Sv: Re: Imitations

2004-08-08 Thread kaleido
Hi, I´ve read this as well as the ricercar thread, after a while abroad, and as I see it, lute tablature, notated in your own favourite way, (there are many...) is the most logical way to play a chordophone. What has not been mentioned is the need to keep the fingering as long as you possibly

Tone Colour (was imitations)

2004-08-08 Thread RichardTomBeck
Thanks, Denys, for a most fascinating and thoughtful reply, which will give me much food for thought. Cheers Tom --

Tone colour (was imitations)

2004-08-08 Thread Denys Stephens
Dear All, Tom's question touches on an issue that I have been wondering about for some time: "when I play the guitar, one of the great joys is finding fingering to = fit the piece I'm studying. That's something I really miss, experimenting around till=20 just the right sound emerges, and a fingeri

Re: Imitations

2004-08-08 Thread Vance Wood
them while another voice moves on. =20 Vance Wood. - Original Message -=20 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 3:33 PM Subject: Re: Imitations Thanks for your reply, Vance. For from thinking I am too ignorant to = cope with normal notatio

Re: Imitations

2004-08-07 Thread Vance Wood
and = uneducated musicians who are unable or too lazy to learn staff notation = or read regular music as we understand it today. Vance Wood. - Original Message -=20 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 8:13 AM Subject: Re: Imitations

Re: Imitations

2004-08-07 Thread Vance Wood
ce when in fact there are two closely intertwined voices. Vance Wood. Vance Wood. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 3:55 AM Subject: Imitations > > > So making the move > > >from notation to

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2004-08-07 Thread RichardTomBeck
> So making the move > >from notation to tablature is not just changing one kind of > >diagram for another, it's a change of musical culture that > >invites you into a greater creative involvement with the music. > >It's this point that those musicians who disparage the use of > >tablature fail to

Re: Imitations

2004-08-06 Thread Thomas Schall
l culture that > invites you into a greater creative involvement with the music. > It's this point that those musicians who disparage the use of > tablature fail to understand. > > Best wishes, > > Denys > > > > - Original Message ----- > From: <

Re: Imitations

2004-08-04 Thread Vance Wood
ut try not to make it too mechanical or you might miss the "phantom voices" that often materialize in his music. Vance Wood. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 9:53 AM Subject: Imitations > Hi

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2004-07-28 Thread RichardTomBeck
Hi Ed, I don't know what numbers those are. I get all my music from the extraordinary resources the Internet provides, and these came from something called the Internet lute society (I think). Are there any more pieces of a similar standard if difficulty you could recommend? I looked through w

RE: Imitations

2004-07-28 Thread Spring, aus dem, Rainer
> -Original Message- > From: LGS-Europe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 6:41 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Imitations > > > Speaking of Francesco da Milano, does anyone know of a playable > > edition = of his wor

RE: Imitations

2004-07-27 Thread Ed Durbrow
>Hello, all! > >Speaking of Francesco da Milano, does anyone know of a playable edition = >of his works? I have access to the Ness edition, but, given the numerous = >page turns, I find it impossible to play from it. I have thought about = >retyping every piece into Fronimo, but that would take a v

Re: Imitations

2004-07-27 Thread Ed Durbrow
>The pieces by FdM I'm playing are Fantasias 31, 32, 41, 81 and Ricercars 4,= >=20 >67. So those are Ness numbers? >I just couldn't believe the music would actually be so barren and aimless,=20 >but only after a while did it occur to me that there might be more to it tha= >n=20 >that. FdaM is o

Re: Imitations

2004-07-27 Thread LGS-Europe
Write it out in staff notation is an obvious answer. If not to play from, then at least to study the counterpoint from. It's a bother, but worth while the effort if you're confused. I often encounter places I'm not sure about, that have more than one solution or that I'd have never recognised just

Re: Imitations

2004-07-27 Thread LGS-Europe
> Speaking of Francesco da Milano, does anyone know of a playable edition = > of his works? The facsimile of many/most/all? of the books are available (I have some Minkoff and Arnaldo Forni here). David

RE: Imitations

2004-07-27 Thread lutesmith
Dear Stephen, I remember being driven to distraction by all those page turns too. That one and the CNRS N. Vallet (the facsimile has only a few page turns--hooray). Yes, the piano reduction is a help for some and often gives some good suggestions from the editor for voicing and those confused

RE: Imitations

2004-07-27 Thread STEPHEN ARNDT
Hello, all! Speaking of Francesco da Milano, does anyone know of a playable edition = of his works? I have access to the Ness edition, but, given the numerous = page turns, I find it impossible to play from it. I have thought about = retyping every piece into Fronimo, but that would take a very lo

Re: Imitations

2004-07-27 Thread arckon
d try using different colored highlighters on a photocopy of the piece to visually accentuate the voicing. Regards, Leonard Williams From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2004/07/27 Tue PM 12:53:38 EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Imitations Hi al

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2004-07-27 Thread RichardTomBeck
can't get my fingers round and=20 being a musician by training, I know something about imitations (though mos= tly of=20 the 12-tone variety). Some of what you say about looking at the individual=20 voices has gradually dawned on me while I've sat there plinking and plonking= , as=20 has

Re: Imitations

2004-07-27 Thread Ed Durbrow
RichardTomBeck wrote: >I'm playing some pieces by Francesco da Milano, which are technically not too >demanding. The problem I find is in recognising all the imitations in the >various voices. In staff notation these would be obvious, but I find myself >initially going plink-

Re: Imitations

2004-07-27 Thread Denys Stephens
shes, Denys - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 5:53 PM Subject: Imitations > Hi all, > > I'm playing some pieces by Francesco da Milano, which are technically not too > demanding. The problem I

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2004-07-27 Thread RichardTomBeck
Hi all, I'm playing some pieces by Francesco da Milano, which are technically not too demanding. The problem I find is in recognising all the imitations in the various voices. In staff notation these would be obvious, but I find myself initially going plink-plonk-plonk-plink till my ear