[LUTE] Re: archlute/theorbo in Corelli's Op. 1

2014-01-29 Thread jean-michel Catherinot
only gives solution for chords, not to play a B.C., and also dedicated to the harpsichord (did Delair even play the theorbo?). The others (Grenerin, Fleury,...) work with re-entrant tuning, even if the solutions could be strange for us (but what about

[LUTE] Re: archlute/theorbo in Corelli's Op. 1

2014-01-29 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
). The only strange book of Delair gives the impression that the tuning could be not re-entrant: but it's a quite basic book, which only gives solution for chords, not to play a B.C., and also dedicated to the harpsichord (did Delair even play the theorbo?). The others

[LUTE] Re: archlute/theorbo in Corelli's Op. 1

2014-01-28 Thread jean-michel Catherinot
, at Weiss' time: lute, arciliuto and theorbo. And it is not a question of label, it's a question of tuning and quantity of noise it produces! Le Mardi 28 janvier 2014 2h41, David Tayler vidan...@sbcglobal.net a ecrit

[LUTE] Re: archlute/theorbo in Corelli's Op. 1

2014-01-28 Thread Martyn Hodgson
This doesn't address the point I made to you: that the fundamental difference between the archlute and the theorbo is in the manner of stringing - theorbos have the top one or two courses lowered from nominal; archlutes do not. If you don't think this is the case then, to repeat

[LUTE] Re: archlute/theorbo in Corelli's Op. 1

2014-01-28 Thread Martyn Hodgson
To: lute lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tuesday, 28 January 2014, 1:35 Subject: [LUTE] Re: archlute/theorbo in Corelli's Op. 1 __ This is a very interesting quote because it falls in between the classical

[LUTE] Re: archlute/theorbo in Corelli's Op. 1

2014-01-28 Thread Markus Lutz
best galant music. He also states that he plays a sort of adjusted lute instrument in orchestra and church. Most probably this was a d minor German theorbo, without the highest string (but this is an assumption only, that is strengthened by Baron). He criticises that theorbos often - he even says

[LUTE] Re: archlute/theorbo in Corelli's Op. 1

2014-01-28 Thread R. Mattes
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 09:59:29 + (GMT), Martyn Hodgson wrote This doesn't address the point I made to you: that the fundamental difference between the archlute and the theorbo is in the manner of stringing - theorbos have the top one or two courses lowered from nominal; archlutes do

[LUTE] Re: archlute/theorbo in Corelli's Op. 1

2014-01-28 Thread R. Mattes
style doesn't replace the older style - it coexists with it for quite some time). It might be interesting to study _why_ theorbo/archlute aren't capable to play galant music (I have my theories but the unfortunately margins of this email are too small to elaborate ...;-) He also states that he

[LUTE] Re: archlute/theorbo in Corelli's Op. 1

2014-01-28 Thread Martyn Hodgson
__ From: R. Mattes r...@mh-freiburg.de To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk; David Tayler vidan...@sbcglobal.net; lute lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tuesday, 28 January 2014, 11:22 Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: archlute/theorbo in Corelli's Op. 1 On Tue, 28 Jan

[LUTE] Re: archlute/theorbo in Corelli's Op. 1

2014-01-28 Thread Christopher Wilke
not provide an empirically reliable metric to determine pitch or tuning based upon string length. Beyond that, I'm wondering what exactly the overall point of this conversation is. If the object is to determine whether certain composers expected archlute or theorbo to the exclusion

[LUTE] Re: archlute/theorbo in Corelli's Op. 1

2014-01-28 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Subject: RE: [LUTE] Re: archlute/theorbo in Corelli's Op. 1 Iconographic sources depict theorbos and/or archlutes with highly variable numbers of courses and stringing setups. Unfortunately we have no way of knowing how any particular instrument was tuned. Modern gut, since its

[LUTE] Re: archlute/theorbo in Corelli's Op. 1

2014-01-28 Thread Markus Lutz
Am 28.01.2014 12:36, schrieb R. Mattes: On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 11:56:46 +0100, Markus Lutz wrote He criticises that theorbos often - he even says ordinarily - are played with nails and therefore have a coarse, harsh sound (also primarily his opinion!). Hmm, that's not what he writes - he

[LUTE] Re: archlute/theorbo in Corelli's Op. 1

2014-01-28 Thread R. Mattes
. But, o.k., since you threw it in: just out of curiosity, did you recently read that article? Let's start with page 408: Defining the differences between the chitarrone, theorbo and archlute has always been difficult. Mersenne (1637) was confused, and few readers of his book on instruments seem to have

[LUTE] Re: archlute/theorbo in Corelli's Op. 1

2014-01-28 Thread Martyn Hodgson
hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Sent: Tuesday, 28 January 2014, 16:57 Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: archlute/theorbo in Corelli's Op. 1 On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 11:35:20 + (GMT), Martyn Hodgson wrote Have a look at: This is either a non-answer (how utterly Zen) or pretty close to an (ad hominem

[LUTE] Re: archlute/theorbo in Corelli's Op. 1

2014-01-28 Thread R. Mattes
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 17:10:18 + (GMT), Martyn Hodgson wrote I'm sorry you find Bob Spencer's paper so very poor. No need to be sorry, esp. since I don't find Spencer's paper very poor (where did I write that?). I only tied to say that it a) shows it's age b) seems to be an overview-type of

[LUTE] Was archlute/theorbo- Historic vs. Modern gut?

2014-01-28 Thread Dan Winheld
whether certain composers expected archlute or theorbo to the exclusion of the other, the historical evidence is inconclusive. Chris[1] To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Was archlute/theorbo- Historic vs. Modern gut?

2014-01-28 Thread R. Mattes
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 09:36:47 -0800, Dan Winheld wrote Chris- Modern gut,since its characteristics are quiet different from historical gut, does not provide an empirically reliable metric to determine pitch or tuning based upon string length. This bit I find very interesting. Except for the

[LUTE] Re: archlute/theorbo in Corelli's Op. 1

2014-01-27 Thread jean-michel Catherinot
In a letter to Johann Mattheson written in 1723 Weiss describes the lutes he used: a|.I am of the opinion that after the keyboard there is no more perfect instrument than this one (the lute) especially for Galanterie. The theorbo and Arciliuto, which are quite different

[LUTE] Re: archlute/theorbo in Corelli's Op. 1

2014-01-27 Thread David Tayler
or group of instruments, like the double strung theorbo. One could try to argue that the terms are highly specific, and I would then simply direct people to the the lists of CDs over the last forty years, and you can see different fads about what is an archlute, chitarrone and so

[LUTE] Re: archlute/theorbo in Corelli's Op. 1

2014-01-27 Thread David Tayler
labels must be invented and applied (the Weiss Theorbo, etc.) or one could stay away from the labels d In a letter to Johann Mattheson written in 1723 Weiss describes the lutes he used: a|.I am of the opinion that after the keyboard there is no more perfect instrument

[LUTE] Re: archlute/theorbo in Corelli's Op. 1

2014-01-25 Thread Martyn Hodgson
__ From: David Tayler vidan...@sbcglobal.net To: lute lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, 24 January 2014, 19:14 Subject: [LUTE] Re: archlute/theorbo in Corelli's Op. 1 The terms arciliuto and tiorba are high-degree interchangeable. That is, they are not low or medium

[LUTE] archlute/theorbo in Corelli's Op. 1

2014-01-24 Thread Gary R. Boye
Dear Jean Michel, Yes; interesting! We are only talking about Corelli's Op. 1 (Opp. 2-4 all call for archlute according to surviving editions--no mention of theorbo there). I suppose this could either reflect common practice in a city (Rome vs. Bologna/Venice) or publisher preference. Or just

[LUTE] Re: archlute/theorbo in Corelli's Op. 1

2014-01-24 Thread jean-michel Catherinot
Corelli's Op. 1 (Opp. 2-4 all call for archlute according to surviving editions--no mention of theorbo there). I suppose this could either reflect common practice in a city (Rome vs. Bologna/Venice) or publisher preference. Or just happenstance--what editions the publishers happened

[LUTE] Re: archlute/theorbo in Corelli's Op. 1

2014-01-24 Thread Geoff Gaherty
On 24/01/14 9:19 AM, Gary R. Boye wrote: Yes; interesting! We are only talking about Corelli's Op. 1 (Opp. 2-4 all call for archlute according to surviving editions--no mention of theorbo there). I suppose this could either reflect common practice in a city (Rome vs. Bologna/Venice) or publisher

[LUTE] Re: archlute/theorbo in Corelli's Op. 1

2014-01-24 Thread Arthur Ness
; LuteNet list Subject: [LUTE] Re: archlute/theorbo in Corelli's Op. 1 great, Gary!Thank you for this sum up. I searched some weeks ago on RISM with the key arciliuto and so on. Apart for its use in Roma (and +?), it's outstanding that you find arciliuto obligato in Dresden 's opera

[LUTE] Re: archlute/theorbo in Corelli's Op. 1

2014-01-24 Thread David Tayler
in specific cases. For every case, there will be an exception. There are certainly some interesting specific cases. So either what we call the theorbo or the archlute could be used to play just the single notes of a bass part, or chords, or continuo, or any of a million shades in between

[LUTE] Re: archlute/theorbo in Corelli's Op. 1

2014-01-24 Thread Ralf Bachmann
13:56:14 -0800 To: jeanmichel.catheri...@yahoo.com; boy...@appstate.edu; hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk; r...@mh-freiburg.de; edurb...@gmail.com; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu From: arthurjn...@verizon.net Subject: [LUTE] Re: archlute/theorbo in Corelli's Op. 1 Yes, and some of those

[LUTE] Re: 5 + 9 theorbo?

2014-01-12 Thread Geoff Gaherty
On 12/01/14 12:42 AM, heiman.dan...@juno.com wrote: Instrument(s) for sale:http://bit.ly/1ddztq7 If I count correctly, this instrument has1 single chanterelle + 4 double courses on the fingerboard9 single courses on the extension. Is there any historical, modern or practical justification for

[LUTE] Re: 5 + 9 theorbo?

2014-01-12 Thread Christopher Stetson
Hi, Daniel, Geoff, and all. I believe current thinking is that this is a version of a chitarrone francese. Stephen Barber and Sandi Harris offer their version in their catalog (No. 21): [1]http://www.lutesandguitars.co.uk/htm/cat10.htm with the famous painting and a concise

[LUTE] Re: 5 + 9 theorbo?

2014-01-12 Thread WALSH STUART
On 12/01/2014 13:21, Geoff Gaherty wrote: On 12/01/14 12:42 AM, heiman.dan...@juno.com wrote: Instrument(s) for sale:http://bit.ly/1ddztq7 If I count correctly, this instrument has1 single chanterelle + 4 double courses on the fingerboard9 single courses on the extension. Is there any

[LUTE] Re: 5 + 9 theorbo?

2014-01-12 Thread Alexander Batov
Bravo, Stuart! On 12/01/2014 23:06, WALSH STUART wrote: As you say: quite heavily built and rather odd designs. Presumably the makers in Pakistan - or wherever - are simply meeting the brief thay have been given. Ebay 'lute' is flooded with these things: odd, bizarre, heavily built, 'needs

[LUTE] 5 + 9 theorbo?

2014-01-11 Thread heiman.dan...@juno.com
Instrument(s) for sale:http://bit.ly/1ddztq7 If I count correctly, this instrument has1 single chanterelle + 4 double courses on the fingerboard9 single courses on the extension. Is there any historical, modern or practical justification for this configuration?In other words, does there exist

[LUTE] Re: Thigh support for theorbo

2013-10-04 Thread Martin Shepherd
Well said, John! I agree entirely with what you say. Are you planning to live any longer than people typically did in the 16th C? Martin On 04/10/2013 07:17, John Lenti wrote: Speaking as a full-time theorbo player, I feel that I can say with some authority that the theorbo cannot be held

[LUTE] Re: Thigh support for theorbo

2013-10-04 Thread jean-michel Catherinot
: Thigh support for theorbo Well said, John! I agree entirely with what you say. Are you planning to live any longer than people typically did in the 16th C? Martin On 04/10/2013 07:17, John Lenti wrote: Speaking as a full-time theorbo player, I feel that I can say with some

[LUTE] Re: Thigh support for theorbo

2013-10-04 Thread Edward C. Yong
helpful to hold a theorbo more upright than a lute so that the centre of gravity is closer in - it also helps a bit in playing large left hand stretches. I've seen quite a few newcomers to the theorbo struggle mightily with trying to play a theorbo in an almost horizontal position

[LUTE] Re: Thigh support for theorbo

2013-10-04 Thread Edward Martin
Very clever. I recall about 10 years ago I asked Dan Larson to build me a theorbo, and he replied he would not, because he told me I do not want one. Turns out he is correct. ed At 12:17 AM 10/4/2013, John Lenti wrote: Speaking as a full-time theorbo player, I feel that I can say with some

[LUTE] Re: Thigh support for theorbo

2013-10-04 Thread Dan Winheld
of earlier players served much the same purpose. It is also helpful to hold a theorbo more upright than a lute so that the centre of gravity is closer in - it also helps a bit in playing large left hand stretches. I've seen quite a few newcomers to the theorbo struggle mightily

[LUTE] Re: Thigh support for theorbo

2013-10-04 Thread Dan Winheld
If you remove the neck with its extension and jam it through the rose, you can rig a sail on the thing and go boating on the bay. One gentleman who used to play a gigantic theorbo here had an instrument that would have floated at least three medium size lutenists and their lunch comfortably

[LUTE] Re: Thigh support for theorbo

2013-10-03 Thread Hilbert Jörg
as the rips are. Am 02.10.2013 um 23:35 schrieb Daniel Shoskes kidneykut...@gmail.com: Dear Theorbistas: has anyone ever tried one of the classical guitar rests/cushions/supports that many guitarists now use instead of a footstool for their theorbo? Some have suction cups or clamps which I

[LUTE] Re: Thigh support for theorbo

2013-10-03 Thread Martyn Hodgson
coats of earlier players served much the same purpose. It is also helpful to hold a theorbo more upright than a lute so that the centre of gravity is closer in - it also helps a bit in playing large left hand stretches. I've seen quite a few newcomers to the theorbo struggle mightily

[LUTE] Re: Thigh support for theorbo

2013-10-03 Thread William Samson
: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk; To: William Samson willsam...@yahoo.co.uk; Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; Daniel Shoskes kidneykut...@gmail.com; Subject: [LUTE] Re: Thigh support for theorbo Sent: Thu, Oct 3, 2013 7:57:22 AM Dear Bill, Most early representations

[LUTE] Re: Thigh support for theorbo

2013-10-03 Thread Daniel Shoskes
possibility of the instrument's lower side sliding forward. No doubt, as has been suggested before (Bob Spencer I think), the heavy coats of earlier players served much the same purpose. It is also helpful to hold a theorbo more upright than a lute so that the centre of gravity

[LUTE] Re: Thigh support for theorbo

2013-10-03 Thread Mathias Rösel
, October 03, 2013 11:55 AM To: Lute List Subject: [LUTE] Re: Thigh support for theorbo Thanks for all the replies. Time to start experimenting! On Oct 3, 2013, at 3:57 AM, Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Dear Bill, Most early representations show theorboes being held

[LUTE] Re: Thigh support for theorbo

2013-10-03 Thread Dan Winheld
, as has been suggested before (Bob Spencer I think), the heavy coats of earlier players served much the same purpose. It is also helpful to hold a theorbo more upright than a lute so that the centre of gravity is closer in - it also helps a bit in playing large left hand stretches

[LUTE] Re: Thigh support for theorbo

2013-10-03 Thread Christopher Wilke
the rose. I typically start by placing the instrument so that the historically appropriate right hand technique is possible and I can reach the left hand notes. Usually this automatically puts the theorbo right in place, without having to constantly cajole it. (Becomes more difficult on a mucho macho

[LUTE] Re: Thigh support for theorbo

2013-10-03 Thread John Lenti
Speaking as a full-time theorbo player, I feel that I can say with some authority that the theorbo cannot be held comfortably by anyone ever. What you do is you play near the bridge and suffer, pop some Advil, suffer some more, pop a Demerol, more massage, claw at the strings nearish the bridge

[LUTE] Thigh support for theorbo

2013-10-02 Thread Daniel Shoskes
Dear Theorbistas: has anyone ever tried one of the classical guitar rests/cushions/supports that many guitarists now use instead of a footstool for their theorbo? Some have suction cups or clamps which I wouldn't be thrilled to use on my instrument, but some, like the Dynarette don't. I'm

[LUTE] Re: Thigh support for theorbo

2013-10-02 Thread William Samson
] Thigh support for theorbo Sent: Wed, Oct 2, 2013 9:35:50 PM Dear Theorbistas: has anyone ever tried one of the classical guitar rests/cushions/supports that many guitarists now use instead of a footstool for their theorbo? Some have suction cups or clamps which I wouldn't be thrilled

[LUTE] Re: Thigh support for theorbo

2013-10-02 Thread Mayes, Joseph
of a footstool for their theorbo? Some have suction cups or clamps which I wouldn't be thrilled to use on my instrument, but some, like the Dynarette don't. I'm still struggling to find an ergonomic position and the sitting on the strap options just don't fit my body. Thanks Danny To get

[LUTE] Re: Thigh support for theorbo

2013-10-02 Thread jslute
of a footstool for their theorbo? Some have suction cups or clamps which I wouldn't be thrilled to use on my instrument, but some, like the Dynarette don't. I'm still struggling to find an ergonomic position and the sitting on the strap options just don't fit my body. Thanks Danny

[LUTE] Peter Damsma: RT/JJS passacaglia for theorbo

2013-04-23 Thread Roman Turovsky
http://youtu.be/HxZXUbYr_8g with Peter Damsma! Enjoy! Amities, RT To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE-BUILDER] Re: Sellas theorbo bridge

2013-02-01 Thread Paul Rans
+0100 31/1/13, Julien Stryjak wrote: Dear all, I'm currently making a theorbo after the instrument from Sellas, now in the Brussels museum (n° M 255), a well-known small theorbo. I've been looking at the drawing from the museum, and can't figure out exactly how the bridge is carved

[LUTE-BUILDER] Re: Sellas theorbo bridge

2013-02-01 Thread David Van Edwards
, Julien Stryjak wrote: Dear all, I'm currently making a theorbo after the instrument from Sellas, now in the Brussels museum (nƒ M 255), a well-known small theorbo. I've been looking at the drawing from the museum, and can't figure out exactly how the bridge is carved at its ends

[LUTE-BUILDER] Re: Sellas theorbo bridge

2013-02-01 Thread David Van Edwards
At 18:00 +0100 31/1/13, Julien Stryjak wrote: Dear all, I'm currently making a theorbo after the instrument from Sellas, now in the Brussels museum (nDEG M 255), a well-known small theorbo. I've been looking at the drawing from the museum, and can't figure

[LUTE-BUILDER] Sellas theorbo bridge

2013-01-31 Thread Julien Stryjak
Dear all, I'm currently making a theorbo after the instrument from Sellas, now in the Brussels museum (n° M 255), a well-known small theorbo. I've been looking at the drawing from the museum, and can't figure out exactly how the bridge is carved at its ends. It is definitely different from

[LUTE-BUILDER] Re: Sellas theorbo bridge

2013-01-31 Thread David Van Edwards
At 18:00 +0100 31/1/13, Julien Stryjak wrote: Dear all, I'm currently making a theorbo after the instrument from Sellas, now in the Brussels museum (n° M 255), a well-known small theorbo. I've been looking at the drawing from the museum, and can't figure out exactly how the bridge

[LUTE] Turkish Theorbo

2013-01-27 Thread Mathias Rösel
Thanks to Roman who pointed me to this marvellous recording: http://youtu.be/MBZlqVndhW8 (Marin Marais, La Reveuse, arranged for the theorbo, percussion and Chinese violin). According to the blurb, the theorbo is a Turkish instrument, but don't let that remarks prevent you from listening

[LUTE] Re: Turkish Theorbo

2013-01-27 Thread WALSH STUART
On 27/01/2013 20:36, Mathias Rösel wrote: Thanks to Roman who pointed me to this marvellous recording: http://youtu.be/MBZlqVndhW8 (Marin Marais, La Reveuse, arranged for the theorbo, percussion and Chinese violin). Globalisation eh? That's globalisation not globalization, of course. I can

[LUTE] Marin Marais La Reveuse - theorbo version

2013-01-18 Thread Luca Manassero
Dear List, in a CD recorded in 1997 (Pieces pour theorbes franc,aises) Jose Miguel Moreno plays a rather beautiful *theorbo* transcription of the well-known La Reveuse for viol of Marin Marais. Does anybody of you have access to this transcription? Do you happen to have

[LUTE] FOR SALE Theorbo - Martin De Witte 2008

2012-10-06 Thread Anton Birula
FOR SALE Theorbo - Martin De Witte 2008 78cm/150cm 8 strings strings on the short neck with a possibility of a long F as well A stable loud instrument, comfortable for all sorts of repertoire due to a comfortable string length. Works great for solo and continuo. PICTURES can be sent

[LUTE] Re: extreme theorbo case

2012-06-19 Thread Bill Eisele
, 19 Jun 2012 00:23:07 + To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu From: johnle...@hotmail.com Subject: [LUTE] extreme theorbo case Dear all, Has anybody got one of these? http://www.casextreme.com/prod_details.php?pid' If so, is it any good? Certainly cheaper than the next few

[LUTE] Re: extreme theorbo case

2012-06-19 Thread John Lenti
2012 18:07:35 -0700 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu From: lutesm...@mac.com Subject: [LUTE] Re: extreme theorbo case Hi ho John, Iirc, he was at the same LSA event as when I met you wa-a-ay back when, earlier this century. (It's impossible to keep DS away from

[LUTE] Re: extreme theorbo case

2012-06-19 Thread Sean Smith
@cs.dartmouth.edu From: lutesm...@mac.com Subject: [LUTE] Re: extreme theorbo case Hi ho John, Iirc, he was at the same LSA event as when I met you wa-a-ay back when, earlier this century. (It's impossible to keep DS away from Cleveland.) You probably didn't notice him running and hiding behind doors

[LUTE] Re: wheels for theorbo

2012-06-18 Thread David Van Edwards
Dear Richard, Last year I put a small hook on Lynda Sayce's theorbo case to take these wheels and it has been a great success. http://www.kcstrings.com/bass-buggie It is much better than using skateboard wheels and deals with rough ground easily. Can be taken on and off as needed and is light

[LUTE] Re: wheels for theorbo

2012-06-18 Thread David van Ooijen
I saw those wheels in action on double basses. Love them and indeed they are better than my skate board wheels. A hook on the theorbo case would be enough? Great idea! David On 18 June 2012 17:55, David Van Edwards da...@vanedwards.co.uk wrote: Dear Richard, Last year I put a small hook

[LUTE] Re: wheels for theorbo

2012-06-18 Thread David Van Edwards
, David At 23:07 +0200 18/6/12, David van Ooijen wrote: I saw those wheels in action on double basses. Love them and indeed they are better than my skate board wheels. A hook on the theorbo case would be enough? Great idea! David On 18 June 2012 17:55, David Van Edwards da...@vanedwards.co.uk

[LUTE] extreme theorbo case

2012-06-18 Thread John Lenti
fractures (just dropped off at the surfboard shop for repair), and my Kingham cases, which have been reduced to little theorbo-case molecules. All best, John -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: extreme theorbo case

2012-06-18 Thread Daniel Shoskes
Kingham cases, which have been reduced to little theorbo-case molecules. All best, John -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: extreme theorbo case

2012-06-18 Thread John Lenti
I like the idea of the case-case, and I may get one for my baroque lute, but I'm thinking more particularly of the ones you just stick a theorbo in and go. Also, when do I get to meet you, Danny? We know way too many of the same people, like I ran into this lawyer on the train from

[LUTE] Re: extreme theorbo case

2012-06-18 Thread Sean Smith
seminars. Sean ;^) On Jun 18, 2012, at 5:33 PM, John Lenti wrote: I like the idea of the case-case, and I may get one for my baroque lute, but I'm thinking more particularly of the ones you just stick a theorbo in and go. Also, when do I get to meet you, Danny? We know way too many

[LUTE] wheels for theorbo

2012-06-17 Thread richard brook
Hi netters I wonder if anyone has used clamp on wheels for dragging theorboes around campuses etc. LIke with luggage, though you could remove them. I looked briefly at a site that sold something called E-Z wheels; Any experience with those? Thanks, Dick Brook richa...@ptd.net To get on

[LUTE] Re: wheels for theorbo

2012-06-17 Thread Leonard Williams
How about a pair of old fashioned clamp-on roller skates? Or rest it on a skate board. Leonard On 6/17/12 12:12 PM, richard brook richa...@ptd.net wrote: Hi netters I wonder if anyone has used clamp on wheels for dragging theorboes around campuses etc. LIke with luggage, though you could

[LUTE] Re: wheels for theorbo

2012-06-17 Thread David van Ooijen
Years and years ago I put a pair of skate board wheels on my theorbo case, and boy am I glad I did! TGV: theorbe a grande vitesse! What I did was buy a (cheap) skateboard, change the supsension from a stiff block of rubber intended to cushion a 10-year old to something softer (I used layers of cut

[LUTE] Thomas Dewing's theorbo

2012-05-31 Thread David van Ooijen
Thomas Dewing made several paintings that include a good-looking theorbo. Anybody knows anything about that instrument? David -- *** David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com www.davidvanooijen.nl *** To get on or off this list see list

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: LUTE/THEORBO CASES for sale

2012-05-20 Thread BENJAMIN NARVEY
Hello luters, Just passing this on for those who may be interested: LUTE/THEORBO CASES for sale: I have duplicate cases for various instruments of mine (some lighter, some stronger, for varying travel conditions) and, due to a combination conjugal pressure and the restraints

[LUTE] LUTE/THEORBO CASES for sale

2012-05-20 Thread BENJAMIN NARVEY
Hello luters, Just passing this on for those who may be interested: LUTE/THEORBO CASES for sale: I have duplicate cases for various instruments of mine (some lighter, some stronger, for varying travel conditions) and, due to a combination conjugal pressure

[LUTE] CD Viability was Miking a lute/theorbo

2012-04-15 Thread tom
lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wed, April 11, 2012 3:48:35 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Miking a lute/theorbo On Apr 11, 2012, at 6:00 PM, Anthony Hind wrote: Ed Do I understand that you record in mono? I have often found that mono recordings are more relaxing than stereo

[LUTE] Re: CD Viability was Miking a lute/theorbo

2012-04-15 Thread Anthony Hind
Objet : [LUTE] CD Viability was Miking a lute/theorbo CDs are dead and 48KHz sounds better. Thanks for these tips on recording! I have been asking colleagues and random friends this question for years: How long do YOU think it will be before CDs go the way of the Cassette? I

[LUTE] Re: Miking a lute/theorbo

2012-04-14 Thread David Tayler
__ From: Ed Durbrow edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp To: Anthony Hind agno3ph...@yahoo.com; LuteNet list lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wed, April 11, 2012 3:48:35 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Miking a lute/theorbo On Apr 11, 2012, at 6:00 PM, Anthony Hind wrote: Ed Do I understand

[LUTE] Re: Miking a lute/theorbo

2012-04-11 Thread Ed Durbrow
with a PCM/mp3 recorder using its built in mics and recording in mp3 rather than wave format. De : Ed Durbrow edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp À : LuteNet list lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Envoyé le : Mercredi 11 avril 2012 2h22 Objet : [LUTE] Re: Miking a lute/theorbo Brad

[LUTE] Re: Miking a lute/theorbo

2012-04-10 Thread Ed Durbrow
it to improve it. On the weekend I recorded two pieces in a professional recording studio. I was accompanying a singer on the theorbo. The recording engineer aimed two mikes quite close to the body of the theorbo. On the recording, the sound of the theorbo is very tinny and distorted

[LUTE] Fret tying on a theorbo

2012-04-09 Thread Mark Probert
Hi, all. I haven't quite got the hang of tying my own frets on my 13c swan-neck. The fret gut is quite thick (1.10) for the second fret and I my issue is that the gut is hard to tie into a good tight knot. Does anyone have any tips? Do you soak the end of the gut to flex it up a little? Or

[LUTE] Re: Fret tying on a theorbo

2012-04-09 Thread Martyn Hodgson
, Mark Probert probe...@gmail.com wrote: From: Mark Probert probe...@gmail.com Subject: [LUTE] Fret tying on a theorbo To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Monday, 9 April, 2012, 7:16 Hi, all. I haven't quite got the hang of tying my own frets on my 13c swan-neck. The fret

[LUTE] Re: Fret tying on a theorbo

2012-04-09 Thread Anthony Hart
: repeat a number of times. It also helps if you can pre-stretch the gut (used strings are possible if not too worn) Martyn --- On Mon, 9/4/12, Mark Probert probe...@gmail.com wrote: From: Mark Probert probe...@gmail.com Subject: [LUTE] Fret tying on a theorbo

[LUTE] Re: Fret tying on a theorbo

2012-04-09 Thread Miles Dempster
a number of times. It also helps if you can pre-stretch the gut (used strings are possible if not too worn) Martyn --- On Mon, 9/4/12, Mark Probert probe...@gmail.com wrote: From: Mark Probert probe...@gmail.com Subject: [LUTE] Fret tying on a theorbo To: lute

[LUTE] Re: Fret tying on a theorbo

2012-04-09 Thread Daniel Winheld
--- On Mon, 9/4/12, Mark Probert probe...@gmail.com wrote: From: Mark Probert probe...@gmail.com Subject: [LUTE] Fret tying on a theorbo To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Monday, 9 April, 2012, 7:16 Hi, all. I haven't quite got the hang of tying my own frets on my 13c swan

[LUTE] Re: miking a lute/theorbo

2012-04-05 Thread William Samson
It all goes to show that Micing up is hard to do. Bill [sorry . . .] From: David Tayler vidan...@sbcglobal.net To: lute lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, 5 April 2012, 4:20 Subject: [LUTE] Re: miking a lute/theorbo Well, yesss, we can take it to extremes! But four

[LUTE] Miking a lute/theorbo

2012-04-04 Thread Stewart McCoy
Dear Brad, You can hear that tinny, brittle, distorted sound if you put your ear right up to the ribs of the lute as you play it. (It's easier with a lute than a theorbo.) A mike placed very close to the instrument will capture some of that tinny sound. If you listen to a lute or theorbo from 6

[LUTE] Re: miking a lute/theorbo

2012-04-04 Thread Christopher Wilke
www.christopherwilke.com --- On Tue, 4/3/12, Brad Walton gtung.wal...@utoronto.ca wrote: From: Brad Walton gtung.wal...@utoronto.ca Subject: [LUTE] miking a lute/theorbo To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Tuesday, April 3, 2012, 12:05 PM Hello folks, On the weekend I recorded

[LUTE] Re: miking a lute/theorbo

2012-04-04 Thread Edward Martin
better than the real thing. Chris Dr. Christopher Wilke D.M.A. Lutenist, Guitarist and Composer www.christopherwilke.com --- On Tue, 4/3/12, Brad Walton gtung.wal...@utoronto.ca wrote: From: Brad Walton gtung.wal...@utoronto.ca Subject: [LUTE] miking a lute/theorbo

[LUTE] Re: miking a lute/theorbo

2012-04-04 Thread William Samson
Subject: [LUTE] Re: miking a lute/theorbo Recipe for a really super natural lute sound: 1) Use 20-50 prohibitively expensive mics. 2) Place them at least 415 feet away from the instrument. 3) Arrange them in an incredibly intricate array involving rigging from

[LUTE] Re: miking a lute/theorbo

2012-04-04 Thread Edward C. Yong
THAT is the way to go! i am reminded of how a Russian composer (i forget which) who'd moved to the USA after the Soviet Revolution, couldn't afford gramophone needles and made do with whatever needly-pinny-thingies he could find. when asked how he could abide such terrible sound, he said

[LUTE] Re: miking a lute/theorbo

2012-04-04 Thread David Tayler
gtung.wal...@utoronto.ca Sent: Wed, April 4, 2012 10:55:36 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: miking a lute/theorbo Recipe for a really super natural lute sound: 1) Use 20-50 prohibitively expensive mics. 2) Place them at least 415 feet away from the instrument. 3) Arrange them

[LUTE] miking a lute/theorbo

2012-04-03 Thread Brad Walton
Hello folks, On the weekend I recorded two pieces in a professional recording studio. I was accompanying a singer on the theorbo. The recording engineer aimed two mikes quite close to the body of the theorbo. On the recording, the sound of the theorbo is very tinny and distorted

[LUTE] Re: miking a lute/theorbo

2012-04-03 Thread Eugene Kurenko
[1]gtung.wal...@utoronto.ca Hello folks, On the weekend I recorded two pieces in a professional recording studio. I was accompanying a singer on the theorbo. The recording engineer aimed two mikes quite close to the body of the theorbo. On the recording, the sound

[LUTE] Re: miking a lute/theorbo

2012-04-03 Thread Edward Mast
David Tayler is someone who could offer good advice; his recordings are very natural sounding. David . . .? On Apr 3, 2012, at 12:05 PM, Brad Walton wrote: Hello folks, On the weekend I recorded two pieces in a professional recording studio. I was accompanying a singer on the theorbo

[LUTE] Re: miking a lute/theorbo

2012-04-03 Thread andy butler
been wired the wrong way round so that the 2 mics cancelled each other, rather than working together. I'd probably start with the mic about 18inches from the instrument, on the midline of the soundboard and just to the neck side of the rose, I never recorded theorbo before so like Eugene says I'd

[LUTE] Re: miking a lute/theorbo

2012-04-03 Thread hera caius
I recently recorded a CD with Christmas music in a studio in Hungary and I can tell you they get the sound of the theorbo as beautiful as possible. I really don't know what kind of microphone they used but it was a huge one about 40 cm from the soundboard and a smaller one about 20 cm from

[LUTE] Re: miking a lute/theorbo

2012-04-03 Thread David van Ooijen
On 3 April 2012 18:05, Brad Walton gtung.wal...@utoronto.ca wrote: On the weekend I recorded two pieces in a professional recording studio.  I .. On the recording, the sound of the theorbo is very tinny and distorted, and bears almost no similarity to the natural/ acoustic sound

[LUTE] Re: miking a lute/theorbo

2012-04-03 Thread jslute
, Brad Waltongtung.wal...@utoronto.ca wrote: Hello folks, On the weekend I recorded two pieces in a professional recording studio. I was accompanying a singer on the theorbo. The recording engineer aimed two mikes quite close to the body of the theorbo. On the recording, the sound

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