Neumann <[4]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> Cc : lutelist Net <[5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Objet : [LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book They are legalizing Marijuana all over the place, come to California if you want to get stoned! (I gave up that litt

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book - Gautier Son adieu

2018-02-02 Thread Alain Veylit
Thanks everyone for your quick responses - all of it very useful. Jean-Marie, il y a encore une grosse zone d'obscurite et je ne mettrais pas ma main au feu sur cette attribution. J'ai fini par trouver 5 concordances sur le site de Peter. L'attribution a Gothier dans un des manuscrits n'aide

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book - Gautier Son adieu

2018-02-02 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
About l'Adieu by Ennemond Gaultier, I forgot to say that the later version in D minor is not related to the version in Cherbury, key nor style. Jean-Marie -- > Pondering about the Gautier pieces in Cherbury/concordances: I was not > able to determine if the Courante "Son

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book - Gautier Son adieu

2018-02-02 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
L'Adieu is not in Vaudry, it is in Oxford Bodleian Library G. 618 f° 24. Jean-Marie -- > Pondering about the Gautier pieces in Cherbury/concordances: I was not > able to determine if the Courante "Son adieu" in Cherbury and the one > in Vaudry Sayzenay are the same one...

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book - Gautier Son adieu

2018-02-02 Thread Markus Lutz
Am 02.02.2018 um 19:04 schrieb Alain Veylit: I could not find the references to Cherbury on Peter Stueur's site alas... (I wonder if the Vorhandene Manuskripte table could be given its own page with more descriptive titles associated with the sources numbers...) Alain Hi

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book - Gautier Son adieu

2018-02-02 Thread Alain Veylit
Pondering about the Gautier pieces in Cherbury/concordances: I was not able to determine if the Courante "Son adieu" in Cherbury and the one in Vaudry Sayzenay are the same one... Actually I was not able to locate that piece in the Vaudry de Sayzenay, but there is a recording of a

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-02 Thread Rainer
n Sandman; Tristan von Neumann; lutelist Net Subject: [LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book Wasn't Dowland fired by King Christian of Denmark for being drunk all the time? Could it be then considered that playing ‘stoned' was more ‘authentic'? To get on or off this list see li

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2018-02-02 Thread Roman Turovsky
Date : 18-02-01 8:44 PM (GMT-05:00) À : Susan Sandman <[3]susan.sand...@gmail.com>, Tristan von Neumann <[4]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> Cc : lutelist Net <[5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Objet : [LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book They are

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2018-02-02 Thread G. C.
And Jacob Reys (1545 - 1605) "never played so well as when he was drunk" according to contemporary documents. No reports of any "stoned" luteplayers though, although they have apparently found traces of both coca and hemp in pipes in Shakespeares home (if this is not just another

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-02 Thread John Mardinly
lt;[5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Objet : [LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book They are legalizing Marijuana all over the place, come to California if you want to get stoned! (I gave up that little distraction decades ago, but I also much prefer Ballard). :-D Dan On 2

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-02 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
.sand...@gmail.com>, Tristan von Neumann > <tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> > Cc : lutelist Net <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> > Objet : [LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book > > They are legalizing Marijuana all over the place, come to California if > you want to get stoned! (I

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-02 Thread Tristan von Neumann
nh...@lmi.net> Date : 18-02-01 8:44 PM (GMT-05:00) À : Susan Sandman <susan.sand...@gmail.com>, Tristan von Neumann <tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> Cc : lutelist Net <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Objet : [LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book They are legalizing Marijuana all

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2018-02-02 Thread fournierbru
De : Dan Winheld <dwinh...@lmi.net> Date : 18-02-01 8:44 PM (GMT-05:00) À : Susan Sandman <susan.sand...@gmail.com>, Tristan von Neumann <tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> Cc : lutelist Net <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Objet : [LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book They

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2018-02-02 Thread G. C.
I was not aware of lord Herbert's Jacques Gaultier extradition letter (found on Alain's site). The fact that some of the pieces have concordances in both Besard (1603) and Varietie (1610), also exclude Jacques. By the way, Alain, you should look at the concordances by Peter Steur

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-02 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
We do learn at all ages indeed ;-)! Au passage, thank you Alain for all your hard work so useful to all of us ! Jen-Marie > Le 2 févr. 2018 à 11:10, G. C. a écrit : > > I was not aware of lord Herbert's Jacques Gaultier extradition letter > (found on Alain's site). The

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-01 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Marijuana notwithstanding ;-), Ballard and Gaultier’s parallel lives and careers are quite symptomatic of the change of style and technique which characterized their time. Ballard was lucky to have a brother who was a royal printer, which gave him access to the select world of printed edition,

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2018-02-01 Thread Matteo Turri
Apropos recordings of (pieces from) the manuscript: Jacques Le Polonois : Pièces de luth (AEvitas AE-12157, December 2015) [1]https://www.discogs.com/Various-Jacques-Le-Polonois-Pièces- de-luth/release/7752681 by Paul Kieffer has the highest number of recordings from

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-01 Thread Alain Veylit
te@cs.dartmouth.edu" [6]<lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2018, 18:54 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book Chris, I agree with Ron. I use both digital and book format music and have been waiting to buy the Cherbury ms since I first heard about it

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-01 Thread Dan Winheld
They are legalizing Marijuana all over the place, come to California if you want to get stoned! (I gave up that little distraction decades ago, but I also much prefer Ballard). :-D Dan On 2/1/2018 5:15 PM, Susan Sandman wrote: Stoning is medieval, appropriate only hundreds of years

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-01 Thread Susan Sandman
Stoning is medieval, appropriate only hundreds of years before... Susan On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 6:46 PM Tristan von Neumann <[1]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> wrote: Do I get stoned by the community if I say that I like Ballard more anyway? :) Am 02.02.2018 um 00:36 schrieb

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-01 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Do I get stoned by the community if I say that I like Ballard more anyway? :) Am 02.02.2018 um 00:36 schrieb Jean-Marie Poirier: En guise de conclusion ;-) : If you look at the chronological development of Ennemond’s career and life, his “his high reputation” as a baroque lute super hero

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-01 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
En guise de conclusion ;-) : If you look at the chronological development of Ennemond’s career and life, his “his high reputation” as a baroque lute super hero simply doesn’t hold. So there must be other material around to explain this phenomenon. Cherbury is only one piece in the puzzle and

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-01 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
:-) ! > Le 1 févr. 2018 à 22:53, G. C. a écrit : > > PS. > And of course, I meant to say "you and Jean-Marie" SORRY! :D > On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 10:27 PM, G. C. <[1]kalei...@gmail.com> wrote: > >Great that you feel that way, Ron. I'm just saying, that >

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-01 Thread G. C.
PS. And of course, I meant to say "you and Jean-Marie" SORRY! :D On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 10:27 PM, G. C. <[1]kalei...@gmail.com> wrote: Great that you feel that way, Ron. I'm just saying, that comparing to what there is of real quality music for the lute out there,

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-01 Thread G. C.
Great that you feel that way, Ron. I'm just saying, that comparing to what there is of real quality music for the lute out there, and trying to keep in mind, the "high reputation" of Ennemond Gaultier, I'm sadly, not at all impressed by these alleged simple courantes and voltas in

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-01 Thread G. C.
Thanks a lot Peter! and for all your work. Fantastic! In this matter, I still register / The following numbers apply: 88-no concordances 101-no concordances 102-no concordances 107-2 concordances 109-no concordances 119-no concordance 120-2 concordances 127-2

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-01 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
iates.com> > To: Ron Andrico [2]<praelu...@hotmail.com>; [3]"lute...@aol.com" > [4]<lute...@aol.com>; [5]"lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" > [6]<lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> > Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2018, 18:54 > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book >

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-01 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Thank you for you excellent and very useful work Peter! All the best, Jean-Marie Poirier Le 1 févr. 2018 à 21:14, Petrus Paulus Maria Steur <[1]p.st...@inrim.it> a écrit : Dear all, some of you might have a look at my enlarged website [2]mss.slweiss.de where the

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-01 Thread Petrus Paulus Maria Steur
Dear all, some of you might have a look at my enlarged website [1]mss.slweiss.de where the Cherbury is already present with a lot of concordances (hopefully all correct). Peter Steur Mail priva di virus. [2]www.avg.com 2018-02-01 21:00 GMT+01:00 Jean-Marie Poirier

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-01 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Dear Göran, There is already quite a bit of work done by John H. Robinson regarding a number of pieces by Gaultier. It was the subject of a publication for the Lute Society back in 1997, a music supplement entitled Music in Vieil Ton by Gauthier. Not everything is there but it's a good starting

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-01 Thread G. C.
Dear Ron, I have the 1966 CNRS edition. Nowhere in it, is the L. Herbert mentioned, other than in the "Table des Sigles". No concordances. Do I have a too old edition? I find, that the quality of these short pieces in Cherbury are unfortunately in no way convincing! Kindly

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-01 Thread G. C.
Dear Jean Marie, I beg to differ about the quality of these little sketches, but look forward to an informed edition with the "motorized" versions. In the meantime it would be helpful with a concordance list for these short Gaultier pieces in the old tuning. Best wishes G.

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-01 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Dear Göran, I do certainly lean towards Ennemond, and most probably not Jacques, as Cherbury did not support the latter after he sought refuge in England to escape the King's justice and a certain death for the murder of a noble man in France ! Sorry Thurston ;-) ! In my recent article in the

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2018-02-01 Thread Rainer
I had the privilege of viewing and handling Dd.2.11 and Dd.5.78.3 in Cambridge. I went to the library with Ian Harwood who had discovered that Holmes was the scribe of these and other manuscripts and was, of course, well known. I did not have to wear gloves and it was allowed to open the

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-01 Thread G. C.
When looking at the Gaultier pieces in Cherbury, I recall a recent discussion on the possibility of these being by Ennemond in vieil ton. All these pieces are very short and I must say rather pedestrian, and not indicative of the great fame of Ennemond. Thurston Dart in his 1957

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-01 Thread Arthur Ness
From: Leonard Williams <arc...@verizon.net> To: lute <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Wed, Jan 31, 2018 4:45 pm Subject: [LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book I had the honor (privelege?) of viewing and handling the Capirola Ms at the Newberry in Chicago. No real special precautions.

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-01 Thread Martin Shepherd
Just to add my voice to the chorus of people saying real books are important and easier to use.  I have all the content of the Cherbury MS (ancient faded photocopy), but I'm really interested in all the notes and concordances as well as having a nice clear copy (preferably hardback).  I have

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-02-01 Thread Martyn Hodgson
tmail.com>; "lute...@aol.com" <lute...@aol.com>; "lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2018, 18:54 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book Chris, I agree with Ron. I use both digital and book format music and ha

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2018-01-31 Thread Magnus Andersson
On a personal note, I don ´t think I ´d have been able to see the Dresden mss of Weiss last year hadn ´t it been for a personal connection at the SLUB. It was so interesting to see letters in the tablature that have gone missing in the scanning process. I had the same

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-01-31 Thread Peter Danner
Arthur’s comment on the answer Bob Spencer got from the FWM librarian about the Cherbury manuscript reminds me of my own experience at the Fitzwilliam when my wife, daughter and I visited Cambridge in 1978. I had casually popped into the Fitzwilliam (around the corner from our hotel) one

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-01-31 Thread Leonard Williams
-Original Message- From: John Mardinly <john.mardi...@asu.edu> To: Arthur Ness <arthurjn...@verizon.net> Cc: spiffys84121 <spiffys84...@cs.dartmouth.edu>; lute <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Wed, Jan 31, 2018 2:24 pm Subject: [LUTE

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-01-31 Thread Tristan von Neumann
@cs.dartmouth.edu <mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu>> on behalf     of Hector Sequera <hectorl...@mac.com <mailto:hectorl...@mac.com>>     Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 1:55 PM     To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu <mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>     Subject: [LUTE] Re: Cherbury l

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-01-31 Thread John Mardinly
--_000_FFA9553912F34B37A36432623F95F2B4asuedu_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1258" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Appalling about the Siena Lute Book. Gloves are cheap! A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. [cid:43213E1A-45A3-4C0C-B084-966A95C27ED9] The Sleep of Reason

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-01-31 Thread Arthur Ness
beautiful engravings were done in Japan. My classmate Masakata "Holborn" Kanazawa served as intermediary. -Original Message- From: spiffys84121 <spiffys84...@cs.dartmouth.edu> To: Lutelist <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Wed, Jan 31, 2018 7:29 am Su

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-01-31 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Sequera <hectorl...@mac.com>     Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 1:55 PM     To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu     Subject: [LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book     Good afternoon,     In reply to the original question, the Lute Society just sent an email     to its membership to assess whether or not

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-01-31 Thread Nancy Carlin
__ From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu <lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu> on behalf of Hector Sequera <hectorl...@mac.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 1:55 PM To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book Go

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2018-01-31 Thread Max Langer
om> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 1:55 PM To: [5][6]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book Good afternoon, In reply to the original question, the Lute Society just sent an email to

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-01-31 Thread Dan Winheld
edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book Good afternoon, In reply to the original question, the Lute Society just sent an email to its membership to assess whether or not there is any interest on this. Your reply to the message below may determine the fate of this project.

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-01-31 Thread Bruno Cognyl-Fournier
e@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book Good afternoon, In reply to the original question, the Lute Society just sent an email to its membership to assess whether or not there is any interest on this. Your reply to the message below may

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-01-31 Thread Hector Sequera
Dear All, As indicated in the message below, please reply directly to the secretary of the Lute Society since I am not collating the replies but simply passing the information to this list. Best wishes, Hector > On 31 January 2018 at 14:55, Hector Sequera

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-01-31 Thread Hector Sequera
Good afternoon, In reply to the original question, the Lute Society just sent an email to its membership to assess whether or not there is any interest on this. Your reply to the message below may determine the fate of this project. If interested simply reply to the secretary at:

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-01-31 Thread Matteo Turri
On 28 January 2018 at 12:42, Denys Stephens <[1]denyssteph...@sky.com> wrote: Dear Matteo, Thanks for your email! The subject of the planned Cherbury facsimile was discussed at the Lute Society committee meeting held last December, and there was still strong interest in

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-01-31 Thread spiffys84121
-07:00) To: Lutelist <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book The last I heard all the hard work had been done but they were waiting to break even on the Matthew Holmes manuscript before publishing. This was already some time ago. Best, Matthew On 31/0

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-01-31 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
No significant progress so far... Jean-Marie -- >The last I heard all the hard work had been done but they were waiting >to break even on the Matthew Holmes manuscript before publishing. This >was already some time ago. > >Best, > >Matthew > >On 31/01/2018 11:54, Rainer wrote: >>

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-01-31 Thread Matthew Daillie
The last I heard all the hard work had been done but they were waiting to break even on the Matthew Holmes manuscript before publishing. This was already some time ago. Best, Matthew On 31/01/2018 11:54, Rainer wrote: I seem to remember that the English LS had announced a facsimile edition.

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-01-31 Thread G. C.
Dear Ralph, A quick search of the "Digitale Bibliothek" doesn't seem to show any "new" lute related material though. Have you found any? Best G. On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 11:30 AM, Ralf Mattes <[1]r...@mh-freiburg.de> wrote: Am Mittwoch, 31. Januar 2018 11:19 CET, "G. C."

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-01-31 Thread Rainer
Tu felix Germania :) Rainer On 31.01.2018 11:30, Ralf Mattes wrote: Am Mittwoch, 31. Januar 2018 11:19 CET, "G. C." schrieb: Yes, 25 pounds for a "free download" :D Well, technically speaking, you are free to download (and pay!) or not ;-) In such moments I'm

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-01-31 Thread Rainer
I seem to remember that the English LS had announced a facsimile edition. Rainer On 31.01.2018 11:19, G. C. wrote: Yes, 25 pounds for a "free download" :D G. On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Rainer <[1]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de> wrote: Have you received a reply?

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-01-31 Thread Ralf Mattes
Am Mittwoch, 31. Januar 2018 11:19 CET, "G. C." schrieb: >Yes, 25 pounds for a "free download" :D Well, technically speaking, you are free to download (and pay!) or not ;-) In such moments I'm glad to live in a country where libraries still remember what their

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-01-31 Thread G. C.
Yes, 25 pounds for a "free download" :D G. On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Rainer <[1]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de> wrote: Have you received a reply? Rainer On 20.01.2018 10:52, Matteo Turri wrote: We are pleased to offer complete digital copies of the

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-01-31 Thread Rainer
Have you received a reply? Rainer On 20.01.2018 10:52, Matteo Turri wrote: We are pleased to offer complete digital copies of the following manuscripts from the Fitzwilliam collection, supplied in pdf format and available via a free download or on CD. Cost: £25.00 +vat per

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-01-20 Thread Matteo Turri
We are pleased to offer complete digital copies of the following manuscripts from the Fitzwilliam collection, supplied in pdf format and available via a free download or on CD. Cost: £25.00 +vat per manuscript (inc. postage where necessary). As I understand it, it's either a free

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-01-19 Thread G. C.
There is such divergent policy when it comes to lute manuscripts nowadays. One has only to look at [1]Facsimile-Links to see how the different libraries measure out their generosity. And how easily accessible they make their manuscripts. (Easy full PDF download at a click, or

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

2018-01-19 Thread Alain Veylit
The Herb of Cherb lute book seems to be available in PDF format from the Fitzwilliam against a small-ish fee: http://www.fitzmuseum.cam.ac.uk/aboutus/imagelibrary/products Anybody got it and can tell us more about that digital copy? Alain To get on or off this list see list information at