Re: About work area embedded in a dialog

2007-10-05 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Cucinotta Tommaso wrote: On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 20:38:52 +0200 Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>we need a good infrastructure for embedding one or more workareas >>into a dialog. I would say "for having more workarea widgets around". Probably, whether embedded into dialogs, toolbars or

Re: [Cvslog] r20749 - /lyx-devel/branches/BRANCH_1_5_X/lib/doc/Makefil...

2007-10-05 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
spitz wrote: > URL: http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/20749 > Log: > Grmpf :-( > > Modified: >     lyx-devel/branches/BRANCH_1_5_X/lib/doc/Makefile.am > > Modified: lyx-devel/branches/BRANCH_1_5_X/lib/doc/Makefile.am > URL: > http://www.lyx.org/trac/file/lyx-devel/branches/BRANCH_1_5_X/lib/doc/Make

Re: The eagle has landed

2007-10-05 Thread Bennett Helm
On Oct 5, 2007, at 11:53 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: I think I have managed to set up my first release tarball, thanks to the very good documentation from Jean-Marc and José. Since it is the first one, I would appreciate if people could text it on different platforms before we release it.

RE: Suggested improvements for LyX macros

2007-10-05 Thread Mark Kortink
Hi Stefan, as I replied previously I think the way you are enhancng LyX for macros is brilliant. The problem is I do not see a single one of your enhancements in LyX 1.5x. When can we expect to see your creativity incorporated into the product Regards Mark Kortink e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: 0419

Re: The eagle has landed

2007-10-05 Thread Joost Verburg
Bo Peng wrote: I have built the official windows installers and put them in http://www.lyx.org/~bpeng/ . They seem to work fine but tests are certainly welcome. The bundled installer uses an older version of imagemagick because I could not find the version specified by Joost. Please use Joost's

Re: The eagle has landed

2007-10-05 Thread Bo Peng
> If you do not find any problems, this will be released on Monday. You can also > start building binaries from this. I have built the official windows installers and put them in http://www.lyx.org/~bpeng/ . They seem to work fine but tests are certainly welcome. The bundled installer uses an old

Re: About work area embedded in a dialog

2007-10-05 Thread Cucinotta Tommaso
On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 20:38:52 +0200 Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>we need a good infrastructure for embedding one or more workareas >>into a dialog. I would say "for having more workarea widgets around". Probably, whether embedded into dialogs, toolbars or tab panes is not that im

Idea related to character styles

2007-10-05 Thread christian . ridderstrom
The following idea is fortunately not related to the UI or implementation... The idea is intended to simplify entering a word, or a phrase, that has previously been semantically marked. Here's how it'd work from a user's perspective: * The user enters e.g. the text: Henrik went to wo

Re: [Cvslog] r20757 - in /lyx-devel/trunk/src/frontends: controllers/C...

2007-10-05 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 03:23:27PM -0400, Richard Heck wrote: > > Looking over this, it seems that you're doing more than just eliminating > the controllers. By eliminating ControlCommand, you are also eliminating > the way ControlRef (e.g.) inherited from ControlCommand, so it > looks---and I'

Re: Trying to build LyX on fresh installation of Ubuntu

2007-10-05 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Thu, 4 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to build LyX on a machine with a fresh installation of Ubuntu (something I've never done before). I've made some progress. Seems this is needed on a fresh Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install build-essential libqt4-dev sudo apt-g

Re: Trying to build LyX on fresh installation of Ubuntu

2007-10-05 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Thu, 4 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've finally solved it. For future reference, on a fresh installation of Ubuntu, I think the following is enough to then be able to compiled/build LyX: sudo apt-get install build-essential libqt4-dev gettext sudo apt-get install libc6-dev # This m

Re: *not* everything is an inset!

2007-10-05 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 08:28:30PM +0100, John Levon wrote: > On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 10:23:58PM +0300, Martin Vermeer wrote: > > > > > > > (Unfortunately insets are no good for CT) > > > > > > > > > > Interesting, why? From what I can see it seems that all the inset > > > > > people's preference

Re: *not* everything is an inset!

2007-10-05 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 10:23:58PM +0300, Martin Vermeer wrote: > > > > > (Unfortunately insets are no good for CT) > > > > > > > > Interesting, why? From what I can see it seems that all the inset > > > > people's preferences apply just the same to CT. > > > > > > Funny :-( > > > > I'm serious

Re: CharStyles As Insets: TODO

2007-10-05 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 08:59:45PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: > > > I think John understand our point of view very well but he's playing the > > > devil's advocate. > > > > Not at all. I genuinely don't understand how anybody could think that > > editing equations is like editing prose. > > Yo

Re: *not* everything is an inset!

2007-10-05 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 07:00:17PM +0100, John Levon wrote: > On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 08:34:24PM +0300, Martin Vermeer wrote: > > > > > (Unfortunately insets are no good for CT) > > > > > > Interesting, why? From what I can see it seems that all the inset > > > people's preferences apply just the

Re: [Cvslog] r20757 - in /lyx-devel/trunk/src/frontends: controllers/C...

2007-10-05 Thread Richard Heck
Looking over this, it seems that you're doing more than just eliminating the controllers. By eliminating ControlCommand, you are also eliminating the way ControlRef (e.g.) inherited from ControlCommand, so it looks---and I've only looked at this quickly---as if this will lead to some duplicat

Re: *not* everything is an inset!

2007-10-05 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 06:59:21PM +0100, John Levon wrote: > On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 07:09:31PM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > > > The font-related RTL business and the boundary stuff is far far from > > easy. Look at the different getFont() method and you will see how this > > stuff is comp

Re: CharStyles As Insets: TODO

2007-10-05 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 05:32:42PM +0100, John Levon wrote: > On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 09:02:03AM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > > > I think John understand our point of view very well but he's playing the > > devil's advocate. > > Not at all. I genuinely don't understand how anybody could thi

Re: The eagle has landed

2007-10-05 Thread Richard Kleeman
No problems here on a Ubuntu system. The compilation and the results look good. There seems to be a noticeable speedup in the response connected with insets (Figures etc) on my system. My thanks to the developers for this great software.

Re: About work area embedded in a dialog

2007-10-05 Thread Richard Heck
Andre Poenitz wrote: Use case 1: I want to replace all occurrence of "xxx" with "\emph{xxx}". Use case 2: I want to replace all occurrence of "a_{b}" with "a_{b^2}" Clearer? Sounds like firing up vi on the .lyx file in an xterm is the fastest way to solve this ;-) What about implementin

Re: DEEP FREEZE of branch

2007-10-05 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 04:11:55PM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > Fine. > > If you can do it very soon, you can commit. Because of a forgotten entry in a > Makefile (es/UserGuide.lyx), I have to start from scratch anyway :-( > (This showed up after everything w

Re: About work area embedded in a dialog

2007-10-05 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 02:39:33PM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > Edwin Leuven wrote: > >Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > >>we need a good infrastructure for embedding one or more workareas > >>into a dialog. > > > >could you explain briefly why? > > For advance search&replace. The idea would be that

Re: *not* everything is an inset!

2007-10-05 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 11:55:39AM +0200, Helge Hafting wrote: > Andre Poenitz wrote: > > > > > >One use case I can think of is a linguist wanting to mark individual > >parts of a sentence. Certain words can be part of several such entities, > >so overlapping might make sense there, and also the "a

Re: About work area embedded in a dialog

2007-10-05 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 11:27:12AM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to help Tommaso to finish his Advanced Search dialog (see > http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3998). For this, we need a good > infrastructure for embedding one or more workareas into a dialog. So

Re: *not* everything is an inset!

2007-10-05 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 08:34:24PM +0300, Martin Vermeer wrote: > > > (Unfortunately insets are no good for CT) > > > > Interesting, why? From what I can see it seems that all the inset > > people's preferences apply just the same to CT. > > Funny :-( I'm serious, I don't understand why it's di

Re: *not* everything is an inset!

2007-10-05 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 07:09:31PM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > The font-related RTL business and the boundary stuff is far far from > easy. Look at the different getFont() method and you will see how this > stuff is complicated. RTL is hard full stop, I'm not sure that's related to styles

Re: Inset Compromise Proposal

2007-10-05 Thread Richard Heck
Martin Vermeer wrote: Actually I came to more or less the same view. So: - Noun should become an inset charstyle (lyx2lyx) - Strong should take a similar slot as Emph, i.e. a (non-inset) "font" attribute. But: - Code should be an inset charstyle. Something either is, or isn't, code. Objec

Re: [PATCH] Add lib/packages/listings.def and change the UI of the include dialog

2007-10-05 Thread Bo Peng
> actually i was actually planning to not fiddly with parameter strings, > and therefore avoid the more parameters box > instead the idea would be to have a "All Options..." button which would > popup a dialog that allows settings the parameters much as one sets > widget options in qt's designer.

Re: The eagle has landed

2007-10-05 Thread José Matos
On Friday 05 October 2007 16:53:16 Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Please note that I'd like to keep branch frozen until all tests suceeded. I keep thinking that the matrix is reloading, notice the title in the first page of the Python Maganize: http://pythonmagazine.com/ > Jürgen -- José Abílio

Re: The eagle has landed

2007-10-05 Thread Richard Heck
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Congratulations Juergen, the list of change is impressive. Yes, but it's not me who deserves the praise. Everybody put care into the stable branch and helped improving it (not least you). I hope we can continue like this. There were

Re: Inset Compromise Proposal

2007-10-05 Thread José Matos
On Friday 05 October 2007 18:16:56 Edwin Leuven wrote: > i suggest "Babel and the Confusion of Tongues" I would call that an understatement. > regards, ed. -- José Abílio

Re: [PATCH] Add lib/packages/listings.def and change the UI of the include dialog

2007-10-05 Thread Bo Peng
> Let us see what others have to say, else you can commit this next Monday. Is > this OK? I will let Edwin take care of this, unless he needs further assistance. Bo

Re: *not* everything is an inset!

2007-10-05 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 06:11:54PM +0100, John Levon wrote: > On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 07:59:11PM +0300, Martin Vermeer wrote: > > > Change tracking. Initially it was crippled and very limited, > > then I partly un-crippled it, and then Michael put in _a lot_ > > of effort to iron all the bugs out

Re: Inset Compromise Proposal

2007-10-05 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 06:56:32PM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > Martin Vermeer wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 11:18:42AM -0400, Richard Heck wrote: > > >> The really nice thing about this proposal is that it saves us all a lot > >> of work. > > Actually I came to more or less the same

Re: *not* everything is an inset!

2007-10-05 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Martin Vermeer wrote: On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 01:03:16PM +0200, Dov Feldstern wrote: Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: You are clearly underestimating the required effort and the maintainance nightmare of a font based solution

Re: The eagle has landed

2007-10-05 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > Congratulations Juergen, the list of change is impressive. Yes, but it's not me who deserves the praise. Everybody put care into the stable branch and helped improving it (not least you). I hope we can continue like this. Jürgen

Re: *not* everything is an inset!

2007-10-05 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
John Levon wrote: On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 06:54:09PM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: You seem to be arguing that when we have two otherwise equal choices, and one behaves like Word, we should choose the other one. No, I meant that, in this _specific_ case, I hate the way MS Word behaves and we

Re: Inset Compromise Proposal

2007-10-05 Thread Edwin Leuven
Abdelrazak Younes and many others wrote: > > [snip]^\infty > Or did I misunderstood you ...? can someone please rename this thread? i suggest "Babel and the Confusion of Tongues" regards, ed.

Re: The eagle has landed

2007-10-05 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: I think I have managed to set up my first release tarball, thanks to the very good documentation from Jean-Marc and José. Since it is the first one, I would appreciate if people could text it on different platforms before we release it. You can find the release candida

Re: macros for commands

2007-10-05 Thread Bernhard Roider
Original-Nachricht > Datum: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 00:29:32 +0200 > Von: Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > An: Bernhard Roider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CC: lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org > Betreff: Re: macros for commands > On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 12:24:45AM +0200, Bernhard Roider wrote: > > h

Re: CharStyles As Insets: TODO

2007-10-05 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 07:00:41PM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > >>Not at all. I genuinely don't understand how anybody could think that > >>editing equations is like editing prose. > > Well, I am a scientist and I often have the need to apply the same style > to some specific words. These w

Re: [PATCH] Add lib/packages/listings.def and change the UI of the include dialog

2007-10-05 Thread Edwin Leuven
Bo Peng wrote: Edwin: I think what you need to do is 0. adjust include.ui, I am really bad at using qt designer. 1. in on_composePB_clicked() (the compose button), create a new dialog 2. read the parameter definition file and add items to this dialog 3. validation and parameter handling can be

Re: *not* everything is an inset!

2007-10-05 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 07:59:11PM +0300, Martin Vermeer wrote: > Change tracking. Initially it was crippled and very limited, > then I partly un-crippled it, and then Michael put in _a lot_ > of effort to iron all the bugs out and instill some sanity. Yes, change tracking was tough, and fixing i

Re: controllers

2007-10-05 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Andre Poenitz wrote: On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 08:48:59AM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: I am still in the opinion that non obvious algorithms should be kept outside the frontends and I hope that you won't transfer everything to qt4/. I am personally perfectly fine with the idea of removing t

Re: *not* everything is an inset!

2007-10-05 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 06:54:09PM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > >You seem to be arguing that when we have two otherwise equal choices, > >and one behaves like Word, we should choose the other one. > > No, I meant that, in this _specific_ case, I hate the way MS Word > behaves and we should

Re: [PATCH] Add lib/packages/listings.def and change the UI of the include dialog

2007-10-05 Thread José Matos
On Friday 05 October 2007 17:33:28 Bo Peng wrote: > Hi, Jose, Edwin, > > The attached patch adds file lib/packages/listings.def. It is dumped > from InsetListingsParams::all_params_. I also changed the UI of the > include dialog to the attached. I think this is all I can do to this > parameter dial

Re: CharStyles As Insets: TODO

2007-10-05 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
John Levon wrote: On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 05:32:42PM +0100, John Levon wrote: I think John understand our point of view very well but he's playing the devil's advocate. Not at all. I genuinely don't understand how anybody could think that editing equations is like editing prose. Well, I am a

Re: Inset Compromise Proposal

2007-10-05 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Martin Vermeer wrote: On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 11:18:42AM -0400, Richard Heck wrote: The really nice thing about this proposal is that it saves us all a lot of work. Actually I came to more or less the same view. So: - Noun should become an inset charstyle (lyx2lyx) - Strong should take a

Re: *not* everything is an inset!

2007-10-05 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 01:03:16PM +0200, Dov Feldstern wrote: > Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > > Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > >> Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > >>> You are clearly underestimating the required effort and > >>> the maintainance nightmare of a font based solution.

Re: [Cvslog] r20690 - /lyx-devel/trunk/src/frontends/qt4/ui/WrapUi.ui

2007-10-05 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 08:38:27AM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > >it is obvious that if the user doesn't check those boxes the parameters > >won't be set. and as i wrote, if we would do this we will deviate from > >what we are doing in the rest of lyx. > > Maybe Uwe thinks of them as "Advan

Re: Strange delays - can't type fast with todays 1.6svn

2007-10-05 Thread Bennett Helm
On Oct 5, 2007, at 5:32 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Bennett Helm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Only a profiler can tell us for sure what goes on. A mac user may be able to help us. Would that be me? ... I'd be happy to, but I'm currently unable to compile (as I indicated in another thread)

Re: *not* everything is an inset!

2007-10-05 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
John Levon wrote: On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 10:44:38AM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: 1) familiarity. This is how every other editor I'm familiar with works. This one is not an argument for me. Otherwise I'd still use MS Word. I am 80% sure that the success of LyX is in its ability to mix simp

Re: controllers

2007-10-05 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 11:04:33AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Basically, frontends/qt4 should contain everything about > > _visualisation_ on screen and frontends/helpers/ should contain > > advanced algorithms like data searching, etc.

Re: Inset Compromise Proposal

2007-10-05 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 07:42:41PM +0300, Martin Vermeer wrote: > Actually I came to more or less the same view. > > So: > > - Noun should become an inset charstyle (lyx2lyx) > - Strong should take a similar slot as Emph, i.e. > a (non-inset) "font" attribute. > > But: > > - Code should be a

Re: controllers

2007-10-05 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 08:48:59AM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > Andre Poenitz wrote: > >On Thu, Oct 04, 2007 at 09:19:04PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: > >>I am looking for a way to solve the "controller problem". > >>[...] > > > >Hm, with all the fuss about insets and ranges, any comment on th

Re: Inset Compromise Proposal

2007-10-05 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 11:18:42AM -0400, Richard Heck wrote: > Below. > > Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > >>> 2) The existence of a style attribute does not affect how and where I > >>> can select text > >>> > >> This is a con for me. I want to select the whole charstyle > >> automatically

Re: *not* everything is an inset!

2007-10-05 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 10:44:38AM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > >>>1) familiarity. This is how every other editor I'm familiar with works. > >>This one is not an argument for me. Otherwise I'd still use MS Word. > > > >I am 80% sure that the success of LyX is in its ability to mix > >simplici

Re: [patch] support for Vietnamese

2007-10-05 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Uwe Stöhr wrote: > His reply: Thành praises LyX? Cool! Jürgen

Re: CharStyles As Insets: TODO

2007-10-05 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 05:32:42PM +0100, John Levon wrote: > > I think John understand our point of view very well but he's playing the > > devil's advocate. > > Not at all. I genuinely don't understand how anybody could think that > editing equations is like editing prose. (I'd love to be abl

Re: CharStyles As Insets: TODO

2007-10-05 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 12:34:33PM +0200, Dov Feldstern wrote: > I actually agree with Andre' here, this would be good behavior for > *true* insets IMO. Agreed, I think it's a nice solution to the "delete a footnote" problem, with perhaps the change that it only applies if the inset is not colla

Re: *not* everything is an inset!

2007-10-05 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 12:56:36PM +0200, Dov Feldstern wrote: > Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>> 2) The existence of a style attribute does not affect how and where I > >>> can select text > >> This is a con for me. I want to select the whole cha

Re: CharStyles As Insets: TODO

2007-10-05 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 09:02:03AM +0200, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > I think John understand our point of view very well but he's playing the > devil's advocate. Not at all. I genuinely don't understand how anybody could think that editing equations is like editing prose. regards, john

Re: [patch] support for Vietnamese

2007-10-05 Thread Uwe Stöhr
I do not have a recent enough TeX to test it out unfortunately (and it is not my top priority), but I would have expected you to ask to somebody who knows vntex very well why such a thing is needed. I'll contact Hàn Thế Thành, His reply: first, thanks for your effort to add vntex support to l

Re: Section 6.14.3 of the UserGuide: problem with unicode

2007-10-05 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Georg Baum wrote: Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Georg Baum wrote: - unicode transition: this is not completed, people do even add new instances of utf8/file system encoded strings What's missing? Basically all std::string instances for internal use carrying non-ASCII stuff, ie many places where

Re: [PATCH] Return of the 'basic style' menu item and bold toolbar icon.

2007-10-05 Thread Bo Peng
> Like we support both emph and italics, we should support both strong > and bold. The difference is in advocating the use of the first sort and > hiding a bit the second one. My suggestion was that, 1.5.x Font: italics / bold (in font dialog) Toolbar and menu: emph / strong (

The eagle has landed

2007-10-05 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
I think I have managed to set up my first release tarball, thanks to the very good documentation from Jean-Marc and José. Since it is the first one, I would appreciate if people could text it on different platforms before we release it. You can find the release candidate here: http://www.lyx.org

Re: Section 6.14.3 of the UserGuide: problem with unicode

2007-10-05 Thread Georg Baum
Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > Georg Baum wrote: >> - unicode transition: this is not completed, people do even add new >> instances of utf8/file system encoded strings > > What's missing? Basically all std::string instances for internal use carrying non-ASCII stuff, ie many places where from_utf8/t

Re: DEEP FREEZE of branch

2007-10-05 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Enrico Forestieri wrote: > Regarding the color issue, I attached a possible patch to bug 2330. > I don't think this is a so urgent problem (maybe because I don't > use a Mac...) and I only wanted to give you all the info for making > a decision. So, it's your call. OK, thanks. It's too late. I jus

Re: DEEP FREEZE of branch

2007-10-05 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 04:51:11PM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Enrico Forestieri wrote: > > What about wasy10.ttf (bug 2326)? > > Actually, I don't want to open branch again. > Are all remaining issues (color etc.) resolved? Regarding the color issue, I attached a possible patch to bug 233

Re: *not* everything is an inset!

2007-10-05 Thread Richard Heck
Dov Feldstern wrote: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: 2) The existence of a style attribute does not affect how and where I can select text This is a con for me. I want to select the whole charstyle automatically and not bother with micro selection. I

Re: *not* everything is an inset!

2007-10-05 Thread Richard Heck
Dov Feldstern wrote: Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: You are clearly underestimating the required effort and the maintainance nightmare of a font based solution. UI is important yes but having developers understand the source c

Inconsistent looking of integrals

2007-10-05 Thread Enrico Forestieri
For screen representation of integrals, LyX uses two different fonts leading to an inconsistent look. See the attached integrals.lyx. There's already in place the infrastructure for using the integrals in the esint font, and some time ago I built a ttf version of this font (I am attching it here).

Inset Compromise Proposal

2007-10-05 Thread Richard Heck
Below. Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: 2) The existence of a style attribute does not affect how and where I can select text This is a con for me. I want to select the whole charstyle automatically and not bother with micro selection. I am abivalent on this one. When a character style

Re: Bold button and others ...

2007-10-05 Thread Richard Heck
Hellmut Weber wrote: Hi, having read your discussion only now because I was off line for several days, I would like to comment from a users point of view. I would like to argue that you should make more publicity for the key bindings and provide some easily accessible list of all actual key

Re: DEEP FREEZE of branch

2007-10-05 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Enrico Forestieri wrote: > What about wasy10.ttf (bug 2326)? Actually, I don't want to open branch again. Are all remaining issues (color etc.) resolved? Jürgen

Re: Section 6.14.3 of the UserGuide: problem with unicode

2007-10-05 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Georg Baum wrote: Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Could those two commits be related to this bug? Author: baum Date: Tue Apr 3 10:15:39 2007 New Revision: 17702 URL: http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/17702 Log: Normalize everything that comes from 'outside' (plain text import, keyboard input via k

Re: DEEP FREEZE of branch

2007-10-05 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 04:11:55PM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > Fine. > > If you can do it very soon, you can commit. Because of a forgotten entry in a > Makefile (es/UserGuide.lyx), I have to start from scratch anyway :-( > (This showed up after everything w

Re: Section 6.14.3 of the UserGuide: problem with unicode

2007-10-05 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Georg Baum wrote: Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Georg, as JMarc, you talk about "other people's unfinished stuff". If you want to blame someone please cite the developer in question and the associated stuff. Sending out sentences like this doesn't help anybody. Do I really need to list these thing

Re: Bold button and others ...

2007-10-05 Thread Hellmut Weber
Hi, having read your discussion only now because I was off line for several days, I would like to comment from a users point of view. I would like to argue that you should make more publicity for the key bindings and provide some easily accessible list of all actual key bindings. When I'm wo

Re: DEEP FREEZE of branch

2007-10-05 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Fine. If you can do it very soon, you can commit. Because of a forgotten entry in a Makefile (es/UserGuide.lyx), I have to start from scratch anyway :-( (This showed up after everything was finished, when building a RPM binary) José, I'm also gonna commit Susanas up

Re: Section 6.14.3 of the UserGuide: problem with unicode

2007-10-05 Thread Georg Baum
Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > Could those two commits be related to this bug? > > Author: baum > Date: Tue Apr 3 10:15:39 2007 > New Revision: 17702 > > URL: http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/17702 > Log: > Normalize everything that comes from 'outside' (plain text import, > keyboard input via km

Re: Section 6.14.3 of the UserGuide: problem with unicode

2007-10-05 Thread Georg Baum
Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > Georg, as JMarc, you talk about "other people's unfinished stuff". If > you want to blame someone please cite the developer in question and the > associated stuff. Sending out sentences like this doesn't help anybody. Do I really need to list these things? I thought the

Re: [PATCH] Return of the 'basic style' menu item and bold toolbar icon.

2007-10-05 Thread Richard Heck
Dov Feldstern wrote: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Dov Feldstern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Except that their would be the real bold and the bold-as-strong. In my mind, it is even worse than adding a real Bold icon in the toolbar. Where is the "real bold" coming from? We will only be providing

Re: [patch] provide table wrap float

2007-10-05 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: JMarc is just blaming you for not finishing other people's unfinished stuff. You are a bit unfair when describing my unfairness. When something

Re: [patch] provide table wrap float

2007-10-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>> JMarc is just blaming you for not finishing other people's unfinished stuff. >> >> You are a bit unfair when describing my unfairness. When something is >> unfinished

Re: [patch] provide table wrap float

2007-10-05 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: JMarc is just blaming you for not finishing other people's unfinished stuff. You are a bit unfair when describing my unfairness. When something is unfinished, it is not necessary to drive it more in the wrong direction

Re: Section 6.14.3 of the UserGuide: problem with unicode

2007-10-05 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Georg Baum wrote: Abdelrazak Younes wrote: It seems that there's a bogus character between 'h' and 'C'. At least Thunderbird does not understand it: ĤĴĥȷ̂ĈĜŜĉĝŝ There is no problem with the userguide at all. It contains the ĵ in denormalized form: 0x0237 dotless j 0x0302 combining circumflex

Re: [patch] provide table wrap float

2007-10-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > JMarc is just blaming you for not finishing other people's unfinished stuff. You are a bit unfair when describing my unfairness. When something is unfinished, it is not necessary to drive it more in the wrong direction (especially when doing a forma

Re: [patch] provide table wrap float

2007-10-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Jean-Marc Lasgouttes schrieb: > >>> As you said merging would be easy to do for you, I propose that you >>> provide a patch and I'll help you to test your patch as best as >>> possible to find e.g. the correct package loading and definition >>> order. (I exp

Re: About work area embedded in a dialog

2007-10-05 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Edwin Leuven wrote: Abdelrazak Younes wrote: For advance search&replace. The idea would be that you can search for a chunk of text containing insets (including math or charstyle) and could replace it with another text containing insets. Clearer? so the idea is to replace qt's line edits wit

Re: About work area embedded in a dialog

2007-10-05 Thread Edwin Leuven
Abdelrazak Younes wrote: For advance search&replace. The idea would be that you can search for a chunk of text containing insets (including math or charstyle) and could replace it with another text containing insets. Clearer? so the idea is to replace qt's line edits with proper (single par)

Re: Slowness Progress

2007-10-05 Thread Richard Heck
Darren Freeman wrote: On Sun, 2007-09-30 at 12:47 -0400, Richard Heck wrote: Should be easy to solve. Can you fix this, Abdel? Unfortunately, I do not have time now, as I'd really, really nice if a fix could be included in 1.5.2. I have been thinking I need to go back to using 1.4.5.

Re: *not* everything is an inset!

2007-10-05 Thread Richard Heck
5) Line-wrapping looks and behaves naturally. This is in fact the only valid objection (to the current charstyle implementation) that I recognise: it looks ugly and is visually disruptive -- for charstyles containing more than a few words. But it could, in principle, be fixed. It'd ta

Re: About work area embedded in a dialog

2007-10-05 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Edwin Leuven wrote: Abdelrazak Younes wrote: we need a good infrastructure for embedding one or more workareas into a dialog. could you explain briefly why? For advance search&replace. The idea would be that you can search for a chunk of text containing insets (including math or charstyle)

Re: controllers

2007-10-05 Thread Richard Heck
Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Andre Poenitz wrote: On Thu, Oct 04, 2007 at 09:19:04PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: I am looking for a way to solve the "controller problem". [...] Hm, with all the fuss about insets and ranges, any comment on that? I think that what we call "controllers" are really

Re: [patch] provide table wrap float

2007-10-05 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Uwe Stöhr wrote: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes schrieb: As you said merging would be easy to do for you, I propose that you provide a patch and I'll help you to test your patch as best as possible to find e.g. the correct package loading and definition order. (I expect some difficulties for the algorith

Re: [PATCH] Return of the 'basic style' menu item and bold toolbar icon.

2007-10-05 Thread Dov Feldstern
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Dov Feldstern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Except that their would be the real bold and the bold-as-strong. In my mind, it is even worse than adding a real Bold icon in the toolbar. Where is the "real bold" coming from? We will only be providing strong (which does

Re: Section 6.14.3 of the UserGuide: problem with unicode

2007-10-05 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Georg Baum wrote: Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Georg Baum wrote: PS: You are the obvious candidate to fix the metrics bug (4252). Wish I was not alone... Please come back Georg! In order to clean up after other people's unfinished stuff, provide them with a working base to use for their fun pro

Re: *not* everything is an inset!

2007-10-05 Thread Dov Feldstern
Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Dov Feldstern wrote: John Levon wrote: On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 06:37:05AM +0300, Martin Vermeer wrote: If what Martin means is that *LyX* will have no ambiguity, e.g, when generating latex/XML, then I think that the disambiguation algorithm suggested in this thread

Re: *not* everything is an inset!

2007-10-05 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Dov Feldstern wrote: Abdelrazak Younes wrote: John Levon wrote: 2) The existence of a style attribute does not affect how and where I can select text This is a con for me. I want to select the whole charstyle automatically and not bother with micro selection. I think this could be solved

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